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3:00 AM
Or compilers
 
@GregorMcGregor something about butts
 
@GregorMcGregor IKR :(
 
The U.S. Government & the Chinese communist party have a lot in common. That's probably why they hate each other so much ..,
 
No but really
 
@Nooble you should get good and we can become mlg pros
 
3:00 AM
If anyone says Inside Out is for kids I will fucking eat them
 
I lost friends over Inside Out
rip
 
I like the thought of cat trying to eat people ... What a beautiful thought ...
 
The message is so obvious and yet not spelled out I LOVE IT
 
I liked Inside Out.
My girlfriend didn't though.
 
She's an alien
 
3:03 AM
She thought it was an oversimplification of emotions and couldn't get over it for the sake of the movie lol
smh
I thought the message of the movie overall to be really great though.
 
is it that balls are great
 
Also recycling is good for environment ... Why kill someone & dispose of the body when you can be like cat & eat it?
 
Have you ever seen it?
It's kind of spoiler-y.
 
Yes I have ofc
 
Then again it's obvious
 
3:04 AM
Now I'm waiting for zootopia
 
holy shit
 
I didn't see it, but I will eventually. I mean, Pixar never makes bad films. Except those with Cars in the name.
 
> congratulations San Francisco, you've ruined pizza.
 
I don't think it's really so much as oversimplification as pointing out the not obvious obvious
 
/cc @nick
 
3:05 AM
>>> '{} {} {}'.format('t', b't', str(b't'))
"t b't' b't'"
rip me
 
I've never seen any Cars
@Rapptz idk what you expected
 
I just want a base64 string ._.
 
Don't use bytestrings in a formatting context
 
I don't want a base64 b'..' string
 
@GregorMcGregor Yesss
 
3:06 AM
@Nooble wut
 
@Nooble #freebroccoli
 
1 min ago, by Nooble
> congratulations San Francisco, you've ruined pizza.
 
wut
 
movie reference
how do I remove this b'' garbage
 
std::remove_b_second_garbage
 
3:08 AM
I didn't like Ratatouille that much ...
 
decode
 
yes
 
@Rapptz But that's what you get when you base64 a bytestring
It didn't have encoding, it doesn't have encoding
You can ascii-encode base64 though
Well decode
 
it’s mostly sane
 
I still think str(some_bytes_like_object) is weird
 
3:09 AM
I think it depends on the person ... I generally would not go to the cinemas for Pixar movies
 
I thought it'd at least use the default encoding
 
It's not weird, it's invalid
 
It didn't throw.
>>> str(b't')
"b't'"
 
It should
Oh it reprs it
Dumb
 
yeah
 
3:10 AM
There's no such thing as default encoding
 
go for decode, it’s explicit and that’s nice
 
>>> sys.getdefaultencoding()
'utf-8'
 
Retarded, broken, don't use that
It only applies to stdout anyway
 
yet it exists
 
And environment variables
It shouldn't be called default
 
3:11 AM
@LucDanton yeah I did
 
yeah you can have different bits/interfaces with different encodings
 
It should be called 'environment encoding'
I ate almost whole pizza 7 hours ago and I'm hungry
This is not supposed to happen
Also Bolt was good and I really want to watch WALL-E again
Also the first 10 seconds of Disney and Dreamworks logos are identical and it's confusing me
And/or I'm dumb
Probably the latter
I like this timezone better
 
ikr
 
what time zone
did you move or something
 
This time zone
Right now
 
3:21 AM
he’s drunk remember
 
It's a mental shortcut
I did suddenly have vomit in my mouth at some point however
Burps are dangerous after two bottles of wine
 
yeah that’s jetlag from changing timezones
 
How are you more active now if you're in France
This does not add up
 
more active than what
 
Than not
 
3:23 AM
Than a rock obviously ..
 
We have the charts
 
I don’t know of an answer to that question
 
Charts don't lie
 
lol segfault in atomic::load????????????
 
are we looking at the same chart
 
3:24 AM
helloooo
 
we are in gregor mcgregor and luc danton prime time right now
(oh and me)
 
I kinda overslept all night and then all day
 
for the past 8 months
 
This makes me confused about timezones
 
lmao
 
3:25 AM
timezones are annoying
 
It is 11AM in HK I added that to FoxClocks
 
10:25 PM Glorious Time
 
yes and I am already hungry
 
Maybe 'you rock' is a subtle insult saying 'you are so lazy, you are like a piece of rock'
 
But Luc is most active 6AM GMT which is weird for France which is I think CET/CEST???
I DONT GET IT
 
3:26 AM
wait there are stats?
 
Of course there are stats
 
fuck
 
Luc is weird
 
lol
 
oh is that what those bars mean
 
3:27 AM
it's in your profile friend
 
@GregorMcGregor hey that's mean
 
ya but it's true
 
it somehow never really registered with me
I thought those were over the last whatever period, not global :(
 
3:27 AM
it's over last 24 hours
 
I think it's over the last month or sth
 
there we go
nothing to see here, move along
 
Yup
 
there's also a graph for the week
you're not safe luc
 
Nope
he's safe with us
 
3:28 AM
is it 8-hour periods?
 
You're in my timezone and the charts don't align THER IS SOMETHING FISHy AND I CANT TYPE
 
LDST Luc Danton Standard Time
 
I still don’t care much for a week
 
ITT world retard day, let's celebrate it by being a retard today!
 
Undertale OST is p good
 
3:29 AM
time for the lucchat.py script
 
yesss moar OSTs to listen to
 
my position is that I’m most active when the room is quieter
 
Reasonable
 
yeah that'd be right now
 
cus I don’t like adding to the noise (other than a few stupid remarks from time to time)
here we go, plausiblest deniability
 
3:30 AM
You're the signal m8
 
@CatPlusPlus aw I like you too
 
<3
I'm too poor for Unicode
Also too lazy
 
 
You know I could shift my hours and stay awake at these hours just to hang out with you guys
Day crew is fairly annoying
To the theme of Megalovania
 
The only issue with this TZ is that it coincides also with Australia~
If you know what I mean
 
3:37 AM
Doesn't matter, ignored
Also she's more active in CEST evenings anyway somehow
 
Probably yet another sockpuppet of Luc
:shock:
 
Well no I'm wrong, chart says midday
Charts don't lie
It's statistics
 
I have 10 minutes to decide what to eat for lunch
 
breakfast
 
After that there'll be 7 million people per square feet in the streets and will have to wait until 2 pm
 
3:40 AM
something that involves lots of fruit
 
Anyway telkitty just says things that don't make sense from time to time
I have like 6 people in the bucket right now who are actively stupid and fucking annoying
 
lol bucket
 
Bucket's where the vomit goes
 
am I in the bucket?
 
3:42 AM
oh and there's even a graph for the whole room activity
 
i feel so loved
 
we're now approaching the depths of inactivity
 
you should move to the US
 
i can't spell
 
To the theme of Bergentruckung with some German letters
 
3:44 AM
@GregorMcGregor Perfect!
 
mm actually you'd have to get sponsored
which is a pain in the ass
 
@GregorMcGregor Maybe that's where the secret lies
 
@nick Stop playing CS:GO.
I saw that.
 
ew
 
We should pull @ElimGarak here and just form a nice nite crew
 
3:46 AM
he never sleeps
 
night lounge has a fairly diverse rotation of people
I think?
 
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useful log entry
 
I know that character
From somewhere
 
its a candle
 
There also his friends ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝݼa and qg_1ðžþîþîþîþîþîþîþîþîþîþî
 
3:49 AM
It might be debug memory fills
 
yeah uninitialized memory
 
But nobody came
 
Guys I made a shitty drawing in paint.
 
Happens
 
so buttiful
 
3:55 AM
going for lunch wish me luck
 
:D
 
@Nooble amaze
 
good luck friend
 
@GregorMcGregor don’t starve
 
3:55 AM
@GregorMcGregor You can do it!
 
> don’t check Team Four Star for months
> go to website
> nothing new
 
@nick I'm an artist.
 
@LucDanton thanks for checking for me bby
 
My only concern would be: if cicada keeps on being stressed, it would be hard for him to put on a lot weight & become a fat, cuddly HK temporary resident ...
 
4:34 AM
Happy turkey day
 
@VermillionAzure Hi.
 
Happy Black Friday not Friday shopping day too
 
Holy fuck.
Best rebecca.blackfriday oppurtunity.
 
user406009
Screw black Friday.
 
user406009
I always have to remember to stock up on junk on Wednesday.
 
user406009
4:47 AM
The stores might as well be closed with how long the lines are.
 
 
what if the universe is a simulation
and black holes are the garbage collectors
 
@Prismatic then what is the role of the dropbear
 
@orlp :D
 
user406009
5:04 AM
How would a black hole be a garbage collector? I don't see garbage like PHP being sucked into one.
2
 
no oculus rift rooms
 
@Lalaland watch your mouth young man or we might throw YOU into a black hole
 
user406009
Perhaps we just need to create a bunch of garbage to force a collection.
 
what if matter thrown into a black hole was just converted to dark energy
 
does the sun contain dark matter?
if yes, how much?
 
user406009
5:05 AM
Which would certainly explain the entire purpose of Twitter.
 
I wonder how long it'd take for a black hole to eat a star
Could such a thing ever be filmed
 
@orlp no, dark matter is not something you see interacting with other stuff
 
@VillasV it interacts through gravitational pull, no?
so if any dark matter goes near the sun it should get pulled in
 
@user1740058 So, PHP?
There are OpenGL stuffs for PHP.
 
@orlp dark matter is a theoretical entity that explains some gravitational phenomena
 
5:10 AM
anyone here create vr environments
 
@orlp so whether is there or not dark matter somewhere is actually the same as asking if you can observe its effects there or not
 
what if matter being consumed by black whole was spit back out as dark "something" , and we an only see input?
but actually input output device
 
@VillasV well, if 20% of the mass of the sun is dark matter, we should be able to observe that
 
a different type of sun?
 
@user1740058 well, it can't spit it out at the same location
 
5:13 AM
matter converted to energy= sun. matter converted to darkmatter=
 
dark matter supposedly curves spacetime just like regular matter, and it is influenced by curved spacetime
so if dark matter is generated inside a black hole - it stays inside
 
then where are the dark matter black wholes?
 
@user1740058 potentially everywhere
 
Now what if this black hole was actually a portal to SO.
 
you don't know if the mass inside of a black hole is dark matter or matter
 
5:15 AM
I guess I have to rephrase my "no" to "not in any meaningful sense"
Because IF dark matter is someday proven to exist (probably by finding a correspondent particle) it is probably some particle that just hangs around doing nothing
 
I had Pizza
 
@GregorMcGregor Which kind?
 
Margherita with an extra egg and mushrooms
 
any VR people in here?
 
@orlp I mean, it probably has not the same notion of mass.
 
5:16 AM
egg? on pizza
 
@VillasV is mass defined differently than it's curving of spacetime?
 
what sort of blasphemy
 
because if mass is defined as the extent of which it curves spacetime, it has mass
 
@GregorMcGregor Oooh tasty.
 
18 euros
#lel
 
5:17 AM
@user1740058 I am a VR expert with 15 years of experience.
 
@orlp meh, don't know enough to give an answer so better not propagate speculations
 
The rift is coming..you know.
 
But dark matter may actually be a bunch of different stuff together, that we don't know how to differentiate so we just call them this one thing.
 
there is the idea of "dark matter", then the idea of "dark energy"..no
as far as the info i picked up in a docu is saw : )
 
I mean, maybe all dark matter is like neutrinos. They just fly around doing almost nothing.
 
5:21 AM
how do we know neutrinos do nothing
we dont know what it is theyre doing? no
They could be sitting around having drinks for all we know...This is possible. Right
 
Physics doesn't make any sense. That's even more evidence that the universe is a simulation.
 
i am trying to find forums on high level VR design. I'm need to know how hard it would be for one man team to design 20x20 room.
High res such as the paris apartment demo
 
Just do it. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
 
sound great
but im just finishing up long stint on personal javascript project.
Im into fast right now
need something high quality in 6 mos time period if possible. Is this possible?
 
5:31 AM
On the tail end of a loooonnnnngg project.
 
I too have a looooooooooonnnnnnngg tail
 
i have an idea for a VR experience, but i dont want to spend 2years of my life putting it together.
 
How would anyone know how long it would take you to do something
Seems like an unreasonable thing to ask
 
it’ll take 10 minutes, tops
 
cause the last three "somethings" i have done have taken a longer to complete than i first thought
 
5:35 AM
@user1740058 If you're tired of starting over, stop giving up!
 
who said i was starting over/
 
Just do it!
 
@user1740058 welcome to software development
 
like 30 minutes? yeah that happens sometimes
 
@user1740058 Yesterday you said tomorrow! Just...DO it!
 
5:36 AM
I have noticed that programmers assume a whole lot
 
@LucDanton haha that's the minimum it takes just to setup the build environment for me
 
the trick is to divide the task into 10-minute sub-projects
 
10 min sub project. Javascript....hmmmmmmmm
 
O^2 really sucks for high values of N.
 
if u say so
hah
 
5:38 AM
@StackedCrooked Everything that is not O(1) sucks for some high value of N
 
Even O(1) sucks for high values of 1
 
@StackedCrooked I see no N in there, so no problem :p
 
> But we find that despite these optimizations, multiple packet losses still cause almost 100% CPU utilization or a reduced number of SACKs extremely slows down loss recovery resulting in a blackout period of no transmission over 100 seconds. The problems consistently occur in all three dominant operating systems, Linux, Windows XP and FreeBSD during more than 40% of slow start runs in large BDP networks
They spend 100 seconds in a nested for loop. In the TCP code.
 
who
 
@melak47 ah ok
My first sack implementation suffered the same problem.
Didn't realize I was doing O^2...
 
5:41 AM
@StackedCrooked Fuck me, doing what?
 
Well. Searching for tcp segments that should be retransmitted.
 
searching where? for 100 seconds? that must be a long list
 
^ most implementations of section 4 in this rfc
 
@StackedCrooked Would they not be in a sorted queue?
 
The quoted document suggests some solutions.
 
5:45 AM
@StackedCrooked but I guess that's in a very rare worst case scenario, right? What is the condition?
 
Condition is having a high number of unacked segments. Typically during slow start. This only happens if you have round-trip times of more than 10ms.
Suppose 10000 segments.
10k ^ 2 is bad :)
 
@StackedCrooked Wow! That sounds pretty bad. Somebody should fix that! :)
Morning.
 
I think they fixed it.
It's an article from ~2008.
 
Oh.
 
5:52 AM
But in my code I fixed it only last week...
 
@GregorMcGregor Obvious.
 
@sehe I did not listen to you and went with Spirit 2. Wasted 2 hours trying to understand the problem, posted on SO, user points me to you answer saying that Spirit 2 is not to be used with auto.
Listen to the wise, children. Don't be that guy (me).
 
@VillasV Only 2 hours? That is like nothing. :)
 
6:13 AM
@GregorMcGregor yeah
 
6:25 AM
@GregorMcGregor 1200g Guild Hall bar
 
29
Q: Draw a turkey, a pumpkin pie, or any other object traditionally associated with Thanksgiving

MicoUsing TeX- and LaTeX-related tools and packages, how would you draw a turkey, a pumpkin pie, a pecan pie, a gravy boat, or any other object(s) traditionally associated with Thanksgiving?

 
@LucDanton lol those pumpkins
it feels horribly empty
 
6:42 AM
I didn't get the \gobble jokes
 
6:55 AM
@GregorMcGregor what does? the shot is a close-up btw
 
7:18 AM
ugg, does anybody actually use Scheme/Racket in production?
 
@LucDanton lack of furniture / decoration mebby
 
@GregorMcGregor they placed it in the center of a plaza to show it off, it gets more interesting at e.g. the tavern
 
wait you mean that's not the tavern
 
plus you can just make another 1200g and some of the however expensive basic chairs and put them down for a nice custom bar area!
@GregorMcGregor it’s a crafted decoration, you place those wherever you please
having our own guild hall will prove interesting, I think 1200g is roughly the extent of all the wealth I’ve accumulated so far
#pay2win cc @Rapptz
 
lol
 
7:25 AM
good thing we have one cosmetics-obsessed TP flipper in our guild
completely unrelated, you folks want to join my guild?
yes there’s a fee
> Built a Scarecrow for Guild Hall - disapointing
> Built Tyrian Globe - Much Crying Involved
well done anet I love those tears
more seriously lack of preview for this stuff is silly :/
 
is that the fee to pay for the new bar
 
@GregorMcGregor naw it’s market price for the crafting ingredients
I make ~4g/day collecting some of that
 
7:42 AM
what is this
guildwars
 
> Built a Gramophone - its fricken awesome xD
anet taketh, anet giveth
@GregorMcGregor see this was confusing because we don’t even have an old bar
 
question: if I allocate a class instance in a dll and then pass the pointer to that instance through an 'extern C' function to the client executable.. am I all set?
i.e. it shouldn't happen that even by reading the header the client executable "interprets" the data differently, right?
 
7:57 AM
As long as you allocate and free from the same module should be OK
 
compiler options have to be compatible as well innit
 

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