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12:02 AM
@jaggedSpire 5 hours early.
 
Raise your AP! Grab #Fallout4 AND @jonessodaco Nuka Cola Quantum - exclusively available from @Target on 11.10 https://t.co/JWfsm8wzMZ
Yes, please.
 
But Nuka Cola is literally drugs
 
Just ate some lovely cheese triangles.
A dollar for a huge slice, too.
 
@Nooble +3HP
And the wedge is +7HP
 
12:20 AM
@ElimGarak Low resolution geometry? Oh that's no fun. If you wanna be cool like me, send in a 4 GiB VBO. /cc @AnalPhabet
 
> I am MOTOBOT. I was created to surpass you.
Oh well.
(The bike's unmodified)
 
@jaggedSpire Speaking of Twilight, I hope this parody never becomes a reality
 
Shitty weather; I can't even sleep with the window open.
 
12:35 AM
woah, rustc --explain is really cool
> Type inference fails to infer the type of a closure when calling a function with an argument bounded by a trait implemented for a closure which takes a reference argument #24735
indeed.
 
Rust sounds nice.
 
user406009
Rust is quite nice. At least compared to C++.
 
A lof of stuff is nice compared to C++
what's weird though is that I thought this code builds fine
   Compiling hello_world v0.0.1 (file:///Users/bajtek/Projects/Thermite)
src/database.rs:58:16: 66:10 error: mismatched types:
 expected `fn(&i64, &i64) -> core::option::Option<T>`,
    found `[closure@src/database.rs:58:16: 66:10 self:_, f:_]`
(expected fn pointer,
    found closure) [E0308]
I should prolly return Fn not fn
but uh
 
To the bed!
Good night all.
 
Sometimes I think I should be a mentor to those who gets bullied online
 
12:47 AM
@Morwenn night
 
WHO THE FUCK IS FLAGGING THINGS
 
Given my proven success in dealing with online bullies, I must say it's a waste of talent that I am not mentoring those weaklings and make them as strong as I am.
 
lol
> proven success
 
@chmod711telkitty Her hair is cool.
@Nooble Thanks :D
 
seriouslt fuck of with the flagging
who the hell is doing this
@JonClements halp :/
 
12:50 AM
hello!
 
@Morwenn she's thin, she should be a supermodel
 
@chmod711telkitty Lol. She speaks a bit like an English lady, that's kind of pleasant.
Anyway, I'm leaving.
Bye ^_^
 
@chmod711telkitty lol
 
hmpfh this function trait is weird
 
12:55 AM
@Morwenn Later.
 
@Duncan Hey
 
so TIL if you want to use implicit return in Rust you have to omit the semicolon
it's uh well
i mean it makes sense kind of
 
well yes
remember: everything is a file an expression
 
anyway the bug with closures and Fn is weird
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz Having you written a prime finder with the type system yet?
 
user406009
1:00 AM
Supposedly it is turing complete.
 
oh who cares whether it's turing complete or not
except C++fags
 
Ell
Man
Why the butthurt?
 
what butthurt
 
Ell
Never mind :3
 
cause it's bartek lol
 
1:02 AM
the fact that C++ fanatics wank over the fact that C++'s type system is turing complete is well known
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz Just wait until the reflection proposal lands.
 
user406009
Then things will get really crazy.
 
oh look more flagging
 
fucking moronic flags
 
yo
 
user406009
1:02 AM
What are they flagging?
 
dunno who's doing that
 
I'm gonna validate them
:smirk:
 
Ell
They be flaggin
 
@Lalaland everything randomly
 
user406009
In this room?
 
1:03 AM
@Rapptz hey
 
@Lalaland ye
 
are you the flagger
 
let's kick him and see if it helps
 
user406009
Don't start kicking people.
 
I need to add antiflag system to SnackChat
 
1:04 AM
hey it's the fresh prince of kaiden
 
but it's not very high on my priority list
 
@GregorMcGregor Hi?
 
user406009
Everyone who has ever played a game of Mafia knows that everyone just gets kicked and you never get the flagger.
 
wadup kaiden where have you been my whole life
 
@GregorMcGregor Probably not alive yet. 0_0
 
Ell
1:06 AM
Hory shet Eliot Rodgers was 2014?
 
Elliot > Eliot.
 
you mean lexicographically
 
user406009
lexographic ordering is awesome.
 
src/database.rs:71:32: 71:33 error: mismatched types:
 expected `&i64`,
    found `i64`
euueueuueueu
error: the trait `core::fmt::Display` is not implemented for the type
`core::option::Option<f64>`
OH COME ON
are you for real
 
Use {:?}
 
1:15 AM
@Morwenn enjoy your burrito to the fullest
 
The STL and its tests are much closer to building cleanly with Clang/C2 -fno-ms-compatibility than I expected/feared.
 
@copy I'm writing an instance
 
@Morwenn Good night
 
@Borgleader good now do it with -Wall
 
@Borgleader hype
 
1:16 AM
on your own goddamn compiler
 
Also lol -fno-ms-compatibility
There's a flag for that
 
what does he mean by STL
 
>:(
 
Himself ofc
 
@GregorMcGregor you beat me to it
 
1:17 AM
@GregorMcGregor yes, afaik its a switch for the visual studio "compatibility layer" of clang
 
should be no compat by default
 
@BartekBanachewicz You could implement the debug instance instead
 
and now starring
 
oh ffs
 
who is starring things?
stop starring things.
 
1:18 AM
we need mod supervision again? what is this... daycare?
 
Ask stargazer
 
let a = my_db.insert(db::Entry::new(db::Point{x: 10., y: 7.}, "a".to_string()));
let b = my_db.insert(db::Entry::new(db::Point{x: 1., y: 3.}, "b".to_string()));
println!("{:?}", my_db.distance_between(a, b));
 
@ElimGarak i thought that didnt work anymore
 
works :3
 
Thank you
 
1:19 AM
@Jon we have a serious flagger
 
Who was it that got banned last time this shit happened?
 
Dumb Larynx
 
I think I know who it is. But I have no proof.
 
@Borgleader Don Larynx was the serial flagger
 
@GregorMcGregor Well hes here now
 
1:19 AM
what an idiot
 
oh yeah it's him again
wow
that takes a serious level of stupidity
don are you secretly an oyster
 
there sad
vlad from moscow
and theres this guy
 
@DonLarynx If you're the one that's spamming flags and stars, I kindly ask that you stop unless you want to get banned again.
 
Ell
Sleep time
 
> seen 1m ago, talked 50d ago
 
1:21 AM
@Mysticial I'm almost tempted to pin that, just in case...
 
yes we all know that was very effective last time
 
@GregorMcGregor more like to show that at least we tried
i think
 
you're all too nice/naive
 
Yeah, we need to find his house address and send him Telkitty.
 
Has Telkitty become a weapon now?
 
1:25 AM
always has been
 
@ElimGarak Why? For all you know she'll give him tips on trolling :P
 
@ElimGarak nah he's polish, let's send him Bartek instead
 
OH.. WMD
 
> An annoying austrailian/oriental person who inhabits Continuum, has a voice that could kill the def, is idiotic beyond any human potential, and is trying to break the record for "Most people pissed off by one person."
Definitely a weapon
 
@MartinJames Weapon of Mass Defecation.
 
1:26 AM
Weapon of Maddening Distraction
 
Sounds like siren or medusa
My I possess superhuman power & is a high priestess to the goddess of trolling
Or maybe not
 
Goddess of SBA
 
This might be the best promo they've ever done (the song is really good ^.^)
 
@Borgleader dat ending, tho
 
@ElimGarak The episode from which that scene is from is excellent btw. It made me want to buy chairs.
 
@chmod711telkitty You're not the victim, Telkitty. You are the problem, the harasser, the online "bully". Are you so delusional you cannot see that? There is a reason everyone is annoyed with you, there is a reason mods ignore you, there is a reason you get banned all the time, there is a reason you have a UD entry since 2004. Get a fucking grip.
@jaggedSpire They are so adorable <333333333 Can they be kept as pets?
 
@ElimGarak There is actually a soviet breeding program that's partially domesticated foxes
 
Yeah, I feel like they are kinda dangerous, but would love to have one.
 
user406009
Eh, pets.
 
user406009
Too much of a time/money/space commitment.
 
1:37 AM
Never had pets? You can get tiny animals.
 
user406009
When I was younger, my family had a dog.
 
@ElimGarak She's got mental problems in real life and is here just to get attention. Like seriously, who the fuck come here just to dump pictures of her cock and talk endlessly about her depression.
 
user406009
@Mysticial To be fair, Telkitty also participates in other discussions.
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire I always found it interesting how few generations they need to get really strong effects.
 
user406009
1:39 AM
It sorta scares me about the possibilities from human eugenics.
 
user406009
Eugenics is another interesting ethical topic.
 
@Lalaland yeah. If I recall correctly from the last article I read on it, it was about eight generations in that they started getting the physical characteristics we see in dogs, like bent tails and floppy ears
 
> The Eugenics Wars (or the Great Wars) were a series of conflicts fought on Earth between 1992 and 1996. The result of a scientific attempt to improve the Human race through selective breeding and genetic engineering, the wars devastated parts of Earth, by some estimates officially causing some 30 million deaths, and nearly plunging the planet into a new Dark Age.
Star Trek's view of eugenics. :P
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire Eight generations is nothing. That's like 120 years for humans.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Some could say we already had the "Eugenics Wars" with WW2.
 
1:43 AM
scary, eh? The article doesn't mention the specific generation count when the physical markers started appearing, though, so I can't verify my memory's accuracy. :\
 
@Mysticial You mean posts a video of a beheading and wonders why everyone is freaking out
 
user406009
After that, no one wants to discuss eugenics any more.
 
Yeah, but that was supremacy born of ignorance, here supremacy would be a fact (provided successful tampering). :D
 
It does say they're at around generation 40 now.
 
On a related note an explanation as to why dogs are more friendly to humans than cats is that they were domesticated much earlier
 
1:44 AM
There is a 3-episode block of Star Trek Enterprise in its 4th season dealing with eugenics.
 
@Mysticial Oh and, well someone with depression actually.
 
I mentioned a 51/50 a few times, I really think they'd institutionalize her if she were subjected to a mandatory psych eval. At the very least, put her on meds.
And here is the 1st episode of Star Trek dealing with eugenics. The latest movie on Star Trek also deals with a remnant of the eugenics wars.
 
@ElimGarak KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
 
user406009
You need evidence of violence in order to get a 5150 hold on someone.
 
@Borgleader :D
 
1:49 AM
@GregorMcGregor offering compatibility with MSVC when running on windows inside VS compiling windows stuff seems reasonable :p
 
A person must be an imminent threat to themselves or the lives of others to get a 5150, pursuant to California H&S code
 
Woah.... Steam sells Substance Designer 5 and Substance Painter :O /cc @ElimGarak
 
> In the sixth generation bred for tameness we had to add an even higher-scoring category. ... eager to establish human contact, whimpering to attract attention and sniffing and licking experimenters like dogs. They start displaying this kind of behavior before they are one month old.
sauce (quote from page 3)
 
user406009
Also, Telkitty is in Australia. California laws are not supreme everywhere.
 
No, but the code is generally read very similar
 
1:50 AM
There is a variant of a 51/50 in every civilized nation. In Croatia, probable cause is enough.
 
@jaggedSpire I was actually researching this a couple weeks ago
school assignment :P
 
In the U.S. probable cause is just another intepretation of imminent danger
 
We are currently mitigating an attack. Standby for updates.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak For interest's sake, has Star Trek informed your opinion on eugenics in any way?
 
1:52 AM
Simply left to the police because probably cause is the lowest standard of legal interpretation allowable in a jurisdiction to administer and execute laws on the book.
 
@Lalaland I agree with the notion that creating a subgroup of humans which are superior to everyone else cannot end well.
 
user406009
What about voluntary elimination of certain genetic disorders?
 
How would you do that
 
@ Elm Garak, before we go creating superior humans, lets just round up the existing morons in the world and spaying/neutering them.
Start with the ones who have kids they can't support and yet keep having more
 
Everything that doesn't shift the balance of power is okay, so health-related research is perfectly fine.
"Superior ability breeds superior ambition." is a quote I remember from Star Trek.
 
1:54 AM
"In our foxes, novel traits began to appear in the eighth to tenth selected generations. "
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor One way is to do in vivo fertilization and then genetically test the embryos.
 
haha! I do possess a functional memory
 
user406009
Another is to do first trimester/early term abortions.
 
user406009
The important part is keeping it voluntary.
 
Oh that's what you mean by elimination of genetic disorders
 
user406009
1:55 AM
Yes, you can eliminate entire genes with enough time and effort.
 
And knowledge which we lack
 
Consequences of the eugenics wars have been portrayed in DS9 as well, all genetic modifications which grant superior abilities to people have been made illegal and those who are caught are basically placed in a special asylum. Julian Bashir is one exception because his parents managed to keep it a secret for quite a while.
 
user406009
We have enough knowledge to do quite a bit.
 
I don't think so
 
user406009
We can detect stuff like down syndrome and certain pro-cancer genes quite quickly.
 
1:56 AM
Detect sure, cut off not so much
 
user406009
Well, you simply terminate the embryo if it has the bad gene. There are of course additional ethical issues with that ...
 
Not yet, anyway. Which is kinda great, because as soon as they get such power, they'll use it for something stupid. All knowledge gets militarized first.
 
That's not eliminating the disease
 
> P0006R0 Adopt Type Traits Variable Templates from Library Fundamentals TS for C++17
 
user406009
Yes it is. It is preventing the gene from passing into the next generation.
 
user406009
1:57 AM
Eventually it gets completely wiped out.
 
soo... is_same_v<T,U> etc are going to be official :v
 
@Lalaland Of course not
Down syndrome happens naturally
It's a trisomy
Not a gene defect per se
 
user406009
Well, not down syndrome.
 
user406009
But the gene defects you can certainly wipe out.
 
You seem very confused
 
user406009
1:58 AM
The BRCA gene would be a good voluntary eugenics target.
 
user406009
It's dominant and has highly detrimental effects.
 
tumblr will destroy you if you ever use the term "defects"
 
Are you conflating gene and allele purposefully?
 
user406009
@LucDanton Yeah, I guess I should be more specific.
 
user406009
Wipe out the BRCA gene mutation.
 
user406009
1:59 AM
(Or in other words, the defective allele)
 

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