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2:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes then it's a serious lulz
 
ok, the library I maintain at work is officially the first to feature unit tests
feels good
now I have to extend the tests to everything that was previously not tested
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes '23 teams of detectives have voluteered to work on the case'.
 
fixed :A
 
@Mgetz You mean like chrono::high_resolution_clock?
Oh wait, MSVC.
 
2:04 PM
boost::chrono!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes precisely, it will allegedly be fixed in the next release
 
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@Mgetz Confirmed fixed, at least from my smoekscreen testing with the compiler while I've been at MS.
 
user3010322
Yet to compile Nonius.
 
will the release ideology be fixed next release?
 
@ThePhD I'll believe it when it ships
 
2:05 PM
@AlexM. Spoilsport!
 
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@Rapptz No.
 
user3010322
I took a look at the codebase.
 
@AlexM. that's fucking horrifying
 
user3010322
@R.M was right. They'd never go open with that: it's got code older than I am, and not particularly well engineered.
 
user3010322
It worked well at the time but it's age shows really hard.
 
2:06 PM
@ThePhD the source of the CRT is shipped with every release...
you can't compile it... but it is there
 
user3010322
I'm talking about the whole compiler.
 
@ThePhD ah yeah... they don't want to embarrass themselves. I'd be curious to know how much of clang has found its way into the next version of cl
 
user3010322
None of it has.
 
user3010322
The Office team uses Clang to compile for Mac. They have a fun time going towards VC++ sometimes.
 
Haha you think you can just pull code out of clang and put it in something else
 
user3010322
2:08 PM
^ This too.
 
Clang isn't very good either
And MSVC is 30 years of shit piled up
 
This new rush for conformance has only made the pile bigger.
 
user3010322
As @JerryCoffin said, it's not a matter of g++ or clang++ actually being truly good. It's just that they're now shooting themselves in the foot less than VC++ is.
 
It's so stupid.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Pretty much.
 
user3010322
2:09 PM
There is an effort to rewrite, but.
 
time, people, and money
 
user3010322
Because VS is releasing at a faster cadence, rewrites are hard since Not Enough Team Members
 
user3010322
So more people are bolted on to ensuring the compiler hits the next VS release, rather than actually doing a full port.
 
I think they should say fuck you to C++14 and C++17 and whatnot and get things working first. But then they could not push out a new paid release every year.
 
Didn't stop them with 2005, 2008 and 2010 :v
 
user3010322
2005, 2008 and 2010 still behaved nicely with C++03.
 
Two-phase lookup was always broken
 
user3010322
@PolymorphicPotato Wait... what.
 
@PolymorphicPotato she should have her ovaries ripped out
 
> "It was so gross," she explained. "We were like blegh."
 
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2:12 PM
"We were like blegh."
 
user3010322
WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF RESPONSE IS THAT
 
Journalism
 
user3010322
Is that a joke article?
 
No, it's Gawker
 
...kay...this is beyond my ability to handle. Tapeworms are one thing that does scare me a lot.
 
2:13 PM
Better question is
Why can you buy tapeworm eggs
 
user3010322
It's an (incredibly dumb) common practice for slimming down.
 
MessageBird y u no Python client library.
 
apparently for this exact reason
 
user3010322
Also arcane treatment methods.
 
user3010322
But tape worms just... eat flesh.
 
2:14 PM
god people are fucking stupid back to drinking scotch
 
user3010322
They don't feast on like, the food in your stomach or something.
 
user3010322
They'll actually fucking eat your flesh.
 
Ell
Why are people so stupid
 
user3010322
Why would anyone think that's a good idea.
 
@ThePhD because they're borderline retarded
 
2:15 PM
Tapeworms do not eat flesh, AFAIK. They absorb the nutrients by their skin out of the environment, don't they?
There are other kinds of worms that you can have in your muscles that do eat them.
But AFAIK not tapeworms.
I leave you to ponder that, I am going cookie hunting.
 
all these minor UX changes on github are terrible
 
@Rapptz what? The directory jumping feature is like the best thing ever
 
github is terrible without any changes. stash is much better
 
@bamboon that's the only good thing so far
 
I used an else clause on a try/except statement. Do I go to hell now?
 
2:18 PM
No
 
I'm talking about changing the notification icon (which removed the difference in colour depending on the repository), removing the ability to change from searching 'this repository' or 'all repositories', etc.
 
Trichinosis or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork or wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm. There are eight Trichinella species; five are encapsulated and three are not. Only three Trichinella species are known to cause trichinosis: T. spiralis, T. nativa, and T. britovi. Between 2002 and 2007, 11 cases were reported to CDC each year on average in the United States; these were mostly the result of eating undercooked game, bear meat, or home-reared pigs. It is common in developing...
 
also I just realised they changed the search colour from yellow to blue. Looks okay.
 
user3010322
I hated Tapeworms ever since I saw them eat a bird inside-out.
 
@Abyx free vs paid.
 
user3010322
2:20 PM
The bird was twitching, twitching, twitching, and then ti gave one last spasm as another tapeworm chewed through its breast.
 
That probably wasn't a tapeworm
 
Ugh, why did I come back to this?
 
user3010322
tapeworms* there were like 5.
 
user3010322
Either that, or that was one LONG mother fucker.
 
user3010322
But there were multiple ends sticking out, wiggling.
 
2:21 PM
Quick, someone make fun of MSVC!
 
user3010322
Blah Blah Variadics blah blah broken blah blah ICE Bath Challenge VC++.
 
MSVC is no fun. it's very sad.
 
@Xarn MSVC should be eaten by tapeworms
 
@ThePhD Tapeworms live in the digestive tract.
 
user3010322
Welp, probably not tapeworms then.
 
2:24 PM
@ThePhD Are you sure those weren't just maggots?
 
user3010322
Maggots of what, though, grow to be that long and thick?
 
Cestoda (Cestoidea) is the name given to a class of parasitic flatworms, of the phylum Platyhelminthes. Biologists informally refer to them as Cestodes. The best-known species are commonly called tapeworms. Cestodes are all parasitic and their life histories vary, but typically they live in the digestive tracts of vertebrates as adults, and often in the bodies of other species of animals as juveniles. Over a thousand species have been described, and all vertebrate species may be parasitised by at least one species of tapeworm. Humans are subject to parasitism by several species of tapeworms if...
 
digestive system of a bird is around its neck
 
for pigeons anyway
 
2:25 PM
That's the gizzard.
 
ITT birds = pigeons
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I suppose.
I'm probably remembering wrong.
 
I've seen the insides of pigeons. They have intestines like pretty much all other birds, and not in the neck.
 
Is it me or is this industry just designed to be torment?
 
Tapeworms prefer the intestines because of length. (And nutrients too, I guess)
 
2:27 PM
why are we talking about tapeworms?
 
user3010322
Because rightfold linked an article about someone purchasing tapeworm eggs and feeding them to their daughter to slim them down for a pageant.
 
oh gawd
 
Last time I dissected a pigeon was like 9 years ago.
so iunno
 
Fuckers must've evolved fast
 
So I'm an intern at an engineering company and at least 3 times a week one of the full-timers commits code that doesn't even work/segfaults on load. Is this normal procedure? Lol.
 
2:30 PM
Welcome to software
 
Set up CI and a stable branch and it's not a problem
Commit early commit often
 
user3010322
Gated Builds.
 
@Crazy Sounds fine to me as long as it's not on the stable branch.
 
It is.
We only have one branch.
 
user3010322
Flee.
 
user3010322
2:31 PM
Flee for your life.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes shit
 
Do you at least use tags?
 
@ThePhD he's back?
 
though iunno why you guys would only use one branch
anyway I have to go
 
user3010322
@thecoshman @rightfold is @PolymorphicPotato
 
2:32 PM
@Rapptz not every source control has them
@ThePhD oh yeah
 
If your VCS can't branch then it's shit and needs to be replaced
 
@thecoshman a quick search for svn tag and hg tag leads to positive results.
 
So glad that so far I only had to deal with people who used SC properly.
 
Beh, svn does tags the same way it does branches, it's just a directory in the repo
 
I think that covers most of the popular VCS?
 
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2:33 PM
ClearCase. :3c
 
never used svn
 
@Rapptz those are not the only source controls
 
@Rapptz Lotsa people use some of the proprietary ones.
 
Anyway, Ill try to derail you guys for a bit... has anyone used the new Thinkpads and liked them? I am in market for new notebook and the new ones just seem shitty.
 
They're all crap.
 
user3010322
2:33 PM
Visual Source Safe. :3c
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks man. I'm well aware.
 
one version, never have branching issue </troll troll troll>
 
user3010322
Perforce is supposed to be good.
 
user3010322
But I didn't have a great time with it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, it reminded me of Perforce.
 
2:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and expensive
 
Perforce has tags too apparently
 
and grab you by the balls it seems
 
user3010322
TFS rolls a whole lot more than Source Control. But I hate how it forces you, after you pull everything, to explicitly check out files for editing.
 
perforce & SVN are similar but they both claim to be superior than the other
 
Ell
this site looks so dodgy legalpartypills.co.uk/xtz.html
 
2:34 PM
clearcase has 'labels'... which are basically the same... but strictly speaking, not tags.
 
Ell
and all these ingredients look like they wouldn't do anything at all
 
@ThePhD avoid clearcase then
 
user3010322
The interface is also neck-breakingly dumb and doesn't understand when I add or remove files from the project, so I have to manually add them.
 
@Ell No really???
 
We are using TFS (microsofts built in Visual Studio source control). I'm sure there's a way to branch, but I don't expect anyone here to know how. I spent 20 minutes explaining why the program was crashing because swap+ram was completely full. They didn't even know what swapfile was.
 
2:35 PM
@Ell Are you okay man?
 
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@Crazy TFS has branching. I branch all the time.
 
Ell
@Rapptz I was just reading an article on spice :P
and k2 or whatever it's called
 
@Ell I'm pretty sure I'm on a list of some kind after clicking on that
 
user3010322
Visual Studio is nice in that it actually has burndowns and time estimations and other things you can do to visualize your workload when you create tasks.
 
@Yuushi ¬_¬
 
user3010322
2:36 PM
It's actually pretty nice.
 
user3010322
But it's going the all-in-one route, I suppose.
 
@thecoshman Who am I kidding, I was probably already on the list anyway
 
@Ell alcohol now drugs ...
 
Either way, the branching is irrelevant because I'm the intern and am mostly responsible for testing the new code, so I got to be pulling from the main (only) branch all the time. The problem is he breaks the other 3 developers builds and everyone spends 1-2 hours just fixing his code. Lol.
 
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@Crazy Has nobody had a frank discussion with him?
 
2:37 PM
You should change your avatar Yuushi.
 
huh, I thought that was a new Cicada
 
It looks similar to this avatar when tiny
:p
 
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I've been confusing that n-something guy recently for melak47. :c
 
@Rapptz ...I'm not seeing the similarity here. And I've been drinking.
 
The other developer has tried to make him have me test out my build, but the problem dev just doesn't respond to the emails. Lol. It's a pretty laid back/slow paced environment, but I mean, come on!
 
2:38 PM
they look similar when it's smaller
 
@Crazy as an intern, you have to little to risk in whistle blowing :P
 
I'd change it to an anime avatar, but that seems slightly...over-represented in here
 
@Crazy Shoot him, everybody will understand it.
 
I'm mainly kidding.
 
I know :P
 
2:39 PM
@Yuushi who's got an anime character avatar?
 
@thecoshman Rapptz, StackedCrooked, Alex. M, ThePhD (probably), probably others I'm forgetting
oh yeah, Mystical
 
Yeah, I just go and tell the dev I report to (Dev) broke the build, again, then we spend the hour or two fixing his shit. The other thing is we are working on a machine where we control the hardware, yet the problem dev refuses to test his commits on an actual machine because he wants to work in the office part of the company and not in the garage where the machines he develops for are. Basically, its just bad management, but I have no one to rant to and this is cathartic.
 
mine's a drawing
 
looks like Kenshin
 
2:41 PM
If only.
It's an ancient drawing I did on Naruto.
I don't know why I still use it.
 
huh, I always thought it was Kenshin
 
FWIW I like Kenshin a lot more than Naruto.
 
@Yuushi those aren't anime
 
@Rapptz if you asked me who the character in your avatar was, I'd have said "it's Rapptz" lol
 
lol
that's how I look at it now a days
 
2:43 PM
@CatPlusPlus What the actual fuck.
 
I like how inconspicuous that link is on the board
 
@thecoshman sure could have fooled me for most of them
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah.
 
I would have to say £160 per person is fairly cheap for a once a life time chance, but it's really gross
 
@CatPlusPlus what link where o_o
 
2:44 PM
@chmod711telkitty Nah, it's just really Japan.
 
@Yuushi Of the ones you listed only ThePhD has one without an anime tie-in.
 
totally innocent...
 
5 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149879/Japanese-man-22-cooks-genitals-s‌​erves-paying-dinner-party-guests.html
 
@Griwes ¬_¬ yes
 
@Rapptz Yeah, his (hers?) was the only one I wasn't sure of
 
2:45 PM
@Yuushi her
 
his
 
Cat++ you are not thinking doing the same thing, are you?
you did say you are asexual once ...
 
his
 
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Q: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::ios_base::failure' what(): basic

user246747I'm approximately new to c++ and I have some problem when I want to read a matrix from a file. here is my matrix in a file: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0344828 0.323538 0.0108884 2.6302 -0.00601043 0.0019921 2.37015 0.0689655 0.315323 0.00207342 3.92065 -0.00923253 0....

approximately new to c++
 
> "/home/mostafa/OpenFOAM/mostafa-2.1.0/run/tutorials/incompressible/pisoFoam/chan‌​nelLES/Balaras/09/postProcessing/mydata/"
 
2:47 PM
@Rapptz @Puppy you both suck
 
jesus
 
mostafa, nice name
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well, at the geological scale, we are all approximately non-existent
 
Meanwhile on Twitch very exciting things happen twitch.tv/fishplaystreetfighter
 
Ell
yeah £160 is a bargain
 
2:49 PM
What in the actual fuck?
 
fileName=769.999+t*10;
 
@CatPlusPlus nope, not caring at all
 
What has to go on in your brain to think that code makes sense?
 
@CatPlusPlus two guys jumping for a whole minute is not what I call exciting
 
Yes that is what we call sarcasm
 
2:50 PM
@Xarn I can't answer for anyone else, but for me, I'm going to go with drugs. Lots of drugs.
 
Translating fish movement to game inputs is original I guess?
 
POE WAS RIGHT
 
@CatPlusPlus ... only just
 
@Jefffrey ...and EOP was left!
 
@thecoshman That's not true.
 
@Puppy ಠ_ಠ I don't give a fuck, I am not writing a fucking paper on that shit
 
the geological record most certainly marks the Holocene
 
@JerryCoffin ... and ԀO⊥ S∀M ƎOԀ
 
@Jefffrey Nicely done.
 
@EtiennedeMartel heh
 
Ell
2:53 PM
What do you call yourself after you've complete pre-university education in the uk? "College Graduate" doesn't sound right at all. But I want to call myself something other than "Person"
(this is for a c.v. btw)
 
@Ell What is "pre-university education"?
 
@EtiennedeMartel domains and servers are way too cheap
 
wait... that means POE was down... but POE WAS ALSO RIGHT!!! DOWN IS RIGHT LEFT IS UP ARGARGARG!!!
 
high school graduate?
 
@Ell You're not anything. You're a "school leaver" at best.
 
Ell
2:54 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sixth Form
 
@Yuushi We don't "graduate" from school.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Didn't think so :P
 
"You're not anything" pretty much sums it up.
you don't get to be a person
 
@Ell yeah, high school leaving scrub
 
Ell
2:54 PM
school leaver sounds better than nothing
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit to be fair, that's the same here (Australia)
 
@Yuushi (We also don't have "high school")
 
I'd rather be a school button though :S
 
@Yuushi Your system models are pretty closely, I'd bet
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit we don't? o.O
 
2:55 PM
@Ell it's secondary school
 
Ell
Oh yeah we don't.
Nursery -> Primary School -> Secondary School -> College/Sixth Form -> University
but if highschool is anything it's secondary school
 
@Ell Not as a general term? There are some schools actually called e.g. "High School for Girls" in Gloucester, which was always a highly bizarre and stupid name. I'm sure it's historical, from before "high school" became popular as a generic term, rather than the other way around.
@Ell right
 
What age do you go to Sixth form?
 
high school and secondary school are pretty much synonymous here
 
@Crazy 16 or 17
there; you can all stop trying to find an integer division joke in that now
 
2:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's always True
 
Is sixth form short, like 1-2 years?
 
@Crazy Two years, yes.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ¬_¬ you actually come from that area?
 
Ell
@Crazy yeah 2 years usually
 
2:58 PM
@thecoshman Grew up in Gloucester, yeah
 
I'm sorry for what is going to happen in few minutes. I just can't resist.
 
Ell
but some people stay an extra year if they fail the first year
 
From relative poverty to raking in tens of thousands of dollars in donation revenue every month!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit explains a lot :P
 
Ell
@thecoshman what does it explain?
 
2:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes tl;dr
 
@Ell why he's so scummy :P
 
@thecoshman meh
 
Ell
@thecoshman lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, come on. It's not that long.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit donation or prostitution?
 
2:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm inclined to agree, tl;dr
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes hah
 
Opened article, expected Moby Dick first line, saw first line, closed article.
 
@Crazy ARE YOU CRAZY????
 
Only as much as Jeffery Dahmer...
 
3:02 PM
@Crazy hahaha, lol.
@Crazy Did you notice Moby Dick's second line?
 
I went back and noticed, haha.
I didn't realize it was a Moby Dick fanfic.
 
That makes me even more sure of my decision.
 
Robor, sry to break your heart, but as you age, you become more and more like Tony the Lion ... :'(
 
Wait, isn't hahaha ⊂ lol?
 
3:06 PM
hahaha ⊂ rofl
 
I think it varies on the number of ha's.
 
@Crazy It's not a fanfic.
 
> a Moby Dick fanfic
lolwut
/me goes onto imgur to find Moby Dick cosplay
 
I think my confusion adds to the need for a tl;dr. :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nothing like dressing up like a wale cock
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Famous last search terms.
 
oh oh oh, who watches listens to Welcome to Night Vale?
 
@chmod711telkitty oh look, fat... again
 
@Jefffrey ಠ_ಠ
 
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Q: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::ios_base::failure' what(): basic

user246747I'm approximately new to c++ and I have some problem when I want to read a matrix from a file. here is my matrix in a file: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0344828 0.323538 0.0108884 2.6302 -0.00601043 0.0019921 2.37015 0.0689655 0.315323 0.00207342 3.92065 -0.00923253 0....

Have to post this again, because now OP replied to given answer in an answer.
...
 
3:12 PM
> thanks for the reply

I think the poop is somewhere in: (...)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes quite
 
@Jefffrey what about it ☉_☉
 
lmao, that reply
 
The comments are still best.
 
The code is all poop
 
3:14 PM
instead of spaghetti code we can call it ... <insert your imagination here>
 
⨳
 
Ahaha Minecraft community is so ridiculously shitty
 
oh gosh I am on the wrong side of the internet again, I am amazed at the kind of questions asked on yahoo answers ...
Oh Cat, life must be sh!tty & crappy for you
 
Ell
Which of the windows users here have anti virus/malware software running?
 
I certainly don't.
it's much easier and vastly more effective to simply reinstall Windows if you actually get infected, and antivirus is practically worse than actual malware.
 
user3010322
You can pay your way out of a trial in Germany?
 
> Under German law, the billionaire was able to "buy" the termination of the trial, lthough he was declared neither innocent nor guilty.
 
user3010322
That's.... uh.
 
So you can bribe your way out of a bribery trial. Good job, Germany.
 
user3010322
Well, if I do something wrong and I'm rich I know I'll do it in Germany now. :D
 
3:33 PM
it's not a bribe if it's legitimate, kinda by definition.
although I agree that it's a bit shitty in this case considering that he paid that instead of going to jail for ten years.
 
legitimate bribe
 
@Ell I have Kaspersky PURE. I cannot deliver software built on a box without AV running 'cos due diligence.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's a settlement.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Surprised you just went along with BBC's terrible reporting.
 
hmm
I wonder if I can get away with having . on it's own as an expression.
 
Ell
what would it do? o.O
 
3:35 PM
Magic
Alternatively: it would reroll all the identifiers
 
@Ell Kinda like ::, so a global module reference.
.x.y.z -> ::x::y::z.
 
> Judge Noll ruled that $99m would go to the Bavarian state coffers while $1m would be donated to a children's hospital.
Not anything like a settlement is here.
In this instance he paid the court, effectively, to end the trial despite the charges.
A settlement is an agreement between defendant and prosecution to drop charges.
 
Er, yeah, keep on talking.
 
I'm very bribeable bribe me
I accept Steam games
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The state was the prosecutor.
 
3:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus cleveland steamer?
 
nvm don't answer that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The state != the court
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes, and as you quoted the money went, mostly, to the Bavarian state.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't have any problem with where the money went
 
How is it paying the court, then?
 
3:41 PM
He paid the court and the court gave the money to the state.
The point is that the deal was made by the judge, not the prosecutor.
 
Yeah, go on saying bullshit.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The point is that that is not true.
 
I've seen nothing to suggest it's not true, and I've quoted passages that imply it is.
 
> Prosecutors said Mr Ecclestone's advanced age and other mitigating circumstances gave grounds to accept the $100m offer.
 
They accepted it, yes.
 
You can also check news reports from before, when they were negotiating.
 
3:43 PM
You seem to be auto-translating words inside your head
Unlike you to miss the crucial subtleties in something like this :/
 
The BBC is just reporting it in a way that makes Bernie looks as terrible as possible.
(Gosh, don't make me defend that asshole's image)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Quite understandable if you ask me.
 
@Puppy Oh, I agree that it is a really disgusting deal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At the absolute minimum, he should have lost his stake in F1 and the money on top of any extra money he made from that stake during the period in question.
 
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Q: mild linux/gcc extensions for C? (e.g., forward scanning, opt args)

ivo WelchI would like to write a project in C on linux. The simplicity and universality of binding to C from other computer programming languages makes it a preferential choice over other computer languagues, such as C++, Obj-C, D, C#, etc. Unfortunately, some of C's limitations drive me batty. (IDEs d...

lol.
 

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