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10:00 AM
wokay
 
Maybe I'll have better luck with the repo branch instead of source release
 
@sehe Ugh. A cursory tells me it's another one where the author decides to call everythingd an their dog a monad.
The same way int is an iterator.
 
I wouldn't run everythingd
 
The code in the "Monad Final" picture has a functor in it, but no monad.
 
It doesn't seem to be a proper daemon
Also ahahahahaha people are squabbling over this murkdown shit
NO DONT CALL IT MURKDOWN
ITS VERY IMPORTANT
 
10:10 AM
> This is also referred to as Schönfinkel’ing after its author Moses Schönfinkel or Currying after Haskell Curry who elaborated the technique
Now all that's left is to think of a technical item to name "Moses"
 
@CatPlusPlus Wow, such fail.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes hahahaha
 
@CatPlusPlus what isn't
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You somehow managed to travel the typo back in time so that's impressive
 
// Hey, look, I implemented a monad:
std::vector<int> x;

// I lied. Implement the rest yourself.
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10:16 AM
Okay. I'm on it
 
I implemented a burrito and then ate it so you get nothing
 
Jul 8 at 15:21, by R. Martinho Fernandes
return = fmap id
join = (>>= id)
(>>=) = (join .) . flip fmap
fmap = flip (>>=) . (return .)
 
flip flap
 
@sehe For reference: however you decide to define the monad, all of those must be available.
The article has return as terminal, and fmap. Given fmap, return is actually redundant, and none of the others is implementable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why aren't these questions off-topic?
there have only been two that I've seen but they already annoy me
 
10:24 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Job Well Done
 
In Dolphin bar. There are large beers. Nothing to report at this time.
 
10/10 would monad again
 
Xeo
10/10, would moan at again
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@Rapptz Yeah, me too.
 
Unrelated
I don't care if anyone posted it
I might have I don't remember
 
Xeo
10:28 AM
> Works For Me™
Best ticket comment
(I wrote it)
 
> You're Fired™
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus is there a curry this is hilarious
 
Xeo
Hey, it was provably a PEBKAC problem on our QA part
 
Ell
10:54 AM
Why was I never taught this!
 
@CatPlusPlus that was meg
 
laff people arguing about murkdown license
It's the implementation license you fucking dolts
It even says "software"
Spec is not software
jesus chrsit
 
@CatPlusPlus Calm down.
 
@CatPlusPlus reminds me of "Peter Pan - Return To Neverland"
 
11:10 AM
also discourse 1.0 i wonder if it impro- NOPE STILL RUBY
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Ell
ruby is grate
 
from all the ror apps that I've deployed and used the only good ones wer pffahaha I'm kidding there were no good ones
 
@CatPlusPlus: How did it happen that you have grown so grumpy and dissatisfied?
 
I became a programmer
 
Bad move
 
11:13 AM
Terrible move
 
@Ell iruby is irate
 
prograndma? ... pro grandma?
 
I want a refund on those 12 years
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus why don't you become something else?
 
Saved by PKI supremacy
 
11:15 AM
me too
 
@Ell like what
 
Saved by supremacy
 
@CatPlusPlus C# IS WRITTEN IN C++
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus idk, what do you want to do besides programming?
Become a driving instructor
or a librarian
 
absolutely nothing
all day
every day
 
11:16 AM
@CatPlusPlus become friends with Lawrence.
 
Ell
That would make for a boring and unsatisfying life imho
start your own software consultancy businesss
or whatnot
 
Ell
then you only have to write what you want
 
life is boring and unsatisfying by definition and by default
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Cat consulting: "what you're doing is shit bye"
 
11:17 AM
anyone else feels like if you are trolled by God troll occasionally?
 
yeah fuck doing business that involves talking to clients directly
there is no god so i guess you got trolled p hard
 
Talking to clients is nice.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus wat n
no
 
watman
 
11:18 AM
@Xeo repost
@CatPlusPlus How can you tell?
 
because this industry exists
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and people in general
everything's terrible
i need to be awake for like 7 more hours to get to a seminormal sleeping schedule rip me
 
I'm so glad I'm not you.
 
never be me
 
a potato can never be a cat
 
don't kinkshame
 
Ell
11:21 AM
I'm so glad too
 
but anyway yeah fuck ruby
 
@chmod711telkitty no. we know that's constantly the case
 
@VáclavZeman I've been saying this for years.
@Ell People usually complain if they're given the definitions of things.
Because mathematics or something.
 
11:37 AM
@Ell it's beyond reproach
 
@Ell But what the hell were you told that a derivative is?
 
We didn't just learn that, we also learned how to use it to symbolically arrive at derivatives for functions. In highschool
 
The slope of the tangent at a given point.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well. We weren't really given a strict definition of a derivative
we all knew what one way. As you said, the slope of the tangent at a given point
 
@Ell Then...
 
Ell
11:40 AM
but we weren't given a mathematical definition like this
 
You were taught that.
@Ell "The slope of the tangent at a given point" is a mathematical definition.
It's the exact same thing you posted.
 
Ell
Okay. Let me rephrase it
we were only taught the wordy definition and not the symbolic one
 
In Costa Teguise Sports bar. There are large beers. Nothing of interest is happening. Please move along...
Fuck calculus and beer prices.
There is no differentiation - expensive everywhere.
 
large beers are the best
 
dBeerPrice/dBar tends towards zero.
.
 
Ell
11:51 AM
haha
I need to buy some perfboard
and assorted components
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Have you visited a doc wrt your stomach pains yet?
 
..or, the price of beer is a universal constant, the same for all drinkers.
 
Xeo
sigh
 
Why that question now?
 
Xeo
11:54 AM
23 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@VáclavZeman I've been saying this for years.
(IOW, go visit a friggin' doctor)
Just reminded me of that
 
Wait, I thought @thecoshman had stomach pains?
 
Xeo
Robot has had morning sickness for a damn long time now
 
Doctor: "Drink less beer, stay out of the Lounge".
 
we're all puppy
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus please not again
 
11:57 AM
@Xeo oh I wasn't aware of this
 
WOOF WOOF @Xeo
 
Xeo
Aug 6 '12 at 16:43, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I think I'm pregnant or something. I've been feeling morning sickness.
 
...... 'morning sickness'? I hardly know what...
 
Xeo
Earliest mentioning, I believe
 
Running out of Joules.
 
12:01 PM
> I am an omnivore; I will try almost anything if it doesn't gross me out. — Stallman
 
@Xeo I don't want to be sick :(
 
Xeo
You are sick.
Denial doesn't change that.
 
KRANK IM KOPF
 
why would I want to visit a doctor when no medicine can cure flu only to suppress the symptom?
 
Ell
@chmod711telkitty because you probably don't want the symptoms? :P
 
12:11 PM
yeah, in which the case why research a cure for cancer, just produce more pain killers
 
What
Congrats on your Logic Leap Of The Week award
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PostgreSQL calls a duration an interval. :v
 
@Xeo I can just do like I did with coffee some years ago: start making notes to identify the cause and then get rid of it.
 
@PolymorphicPotato And?
 
or you could just get some guy who's already done that and steal his results.
i.e., go to a doctor.
 
Ell
12:17 PM
@chmod711telkitty People will pay more for a cure :P
Also, because not all symptoms are treatable
ie significantly reduced lifespan
 
You needed notes to figure out coffee sucks?
 
I like coffee.
 
@TonyTheLion s/had/has/
it's getting less worse though
 
stomach pain is what you get when you are pregnant ... with bad ideas ...
 
I... don't... like doctors. When a car ran over my ankle, I didn't go for radiography until the following day.
 
12:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you are stupid.
 
that's not really fair, everybody does their own stupid things
 
Ell
I haven't visited a doctor in at least 10 years
 
@Puppy it is fair.
 
I hadn't visited one in a long time before sickness
 
Can anyone tell me how to enable auto-complete for NDK in eclipse
 
12:25 PM
@Ell and?
 
@james No.
 
@james Google
 
Ell
@thecoshman and what?
 
@Ell you don't go to the doctors unless you have something wrong with you.
it should be normal to never go see a doctor
 
not visiting in 10 years doesn't mean much if you haven't been chronically ill in 10 years
 
12:26 PM
oh, and being old is something wrong
so you have to go regularly
 
@thecoshman I could walk just fine, and pain I can withstand.
 
@james Yes, I can downvote that question for you.
 
(But yes, that hurt like hell)
 
@Puppy why
 
Xeo
12:29 PM
You're not supposed to just withstand pain
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and? would you rather walk on a broken ankle for a week and then have it fucked for ever more, or just go to the docs and have proper treatment put it in.
 
Xeo
Hm, apparently I coded a bug into some visualisation thingy, and it was never noticed - for almost a year
 
I could walk just fine.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so too can people after a knock to the head before the damage sets in.
pain => go to doctors
... or kinkyness
... not mutually exclusive
@james do not link dump you ignorant twit.
 
@james What. Are you demanding that we answer your question? U R TEH FAIL TEH IT.
 
12:31 PM
@Xeo Only surprising depending on the bug, really.
 
@Xeo you mean feature?
 
I would probably never go if my mother didn't insist.
 
@Puppy and the use of the area in problem.
@R.MartinhoFernandes you are stupid.
 
Though I did find walking and running with crutches cool.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes as I understand it, the novelty wears off.
 
12:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd invite you try it for five years and come back to me.
 
Xeo
@Puppy It was a blatantly obvious visualisation bug - health bars didn't update the way they are supposed to
 
@Xeo it's obviously a feature you don't need to waste time supporting :P
 
Xeo
also, wtf is up with my connection to chat
 
I was looking at some 10 year old code the other day and found 3 bugs in under five mins
 
@Xeo chat vIv
 
Xeo
12:35 PM
getting timeout after timeout
 
@Xeo We had broken animations unnoticed since ever until two of them eventually interacted badly enough for someone to complain and us to discover the whole system was broken.
 
> vIv
dafuq
 
@TonyTheLion I look at such code all the time, I consider my self lucky if I don't throw up.
 
@thecoshman I've desensitized
 
Guys I am searching but cannot find, what does the operator >> and << does in C++? like cout >> ... etc? what is it's meaning exactly and is it only used in cout and cin?
 
12:36 PM
You obviously suck at searching
 
@BenBeri it's an operator, go read up on those. now shoo
or maybe lofa... what ever really.
 
I did, I get bitshift operator.
 
lofa?
 
@BenBeri ~~It's a kind of magic~~
 
12:38 PM
they must be spiffy and Italian.
@milleniumbug ¬_¬ git
soooo very itchy from tattoo
 
oh you got your tattoo
nice
 
@thecoshman You can't convince me :( I don't have a rational justification for my behaviour.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you are stupid.
@TonyTheLion well, got some more work done it, another four hour session. anoth session to go.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Plan for the next Berlin Unconference - drag Robot to a doctor.
 
@Xeo well... seems 2015 is some Polish dive.
IMO London would be so much better
that way @TonyTheLion could easily come, @Puppy might be able to show face
it's handy enough for a fair few people really.
AFAIK, it's only @Bartek (where is he?) who Really wants Poland
@CatPlusPlus are you even that fussed about it?
 
Xeo
12:48 PM
@thecoshman I want Poland because Cat can't run away
 
@Xeo Fuck off.
 
@thecoshman Bartek is on a plane somewhere
 
@TonyTheLion to the UK... like yesturday
 
@thecoshman haven't seen him since
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: LIVE: We do not know where Bartek is. Panic averted. [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
@Xeo fairly sure he can just hide in his room all day, yes, room not flat.
braking an entry is not a crime when you know the person :D
 
12:50 PM
You guys go to Poland, I'll stay here
 
@TonyTheLion but I don't want to go to stinky Poland :(
 
That's not funny
 
@TonyTheLion question... do you have a chair of wheels? I wouldn't mind rather then you having to crutch it everywhere... and I'm sure the odd flight of stairs at the awkward stations wouldn't be too much...
@R.MartinhoFernandes nice. I like it. Very neatly done.
 
Is Danzig the English name of the city?
 
tempting to pin it XD
@R.MartinhoFernandes must be, the BBC reported it :P
 
12:53 PM
Oh, it's just Gdańsk. Damn.
@thecoshman Er, yeah, terrible reporters.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, that's a place I know.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes IDGI. This seems to never have happened.
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Xeo
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit whoosh
 
12:54 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o_0 were you born stupid?
 
You didn't seriously go to all the trouble of faking it?
 
@Xeo yes, that was the sound of the plane.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
LRiO's IQ just shot up to 50?!
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's rather easy.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hear they have the internet on computers these days!
 
12:55 PM
Yeah, sorry, when I saw a realistic screenshot from a well-established news site talking about a plane crash in which people would undoubtably have died, possibly people I know, my first reaction was that Robot must have gone to the trouble of faking it in Photoshop.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... you are not a very smart man.
just edit the html...
 
7 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
@thecoshman Bartek is on a plane somewhere
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Guess you missed this context.
 
Sorry, in my decision-making heuristics I must have incorrectly assumed that Robot would not be so distasteful.
 
12:56 PM
Also, thanks for the compliment about the realism.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok... what? how did you hack the BBC... because they can't of man such a bad article...
 
@thecoshman What?
I just opened that article and Firebugged it into the shape I wanted to screenshot.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "As it happens"... on a real news article? wow, #quality
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm on about the real article... it's terrible!
 
Oh. Didn't pay attention.
 
12:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't say it's not easy. But if the first thing I see when I wake up is people talking about Bartek being on a plane to the UK, and the word "panic" in the new room topic, and a screenshot from an article about a Polish plane to the UK crashing, since I'm a fairly decent person I'm going to first go on the basis that it may be true. Sorry for being a decent human being unlike you lot.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fair enough.
 
I've never seen you edit news article HTML for a joke before
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: LIVE: We do not know where Bartek is. Fairly sure he's not dead... [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
Probability was low and, when considering the impact of the alternative possibility... well, I don't think my reaction was unreasonable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah, mock him.
 
12:59 PM
I reproduced a BBC news article for a friend's birthday once
the URL gave it away a bit but otherwise I was pretty pleased with the result
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm unpredictable like that.
 

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