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8:03 PM
I don't know what to think of this.
 
@DemCodeLines Ask Google if they have the logs ;)
 
@FredOverflow s/Google/NSA/
 
@Fred I'm reading the debate in Java and feel nervous like when watching sports :)
 
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Java :(
 
I wonder if rightfold's nightmares usually include mutable state
 
8:13 PM
hola
 
like, he takes a shower, all cool then all of a sudden he makes out the silhouette of a setter on the shower's drape
4
 
"NO! PLEASE MAKE A (modified) COPY!"
 
@JohanLarsson The "breaking clients" discussion? That went nowhere.
The setter is a type of gundog used most often for hunting game such as quail, pheasant, and grouse. In the UK, the four setter breeds together with the pointer usually form a sub group within the gundog group as they share a common function. However, the setter breeds each have subtle differences in head, bone and substance. The American and Canadian Kennel Clubs classify these breeds within the sporting group. Setters from show lines are usually considered to be heavier and larger than those from 'working' lines. == Function == A setter silently searches for game by scent; hunting is do...
 
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The worst dogs.
 
@FredOverflow the whole thing
 
8:20 PM
@JohanLarsson Which team are you vouching for? ;)
 
Not the home team :)
@rightføld My setter getting a thing, his name is Beast II.
 
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lol
 
Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501 (QZ8501/AWQ8501) is an Indonesia AirAsia Airbus A320-216 flight that went missing en route to Singapore from Surabaya, Indonesia on 28 December 2014 with 155 passengers and 7 crew on board. Indonesia AirAsia is an affiliate of Malaysian low-cost airline AirAsia. The incident is the third in 2014 involving a Malaysian airline or its affiliate(s), after the loss of Malaysia Airlines Flights 370 and 17 earlier in the year. == Disappearance == The flight took off from Juanda International Airport, Surabaya, at 05:35 Western Indonesian Time (WIB, UTC+7) and was scheduled...
...again?
 
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@FredOverflow I just found this:
 
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<stew> ! scala.reflect.runtime.universe.reify(List(1,2,3) map (_+1))
<multibot_> reflect.runtime.universe.Expr[List[Int]] = Expr[List[Int]](List.apply(1, 2, 3).map(((x$1) => x$1.$plus(1)))(List.canBuildFrom))
<stew> ^^ there I can see the canBuildFrom which is passed implicityy
 
8:29 PM
@FredOverflow Saw it on reddit.
Hopefully all is okay. But we all know it never turns out okay.
 
evening all
 
Hi all
 
Goooooddddd eeeevvveennninnngggg @Puppy
 
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> As with all Konami games, a Moai statue can be seen somewhere in the game.
 
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lolwat
 
OOOH, shiny
cells with interactable objects on them are red
 
Don't know if you guys would have any idea, but I thought I'd ask in the chat anyway before I'm downvoted on SO.
 
Uh oh.
 
@cybermonkey ask away, but remember!
we'd downvote you here too, if we could.
 
we will only help you if your question is sufficiently interesting
 
8:35 PM
Puppy being civil? What on earth?
 
I have a C++ console program that has some weird header-bar, but I have no idea if it actually has a name (see puu.sh/dMRcE/c4ad9f3090.png, the grey bar in the console area).
it's obviously a header describing the app, but a Google search doesn't reveal any results.
ah, answer seems to be here: stackoverflow.com/questions/18101196/…. Didn't word my search correctly.
 
@AlexM. C#?
 
yes
 
Does it do collision detection?
 
Unity's physics engine takes care of that
 
8:40 PM
const is way more effort than it's worth in C++.
 
the only place where it does that now is to make objects fall down and sit there
 
I have some ideas for making it somewhat less painful in Wide.
 
lol it's not really C#.
Well I mean it is.
 
I'll probably ditch the whole physics engine
 
But it's not like programming in C# much.
 
8:40 PM
@AlexM. Nice, I must try Unity some time.
 
i.e. ditch the rigid bodies
 
Speaking of physics engines, can anyone reccommend a library?
 
Just using C# as a scripting language.
 
because I don't need them in this grid based environment
 
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@Nooble Boost
 
8:41 PM
@Nooble No.
 
@Rapptz it's still C# in the usual CLR/CLI/whatever
 
Sure.
 
no way to interact with the unity guy from C#?
 
you mean the bits written in C++?
 
?
 
8:42 PM
I think the lowest level you can reach in C# is...
calling OpenGL methods directly
you can do that
immediate mode or w/e it's called
 
@AlexM. Eww Immediate mode.
That's gotta be taxing on your CPU.
 
is immediate mode like fixed-function pipeline in D3D?
 
Yup.
 
> Low-level graphics library.

Use this class to manipulate active transformation matrices, issue rendering commands similar to OpenGL's immediate mode and do other low-level graphics tasks. Note that in almost all cases using Graphics.DrawMesh is more efficient than using immediate mode drawing.
 
@Nooble 2D or 3D?
 
8:44 PM
blech
that shit is terrrrrribad.
 
@Rapptz 3D
 
GL.Begin( GL.LINES );
GL.Color( Color(1,1,1,0.5) );
GL.Vertex3( 0, 0, 0 );
GL.Vertex3( 1, 0, 0 );
GL.Vertex3( 0, 1, 0 );
essentially this
 
You're shit out of luck buddy.
Could try Havok or PhysX.
 
Unity uses PhysX
 
@AlexM. My eyes are burning from the horror! Get the holy water!
 
8:45 PM
@AlexM. Why the stupid spaces?
 
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> He created an atomic bomb when he was only ten.
 
@AlexM. I have a bunch of 3D objects that I would like to check if they collide at different positions.
 
@Griwes dunno, took it from unity's docs
 
Bullet Physics looks like a good one.
 
would be nice to send stls & transforms to something and get back a bool indicating collision
 
8:48 PM
@AlexM. It's fixed function. Deprecated and no one seems to like it.
 
for good reason.
that shit is terrible.
it's super super terrible.
it's malloc/free terrible.
it's null-terminated-strings terrible.
it's mutable global state terrible.
it's fucking awful is what I'm saying.
 
@AlexM. Where is glEnd?
 
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In the finalizer.
 
like I said, it's malloc/free terrible. s/glEnd/free/.
 
@JohanLarsson unity has a nice unit testing library where you can set up scenes with specific things like making stuff collide at points and see if they do
 
8:51 PM
@rightføld That's not how those functions work lol
 
but it takes some time getting used to it
 
@AlexM. Does Unity use ancient OpenGL or something?
 
I don't know
it's possible
it has to target the PS3 and X360
 
Probably does.
 
as well as the PS4 and Xbone
as well as mobiles
as well as web
 
8:52 PM
@AlexM. ok maybe I'll harass you more about this some time :)
 
it also targets Wii
 
It should use abstraction layers then.
 
some people are mad about unity's tools for teams
 
This is the kind of OpenGL minecraft uses, which is why it's usually taxing on CPU's.
 
saying that unity doesn't work that well for big teams, and the main issue is that unity's devs don't really make games
vs. cryengine or unreal engine which are developed in parallel with games
so the engine devs know how game development goes
but I dunno
 
8:54 PM
I tried UE4 a while back.
 
Unity is so flexible though. Kind of it's selling point.
 
Was cool.
 
for myself it works well
thank god I don't have to diff my work with a team mate's
 
Don't have a definite preference yet.
 
the shit is full of binary files for everything
including prefabs
 
8:56 PM
@Rapptz Don't you have to pay?
 
I got it for free
It's $20 usually though.
 
One for the price of none. How'd you do it?
 

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