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8:00 PM
@Puppy So again, maybe be a bit less vocal about things you're not interested in. If it would have gotten them in trouble, we'd have known 5 years back
@TemplateRex mmm? joking or bunker?
 
@Puppy you should worry about all these pics of your gut leaking from the cloud :-)
 
I don't take any gut-selfies.
 
(therefore no such thing exists)
 
@sehe no the commute, I can't know if I need an umbrella because I travel from inland to close to sea, and about half the times the weather is completely different
 
not that they would be terribly embarassing
 
8:02 PM
@TemplateRex You should know. Didn't you inquire about building authentication for medical details the other day?
 
I already refer to myself as "fat" all the time.
so it would be totally unsurprising if I turned out to be, I dunno, fat :P
 
@TemplateRex Ah. I love buienradar. Worked like a charm in my holiday. And it was a lot rainier than ideal, so we used it to great effect
@LightnessRacesinOrbit woot
 
@sehe yeah the hour-by-hour rain prediction in mm downfall is really accurate
@sehe re: bunker, see the comments on this Q&A on Workplace for some hilarious bunker job that I would never apply for
 
@TemplateRex I bet I've a different app here: play.google.com/store/apps/…
 
@sehe I wonder if they warn about golden showers when walking in certain amsterdam districts :-)
 
8:08 PM
They don't. That's not radar predicted
@TemplateRex Oh I've had my AIVD screening back when they let me work at NATO :) I can know probably mention it - since it's years ago
 
hmm
today I suddenly received five times my usual blog traffic.
 
And you know exactly why
 
@sehe my office mate worked at AIVD, they can talk about it, just not specifics
 
@sehe no
 
Because you can't tell me you missed the plink
 
8:10 PM
what, the one about the BoostCon video?
 
2 hours ago, by Andy Prowl
Just found this talk about Unicode in C++ by James McNellis from C++Now 2014 (probably the same he's going to give at CppCon). It also contains a brief discussion of @Puppy's proposal so I thought I'd post it here :) (apologies in case it's a repost).
Yup that one
 
yeah, but that actually hardly mentions anything at all about me.
 
Anyhow, check the referrers to know more
 
I watched the whole video (that's what I've been doing in the intermediate time)
 
@Puppy Mmm. Maybe peeps in this room looked at your site again for that reason
 
8:10 PM
@sehe and AIVD screening,that didn't take 18 months, right?
 
and it literally just says "Made proposal N3572 that offers X, Y, Z" move on.
he talks about it for about ten seconds with one slide.
doesn't even link to anything about it or me
 
@TemplateRex I don't recall. It was something that had to be done ahead of time, and my business unit had arranged for the screenings well ahead of time, so I don't actually know how long it took
Also, I never changed jobs for that, it was just contracting
@Puppy He links to N3572. Google knows. Admittedly, if there's no link to your domain...
 
hm, true enough.
 
2 mins ago, by sehe
Anyhow, check the referrers to know more
 
but the N3572 paper doesn't link to my blog or site :P
 
8:13 PM
> Admittedly, if there's no link to your domain...
 
right, I did in fact check them, but the analytics things only mentions referrers for less than a fifth of today's visits.
 
I have several former AIVD people as colleagues, they mostly quit because they were tired of the secrecy, not being able to share with their spouses, or not even able to mention their employer's name apart from "state department"
 
eh maybe it just got crawled by a spider.
 
hehehe. It could be malware trying to find an "in"
 
8:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel canadian air force? balloon warfare?
 
@TemplateRex We have jet fighters, you know (more specifically, a F-18 variant).
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh, yeah, you are G8 too right?
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel ... it asks me to fill out some shitty survey
and doesn't load the rest of the page
 
@Xeo Really?
 
@Xeo they want your GPS coordinates, for incoming air strikes
 
Xeo
8:19 PM
ahahahahaa
no
 
it's phishing
 
Xeo
they just suck at responsive design
I have my browser window on the left half of my screen
 
Well, Loreena McKennitt (yes, the singer) is now an honorary colonel in the RCAF.
 
Xeo
aligned with win+Left
and they don't render shit in that mode
Make it 10 pixel wider - the rest of the page is visible
 
@EtiennedeMartel what exactly? I'm missing it. Someone got appointed to some high position?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh. She's a singer. Mmm.
 
@Xeo Actually, once you get narrower than a certain width it falls in "mobile" mode.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I thought you had CF-16s and CF-22s as well?
 
If you make it even narrower, eventually shit's gonna appear.
@Mgetz F-22s? Right. That one's a bit embarassing.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Great Success.
 
8:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I didn't say many...
and I know you pulled out of the idiotic F-35 program
 
> Operational issues have been experienced and some have caused fleet-wide groundings. Critically, pilots have experienced a decreased mental status, including losing consciousness
Oh wow. This is great fun: hackertyper.net Now you can look like a true hacker
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Even handles backspace
 
Xeo
sehe discovers the interwebs
 
@sehe my primary fault is that it adds like, 3-4 characters per key pressed on the keyboard, so for any sane rate of typing the text is filling the screen way faster than you could possibly be entering it- otherwise, I like it
 
That's what hackers do.
 
right.
 
8:27 PM
@Puppy That's the point. You watch more tele than I do, you should know
 
I actually don't recall watching much with fake-hacking in it
 
> don't recall
meh
It's quite a long piece of code: hackertyper.net/_/misc/kernel.txt
 
Xeo
Yay, time for mojito
 
Ell
@Xeo Ooh yummy
 
apparently kiev and the separatists signed a preliminary truce
after a talk via telephone with putin
 
Xeo
8:38 PM
@Ell Indeed
 
TIL Go doesn't have inheritance
 
oh shit, chrome started displaying porn in the new tab history thingy
4
why does this even exist
 
they've been doing that for at least 3 years
 
Ell
TIL about hackertyper.net
 
and how did it associate a single picture with the whole website
 
8:43 PM
Not you too Johannes..
5
Q: "auto" variable used in lambda in its own initializer

Johannes Schaub - litbToday I found this code #include <cstdio> auto terminal = [](auto term) { return [=] (auto func) { return terminal(func(term)); }; }; Surprisingly, GCC accepts it. Clang rejec...

ah well
 
@Ell there is also guihacker.com
full screen, lean back, let everyone think you're an uber leet haxxor
 
@AlexM. Use Incognito mode next time.
 
I don't need to use incognito, I'm the only user on my PCs
I was just surprised
it's the first time this happened to me
just opened a new tab and I saw boobs all over the place
 
@AlexM. then you are either ignorant or complacent
 
huh, why?
 
8:47 PM
you are either unaware of the amount of tracking being done, or you are accepting the amount of tracking.
 
tracking of what?
 
more or less everything you do
 
then I'd have to use incognito for everything I do with the browser lol
too much work, and I don't particularly feel that I'm sharing anything important
 
not really, and not that that would help that much
 
8:49 PM
@AlexM. hint: you are
 
shrug
I really don't mind it
 
Apparently I managed to "confuse" gcc (with auto lambda recursively calling itself):
> runner.h:106: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
> Preprocessed source stored into /tmp/ccu7ET5R.out file, please attach this to your bugreport.
 
Ell
I don't really use incognito
I don't mind my data being used for advertising purposes
I don't like it being used by the NSA or whatnot but there's nothing I can do about that
 
Hey, who runs Coliru again? And what version of g++ is running?
 
@StackedCrooked
Also you can run g++ --version yourself, you know.
 
8:58 PM
@OmnipotentEntity 4.9
 
@Griwes I tried that but it took so long to return, that I figured it had hanged or something. I kinda jumped the gun a bit.
@Rapptz Thanks!
 
Coliru is slow sometimes
 
user3010322
As I understand it, it's a single thread running one compilation job after another.
 
user3010322
Wonder if I can find the conversation.
 
user3010322
Or we can just ask @StackedCrooked to confirm. :D
 
Xeo
9:04 PM
Damn, I need some non-scrubs as opponents in SpeedRunners
 
@AlexM. favicon?
 
I just plucked my first grey hair.
 
user3010322
That was quick.
 
@sehe they're big tiles which show snapshots of content
 
9:09 PM
what was
 
and that particular tile decided to show a full pic I recently saw
 
user3010322
The best way to give the user the option of lazy-loading a stream is by asking them to hand a Func<Stream> right?
 
@Rapptz "If you think that's bad, wait until you get them in your pubes." -My grandmother
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Grey hairs!
 
@ThePhD It is.
 
9:10 PM
it's not actually a grey hair, it's one of those single grey hair things :<
it happens
 
user3010322
It's not a grey hair, but it's a... grey hair? o.0
 
speaking of which, I should probably call her.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit This "KickassFacts.com" site really looks cool.
I mean, with their unsourced stories and all.
 
@ThePhD It's technically white. It just means there's no pigment in my hair for some odd reason.
 
@AlexM. so you admit it!
 
user3010322
9:12 PM
@Rapptz Ooh, those silvery hairs.
 
Grey hair is technically white.
 
Nop.
 
user3010322
They're like super shiny
 
user3010322
and like gleam in the sunlight.
 
Grey and white hair is different
 
user3010322
9:13 PM
Yeah, I've seen that white hair.
 
Grey means there's not a lot of pigment in the hair. White means there's none.
 
@sehe oh sh--
 
> You can never trust a SVN merge.
 
@AlexM. Don't worry, with good behaviour you can be on probation after 6 years
 
^ actual SVN commit message.
 
9:17 PM
@EtiennedeMartel s/SVN//
@EtiennedeMartel oh
 
argh leading space!
 
wot
 
You want s/ SVN// or s/SVN // otherwise it will be shit.
 
Ah. For chat it doesn't matter (except withing code formatting "verbatim" style)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I did a relatively large merge at work yesterday...and it was easy. Too easy...but it built fine. Still, I don't trust it :/
 
9:21 PM
@sehe it matters for my brain
 
You should, indeed, not trust it, unless you've reviewed all the merges.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh well.
 
my colleagues tend to just accept a merge as long as there were no conflicts
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
9:21 PM
and then if there are conflicts they just overwrite the base version with their new file
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Which works. 90% of the time
 
user3010322
Man.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and then they're fired?
 
user3010322
I wish I had templates so badly. :c
 
9:22 PM
the number of times I've had to re-fix other bugs because nobody bothered to actually analyse a merge
@sehe no :(
 
user3010322
I have to just keep writing overload after overload in C#...
 
@ThePhD you stuck in C# land? Need a lift?
 
user3010322
@melak47 When I go home today I'm going to drown myself in templates.
 
@sehe it's basically the norm. we'd have to fire, like, almost everyone except me.
 
user3010322
Templates, libpng, and webm.
 
9:23 PM
I've gotten used to reviewing everything as a matter of course
 
now they can't fire you or they'll never be able to merge anything again!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't believe it
 
Ell
Hmm I wonder where vim is looking for syntax files
 
@sehe it's true :(
our place is .... weird.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We do that too. Interestingly the local team is just us 2 now
 
user3010322
9:24 PM
Hey
 
user3010322
Is it alright if I post a gist here
 
@melak47 Except they don't realize it
@ThePhD no onebox, fine
 
@sehe some of the juniors are improving so I wouldn't fire all of them atm. but on the surface of it, we could survive (and probably do better) with a specific three of us
 
user3010322
and some of you guys looka t it to tell me if there's a better way to work then writing all these... overloads?
 
@sehe you'd expect things to start breaking if they always replace conflicts with the new version
 
9:25 PM
(the other two of the three are good at some stuff that I'm not so hot on)
 
@melak47 strongly; however, most of those would be immediate breakages (famous merge conflicts in solution/project files?) or subtler regressions (reverted hotfixes?))
 
Ell
Woah. I just saw sehes message about hackertyper
 
oooooooooooooooh
ugh FB is still up and down
someone's gon get fired
 
user3010322
^ Can I write better overloads for this?
 
9:29 PM
@Ell bleh, unless it looks like you're typing in multiple windows at once, then it only makes you look like a scrub :p
also, EW I'M TYPING C!
 
@melak47 Hmm...is C! the replacement for C#?
 
:p
 
Ell
what do you call web apps just made with javascript? and no page reloads or what
 
Single page webapp?
^ I have just made that up.
 
@Ell Client-side webapp
 
Ell
9:37 PM
But it also communicates with the server
 
> just made with javascript
 
Ell
@milleniumbug node ;)
 
@Ell web...sites?
 
Ell
What I mean is
Meh I don't know how to say what I mean concisely
 
cruddy?
 
9:39 PM
@Ell You can enter 500 chars in a single message, you know.
 
oh
really?
But writing things like this
 
if you are ever feeling down just remember that you are 50% mermaid
 
makes you read like Shatner sounds
 
A single-page application (SPA), also known as single-page interface (SPI), is a web application or web site that fits on a single web page with the goal of providing a more fluid user experience akin to a desktop application. In a SPA, either all necessary code – HTML, JavaScript, and CSS – is retrieved with a single page load, or the appropriate resources are dynamically loaded and added to the page as necessary, usually in response to user actions. The page does not reload at any point in the process, nor does control transfer to another page, although modern web technologies (such as those...
 
Ell
Now I need set up fastcgi with python with lighttpd
I think. Maybe.
 
9:46 PM
@paulm: In std::vector<int> v(5); std::cout << v[rand() % 10]; there is most definitely a problem, but Valgrind will only detect it 50% of the time at best (that percentage is actually lower, because Valgrind will also fail here if the memory immediately following the vector's data also happens to have been allocated beforehand). If you've not put proper assertions in place then it's quite easy to end up with this sort of bug thanks to user-input. It's not ill-formed, it's UB, and you can't automatically, reliably detect it at runtime in the general case. That's what I'm saying! — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 mins ago
I'm right, right?
 
Ell
Meh I'll just use the debug server.
 
@Ell I just wrote my own cgi class in C++ and it works really well. I want to look into web sockets to improve things though. I do full AJAX requests atm (v1.0!)
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit for reals? o.O
 
@Ell yeahs
cgi namespace, actually
 
Ell
Oh awesome. Can I see it?
 
Ell
Aww
 
technically I suppose it does not belong to me any more :(
or... ever did, really
 
Ell
Ah I see
 
still, when I leave, you'd better believe I'm taking my code with me and using it in my own projects
(DISCLAIMER FOR LEGAL PURPOSES: no i'm not)
 
Ell
lol
 
9:53 PM
I'm actually technically not under contract anyway
All of my signatures were on fixed-term employment agreements that expired years ago. Nobody ever bothered to draw up a new one
As long as I'm getting paid into my bank account every month it's not in my best interests to draw any attention to this fact (there are zero benefits for me to be able to legally prove employment using such a document in case of dispute, given various factors such as documents I have signed for other purposes that identify me as an employee to sufficient degree to be acceptable in a court of law)
And in the meantime I guess I'm not subject to any of the IP requirements, if I didn't mind going to court to prove it anyway
However I've also not marked any of the code as being under any sort of licence from me. So one could argue that, being developed on company machines and stored on company servers, it is inherently a "gift".
 
You are living dangerously.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't think so. The code is your own until you license it, not the other way round, right?
 
@Ell Not sure
Ideally
 
Ell
I'm quite sure that's the case
 
Is SVN commit author information sufficient to prove original authorship, though? You can change that information trivially, or submit code using my account.
 
Ell
9:59 PM
Yeah that's true
 
In reality it's clear to everybody as to which code is mine, but if they all went against me I'm not sure I could categorically prove it
 
Ell
It's difficult to prove most history really. Well, impossible basically. I think you're fine :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't know how to change author stuff for git
Hmm..
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm not sure if SVN (or anything) supports this, but if you had to sign your commits using a public key I guess you could prove you did it
 
10:01 PM
760
Q: Change the author of a commit in Git

Flávio AmieiroI was writing a simple script in the school computer, and committing the changes to Git (in a repo that was in my pendrive, cloned from my computer at home). After several commits I realized I was committing stuff as the root user. Is there any way to change the author of these commits to my name?

 
Ell
*private key
 
Change a commit, then recommit everything afterwards while copying the comment, user, and emai?
 
requires a massive history rewrite
it's not a good idea after you've pushed... I don't think
 
Ell
I need to think of a url scheme for my documentation thing
 
@Ell only 4 comments until racism
@Ell are you sure you're not reading random lines from CSI scripts?
 
Ell
10:09 PM
@sehe I don't know what I'm doing :*(
 
@Rapptz diddit
 
in a .rc file i have one question. COMBOBOX IDC_DEVICE_LIST,15,17,93,78
whats 15,17,93,78
 
how the fuck should we know??
 
i mean that whats the syntax for this ?
 
looks like javascript
 
10:10 PM
@User Look it up in the documentation?
 
i ouldnt find doumentation thats y here
 
@User Nobody does WinAPI here.
 
not true
 
BTW .rc is ancient, as evidenced by that MSDN page having a screenshot from Windows 3.1 on it
 
isn't .rc being used in new win32 VS projects too?
 
10:12 PM
it is
.rc and .res
 
you can only edit it w/ VS pro
 
it's a 20 year old screenshot in fact
 
@User it's dialog resource cruft. MSDN knows
@Rapptz ssshhh. lay low for a minute or 5
 
Oh my god, this: "auto main() -> int" is awful. It's not fun to try to use new tools when the old one are already perfect for the job. Or is "int main()" so 2010 ? — xryl669 Sep 2 at 17:35
 
Wow, thanks so much. The question was misleading because I had no clue what the problem was, you are right, that solved it. I see the silly error now. Thanks for your time! It is greatly appreciated! — Jeff 4 mins ago
 
You can stop now. The OP has already malfunctioned due to a 0-day in Win3.11 for workgroups
 
whoa, functionx
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Thank you very muh :)
 
> very muh
 
@User np. FYI, that's the third Google result for rc file COMBOBOX. Try harder next time k
 
10:15 PM
*Much :D
 
look at how ancient that site is
it still shows even after all these years
 
awesome isn't it
IT HAS A HIT COUNTER
 
@User In the mean time, consider replacing your keyboard with one that doesn't randomly drop/alter characters, because that will be annoying when trying to program
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and it's still rendering
 
> Last Update: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:58
it's in white colour, but it's there at the bottom right of the page
so hardly "ancient"
looks like most of the content is from 2003 though
 
Not sure if this has come up before, but this rendition of Stack Overflow has been growing on me -- the quick efficiency with which many questions get answered is somewhat impressive.
 
10:17 PM
0
A: An experiment: Stack Overflow TV

Josh WQuestion appears to be duplicate of http://www.youtube.com/user/Computerphile :P

 
> C++Builde X
Builde.
Very similar to butte.
 
So funny. Not ^
 
@sehe Yes, right, that's where it's from.
Well, from somewhere on that post in any case
 
> Downvote. Off-topic.
 
@sehe To that meta post?
 
10:21 PM
@KerrekSB YT
 
4
Q: Is there a reason almost every "Hot Question" on Stack Overflow is about C++?

Tom HartSince I've started using the Hot Questions, I've noticed a good 80% of all questions on Stack Overflow that appear there are to do with C++. Is there something about C++ questions that naturally give them the "Hot" factor? Or is this just a coincidence? Some extra information: The only C++ quest...

 
Finally, an infographic to getting rid of bugs: thumbnails-visually.netdna-ssl.com/…
 
I just use spiders
I mean I don't kill spiders
when they have nothing to eat they leave
 
10:36 PM
It's really quite exhaustive
 
I don't kill spiders too.
 
@AlexM. When I see one, I vaccum it. When my dad does, he feeds it to the turtles.
 
Ell
When I see one I let it scurry away
when my mother sees one, she calls me to take it and place it out of the window
 
10:45 PM
when I see one I'm just glad it's a spider and not a kitchen bug
 
Ell
is this too verbose for a url?
 
We generally don't let our spiders live because the entire house is invested with them and there are no other insects in the house that annoy us. (except for ants which our spiders don't eat)
 
last time I saw a kitchen bug I took a magazine and smashed it good
half of it flew 2 meters away
 
Ell
http://www.sol-doc.com/sol/stack/pop_reverse_call(int *, TFx &&, types<Args...>)
 
I swear, I measured
 
10:45 PM
@Jeff, why don't you fix up those spots, instead? Your code was broken and leaking. See c++03 version Live On Colirusehe 26 secs ago
 
@Ell Look at how Sphinx generates it
 
heh. just added
> (and no, it wasn't leaking nudes)
 
they do some replacements based on the signature
 
Ell
I hope cat isn't here. He'll tell me to write a sphinx plugin :P
I will look at it though
 
Some examples.
 
10:46 PM
@Ell yes
 
class is_renderer_drawable<T> -> is_renderer_drawable:T:
 
Ell
Not that one would really type in the url anyhow, you'd just search, but I want the urls to be at least readable
 
static display_mode closest(const display_mode& to, int index=0)
static display_mode closest(int width, int height, int index=0)
// becomes..
display_mode::closest__display_modeCR.i
display_mode::closest__i.i.i
etc
 
...or just mangle it the same way that Itanium ABI does :P
 
Ell
@Rapptz I don't actually like that to be honest
 
10:49 PM
it works
 
Ell
Yeah true
 
CR -> const reference, int -> i
 
Ell
any browser worth it's salt shows decoded urls in the address bar anyway
 
@Shog9 To be perfectly honest, I didn't get the attraction to watching other people play video games at first either until I started watching some streams that friends recommended. I'd definitely be interested in watching some of the better-known or intelligent programmers in my favorite tags theorize about and solve problems on SO in an interactive stream :) — Rachel yesterday
That's... maybe worth a shot
 
@sehe Well, the proposal is fairly vague and broad. I'm sure there's plenty of interesting things one could be talking about. Not sure. That said, a weekly summary of SO in rap form would definitely go a long way :-)
No need to scroll on the phone in busy public transport, just plug in those earplugs and catch up.
 
10:52 PM
Nah. Just top hackers live streaming say an evening of SO hobbying
 
in this game: I fired a moon at the Death Star.
that certainly solved the problem.
 
(artificial) moons can be pretty lightweight
 
I hit it right in the superlaser
so although it survived the impact temporarily, they can't fire it anymore
 
Ell
hmm. to list free functions as their own list entry, or only when you click their parent namespace?
 
You're doing great for a first timer. Had you not come this far I would have vehemently recommended against using Boost Graph Library. Yeah, I was pretty brief in the bullets (but it was hidden under avoids new (and the missing delete[])). — sehe 11 secs ago
 

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