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6:00 PM
@Jefffrey It's short for 'Millstone'
 
Kidneystone?
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Don't see the problem. Feels very uTorrent-y, the icons aren't ugly imho, and the interface itself is pretty clear. What's your problem with it?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey It's a programming language!
 
Oops, it's non-free.
 
6:01 PM
@Jefffrey it's a subset of GPSL
 
@райтфолд I got that. What kind of programming language?
 
@Xeo The column headers are left-justified, the data is right-justified, therefore grossly ugly.
 
Xeo
lol
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey An imperative one.
 
user1804599
/Users/rightfold/mill-example/main.mill:14.7: warning: argument is of type 'std.Anything', should be 'std.String'
        h(if x { "a"; } else { "b"; });
          ^
 
user1804599
6:02 PM
oopsie :v
 
Xeo
whoo, time for Aldnoah.Zero! /cc @Mysticial
 
you suck
 
user1804599
Eureka!
 
user1804599
The most specific common supertype of T and U is obviously union(T, U)!
 
no.
 
user1804599
6:12 PM
"argument is of type 'std.String', should be 'std.String'" oops
 
user1804599
I'm fucking up.
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Help, I can't take this 1600 x 900 anymore. ;~;
 
@ThePhD wut!?
 
@райтфолд lol
 
user1804599
cool
 
user3010322
6:19 PM
@Borgleader The resolution. It hurts me deeply inside.
 
user1804599
Union types are awesome.
 
You mean like boost variant?
 
user784668
Ahahahahahaahha wtf
 
user784668
 
6:23 PM
@StackedCrooked lol, lecture about sharing code from 'a principal scientist for Adobe'. The co. that tried to keep pdf editors to themselves and inflicted Flash with ticked malware/McAfee option on me.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Yeah, except without the wrapper.
 
user784668
That function name.
 
user1804599
let x = 1
let y: T | U = x
// x and y are exactly the same object
 
@MartinJames Well, at least he shared it with you :)
The mad scientist behind Flash and McAfee.
 
@ThePhD resolution on what?
 
user3010322
6:26 PM
@Borgleader My laptop screen.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial wheee, what an episode!
 
user1804599
Should I allow type complements?
 
user1804599
Like, you can pass anything but not a string!
 
user784668
@райтфолд that's racist
 
user1804599
6:34 PM
Type complements would be useful in C++ because of std::vector<bool>.
 
user784668
@райтфолд Already possible with enough SFINAE
 
=delete
 
user784668
Or that.
 
user3010322
@Xeo You just love torturing him, huh?
 
Xeo
maybe~
 
6:46 PM
Truly.
 
7:08 PM
why static funcions cannot have const modifier
why static funcions cannot have const modifier
 
@cbinder because it doesnt make sense
think about it
 
thanks...got that
 
damnit why haven't gdc vids been put up yet ;_;
 
is there an alternative to the name brainfuck?
 
7:17 PM
alternative?
 
user784668
@Borgleader ||
 
a name that doesn't involve profanity
 
no im pretty sure the profanity was the point
 
Xeo
There is no profanity. It's a name.
(IOW, grow up)
 
user784668
There's no fucking profanity.
 
7:20 PM
i am having trouble describing my latest project to friends without needing to describe why it has the word fuck in its name
 
Does it mean that 'const' is only for variables like int,pointer,etc.? — prabhakaran Aug 12 '11 at 4:45
ho boy
 
find new friends
 
@MotokoKusanagi b****fuck
 
Alf's comment, while true, is stupid
 
46
Q: xkcd-style graphs in meta

R. Martinho FernandesAfter seeing how to make xkcd style graphs in Mathematica, LaTeX, R, Matlab, and now looking for one in Python, I thought that this is too much. I am now eagerly awaiting for "xkcd style graphs in C++", "xkcd style graphs in C#", "xkcd style graphs in Haskell", and eventually, who knows, "xkcd s...

 
7:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ;)
 
user784668
fucking virtio drivers
 
he's supposed to be a grown man ffs
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Alf? lol
 
user784668
7:24 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit IKR
 
user1804599
@Mysticial matplotlib ships with an xkcd function. :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes i never got under 1:30
2
 
@cbinder Something you need?
 
no ;)
 
@cbinder Then why did you invite me into a private chat room with you?
 
7:33 PM
inadvertently... contacting to sm1 else
 
@cbinder I see.
 
Interesting
 
kinda sounds like "Awwww, that's my shit that I did like, a year ago"
 
@Jefffrey Fascinating.
TIL other people go to Jefffrey's university.
 
7:40 PM
Never knew that ^
 
@Jefffrey heh, interesting
 
@Puppy wat
 
well, you said that like that the particular university you went to is something to be proud of/remembered fondly, whereas in fact it's the exact opposite.
 
Definitely do not remember it fondly, especially considering I'm still in it. It's just that she is basically a comrade to me.
Yes, just because she is going in the same university, not even the same department.
 
7:44 PM
Why the fuck am I explaining myself to the lounge?
 
@Jefffrey Puppy's just on his usual anti-University rant. Ignore his nonsense.
Apparently because he had a shit time at his, nobody is allowed to fondly remember their own experience.
 
it eternally fascinates me to see people discriminate against or unite over utterly random crap
and doubly so when that crap is actually negative, like being at or going to university.
 
@Jefffrey 'Cause you're a blue scrub.
 
agree
 
@Puppy Shut the fuck up
 
7:48 PM
why abusing in this forum
 
University is just slightly a waste of time. It's not that negative.
 
Why are you people generalising so much?
Generalising is always stupid.
3
 
Lol.
 
it's a huge waste of time and money.
 
You're full retard if you can't understand that University is a different experience for everyone. Maybe it's good for some and not good for others? Just think about that for a moment you unimaginative twat.
 
7:49 PM
€800/yr is worth it here.
 
don't forget all the tax money that you pay implicitly to support it as well.
 
What the hell are you talking about
It's almost amusing that you have such a strong opinion on this, despite clearly not understanding it whatsoever
Government-sponsored academic funding is absolutely crucial for the sciences. Without the research that takes place in those institutions, this world would be a much worse place.
University isn't just about a couple hundred spotty undergraduate knobheads drinking and bullying Puppy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just being the operative word here :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth I honestly would love to know what happened to him there to make him act this way
Perhaps the rugby team raped him or something
 
well, he has quit his uni if I recall correctly; I might be wrong tho
 
7:52 PM
It wouldn't surprise me
He "works" now
 
not that I'm enjoying my stay at my uni but at least I have time to write crappy raytracers as I don't have to work 8 hours a day
to be fair, he had health issues
 
working 8 hours a day is far superior to university, in my experience.
 
just 1 more year for my masters; I'll be happy to leave
 
But to state that University is, categorically, for everybody, "a huge waste of time and money" and "actually negative" and "utterly random crap", just because he failed to make life choices that sent him to an appropriate place for his desires at that age, is, well, full retard. And actually somewhat offensive because it's suggesting that literally everybody else in the world other than him is wrong about their own happinesses.
 
not only is it just generally far superior, but you actually gain useful skills and experience.
 
7:54 PM
Ugh. This level of misunderstanding and retardation is actually making me angry. Plonk time.
 
@Puppy well, I don't waste (all) of my extra time I wouldn't have if I was working
uni generally lets you have a lot more free time which you can use to do whatever you like
I write crappy raytracers in Idris
 
I didn't either but there's a large gap between "I scrape together what I can" and "I have a proper plan and support for my personal development"
 
I want to chat SO chat to have a dark colour scheme.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Idris <3
 
not to mention that you have lots of free time but hardly any money to spend on making it enjoyable
 
well that probably depends more on where you are.
 
I don't need much more than a computer and internet to achieve the sense of intellectual fulfillment and fun
 
I guess that if your university system is more subsidized then you have more to spend now (but less later)
 
Feb 6 '12 at 11:53, by DeadMG
technically, I'm at uni, but in reality, I do my own shit instead of studying
lol
 
that's pretty much what I do
and it's been working out well for me
 
7:57 PM
I feel the same sometimes. Not recently, but until this new year.
 
You guys do realise that the majority of awesome things that we use in our day-to-day lives were invented by academics?
 
I thought that goes without saying
 
Mar 13 '11 at 17:41, by DeadMG
Logic & Functional Programming - haskell & boolean algebra
Programming for the WWW - i.e. html/js
Essential Skills for CS - latex/unix scripts
Introduction to E-Business - ebusiness techniques
Server-Side programming (PHP)
Databases
Object-Orientated Programming (java mostly, some c++)
Computer Systems (low-level logic circuits, binary representation of float/int/etc)
Mathematics for CompSci (vectors/etc, really pre-uni stuff)
That's nice. Especially the first one.
 
that seems way too basic / introductory
which year are you?
 
that was first year.
 
8:00 PM
> Mar 13 '11 at 17:41, by DeadMG
 
so what you can really see is that most of it is worthless and the rest is too basic to be of any use
 
ah, I didn't know it was Mg's quote
 
the contrast isn't perfect, but it's easier on the eyes than the black on white. I think
 
@Puppy to be fair, I had lot more math and physics in my first year
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How to install :c
 
8:02 PM
@Jefffrey magic of custom css
 
@ScarletAmaranth I wouldn't have complained if it was useful things like algorithmic complexity. But it wasn't.
 
@Jefffrey I have a Chrome extension called "Stylish"
just paste the Chrome CSS into it
set a domain filter
 
Is it ok to discuss such type of things in a programming lang forum ?
 
this is not a forum.
 
8:03 PM
What type of things?
 
nor is it a programming-language environment.
 
the Lounge is for Lounging.
 
@cbinder o_O
 
user1804599
No, but luckily this isn't a programming language forum.
 
8:04 PM
we generally discuss rightfold's genitalia here
 
user1804599
Programming language forums can go suck my dick.
 
if you still have one
 
That's doubtful.
 
user1804599
main.mill:14.7: warning: argument is of type 'std.String | std.Sub(std.Unit, std.String)', should be 'std.String'
        h(if x { "a"; } else { h; });
          ^
 
user1804599
Shiny!
 
8:05 PM
Comma abuse
Oh god did you make a conditional operator look like if/else
 
doesn't python do that?
 
Ouch
 
user1804599
@ScarletAmaranth No, Python defers type checks to as late as possible.
 
@райтфолд no, I mean the "if - else" into ternary conditional
 
user1804599
8:06 PM
No, Python does the retarded "a" if x else h thing.
 
user1804599
The unreadable thing that makes you write x and "a" or h instead.
 
@BartekBanachewicz 1 minute and half? That shows good stamina man, congrats.
 
hmmm
this MetaType callable should really be an OverloadResolvable.
 
under the tree where the grass won't grow, we made a promise to never get old
you had a chance and you took it on me, and I made a promise that I couldn't keep
 
haha holy shit
3D Studio DOS (ancestor to 3DS Max)
 
8:14 PM
@райтфолд it supports none?
 
user1804599
Exactly!
 
@Borgleader hehe
@райтфолд I'm getting to used to those :)
 
user1804599
wollah
 
user1804599
I'm on Facebook.
 
alright
35 instances of std::runtime_error.
 
8:26 PM
Optimise it so it’s just the one, being thrown over and over!
 
I meant 35 sites that throw runtime_error :P
oh hey, I just noticed that I have a memory leak that I never addressed.
 
He doesn't seem to make sense.
 
grr tech talks
that's because he's in a tech talk
 
@Bartek do you use Fridrich?
 
8:33 PM
> 502 Bad Gateway
 
> What I want in a new version of the standard is RAII support and more smart pointers.
RAII support?
 
we have RAII.
 
Hence my confusion.
 
> ResolveResolvable
hmm...
that's probably a terrible name.
 
Barty has some fit friends on FB
 
8:37 PM
hellows
 
@StackedCrooked what's the name of the stl guy?
 
Stephan T. Lavavej
 
@Blob stl :P
 
you mean Stephan?
 
what's wrong with his eyes?
 
8:41 PM
one of them is glass.
he's been one-eyed since he was very young.
he usually wears a patch.
 
how does one become better at being clever?
 
just spend some time around me and you might pick it up
 
you'll get more mean than smart.
 
@AndyProwl lack of food and shelter
 
I'm afraid that will just make me more desperate
also I'd have no access to the internet, which is where I find most reading materials
today I played a game about logical thinking, decoding puzzles and stuff
man did I suck
it's super frustrating
 
8:44 PM
what game was that?
 
it was an online game in Czech Republic
(and in Czech language so linking it would be quite useless)
 
Not sure if braingames are very useful. That's like reading quiz books in order to try to broaden your knowledge. You'll only learn trivia.
 
(anyway it's this)
@StackedCrooked I'm not doing braingames to become more clever
I want to become more clever so I can actually solve those puzzles
Actually some of them are language-independent
 
@Blob His website explains.
 
8:47 PM
I've experimented with hydergine and centrophenoxine. Hydergine at very low doses had a very noticeable effect on mental clarity.
 
for instance puzzle n. 303 here does not require much explanation (the title is "paint the labyrinth")
 
OH
i thought STL meant stl as in.. the stl
herb calls him stl ;_;
 
I was totally lost trying to solve it for half an hour, then a colleague of mine came and solved it in like 5 minutes
@StackedCrooked The hell is that?
 
Medications that enhance brain function.
 
How do you get that stuff?
 
8:49 PM
You can buy them online.
 
hmm
 
(It's legal.)
 
@AndyProwl "Paint"? What do you have to do
 
Xeo
@Blob both.
 
@StackedCrooked YANAL
 
8:49 PM
But I don't really recommend it.
Because it's not worth the money.
 
Xeo
His initials are "STL", and he works on VC++'s "STL" (cue LRiO complaints)
 
Today green tea gives me the best balance between stimulation and calmness.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's the hint (I think "paint" is the correct translation - like, fill the labyrinth with color/ink)
 
So just colour it. What are the constraints?
 
@StackedCrooked Will keep that in mind
 
8:50 PM
You're not doing a very good job of explaining this.
 
@AndyProwl Tbhat's because those designs are made to recognize a particular type of intelligence, rather than intelligence on the whole.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There are no constraints. You have to find out the password
 
why is there a C in the room name...?
 
@AndyProwl I still need my coffee in the morning though. But after than I switch to tea.
 
@AndyProwl What password?!?!
 
8:51 PM
I don't drink coffee, it makes too nervous
 
@Mgetz to annoy people
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, yeah. That labyrinth encodes a password
 
eh figures
 
You should specialize in the capabilities that you have talent for and ignore the rest.
 
8:52 PM
concur
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ah I forgot to mention, the "S" on the first labyrinth means "start", the "C" on the last labyrinth means "goal"
 
and the arrows are...?
and you move between the mazes by...?
 
That's what you have to find out
well, part of what you have to find out
basically, the key intuition is that the labyrinths are stores of a 5-store labyrinth. The arrows are stairs that lead from one store to another store.
If you color all the reachable parts of each store, you'll see the shape of the periodic table of elements (on each store).
and if you consider only the stairs that allow you to get from the start to the goal, you'll get a sequence of elements
if you then read those element's symbols from left to right, they form a word (in Czech language)
the last step is somewhat language-dependent, but I could not figure out how to interpret the labyrinth anyway, which is language-independent
there were 24 such puzzles, and I was able to solve 1
 
user1804599
Woo I implemented functions!
 
My colleagues solved 11
and I feel totally stupid
 
8:59 PM
Do you mean "story"?
 
yes, sorry :(
 
> a 5-store labyrinth
took me a while to figure that one out
 

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