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7:00 PM
Guys
 
Why is using C++98 so much better than using C++11 and C++14
 
Are you trolling, or stupid?
 
just kidding..
 
7:01 PM
@Chantola obviously because 98 > 14
 
user1804599
SCOTT <3
 
Head. Aches. Rain.
 
user1804599
I am not in Limburg.
 
user1804599
No idea.
 
user1804599
Dat is in Brabant, kut.
 
7:08 PM
@ScottW What git for Windows
The official builds are msysgit, everything else is something else
Wow that never happens
Ever
msysgit
The thing you download when you click download on git-scm
dot whatever
 
7:34 PM
good, I have a recruiter from EA Bucharest in my linkedin network thingy now
I'm missing one from Ubisoft Bucharest
I'm collecting recruiters
 
user3010322
Gotta catch 'em all
 
user3010322
So you can know that EVERYONE can spell your name wrong.
 
Hey guys? C-style casts allow an ambiguity to arise when used in template code. Is that right?
 
no?
 
7:49 PM
dat collector's edition
japan only though
 
wrong room?
I mean there is anime.se for such big useless pictures
 
I wouldn't call en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrule_Warriors an anime though
 
well it's japan-related stuff
 
is there something wrong with posting japan-related stuff here?
this is like the 2nd time you throw this pointless "wrong room?" at me for posting something that has to do with japan
 
the picture is just too big
 
7:54 PM
do you have some sort of inner hatred for japan?
 
Much racist, very intolerance.
Wow.
 
anyway, I was going to continue
 
look, I'm about to say "fuck you"
 
No don't do that!
Say "Kindly, please, move on."
 
let's just close this topic
 
7:55 PM
the US version of that collector's edition was available in so few numbers that plenty of Zelda fans went crazy, and resellers make lots of profits on ebay selling them for as much as $1k
that's an insane amount of money for something so recently released
@Abyx if that helps you vent off, feel free
 
That's a lot of money for a single game.
 
who is that noodle btw^
 
What did you call me :C?
 
uhm
I didn't call you
 
That's Mr. CoolGuy to you!
 
7:58 PM
what?
 
What?
 
... seriously
 
What?
 
posted on September 26, 2014 by Eric Battalio

Given our strong focus on improving build times of our toolset as a part of the Visual Studio 14 preview we will be changing a few defaults for Visual C++'s debug and release configuration. These changes include making /Zc:inline (remove unreferenced...(read more)

 
@Feeds lol void main()
 
8:05 PM
.cpp, uses printf
 
hmm
it's true though that for VC14, they have put out a shitload of CTPs and stuff.
way more than for previous VS releases.
hmm
I've seen some of those new Stormtrooper helmet leaks from ep7, and they look more like Cylons than anything else
 
8:23 PM
Wow that thing is actually happening
 
What?
 
what's amazing is that they hired Abrams after the terrible Into Darkness
 
@Puppy After "the terrible Into Darkness"? Does that mean there was another "Into Darkness" that wasn't so bad?
 
hmm
just search the Internet for absolutely any other film with "Into Darkness" as a subset of the title.
 
Abrams is bad but Lucas is worse :v
And the upside is that you won't see all that shitty CGI clusterfuck they'll inevitably put in behind all the lens flares
 
8:31 PM
I vote we discuss only things worked on by Abrahams, not Abrams.
 
8:55 PM
@AlexM. Protip: Ignore Abyx.
 
@Rapptz Why is he always so angry?
 
Russian genes.
I don't know if I should buy Hyrule Warriors.
I have 20% off every new game for 2 years so it'd only cost me $48 at least.
 
@Rapptz From what I've heard, only get it if you like Dynasty Warriors.
Because it's nothing more than a Zelda reskin of that.
 
Of course.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty dumb since it's been advertised that since day 1.
 
9:03 PM
And since DW is a kinda niche thing...
@Rapptz Polygon sure thought otherwise.
That's why they gave it 5.5.
Because it's true, it's not a very good Zelda game.
 
I don't trust game reviews for anything
 
I just developed a technique to take a pile of scattered sticky dough and turn it into a ball with just a wooden spoon
cooking skill + 1
 
@EtiennedeMartel Eh, I think that's more of a marketing issue than an actual game issue. I mean, the game should probably be ultimately judged by whether or not it's fun, rather than whether or not it's fun in the same way as other games that happen to share the same name.
I think (haven't actually played these) that RE4 and MGS:Revengeance both managed to be successes whilst being quite different from previous titles in the same series
 
@Puppy The problem is that it's a particular kind of game.
"fun" is not an objective thing.
What people ultimately want to know is: "Will I like this game or not?"
 
right, but the ultimate answer to that question does not depend on the game's name.
 
9:10 PM
I wanted to code but then I realised that I didn't
 
And the answer is: depends on whether or not you like games of the same type.
 
It's not a marketing thing.
 
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@ScottW Potion Lore
 
Anyone who thought it was an actual Zelda game never watched any trailers or anything about the game and based it on the name alone.
 
Now, I've also heard that, even for a Musou game, it's not that great. It's a bit light on content.
 
9:11 PM
Even then, actual Zelda games are prefixed with "The Legend of Zelda"
 
I think that as long as the marketing doesn't market it as a game in the same vein, it's not really a problem for it to be just named Zelda.
whether or not it's just a reskin of another game, or actually fun in it's own right, is an independent question.
 
just don't use XNA
:p
 
Unity is the populars now
or UE4 maybe
 
XNA is dead
 
people still use it
 
9:16 PM
XNA has an horrendous asset pipeline.
There's no incremental build on there.
 
there's this 2D game I liked and noticed it was Windows only
I was pretty confused and then realised it used XNA lol
 
Bastion was made with XNA.
 
didn't like Bastion
 
they had an upgrade system but no incentive to use it
 
still
I think that the game that's really bumming me out now is KSP
kinda feels like they've added little to the game over the last year or so
 
user1804599
9:23 PM
Bastion Hotel
 
honestly KSP is pretty fun but
the game lacks content really
 
user1804599
"is pretty fun" okay good enough
 
@rightfold "Bastions check in, but they don't check out" doesn't sound quite right.
 
I dunno
it's not that I regret buying KSP, I just thought they'd have added more to the game since then.
First Contract was a big disappointment
but then again if I want to keep working on Wide I'll have to more-or-less cut gaming out of my future life
well I think
 
I just realized that a 100% async application would exit immediately since it doesn't block in the main function.
Therefore async sucks.
@Puppy inb4 burnout
 
9:38 PM
@StackedCrooked reductio ad good sensium. :-)
 
I had a meeting at work today
couldn't see the screen.
need glasses.
 
@Puppy you already started at the new job?
 
@Puppy So what's your early impression of the new job (beyond simply being happy that you're healthy enough to have a job)?
 
like it
 
seems more like undecided
probably too early to tell
he might not want to post the company name here if they have google alert
computer
 
10:03 PM
I just realized cache lines as ideal for storing chess boards.
 
user1804599
chess lines
 
@StackedCrooked You can store an entire checkers board in one 64-bit word.
 
wow
checkers is super cache-friendly
 
donuts turned out alright
yay
 
@StackedCrooked Odd point: I once read a book specifically about writing computer chess games. It was by the authors of Chess Master, IIRC. Funny part was, nearly none of the book was about evaluating chess board positions or anything like that. It was all extremely low-level optimization hacks to evaluate more moves in less time in the minuscule memory and slow processors of the time.
@AlexM. Coin-rats.
 
10:10 PM
wut?
 
@JerryCoffin interesting
 
@JerryCoffin Actually you can even store it in a 16 bit word
Ah, no
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked it's a bunch of Booleans :v
 
user1804599
It's also a horribly boring game.
 
user1804599
I also wonder what kind of checkers you are implementing if you need to care about CPU cache.
 
10:17 PM
maybe I should have bought buttermilk instead of yogurt after all
the dough could have been... softer
the taste is great though
onto the next recipe
 
@rightfold a really good one!
@AlexM. Nah, yoghurt is best.
 
it didn't help the dough to be anything in the way of soft, buttermilk is a bit more liquid
then again, the recipe said yogurt can be used too
or anything similar as long as it's sour
sample result
if the dough was a bit softer, the donuts would have grown bigger while in oil
since they remained small-ish, it was hard not to "fry" their whole surface
 
Xeo
@AlexM. looks like Berliner
 
sorta, yes
nope, it's not
just checked
it does look like berliners tho
berliners seem to be more akin to bread than what I did, looking at their insides
the insides of what I made look like this
 
Xeo
it got marmelade inside, most of the time
 
10:28 PM
well, would have looked, if I had made a proper dough
sounds like something that goes well with coffee
 
is it acceptable that I delete my erratic traces here ? If there's a delete button ?
there seems to be a delete button.
 
you can't delete your history, no
 
Xeo
you can only delete messages at most 2 minutes old
 
your history will always stay here
and you will always be judged for it
 
10:33 PM
so be it
 
that guy who gave you the stare at the supermarket yesterday?
he knows about your erratic traces in the lounge.
everyone knows
 
i don't like supermarket, i don't go there often, above all yesterday
but I know everyone knows
we are just to attarded to tell it loud !
 
@Xeo There's a way. But only for room owners.
 
Xeo
Sure. But no.
 
so I could ask a room owner to delete some message from me ?
 
Xeo
10:36 PM
> But no.
I just said it.
We're not your maids, cleaning up after you.
 
I'm a maid.
but certainly not yours
 
@copy No--you use all 64 bits. In fact, it takes some trickiness to fit it all in 64 bits, because you have 32 squares that can be occupied, and each can have any of 5 states (empty, red, black, red-king, black-king). But, the number of pieces is enough smaller to squeeze it all in if you're careful.
 
It's 16 squares, isn't it?
 
@copy 32. Board is 8x8 (64) and you use half of those.
 
10:39 PM
Oh, right
 
@JerryCoffin computer chess is still dominated by low level C hackers
 
@TemplateRex At that time it wasn't low level C. It was all assembly language.
 
@StephaneRolland what's so bad about your history anyway
 
@StephaneRolland You could ask. Just don't be surprised if the response was to post your question (complete with links to the messages you found most embarrassing) as widely as possible.
 
10:56 PM
@AlexM. The Lounge leaves DNA traces? Shit...
I need some digital bleach.
 
I'm curious. I'm celebrating a 50 year old soon. Is it likely that a 3'1/2' disc would still be readable? After some 25 years?
 
I don't remember well, but 2 or 3 times, I have been here on this chat speaking while I was under at least half or a full bottle of strong alcool. And it's a shame for me.
 
@StackedCrooked "I implemented RBtrees" good for you, - but why?
 
@CaptainGiraffe Fairly likely, yes (I recently had to read some data off a 5.25" that was older than any but the very oldest 3.5" floppies).
 
11:06 PM
@CaptainGiraffe It's about immutible datastructures.
 
Runes of perplexity still broken
 
@JerryCoffin Good news. Now I have to try it =)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Yes, if you can find a driver and drive that is still available.
 
@MartinJames The drive is not a problem. I have the hardware.
 
@MartinJames Pretty easy to find USB floppy drives that are compatible with nearly everything.
@CaptainGiraffe Yup--depends on all sorts of things, of course--most obviously quality of the disk, and conditions under which it was stored.
 
11:09 PM
I've also found an AtariST emulator. I'm hoping to be able to replay a Demo we wrote when I was 15. 27 years ago.
@JerryCoffin Unfortunately nowhere near DOD specs.
 
@StackedCrooked That talk was really lots of fun. ;d
 
@JerryCoffin I don't see how. Doesn't each square have three states- red, black, and empty?
 
wait
 
@Puppy Actually, each has five states: empty, red, black, red-king, black-king.
But, there are only 32 squares you care about, and only (if memory serves) 24 pieces total.
 
Don't you guys have something on the right side of your own messages?
 
11:16 PM
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I was thinking about the kings, but I don't really remember the rules of checkers that well.
 
Ell
I'm in Switzerland
 
And if you click it something like "<number that increases every time> - Lounge | <message>" appearing?
 
@JerryCoffin Well, sure. I assumed that the disks were in a box in a drawer or similar, not mouldering on a garage shelf:)
 
youtube.com/watch?v=HrhsBYhfgEo Transferred to 1 bit video. 4 bit sound, fits in well under a meg.
 
Vlad fail:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26069083/flip-the-bits-in-c
 
11:18 PM
@CaptainGiraffe Jimi with only 4-bit sound? Cretin!
 
@JerryCoffin We were mighty proud.
 
Oh... Puppy has been released from his captivity!
 
I agree with your complaint though =)
 
wat dis
 
The manacles of employment have melted away.
 
11:24 PM
for now
back on next week
 
oh wow
puppy
welcome back
you fucker
 
WOOF WOOF motherfuckers..
 
welp goodnight
I'm off to beddy-boos as my father calls it for no apparent reason
3
 
@Puppy G'night.
 
Nite!
 

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