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4:00 PM
@fredoverflow Mysticial.
 
lolwut
This thing says that they tried to deliver my printer today.
I SAW NONE OF THAT
 
Ell
@AndyProwl it can't be that bad
 
> Delivery Attempt:
Tuesday, 14.07.2015 17:33
FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT HERE
FUCK YOU IN THE EAR
 
Big ear?
 
> Next Delivery Attempt:
Wednesday, 15.07.2015
HOW ABOUT TELLING ME THE FUCKING TIME SO I DON'T HAVE TO STAY HERE THE WHOLE DAY
FUCK UPS
 
4:05 PM
Well, they do fuck up. Several time. So they're expert in fuck ups.
 
can't you call them to establish a meeting point and time?
when I bought my GPU I wanted it so bad that I did not want to let the courier bring it the next day and instead I intercepted him on the road
 
@AlexM. That's what happened, but they say they could only know the day.
SO I'VE BEEN HERE WAITING
NOTHING
WAIT WHAT
 
@Ell It very much can
 
It also says here that they tried yesterday.
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
That's all lies.
 
Ell
I have never tried it to be honest
 
4:07 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't they have a bad address?
if not, they are impostors and need to burn
like upc
I blame the "up" prefix
 
@AndyProwl Two bad addresses already?
At first they tried "three times" at my old address.
Now I gave them my work address.
 
I empathize
I'm confronted with incompetence or fraud by service providers quite often
well no not "often" but more often than I should be
 
user1804599
Hello! <3
 
I want to play the sims but holy shit I can't properly do it like
there's the sims 3 on steam but it's not discounted but leave that aside
sims 4 will obviously have more stuff at the end of its life so sims 3 is a downgrade basically
but sims 4 isn't on steam
worst of all: I already own sims 3
but it's on origin so I don't wanna play it there
AAAAAAAAAAA
 
neeerds
 
4:20 PM
I hate EA
 
I want to play sims 4
on steam
 
I called them and apparently the address they had was "My Name/My old flatmate's name/My company's street"
FFS
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "ergh... he's probably working, fuck going to his house"
 
@thecoshman I gave them my work address.
 
4:22 PM
And that's why you order hardware to the store and pick it up there :v
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv they be lazy bro
 
But apparently they decided to just take half of the original address they had (with my old flatmate's name) and half of my work address.
OF COURSE THAT WOULDN'T WORK.
HOW THE FUCK
 
user1804599
What is the difference between MCVE and SSCCE?
 
number of letters
 
One is a dumb newfangled acronym for the other
 
user1804599
4:23 PM
ok
 
Let's hope they get it right tomorrow.
 
guys do you have a fun movie to suggest
 
Slow West!
 
Lego Movie
 
Good thing today is pub day.
 
4:24 PM
@AndyProwl Mad Max (the new one)
 
I really need a drink.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmm not found on the website where I download movies from
yeah I know I'm a bad pirate
 
@AndyProwl I watched it on sneak preview last week :|
 
> In a stark desert landscape where humanity is broken, two rebels just might be able to restore order: Max, a man of action and of few words, and Furiosa, a woman of action who is looking to make it back to her childhood homeland.
 
4:26 PM
@thecoshman Sounds a bit like bullshit though, is it good?
 
@sehe go wave at us :D
@AndyProwl :O It's amazing!
 
ok, you convinced me
 
@AndyProwl Oh well. Weird.
It's actually been out in the US already.
 
:\ I just cut the grass... I think I actually sprayed dog shit into a fine mist all over me :'(
 
> I would like to use boost condition variable as synchronization mechanizm
 
4:27 PM
Just not Europe.
@thecoshman Atomized.
 
@thecoshman Buy Skylines
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll keep that in mind though, thanks
Maybe g/f will accept to go watch it at the cinema
 
@thecoshman too far
 
although most likely not, since I find it interesting
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes either way, It's up my nose :'(
I need to go shower
 
4:29 PM
Gross
 
I should focus on solving the salt problem
 
@AndyProwl works for me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's that?
 
Torrent client.
 
user1804599
@thecoshman nos.nl/op3/artikel/… watch the 3rd video
 
4:32 PM
ah
 
Well, more like torrent client client, since it's an interface to a remote client.
 
Well. Boost Serialization being slow to compile is pretty normal. MSVC being very slow is also pretty normal. Combine the two... — sehe 5 secs ago
 
I don't think I can install torrent stuff on this laptop
also I never learnt how to use torrent
 
Also, woah, those were some quick 47%.
 
I wonder if we'll get rid of mosquitoes anytime soon
 
4:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Has science gone too far
 
there's serious work done in stopping them usually consisting in modifying them genetically or sth to make sure only males get spawned
and last I've read eliminating mosquitoes poses no great danger to anything in nature
 
@AlexM. The answer, my friend, is buzzing in the wind
 
@AlexM. Except mosquitoes
 
yes but mosquitoes can all die for all I care
 
@AlexM. nobody feeds on those fuckers?
 
4:34 PM
they're one of the things I dislike in summer
 
like spiders?
 
We Care For Nature (unless it's annoying)
 
@AndyProwl It's pretty straightforward. Search torrent. Get torrent file/magnet link. Wait.
 
@AndyProwl it doesn't look like they're an important source of food for any animal i.e. one that cannot be replaced
 
then nuke them
 
4:34 PM
@AndyProwl Spiders also can die
And flies
 
I know that there's an animal that kills them and feeds on the blood they contain
some species of wasps
 
And all the other bugs
Burn all wasps
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see. I used emule for a while long ago and I always had to configure network ports and router and stuff and I just stopped
 
we need to conserve honey bees
 
No we need to figure out how to replace them with robots :v
 
4:35 PM
now if I want to watch a movie I download what's available on this website
 
I actually haven't used them for a while, but I had to pirate all my music last week, so I installed that on my phone.
 
here's an interesting video on the state of bees
and what their extinction would lead to
 
user1804599
 
@CatPlusPlus fuck these especially
 
You can just say their name
 
4:37 PM
I don't know their name
I only know the name in Italian and Slovak
 
Stinkbugs.
 
oh yeah
I remember you told me that already
but I forgot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes those suck if you have vegetation around
 
fuck stinkbugs
 
in winter they enter your home
 
4:38 PM
in summer they do the same
 
I haven't seen any
 
at my place in Italy it's full of that shit
fortunately there aren't many here
 
stinkbugs in my experience start getting into your house from the outside vegetation as soon as cold kicks in
and by house I mean things like apartments in blocks
not a house in the middle of vegetation where they can enter by accident
w/o seeking shelter
 
those things must die
 
yes they're very nasty
and smell
I once smashed one with a paper so hard its head popped off and landed ~a meter away
I'm dead serious
it was pleasant
 
4:40 PM
horrible beings
I don't even know who eats those but I wish they disappeared
and those who eat them can disappear too
 
srsly tho I hope we fix the honey bee problem
they're important as fuck
it's like cows dying forever and not having any beef
 
Woah, the long lost founder of the Ultimate Berlin Intercultural Board Game Experience is still alive. No one of the current regulars has ever met him.
 
fuck is more important
 
Fuck you chat, that was an edit.
 
lol
snackchat
 
4:42 PM
@AlexM. What problem, though?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes see the video above
there are actually multiple problems causing them to die, e.g. parasites, pesticides, stress
the full name for the collective problem is CCD
Colony collapse disorder (CCD) is the phenomenon that occurs when the majority of worker bees in a colony disappear and leave behind a queen, plenty of food and a few nurse bees to care for the remaining immature bees and the queen. While such disappearances have occurred throughout the history of apiculture, and were known by various names (disappearing disease, spring dwindle, May disease, autumn collapse, and fall dwindle disease), the syndrome was renamed colony collapse disorder in late 2006 in conjunction with a drastic rise in the number of disappearances of western honeybee colonies in...
 
First bees leave, then the dolphins
 
@AlexM. Er, no, it's not.
Stop spreading this nonsense.
"CCD" as a term has been appropriated by scare-groups to mean anything-we-might-want-to-say-about-bees-to-get-you-to-hate-Big-Pesticide-or-Bi‌​g-Farming-or-whatever-our-antagonists-are-today.
 
it looks legit to me
 
The whole thing is full of terrible science on both sides.
 
4:49 PM
so you're denying that there's a problem with bees dying out
 
Either:
1. I stock honey in my basement and sell it a high price in 20 years.
or 2. Scientists discover on how to make synthetic honey.
 
@Nican bees pollinate
 
@AlexM. I'm saying there's a lot of alarmism in the whole thing.
 
I think that's a more important role than providing you with honey
 
I understand that too.
 
4:51 PM
Unpredictable rises in bee deaths here and there have been an age-old problem in beekeeping.
And by age-old I mean recorded history.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it may be but the implications of bees disappearing seem serious enough to not afford to not investigate at least
but I'm no expert in bees
 
And the term "colony collapse disorder" has been grabbed by some alarmist groups because it sounds catastrophic and scary and it no longer means what it meant.
 
gotta move my ass home now
 
At first it was GMOs. The scientific community stood behind the GMOs, so they couldn't keep blaming them. Changed focus and now it's neonics. Someone published terrible science and now vaccines cause autism neonics kill bees. I wonder what they'll focus on when they cannot pin blame on neonics anymore.
Meanwhile, yes, bees are dying.
 
@rightfold lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes neonics?
 
4:58 PM
Neonicotinoids are a class of neuro-active insecticides chemically similar to nicotine. In the 1980s Shell and in the 1990s Bayer started work on their development. The neonicotinoid family includes acetamiprid, clothianidin, imidacloprid, nitenpyram, nithiazine, thiacloprid and thiamethoxam. Imidacloprid is the most widely used insecticide in the world. Compared to organophosphate and carbamate insecticides neonicotinoids cause less toxicity in birds and mammals than insects. Some breakdown products are toxic. In 2008 neonicotinoids came under increasing scrutiny over their environmental impacts...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :O THATS THE STUFF THAT CAUSES BEES TO DIE!!!
 
There's a lot of debate going on in Europe about banning them.
 
I'd generally rather ban something and then find out it's harmless, then permit it and find out it's terrible :\ but I know nothing on this other than I like honey and bees be dieing :(
 
@thecoshman They replaced the ones that were banned earlier for being actually terrible. They've been on the field for decades now.
They're everywhere, unlike high bee death rates.
 
I thought that might be the story
It's most certainly a combination of factors, rather than one thing on it's own.
 
5:03 PM
But someone published a study where they noticed that bumblebees got dizzy after having their brains doused with neonics.
Which has zero relation to how honey bees are exposed to them in the wild, and it's a dose several orders of magnitude higher, but of course someone picked up on that and decided to start another silly campaign.
(And ignoring that the bumblebees got dizzy after a dose orders of magnitude higher than they find on the field)
Anyway, this is clearly a theme that deeply annoys me, so I'll go do something else.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. You're like … the opposite of Bartek!
 
@rightfold Robot is negaBartek
 
@thecoshman theytookourbees!
 
user1804599
5:29 PM
@Ven do we want unary -? If so how do we disambiguate these two programs?
 
user1804599
f()
- g()
// and
f() - g()
 
user1804599
Use parentheses around it in this case?
 
user1804599
same problem if we would choose to use <- for channel operations
 
user1804599
hmm, come to think of it. how about ch ! x for sending and ?ch for receiving?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked can I donate to Coliru through means other than evil corporations like PayPal?
 
5:41 PM
hm, not right now
 
@rightfold lol
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked then you won't get my money!
 
user1804599
I wanted to donate one hexadecimal euro.
 
@StackedCrooked How is Coliru doing?
 
5:44 PM
as usual
 
I mean with donations. Are they enough to cover expenses?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey still insecure and not parallelised
 
@Jefffrey far from
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey probably 0 €/month
 
@StackedCrooked :c
 
5:46 PM
not even cppref donates enough?
 
they did a few times
but don't worry
 
Your name is Francis?
 
coliru is not in money trouble or anything. i gladly pay the bills.
 
user1804599
Yes, the pope created Coliru.
 
@Jefffrey yes
 
5:48 PM
Nice
 
@rightfold lol
 
I would have never guessed that
 
there's a lot of names :)
 
user1804599
Francis Pigarelli.
 
Wait, you are my brother? Such a small world.
 
user1804599
5:49 PM
0
Q: Can the dollar sign be someone referred to c++ pointers?

JefffreyToday I saw a post on php.net that I'm quoting here: $Bar = "a"; $Foo = "Bar"; $World = "Foo"; $Hello = "World"; $a = "Hello"; $a; //Returns Hello $$a; //Returns World $$$a; //Returns Foo $$$$a; //Returns Bar $$$$$a; //Returns a $$$$$$a; //Returns Hello $$$$$$$a; //Returns World Since PHP de...

 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
Jefffrey the übernoob.
 
Yeah :c
At least upvote it out of compassion
 
I pity the noob.
 
user1804599
Variable variables are awful.
 
5:53 PM
They're stringly-typed pointers
 
They are.
 
user1804599
In PHP you can do this:
 
user1804599
function f() {
    $xs = ['a' => 1, 'b' => 2];
    extract($xs);
    echo $a + $b;
}
f();
 
user1804599
It will print 3. This being possible is suboptimal but ok; fine.
 
user1804599
However, PHP has higher-order functions.
 
Ell
5:54 PM
my sound won't work still :3
 
user1804599
function f($g) {
    $g(['a' => 1, 'b' => 2]);
    echo $a + $b;
}
f('extract');
 
user1804599
This also prints 3! :D
 
Inject all the variables :D
 
user1804599
So you can pretty much never optimise out symbol tables in higher-order functions.
 
Ell
oh I fixed it
 
5:56 PM
I knew a lot about PHP once
 
@Ell How?
 
PHP being bad is not surprising
 
Like a lot of tricks and stuff.
Now I remember none.
 
user1804599
PHP is nice.
 
Like I remember there was a way to convert almost all errors in exceptions, with the possible exception (ha, got it?) of some fatal errors (not all), like parse errors.
 
user1804599
5:58 PM
Not needed anymore in PHP 7.
 
user1804599
PHP 7 will use exceptions all over the place.
 
Yeah, I'm talking pre PHP5 even
 
user1804599
lol PHP 4.
 
They were just beginning to talk about traits back then.
Don't know what version was that.
 
user1804599
Traits are awesome.
 
5:59 PM
They are mixins IIRC
So perfect
 
user1804599
Don't use Safari.
 
user1804599
It's not Chrome.
 
Don't use Chrome
It's not Firefox.
 
Also lol
 
user1804599
Wrong.
 
user1804599
6:01 PM
Chrome is definitely Firefox.
 
Ell
@nabijaczleweli "mm" means muted :3
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey top kek
 
user1804599
inb4 rape jokes aren't funny (except this one)
 
@rightfold Chrome is definitely Hitler
:P
 
user1804599
Yes, that's because it's definitely Firefox and Firefox is literally Hitler.
 
6:04 PM
Chrome = Firefox = Hitler
 
But Safari is literally Obama
 
But Safari is worse than Chrome
 
Why?
 
So (Chrome = Firefox = Hitler) > Safari
@Jefffrey idk, rfold said so
 
IOW Safari is Stalin
 
6:05 PM
Yeah, quoting yourself doesn't help
 
user1804599
Internet Explorer is literally PHP.
 
And Visual C++ is literally IE
 
Chrome = Firefox = Hitler; Safari = Stalin; VC++ = IE = PHP
 
I'm mostly bored
 
I need to find a plan to get $$$ for both the apartment and a new PC ugh
 
6:15 PM
@AlexM. robbery
 
it's so annoying that time is limited omg
does this not piss anyone else here
 
Limited by what?
 
you've a countdown to your death and any moment you live is lost forever
you can't fit an unlimited number of things you like in your lifetime
like, here's an example
 
My live is lost?
You mean liver?
Liver regenerates.
 
basically, I can get the $$$ to pay the advance for the bank loan in around 8 months yeah
the new PC will cost just as much so I will have to wait 8 + 8 months for it
that's a year+ sacrificing something for something else and it's only made annoying by the fact that I won't be able to relive that year
 
maybe I can make a deal with my family or sth
 
hello, btw
 
or maybe I can ameliorate the effect by mapping each purchase to important events
that's on way to save my sanity and not put me in debt to my family
I could get the apartment right after graduating one year from now and the PC on xmas the same year
that makes everything more memorable and meaningful
 
@khajvah Is that like joker in the end?
 
@Jefffrey yeah,
 
6:26 PM
Is this another Marvel movie?
enough with the fucking superheroes movies
 
batman is awesome
 
@Jefffrey no it's DC
and I want more superhero movies
gonna watch ant man next week and Im looking forward to everything else that comes afterwards
esp batman vs superman and the new guardians of the galaxy
 
I only like batman
and Tor
 
Thor you boob
 
@thecoshman no I like tor :P
 
6:33 PM
¬_¬
 
I wish I was a boob, btw. Then everybody would like me. :(
 
few people like disassociated tits
 
few is more than none :(
 
 
user1804599
That's not a heart. That's Yoshi.
 
6:37 PM
inb4, bin Feeds for huge pic
 
user1804599
It's not that big.
 
starbait much?
 
user1804599
yes :(
 
didn't work
 
Ell
I wonder what chromiums equivalent of firefox' C-d is
 
6:44 PM
it's C-d
 
Ven
@rightfold I talked about that already :P
 
Ell
Oh wait
I meant M-d
Alt-d actually
 
user1804599
@Ven Recalling is what I cannot do.
 
Ell
the shortcut that select the address bar
and select all the text in it
 
@Ell it's Alt-d
are you trolling me?
 
Ell
6:46 PM
It hasn't been working for me vOv
 
user1804599
@Ven but what do you think of ! and ?? Like in occam.
 
@Ell install vimium
 
Ell
I use emacs
 
and also don't forget to install Gentoo
 
Ell
I use funtoo
 
6:47 PM
@Ell do you also worship lord Richard?
 
Ell
Of course
in the name of the stallman, the emacs and the holy gnu, amen
 
You can't say Stallman without "stall"
 
user1804599
Stallionman
 
Stallonman
 
Ell
RMS
 
6:51 PM
how does he earn money, btw?
 
Ell
I can't remember
He doesn't prolly
Okay
How do I give bookmarks a keyword in chromium?
 
@Ell check the options and customize however you like it
 
These photos of Pluto... looks like Pluto has been trying to bulk up to regain planet status, look at those stretch marks!
 
Ell
Oh it's under search engines
 
> I therefore urge you to do as I did, and have no children. I don't wish that nobody had any children
 
Ell
6:58 PM
I think he is admirable
he sticks to his beliefs
 

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