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1:00 PM
Is that why you like pizza so much as well? :p
 
pizza is not easy to set up
you can fuck up the dough so easily
and then you can fuck up even worse if you don't use a proper oven
 
Yes it is: call pizza hut, wait, open cardbox, enjoy
 
no, that's outsourcing your pizza
if I paid someone to set up bug trackers, then I'd find any bug tracker easy to set up
 
@AlexM. IRTA "easy to shut up"
 
The outsourcing a pizza bit is tasty lol
 
1:05 PM
@AlexM. You definitely know how to fuck pizza up
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i like how dangerous Vulkan seems
 
Dangerous?
 
Well, a lot of the presentation is like "If you do X, it'll blow up. If you do Y, it'll crash. The driver doesn't check when you do Z, it'll probably explode"
 
Sounds pretty normal for C, to be honest.
 
I thought we said that Vulkan has nothing to do with C
 
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1:08 PM
WHY CAN'T I MAKE A PROPER COMPILE-TIME STRING IN VISUAL STUDIO 2013 VANILLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.
 
Right. But with OpenGL, there was a bit of oop stuff like there were little rules about certain kinds of objects cleaning up on their own. There's no clean up with Vulkan
 
@Pris Where are the presentations that discuss the API?
I was not able to find them anywhere. It's well known I'm terrible at looking though.
 
I'm going off of this rpesentation: youtube.com/watch?v=EUNMrU8uU5M
 
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Oh well.
 
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I'm going to stop here. Ranting is bad for my health.
 
1:10 PM
Got some Parme ham craving
@ThePhD Hit the gym!
 
@ThePhD It's actually proven that venting makes you less likely to die.
 
I'm going to ventilate myself to become immortal
 
@Jefffrey imagining the study that shows the correlation between death and ceasing of venting
 
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@sehe Yeah, I made that up. Actually I really think I've read that somewhere, but can't prove it.
 
1:15 PM
lol
I think I've seen research that showed how making up scientific stats will make you horny
 
Jeffrey Austin Powers' style
 
@Rerito no, just that "this is what the compiler does. It doesn't depend on any specific language feature. The compiler just analyzes the source code to figure out what the resulting program should do". It's not that you were unclear at all :)
Like @sehe said, it was just trying to make the point obvious. Not trolling at all :)
 
@jalf Too late, I just interpreted it as a confession :p
 
:p
 
freudian tip
 
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1:26 PM
hahaha
 
user1804599
til there's a dessert called "monkey vomit"
 
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@Rerito top kek
 
@Rerito the school of @Jefffrey
 
mmmphrgh this colleague of mine is constantly talking to himself while programming it's drilling my brain
 
@AndyProwl Headphone and blast some good sound
 
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1:28 PM
@AndyProwl tell him to shut up or to go away.
 
@AndyProwl wait until he starts doing push ups like that russian guy
COMPILER FOUND PROBLEM IN CODE
 
how the fuck does he not realize I'm not interested in listening to the live commentary of his programming session
 
THIS IS PUNISHMENT
 
@AlexM. lol
 
hmmm.... what to listen to...
Behemoth sounds tempting me thinks
 
1:29 PM
@Rerito I normally don't listen to music when I'm doing something challenging
music tends to bring my brain into some kind of dull zone
 
@AlexM. Picture that in a hot summer day. That smelly smell...
 
@AndyProwl try noise. helps drown out the other noise.
 
@райтфолд I think I'm going to lock myself in some meeting room
 
Why not asking him to stop?
 
@thecoshman I'm afraid he would just make his commentary louder
 
1:31 PM
@Rerito woah! you can't go dealing with problems head on. You must be passive aggressive about these things.
 
@thecoshman Yeah, just mix his water/coffee/whatever with laxative: mumbling moved to toilet. Problem solved
 
@Rerito I'm afraid of sounding overly pissed and/or unpleasant
 
Starvation avoided! I got monies.
 
W€LL DON€
:P
 
@Andy just turn up the volume on your tinnitus.
 
1:35 PM
I think you just made me realize one benefit of his commentary
 
@AndyProwl What's the challenge (just curious) :)
 
@Rerito It has to do with multithreading and deadlock avoidance, basically I'm design the support for concurrency for a project I'm working on
 
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.... Hm.
 
And since I'm quite bad at concurrency, it's too challenging for music :P
 
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1:42 PM
Something's very wrong with me if I can write regular expressions with C++ better than I can with R.
 
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I almost do not want to touch R.
 
Oh ok! I see lol
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl My concurrency support: none! Solves all concurrency-related problems.
 
lol
@Xeo That's the approach I tried first! Boss said "not good enough"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes inb4 I accidentally stole someone's wallet
 
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1:48 PM
So this is the language someone sat down and said "you know what every statistician needs? This."
 
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I am disappoint.
 
Nokia's map app looks nice.
 
it always did
 
A language called R exists?
 
people generally considered it to be the best
in the past at least
 
1:50 PM
It works offline => automatically the best.
 
Pretty much every map system works offline nowadays
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Lol, Google Map's "Offline" mode.
 
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Absolutely horrendous.
 
I was never able to use google maps offline on my phone
 
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"Oh, you made a previous search? WELL WE CAN'T SAVE THAT ON YOUR PHONE'S MEMORY SINCE YOU OPTED OUT OF ONLINE MODE."
 
1:52 PM
I don't know why
 
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Can't figure out that I want to cache recent searches on my phone AND JUST HAVE THEM ON MY PHONE AND NOT ~~indexed across all my devices~~
 
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Fucking always-online ad-tracking bullshit.
 
why are some of the things in the steamos sale...not on sale?
 
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@melak47 Consistency is for fuckers.
 
How is steamos doing these days?
 
1:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes True, unless you want live traffic info. Then Waze is automatically the best.
 
Is someone actually using steamos?
 
it's getting games
see the sale
I won't switch to Linux yet
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's pretty good.
 
last Linux vs Windows comparison of CS GO that I saw had ~100 FPS difference
in favor of Windows
drivers and all that
 
Pretty irrelevant reallyq
 
1:57 PM
to you
 
@AlexM. You've been misinformed, bud: blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies
lol
I know that's an old post.
 
here's a new video
~4 months old vs 3 years old post :P
 
lol I am fully aware of my bullshit argument.
NVIDIA must be opposing Linux and holding back on that OS.
 
Linus probably pissed them off with his comment back then :P
 
More likely its not worth the money for them
 
1:59 PM
Their Linux driver is actually pretty solid. Works with no existing/future linux technology whatsoever, but still.
Then again, never had any serious complaints about the AMD/ATI one either.
 
@rubenvb They're not exclusive.
 
lol people are pissed that the new Unity splash screen says "Personal Edition"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed. But ~habits~
 
I get where they're coming from tho
 
2:02 PM
Oh, and cheap mobile internet in Belgium yay!
 
@rubenvb And in the situations where you really want it offline, all the others are worthless, no matter how feature-packed they are when online.
 
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...
 
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So how the fuck do I have optional captures with this retarded thing
 
Xeo
?
 
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Uuuugghadahfhjgahkjaghajkfhawdwajdhawdk THIS LANGUAGE IS HORRIBLE.
 
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2:03 PM
@Xeo Strings in R.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yah. Have you tried MapFactor navigation (with OpenStreetMaps)?
 
@AlexM. bunch of windows games in there, too though :p
 
@melak47 what do you mean?
 
@AlexM. what do you mean what do I mean
 
the sale is to celebrate games coming to SteamOS
not on SteamOS exclusively :P
 
2:11 PM
@AlexM. Isn't SteamOS just a distro to stream games to instead of to play them there?
 
@melak47 What do you mean what does he mean what do you mean?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mm, no?
 
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@melak47 Remember that the streaming box can still connect to your TV and stream games.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah
 
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... What do you mean, Nah.
 
2:12 PM
the games in that list are guaranteed to arrive to SteamOS eventually
 
user3010322
That's what they announced at GDC. <_>
 
that's the idea behind the sale
 
@ThePhD uh? any computer can do that
 
@ThePhD they announced a device used for streaming only
but SteamOS runs games, it's a linux distro
 
@AlexM. what a useless piece of crap :v
 
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2:13 PM
Right, which is part of their "SteamOS"
 
@ThePhD wut? the streaming is part of the steam client, no matter if on linux or windows
 
@melak47 it's cheap
 
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@melak47 Which is why they can celebrate it in their SteamOS sale.
 
what
 
@AlexM. but you need a thing to actually run the game to stream it from anyway...so...might as well just use that :p
 
2:14 PM
it's supposed to help you stream games from your PC to your TV
 
@ThePhD did you mean: StreamOs Sale
 
I use my laptop to do that
 
@AlexM. So why would you switch to Linux?
 
what?
 
You said you wouldn't switch to Linux yet despite the SteamOS thing.
 
2:16 PM
yes, I blamed the game performance issues on Linux
 
If it's a streaming thing you don't have to switch.
 
see the video above
but SteamOS isn't a streaming thing
you're confusing me with your confusion
 
"All you need are apples" or "All you need is apples"?
 
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Are.
 
Steam Link is a cheap device meant to make streaming from a machine to a TV easier
Steam OS is Valve's linux distro meant to run games
Steam OS is what Steam Machines use
Steam Machines are OEM PCs
 
2:18 PM
Thanks
 
you're welcome
> Steam Link
Price: $49.99 USD
Resolution: Supports 1080p at 60 FPS
Networking: Wired + 802.11ac networking abilty
for 50 USD, it's a very cheap streaming solution :P
 
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It's a very expensive streaming solution.
 
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Because I can buy a ass-fuck long HDMI cable for that price and stream that way.
 
yes
 
@ThePhD HDMI cables have length limits
 
2:21 PM
you can also not buy anything
 
> Youtube
Price: Your data
Resolution: Supports 1080p at 60FPS
Networking: Internet
 
and haul your PC all over your home
genius solution
 
@Jefffrey not realtime
 
why do streaming machines even exist
it was so simple all along
 
@AlexM. bullshit
 
2:22 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It supports live streaming, yes.
 
first computers were terminals
terminals are streaming computers for text
 
@ThePhD on a more serious note
you still need something to plug controllers into
 
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vOv
 
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My... PC...?
 
> controllers
ew
 
2:23 PM
the idea of having centralized processing power with thin clients scales better
 
@ThePhD if your PC is close enough to the TV for you to use controllers connected to it
then you don't need streaming
nor a long HDMI cable
 
Xeo
FWIW, I'm thinking of getting that Steam Link, simply because I wanna play on my big screen in my living room (my PC is in my bedroom), and my controllers barely reach :<
 
@Jefffrey Google's ngram corpuses don't annotate plurals, so I can't tell.
 
@Jefffrey I wonder what the latency is
 
Xeo
or don't reach at all without fucking around with extension cables
 
2:24 PM
cables for controllers are meh in the long run
good controllers with docks for batteries and you're game
 
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Oh, well.
 
and 2 sets of batteries for everything
 
Xeo
Even my wireless X360 controller doesn't quite reach to the far end of my couch
 
so you can hotswap for loading
 
what are people's opinions on the Steam controller?
 
user3010322
2:24 PM
I guess I never feel the pain because I have a beefy laptop that I can hit people with! \o/
 
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Need to set up on the TV? CAN DO.
 
@ThePhD are laptops as fast as my PC from 2002 yet
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees Steam models are better
 
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@BartekBanachewicz I'm running Visual Studio, Payday 2, Dark Souls II, etc. etc. no problem, so... I think they're more powerful than your PC from 2002.
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees I'll buy it when it comes out
right now I'm sticking with an old X360 wired
I like Valve's stuff so much I'll buy everything they put out this year actually
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2:25 PM
I'll show myself out.
 
the VR headset, and the controller
 
@ThePhD I had an episode in my life when I thought laptop like that was a good idea
 
maybe Link, if I move to a bigger apartment
 
it was a short episode
 
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Only thing I'm hurting for is that I made the mistake of valuing the GPU over the actual Monitor Size of this machine, so isntead of going with a 1920 x 1080 resolution machine,
 
2:26 PM
people's opinion on their headset is great
 
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I went with a 1600 x 900 machine.
 
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My screenspace has been so precious little.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I do that for pretty much all my portable electronics.
 
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I can hardly see what's on the starboard these days.
 
@ThePhD if only you could just buy a new screen
 
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2:27 PM
If only.
 
I kinda wish I bought an even lighter ultrabook
 
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I'll be happy to take my monitor, PC, and all the wires to class and set up 3/4 times a day!
 
For some I get three batteries, like the phone: one in the phone, a spare in my backpack, and one charging on the dock.
 
reminds me, I need to buy a power bank
or kraftwerk
do those ship yet
 
2:28 PM
Though the battery and the power saving modes are pretty good and if I want I can stretch it to several days easily.
 
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Lucky you.
 
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I'm lucky if my phone lasts a fucking day (waking day: forget a full 24 hours).
 
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Wish I had my old dumbphone.
 
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Wouldn't have to charge for 4, 5 days.
 
> Popular torrenting software µTorrent has included an automatic cryptocoin-miner in their latest update. forum.utorrent.com/topic/…
 
2:29 PM
@ThePhD even better, a rock
 
lolwtf
 
you don't have to charge rock ever
 
@ThePhD I almost never cycle my batteries two days in a row.
 
it's always as functioncal
 
@ThePhD :S
 
2:30 PM
@ThePhD Mine can turn into a dumbphone and then the battery lasts two or three weeks.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes What is this magic smartphone you have. ;~;
 
I wish I had a phone with a fuel cell
 
@BartekBanachewicz how about the no-book?
 
@thecoshman what?
 
@ThePhD It's an S5.
 
2:30 PM
it's a very hipstery movement
 
mm?
I suppose I'm not hipster enough
I'd like something under 1kg ideally
with regular HDMI port
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not gonna fit in your pocket anyway so why bother?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ew, mini display-port is where it's at
 
@melak47 it fits in my leather bag
@thecoshman totally different use case
 
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I've long since abadoned the idea of having a small laptop.
 
user3010322
2:33 PM
HUGE SLAB + POWERBRICK
 
Also no reason to have miniDP without Thunderbolt
@ThePhD so it's neither comfortable nor mobile
yeah, no.
 
@BartekBanachewicz like not being shit?
 
@thecoshman um, no?
Are you just fucking enrolled into a religious war over ports
 
Takes two to tango.
 
you're a way worse fanatic than I am, really
 
2:34 PM
Alliteration is nice.
 
HDMI is able to send Ethernet and digital sound
it's for multimedia connections. DP is strictly for visuals
 
@BartekBanachewicz meh
 
@thecoshman ....
 
@Andy what do you find less annoying: tinnitus buzzing with music or in silence?
 
how the fuck is sending sound meh if you want to send sound
I don't get people sometimes really
 
2:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz if you care about sound you are using solid silver directional ethernet cables
 
now you're just trolling to cover up for your ignorance
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fortunately my tinnitus is not that loud so I don't notice it when listening to music, unless I really focus on it
 
@AndyProwl :<
 
Do you hear it through music too?
 
2:37 PM
Is it in tune?
 
Sometimes. Depends on music and current volume.
 
I guess in that case it would be...
a tuneitus
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's a constant buzz at a single frequency (or small frequency range).
 
@AndyProwl eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
@AlexM. lol after this joke you deserve tinnitus
 
2:38 PM
lol
 
@ParkYoung-Bae we get it, you're gay, don't go no about it alright :<
 
@ParkYoung-Bae it's more like "iiiiiiiiiiii"
 
ITT repeating the 'e' letter makes you gay
 
no wait
 
@AndyProwl what is it saying
 
2:39 PM
@AndyProwl Sometimes I don't notice it in "room temperature silence" (but I always notice it if I cover my ears, or if I put on noise-cancelling headphones). Sometimes I notice it over music at the loudest I can enjoy.
 
does it want to communicate
 
Oooooh!
 
Do any of you get an eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sound super briefly, like you tuned into a radio but then it goes away
 
it is actually "eeeee" when pronounced in English
 
@Pris It never goes away :(
 
2:40 PM
@AndyProwl no, sounds more like cthulhu
 
@thecoshman oh, that sound
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's saying "you wish I stopped buzzing you fucker don't you?"
then it buzzes a "haha"
 
@AndyProwl in morse?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That sucks. Does anything alleviate it even a little?
 
Just time.
When it started it was loud as fuck for almost a whole week.
 
2:42 PM
did it start out of nowhere?
 
Did you try not having tinitus?
 
I didn't tell anyone, but after the third day everyone could tell I wasn't alright.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I definitely notice it if I cover my ears and when there is silence around, for instance it makes it harder to fall asleep. But it's not loud enough to notice it e.g. when colleagues around me talk - still, I can hear it if I focus.
Not through music though
 
This is probably a dumb question; can you cancel it out? What would happen if you put on headphones and played the 'opposite' waveform?
 
2:44 PM
@Pris then you'd have it in the other ear :p
 
@melak47 -.-- . .--.
 
@Pris There are companies that provide stuff like that.
In other news, the Ruby ecosystem is crap. No one knows what a breaking change is. Or better, everyone knows what a breaking change is, because every minor version bump has one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes all ecosystems are crap :\
 
Happens with every Ruby software I use.
 
Are you still seeing the doctor about it?
 
2:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd leave out all but 3 words from it
"Ruby", "is" and "crap"
 
@BartekBanachewicz mildly interestingly, the order does not matter...
 
@AndyProwl No. There's nothing he can do about it other than recommend me various aural therapy options that might alleviate it. It hasn't been super annoying lately, so I haven't cared much about it.
 
I see. Hopefully it will stay at bearable levels
 
I'm not sure if it goes down with time or if you just get used to it but it does become more bearable over time
 
Mine usually stays low for days and then I have some annoying episodes that last anywhere from a few minutes to three hours.
 
2:52 PM
does listening to stuff help in any way?
 
Mine is kinda covered by ambient noise up until a threshold after which loud noises will amplify it until it gets painful
 
Not if the buzz is louder.
> It is a sorry state of affairs to see someone leap to Assassin's Creed before Dostoevsky or Nietzsche.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What
Does this guy/gal realize this now
 
:\ I think I have the opposite problem... too much loud music... which results in louder music...
But I suspect everyone is just quiet.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae It's a philosophy discussion and some quoted Ezio Auditore quoting Dostoeyvsky quoting Nietzsche.
 

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