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12:00 AM
a function can't take advantage of one constexpr argument, right? it's all or nothing? Hmmm.
 
@StackedCrooked HAHAHAHAHA
 
@StackedCrooked That's a violation of human rights.
 
@TonyTheLion <3
Oh, man, weekends feel so good. Now I can work without pressure. :D
 
rebecca.blackfriday
 
12:03 AM
@ElimGarak Yes, working without pressure is actually really nice.
 
> kicking in the front seat, kicking in the backset, gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Friday problems.
 
@StackedCrooked Have you seen the parody Columbo posted a few days ago?
 
Driver seat, regardless of occupancy, naturally.
 
12:05 AM
Everyone ironically playing and linking to song they oh so hate keeping it alive who would've guessed
 
you
 
@AndyProwl Ahahah, gawd.
 
Have a shot @Cat
 
Rebecca Black also stars in this Katy Perry vid.
 
12:06 AM
Uggggh don't talk to me about alcohol
I'm still recovering from yesterday
And I haven't even drank that much
Fuckin old people
 
lightweight
 
Vodka is garbage
 
yep, I am confirmed fool: that stuff is evaluated at runtime regardless of the constness of its expressions.
 
I feel sick just thinking about it now uggh
 
Imma go make myself a dunce cap
except not really, that would require getting up
@ScottW Friday time is mumble time /cc @Nooble @nick
 
12:12 AM
 
@nick you ready to mumble?!?!?
 
I'll be on in a couple minutes
 
that cat is regretting his life decisions
@nick :D
maybe we can work together to get @Tony to unmute himself.
 
@Tony TOOONYYYYYYY
he's dead
 
you forgot the Jim
 
12:16 AM
@jaggedSpire so herb lied? D:
 
user406009
No one is in mumble. Other than jagged.
 
@melak47 and I'm a moron! :D
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire How do you know it's evaluated at runtime?
 
@Lalaland How do you know that?
 
@Lalaland I'm shocked and saddened that you value my silent company so little
 
12:17 AM
also...why std::terminate - wouldn't an exception be marginally more helpful in finding the error?
 
@melak47 Which situation?
 
user406009
@nick Cute
 
@TonyTheLion Well enough i guess
 
@Puppy constructing an array_view with wrong size
 
@Lalaland because you can check whether a constexpr function is being used as a constexpr function by evaluating it with noexcept--if it's constexpr, it'll be considered noexcept.
 
12:18 AM
@melak47 How would you know?
 
otherise, it's not being evaluated at compile time
 
@melak47 either is fine when I use GDB
 
@Lalaland you too bb
 
@Puppy how would I know what?
 
@melak47 That it's the wrong size.
 
12:19 AM
because template <typename T, size_t N> constexpr array_view(T(&arr)[N], size_type size) in this case
 
why the unholy fuck would you ever take a size parameter.
 
@nick he was on, but fled at the prospect of spending time alone in a chat room with me (and a muted Tony)
 
you already know the size- it's N.
 
Idunno
I didn't write it :D
 
@Puppy because you might want a view smaller than the array size
 
12:20 AM
Good flag, good job
 
The fuck c++
 
Hello, @DonLarynx
 
user406009
Oh, that person is here again.
 
@jaggedSpire Then just permit constructing one array_view from another array_view with a lower N.
 
12:21 AM
@Borgleader augh so cute
 
Oh for fuck's sake can we start permabanning idiots now
Apparently they don't learn
 
if only you were an owner Cat, you could do something about it
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus Maybe you should run for mod?
 
What, inconvenience them temporarily?
 
@Puppy they do allow that
 
12:22 AM
@Lalaland hahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahhahaha no
 
@Lalaland modplusplus
 
vote me in as mod
 
but you would be the best mod, Cat
 
@CatPlusPlus ISTR that if you keep kicking them, they get autobanned for some period
 
Why the fuck would I want to do unpaid job for snack overflow
 
12:22 AM
and here are the stars, irritating and everywhere
 
@jaggedSpire Then you have no need of this constructor to construct a smaller array view.
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus For the joy of banning people.
 
I really don't care about the stupid site
Last thing I want to do is moderate it
 
@Lalaland It would go as well as Goretiti's candidature
 
@Puppy I think they wanted to provide a shortcut for that, but I really don't know. vOv
 
12:23 AM
@Lalaland good joke
 
@CatPlusPlus: You are such a grouch!
 
@JonClements He's back with the flags. Deal with him.
 
sighs
 
Sorry
 
12:26 AM
@JonClements Happy to see you though <3
 
sup Borgleader <3
 
Sadly the circumstances are less than ideal
@ElimGarak sup
 
@CatPlusPlus that's why we love you cat, so straight to the point
 
@JonClements Welcome back :/
 
@JonClements Sorry
 
12:27 AM
Well - not your fault is it :)
 
idk what genre this is, but im likin it
 
I hope I don't have an alternate personality that stalks this chat and raises bad flags. That would be a waste of time.
 
@JonClements Sorry if I sounded a bit rude and demanding. Had a long day.
 
@ThePhD How have you been? I promise you soul is safe from me for at least the next day.
@Borgleader it's pretty kickin', I agree.
 
@Mysticial no worries - we all have those - had my fair share this week sadly... c'est la vie and all that
 
12:31 AM
@JonClements :)
 
I have cough to sell. Green and yellow phlegm included.
 
What are you trying to achieve?!? You're doing primality tests on the ASCII ordinal value of individual characters. That have not been initialized. This code does not make any sense. — sehe just now
 
@Borgleader that nose though
 
@sehe bi;dr (bad indentation; didnt read)
 
@wilx I'm disappointed that despite your terrific sales technique and obviously fantastic product - I'm still not leaping up to purchase it
 
12:33 AM
> #include <stdio.h>
 
@JonClements :D
 
You're doing too many things wrong. What you get is Undefined Behaviour in many places. Can you answer my question in the comment at your question? — sehe 12 secs ago
 
I am selling my elite trolling skills @ 10 pullets an hour.
2
 
@Borgleader fixed that part. It's worth the read if you wanna laugh
@chmod711telkitty and you're already sold out
Yes I know that is something my instructor want me to do. It is complicated. There is nothing wrong with the logic. It works fine. I only have problem with this scanf. It reads my input very well. but it conflicts with "count++;" and program is not responding. — Tayfur Gazioglu 21 secs ago
OMGWTGROFLBBQ
 
@sehe I am so, so sorry.
 
12:37 AM
@TayfurGazioglu I'm going to let you take all the time you need to come to grips with Undefined Behaviour and how computers have a tendency to just /do/ exactly what you tell them to. In this case you tell the computer to do random things, and this is what you get. — sehe 16 secs ago
 
user406009
Eh, I would have just said you need to initialize the buffer variable.
 
user406009
Although that code looks like a buffer overflow exploit just waiting to happen.
 
"dog graphics"
 
@Lalaland You've scratched the surface soooooo little it's not even funny :)
 
12:46 AM
 
@melak47 they already promised that awhile back when they said they'd ship SFINAE in an update to VS2015
 
@Borgleader that eyeblink. ^_^
@Mgetz What?!?! :D
@AndyProwl I love that dopey grin
 
@jaggedSpire same here
 
@jaggedSpire yep, apparently STL has already updated for the update and almost has the standard library building with -fno-ms-compat using cl2.exe (clang)
 
12:49 AM
lol
 
eh... that one isn't as funny
 
we're hitting the bottom aren't we
 
@Mgetz I'm going to be ecstatic when that ships
@Borgleader needs more adorable animal
 
@jaggedSpire well until it does... take it with a large dose of salt, I'll believe it when I see it
 
@jaggedSpire ahem
 
12:51 AM
macroes
 
'The code has nothign to do with c++. The formatting has to do with cat droppings.' - lol
 
@chmod711telkitty those ears are amazing
 
yeah ... cute, fluffy, big eared cubs
 
12:58 AM
good eve @all from Antarctica!
 
@decltype_auto i dont think owls can survive in antarctica
 
lol, @sehe's current pet moron is really funny: 'There is no error in the code'. Well, OK, then its data/stack must be really fucked up:)
 
@Borgleader template<warmth = owl_cosy_tag> struct Antarctica {}; // that is
 
@MartinJames What's worse, of course, I'm writing the C++ variant now
 
@sehe Good luck with that! I'll be watching, popcorn ready...
 
1:01 AM
@MartinJames You can't. I stopped the stream
 
Ell
Girls are a fkin nightmare
 
And nearly done
 
@Ell Not @jaggedSpire :)
 
@sehe Is it going to be a titan of overkill?
@Borgleader <3
 
1:02 AM
Antarctica sucks
 
Ell
It maketh no sense
Why would she choose 4 flights of stairs over the lift
 
@Ell what did a member of my gender do this time?
 
@Ell Exercise.
 
@Ell I take the stairs to the fifth floor everyday at work.
because exercise (its the only one im like to get anyway)
 
1:03 AM
I concur with Martin James
 
That, and lifts are really fucking slow when you're in a hurry.
 
@jaggedSpire Nope. Of course it'll be simpler
 
Assuming the stairs are clear, I can easily outrun a lift over 4 flights.
 
Nothing like updating Windows to get fucked in the ass... Well, perfect timing to bring the updated Visual Studio into the fold. D3D12GetDebugInterface: This method requires the D3D12 SDK Layers for Windows 10, but they are not present on the system.
 
@Ell 4 flight of stairs all the times would make her thigh & butt look better? :p
 
1:05 AM
@sehe I could say I'm disappointed by this news, but I'd be lying
 
@ElimGarak Hehe.. get downloading...
 
@Mgetz when are we gonna get C2?
 
@melak47 well given that C2 is technically already available for download (via the winobjc project) that would be now
but it's only 32bit
it's flaky as hell
 
> Additionally, more than 200 compiler bugs are fixed. These include many that were submitted by customers through Microsoft Connect.
Not sure whether impressive or terrifying. Both, probably.
 
I do appreciate the humor in responding to a specific question with "Here's an implementation for the general case with customizable error handling" though :)
 
Ell
1:07 AM
@chmod711telkitty her butt looks pretty damn fine already
 
@jaggedSpire It's there
 
user406009
@ElimGarak melak should probably check if his long list of bugs have been fixed yet.
 
@user3386109 Just for kicks, I've added a c++ interpretation of that comment. — sehe 5 secs ago
 
@ElimGarak Subtext: '..but we left in the 400 linker bugs'
 
1:08 AM
:D
I've oft confessed I don't actually answer the questions just for the OP.
 
@Ell because she keeps on climbing those 4 flights of stairs >_<
 
Often I find myself curious and wanting to try thigns
 
perfectly understandable
 
@Borgleader ahahah, wat
 
1:10 AM
they are excellent
 
@sehe lol giving someone who clearly doesn't understand containers an example with a lambda function applied to a range. :D you're the best.
 
Whatever happens, they'll have had the chance to see modern c++
 
I'm sure they'll worship at the altar of Polar Bears for some time now
@Morwenn it's delicious, though I don't have a blender so it's rather more chunky than real tikka masala. :3
 
Some do. Well, appreciate it, I mean. This Taygur guy seems to absorbed with having his ego dented
 
1:16 AM
Hahahahahaha I forgot this existed
 
@Borgleader Googling sexy phrases ahahah
 
@sehe Wonderful!
 
@ElimGarak very nice
 
What I find amazing that all those linked linked list assignments around apparently don't include any hint towards iterator abstraction.
 
I'm gonna go practice dvorak. Maybe one day I'll be able to type for real instead of this weird insult to the name of typing I do now.
 
1:20 AM
@ElimGarak he's fucking awesome
 
@DaGhostmanDimitrov and... he self answers and gets kudos for that, but he completely neglects a full blown rewrite - that is actually in c++ - because his ego is bruised. — sehe just now
 
Although, I appreciate the slight variations, makes the thing not get boring.
 
> Likes to occasional summon CORBA from the side of the styx it allegedly resides nowadays. In addition, admires WSDL for its syntactic simplicity and intuitive syntax and usability so much, that he's too shy to even touch it unless forced to do so...
Very very very nice
Welcome. You'll fit right in.
Inb4 cicada
 
@sehe I'll do my best
 
confirmed then :)
 
1:26 AM
@Nooble @ElimGarak @jaggedSpire I was out shopping
thats why I wasn't on Mumble
 
Leaving the house at 1:30am without a loaded gun. Truly a lion. :D
 
@ElimGarak :D
 
@ElimGarak Why would he carry a weapon? Its not like he was going to the dentist
 
@sehe WSDL needs to die and burn in hell
 
@Borgleader lol
 
1:28 AM
@Borgleader or the coffee shop
 
> // If the object was allocated on the tack
I sense a typo.
 
Tacky object allocation
 
nah they totally mean tack
 
was allocated on the smack/crack
 
Prodigy - Stack my bitch up
 
user406009
1:30 AM
Foolish @StackedCrooked. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the newest proposals. The tack is a majestic new storage method. When something is allocated on the tack, it never gets deallocated. Turn off your computer, nuke the site from orbit, whatever, and it will still be there.
 
Fortunately, the Givers Of Data created a python suite to generate WSDL from code
 
So... There was some research into halloween porn searches...
 
@Lalaland so it's "the cloud"?
 
@ElimGarak do I wanna know?
 
1:31 AM
lol
 
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
wtf
hahahaha
 
@ElimGarak Is that a Warm Bodies parody?
 
@Lalaland is update 1 out?
 
@Borgleader I've no idea, I just can't believe it is a thing ahahah
 
1:33 AM
me neither
 
ugh...RC
 
What's a Zombie compared to Vulcan Polly on Pon Farr?
 
T'Pol <3
 
Her jumping at Reed was priceless.
 
1:35 AM
Hey, guise, I'm starting to like decltype_auto, so I am in the phase where I suspect he's a returning regular.
 
@ElimGarak how ironic coming from you :)
 
user406009
Well, it is a new account.
 
@Borgleader Precisely because of that :D
In a world full of help vampires, a new hope is rising. Lounge<C++>, action adventure RPG.
 
user406009
@decltype_auto If you actually are new, having people come back here under a different name is pretty darn common.
 
@Lalaland UGH, you get to download a 2.6GB .iso image. I bet this integrates smoothly with 2015 RTM...
 
user406009
1:37 AM
Some people here switch like every month.
 
@melak47 Yeah, downloading it now.
 
@Lalaland: I c.
 
ok ill play along too
Jul 6 '14 at 18:58, by Borgleader
@AaronKyleKilleen Public service announcement
 
@ElimGarak maybe the smarter thing would be to download the standalone compiler SKU preview thing, and see if that integrates with 2015 RTM
 
@melak47 Updating to Build 10576 broke my VS installation. >:|
 
1:41 AM
:S
what's wrong with ...10565 was it?
 
Usually it goes smooth, but every so often something like this happens. No matter, incentive to the get the RC.
 
have they re-released it? or un-recalled it?
 
@Borgleader Such developer skill.
 
wtf? Why has someone 1) emailed me a link to a karaoke, and 2) why do they have it anyway? Although - fairly amusing... earthcam.com/usa/louisiana/neworleans/bourbonstreet/…
 
1:44 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think if you read the things well, I'm reasonably balanced here. The comment might be "off-topic". But so are a lot of comments. We're people too. — sehe 8 secs ago
 
Why are compiler improvments listed under "known issues"
I mean I know it's MS, but still
 
@ElimGarak even if that is the case, you'll be late in calling it :0
 
MS? Wasn't that the one hit wonder that released one OS named XP and quit afterwards?
 
user406009
Such as C#.
 
user406009
And they are really trying to improve recently.
 
user406009
1:48 AM
No. MS actually puts out quality products.
 
user406009
Eh, snack chat messed up the comment ordering.
 
ok, I'll go and hibernate for today . Good night, Ladies & Gents!
 
night
augh why am I back in qwerty
 
Actually formatting the text of your assignment I read it... This assignment makes me sad. You should fire your uni/professor for that... :( — sehe just now
@decltype_auto Sleep well
 
@sehe at least he wants vectors?
 
1:59 AM
I realize after formatting the question that your assignment imposes ridiculous requirements ... I'm sorry for that. I hope this answer shows you that code does not have to be as bad as it was taught in your class. If that is of any consolation. — sehe just now
And I've let it come to 3am again. Well, sleep well everyone!
 
@sehe sleep well
 
Too cute
 
@sehe Glorious
 
@nick GET ON MUMBLE
 
@sehe nice!
 
2:15 AM
@JerryCoffin did you pick ?
 
@ScottW HEY MUMBLE
there's a party and we're waiting for you
 
cake will be had
 
please, @Scott. Don't leave us hanging.
if you do we'll start a cult and then you'll regret abandoning us.
We'll start posting about C++ in the Lounge
 
@jaggedSpire Oh no, we cant have anyone doing that
 
Blame Scott, he's making me. :(
@Borgleader mumble? :)
 
@Nooble shit sorry, totally forgot
 
@jaggedSpire you left D:
 
@Borgleader firefox was being unusually awful just after I opened the pdfs of several cppcon talks
I couldn't even move my mouse for a bit there
 
2:52 AM
:(
 
I should probably mention that the pdfs were in chrome
why do I use two browsers? vOv
 
i use two browsers too, firefox chokes under all the tabs i use
or rather leaks too much memory and needs to be restarted
so i shifted most of them to chrome at the expense of using a lot of memory all the time
 
yeah when I closed FF just now it was at around 400MB of memory, and then it took forever to release it all.
 
@jaggedSpire mine would crash at over 2.2GB of RAM
 
It's not awful awful, but I have 4GB of RAM
 
2:54 AM
4GB VRAM, you mean
 
I upgraded to 16GB of ram because of all the tabs i have
oh and VS
 
lol
 
@melak47 I am pretty confident I do not use 4GB of space for framebuffers
@Borgleader oh, VS
I think I'm getting a case of stockholm syndrome for MSVC
it's not bad enough yet that I like 2013, fortunately.
but I'm super excited about upgrading to 2015
 
@jaggedSpire can't wait for those 200+ new bugs? :)
 
I'm waiting for the november update before installing all of it
clang <3
 
3:00 AM
CHandler <3
 
@melak47 they bring zest to my life. Without MSVC, my life would be lacking a certain amount of unending torment.
 
yes, all hail chandler
 
I have 16GB of RAM but I'm only using 2.5 right now. I don't think I've ever gone above 6 :/
 
@nick see how many tabs you can open in chrome
 
is that a challenge?
 
3:02 AM
yes
 
@jaggedSpire I have 33 in chrome (split across 2 windows) and 20 in FF
 
specifically, see how many tabs you can open with the C++ Standard's PDF.
@Borgleader nice
 
@jaggedSpire which one? :D
 
I just opened a bajillion tabs and I'm at 3.3GB
@jaggedSpire oh
yeah, no haha
 
@melak47 I'm going to go with...N4296
@nick but those 1300 page pdf files!
 
3:07 AM
why would anyone distribute that much information as a flat file?
 
it died and freed the memory :)
 
Do you prefer = 0 or {} for member initialization?
 
@melak47 awh. :)
I like {}
 
Yeah, it's kinda nice.
I also like return {};
 
Oooh yeah. I love that especially when I'm returning a smart pointer.
It feels so nice
 
3:10 AM
 
refreshing all those tabs
 
@melak47 lol
I haven't been defining the default constructor for member variables with the declaration for those variables, mostly because I really only learned about that particular tidbit recently.
I think I like the way it logically extends the behavior of integral types, which I did know about.
 
@jaggedSpire eh what? o.o
 
@Borgleader I really don't know if you're surprised at my ignorance or at that feature of C++. to the former: I know! and to the latter: there's an example above
I think I actually learned it from reading the Guidelines
 
3:17 AM
@jaggedSpire of the int x = 0; in the class declaration?
 
@Borgleader the brace initialization is more the thing that surprised me
 
ah that, didnt know about that but then again why would i, vs doesnt support it :P
 
Curse you, VS!
 
my new wallpaper until i decide to take 5760x1080 screenshots of Witcher 3
 
> lmage not found
 
@Borgleader whoa, nice
 
d'awww
 
3:47 AM
Configuring your system. This might take a while.
 
@ElimGarak They're forcing me to reboot before I can try Update 1 RC :(
 
@melak47 So, it is going to ask me as well. :'(((
 
Alright! they fixed one of my bugs!
 
Still logging in...
 
but only one :(
 

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