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2:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Stress is not the only cause of panick attacks.
Bad thoughts are.
 
I don't even.
 
I'm not depressed, I just get random panic attacks
 
I'm sure you don't.
 
btw I've started watching The Sopranos
 
How is it?
inb4 terrible
 
2:01 PM
Also another Buffy rewatch because I HAVE TOO MUCH FREE TIME APPARENTLY HAHA (fuck programming)
 
@Jefffrey You just said "bad thoughts"
 
It's p good
 
They're not random. They're connected with thinking about death
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And?
 
HBO shows tend to be good
 
2:01 PM
They sure do.
 
user784668
Are WD red series decent HDDs?
 
Some netflix stuff too apparently.
Like orange is the new black.
GO WATCH THAT
 
P sure any panic attacks are something you should go see a doctor about
 
Perhaps my parents were too caring and transmitted to my subconscious the idea that my life is extremely important, which is why I'm concerned about my death
 
@Jefffrey Well, for one, you're essentially begging the question.
But "bad thoughts" is just a funny expression.
 
Funny thing is that, at least for me, panic attacks only started occurring when I began to do what I wanted.
 
I invented depression
And also the word 'fuck'
 
Like, if you put me at work or in a context where I have to do stuff or in a context where I get to complain about stuff, I don't get it.
Also enemies.
 
Can a doctor fix the problem of me being afraid of death without fucking my brain with medicines?
 
@Mysticial 30th March... did he hit "Submit This Question" a little early?
 
2:04 PM
Enemies are a great anti-depressant for me.
 
@AndyProwl What's the point of going to the doctor if not for magical drugs
 
Hate driven development.
 
seriously though, if depression is a problem, why is not over happiness?
 
@JohanLarsson That's just development
 
Basically anything that doesn't make me feel apathetic.
 
2:05 PM
:)
 
how the fuck do you spell that
 
Apathetic
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't want magical drugs with sucky side-effects though
 
Which you can't spell without pathetic HAHA
 
lol
 
2:06 PM
@Jefffrey did you have alcohol in the past 12 hours?
 
I want to be able to be sad when something sad happens to me. I just don't want to be able to be sad about the fact that something sad will happen to me
 
@chmod711telkitty 1 months and 1-2 weeks that I'm sober
 
@AndyProwl Drugs are like I/O, side effects are the point!
3
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Does that library implement promisesaplus.com?
 
2:06 PM
I really want that 3 months medal
 
@CatPlusPlus But then alcohol should be enough
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Can't spell slaughter without laughter!
 
Too bad I can't consume it
 
I wish people wouldn't spit "ha ha funny april fools" all over April Fools' posts, ruining them entirely
 
Or rather I can, but then it gets worse
 
2:07 PM
Alcohol is one of the crappiest drugs.
 
@Xeo freak!
 
Fuck April Fools nonsense
 
@JohanLarsson If you use it as a long-term cure, indeed it is. But sometimes it does the job.
 
@chmod711telkitty But seriously, I had few not perfect liver values, so I have to stay sober for 4 months and then retake the tests to see if it's alcohol related.
Probably is.
 
Who needs liver anyway
Apart from black market dudes
 
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2:09 PM
> “thenable” is an object or function that defines a then method.
> If `x` is a thenable, it attempts to make promise adopt the state of `x`, under the assumption that `x` behaves at least somewhat like a promise. Otherwise, it fulfills promise with the value `x`.
 
user1804599
lol
 
You can't spell "liver" without "live"
 
user1804599
Implicit conversions with duck typing is the best thing ever!
 
@Jefffrey no wonder you are depressed - you are suffering from alcohol withdrawal!
 
Ok that means nothing
 
2:09 PM
@chmod711telkitty what no
lol
 
@AndyProwl Most people are anxious when they know negative things will happen to them or their loved ones.
 
I wasn't an alcoholic.
 
user1804599
#yolo
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I'm one of them
 
I'm sad about things that won't happen to me
 
2:10 PM
@AndyProwl By most people I mean everyone.
 
And I actually got kinda bored about drinking before even starting this 4-months journey.
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes question is how do you know? Crystal ball? How often is it accurate?
 
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There are exceptions.
 
Fact: 100% of people die
 
user1804599
2:11 PM
@CatPlusPlus How do you know?
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not a fact.
 
Elvis?
 
@CatPlusPlus I think you're in control of those things, if I understand what you are talking about. There's nothing I can do about not dying though
 
user1804599
Appears to have happened in the past. Doesn't mean it happened in the past or still happens.
 
Invent immortality
Estimate is 3 weeks
Chop chop
 
2:11 PM
@AndyProwl That's also why I don't mind it.
 
You are god. You are already immortal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh, I wish I didn't
 
If it's inevitable, whatever it is, I don't worry.
 
You invented this reality to escape the boringness of being alone in the universe.
 
I do. The fact that it's inevitable is exactly what I mind
 
If I were a god, you'd know
 
I'm your subconscious. Of course I know.
 
Deadlines are inevitable
 
@CatPlusPlus Speak for yourself.
 
I'm telling you, but, as always, you are not listening.
 
2:13 PM
The first time I missed an exam for not waking up, I woke up and "oh well, it's fucked already; let's go eat".
 
I'm not people I'm cats
 
@Jefffrey We're all the same person remember
 
Exactly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Should that make me feel better about dying :D
 
It's a huge journey towards getting to know who you really are.
 
2:14 PM
If I can still fix it, though, I'll go crazy.
 
"Well, I can't get any deader; let's go eat"
Why do I crave cranial tissue
 
@AndyProwl You won't even get to say "oh well, it fucked", so it's even less worrisome!
 
I am my body
 
Remove it v0v
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Ping Reed about it when he comes online. Probably not many people on this planet with better input on that subject.
 
2:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unless you jump from a plane without chute and you have ~5 minutes to think about it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I will slowly realize that through gradual degradation of my body
 
@Jefffrey Never tried, but I've mentioned before that I'd like to just enjoy the fall.
 
Or you die slowly of some painful death.
 
Hello ground!
 
For hours.
 
2:16 PM
I wouldn't enjoy falling without a parachute
In fact I think I wouldn't enjoy it with a parachute either
 
@AndyProwl I won't try to do it, but once it's done, why not?
 
Me neither
There would probably be no connection to chat
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because there's nothing to look forward to. For me, looking forward is key to being happy
 
ITT nerds don't like fast-intense emotions.
more at 11
yes, you are nerds
 
Also you can take control over your death and go out the way you want to
 
2:17 PM
@Jefffrey FWIW, people do stuff like that: get diagnosed with terminal illnesses, enjoy the last days, weeks, months, whatever of their lives instead of wasting them away crying over spoiled milk.
 
You're also nerds
 
Freedom is an illusion.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It would probably drive me crazy, I admit
I need a different brain
 
You'll always make the same choices in the same circumstances, so you are the one that lays down your destiny.
It's all already written, by you.
 
Top Gear Patagonia special part II tonight
 
2:19 PM
Life is not for me unless I change brain
 
I'm gonna watch 'em together tho
 
@AndyProwl Get in the line
 
Yesterday I watched Doom the movie
 
"Dm dm doooom"
 
@Andy fwiw, while I can deal fine with inevitability, I have choice anxiety.
 
2:20 PM
I am fine with choice. I have inevitability anxiety.
Which is not easy for someone who believes strongly in predetermination :P
 
lol predetermination
 
Randomness doesn't exist.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I mostly don't have that, unless it's something really important which I could get wrong and would fuck me very hard
 
It's just the new god we bring up when we can't explain things.
 
2:21 PM
@AndyProwl I get it when ordering food at a restaurant.
 
Oh, I don't know what face that die will fall on. It's random!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why?
 
Believing in predetermination or gods or whatever is just a stupid way of trying to escape responsibility for your own damn decisions
 
If you pick the wrong food, you just order another one
 
@CatPlusPlus No, it's a realisation that you don't ever make any damn decisions
 
2:22 PM
it wasn't my fault your honour the mystical ancient sky person made it happen
 
This will become even more evident, when super sofisticated robots will be able to analize the environment and always throw a 6.
 
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@JohanLarsson ?:
 
2:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's not a 'realisation', it's a belief, and it's escapism
 
@rightføld He lives.
 
He wakes
 
The world is a complex machine but I see no evidence at all that our brains are capable of randomly making decisions that are not simply a function of the previous inputs into that machine
You need the concept of some "soul" or mystical personality construct in order to make that work, and I'd be very surprised if you believed in that Cat
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You don't buy quantum mechanics?
 
It's not even wrong
 
2:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes shush
 
That's also why it's so difficult to make random generators in computers.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No you don't
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes you do
 
No you don't
 
2:24 PM
NUH UH
 
user1804599
Get a room you fools.
 
whargbrlg
 
user1804599
Nihilism master race.
 
Nihilism whatever race
 
2:25 PM
@AndyProwl I dunno. It's just scary. I mean, not to the point of getting panic attacks, but if I order something and there are options for what I ordered, when asked "with X?" I'll usually just freak out and randomly blurt out an answer.
 
BOOBS
BOOBS WITH CHIPS
PLEASE
panic panic panic
 
A physicist, friend of mine, told me that someone theorized that there's no randomness, but recently we discovered some ... things that are "truly random".
Or something.
 
Also, at each place, I always order the same thing every time. One dish per restaurant.
 
It's called quantum mechanics
 
Well yes granted the quantum world is fundamentally steeped in randomness
I'd like to say that there is something driving that that we can't see right now
 
2:26 PM
@Jefffrey Recently as in decades ago.
 
The truth is that I've abstracted/ignored it for the purposes of my position so far
Mainly because I haven't seriously revisited said position in quite some time
 
My position is that if any god exists then they have a fucked up sense of humour
 
humour is a human construct, you bigot
 
Fuck em
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, that's what recently means when you are dealing with millenia of human history.
 
2:27 PM
(it isn't)
 
Tell that to hyenas!
You racist
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I tend to be irresolute too when I have too few time to decide, yes. But after all I know that if I make the wrong choice, I can fix it next time. Or I can decide in advance what I feel like having. If it's something under your control that has the potential of making you feel bad, then there are things you can do to prevent it from having that effect. Not so much with what you can't control.
 
@Jefffrey All of science is 'recently' on that scale
 
@CatPlusPlus decades? I'm not so sure.
 
2:28 PM
@CatPlusPlus Or just not give a fuck
 
Hey did you know that recently we've evolved from apes
(In relation to age of life on Earth)
 
That would mean that stuff before 1914 don't matter.
 
What stuff
 
science stuff
if you can say century, then you have to say century and not "decades"
otherwise it's against the rules
 
What
You mean classical mechanics or what
 
2:30 PM
I'm just being silly, don't worry.
 
Jefff followed your advice about drugs
 
Hey did you know that recently Cat started being a wanker
recently in relation to.... nope, nothing
never mind
 
@AndyProwl But with what you can't control you can't even make the wrong choice, so why care?
 
you are terrible
 
2:31 PM
Did you know that I've always been the king
True story
 
the king of wan
 
the king of kings of dicks
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because even though it won't be your responsibility that something bad happens to you, something bad will still happen to you. I'm not concerned with being responsible, I'm concerned with bad things happening to me. (Probably not something to be proud of)
 
seems pretty natural to me
I'd say that's the neurotypical attitude
 
yeah, to me too
 
2:32 PM
Being responsible is for losers
 
not caring is the new thing now
didn't you know?
 
I didn't care before people invented caring
 
at least until caring comes back in vogue because some hipster realized that everybody stopped caring
 
@CatPlusPlus what about if you were a dog, I would not know in that case, would I?
 
2:33 PM
@chmod711telkitty No, you would not know that I were a dog if I were a dog
Or something
 
Increment enough and you become one. We have been trough that.
 
so you could be a dog but not god, is that right?
 
@AndyProwl meh
 
it's about not caring
 
not caring is not just bad for your own future prospects but, on aggregate, fucks up society in general
we see it everywhere now
nobody cares and nobody takes responsibility
wish they would
 
2:35 PM
Good, fuck everyone
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The irony.
 
that's called being a slut
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey! I am caring and thus resolving to take responsibility for my share! nice try tho
 
nobody wants responsibility, people just love the power that comes with it
 
@AndyProwl lol
 
have you built that house yet
 
2:36 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't mean people should literally learn from that :P
 
I agree with you
 
general response to that video existing
even though it's a joke
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit are you talking to me?
 
@chmod711telkitty no I'm talking to the other person here who is building a house
I wish one of these "airliner gone missing" stories would result in the airliner actually being missing then coming back with fascinating tales of travel through wormholes and contact with aliens. Rather than, y'know, just crashing.
 
2:38 PM
> 6 years later and this method still works.. not like I really give a fuck, but it does.
How are you even alive 6 years later?
 
progressing ... but slow during christmas. taking time off 25th - 28th, will be back onsite for a few hours tomorrow
 
lol
 
If I truly didn't give a fuck I would probably be ded.
 
Or dad
 
yeah cos u wouldnt eat
like in serenity
 
2:39 PM
No wait. You can't be dad if you don't give a fuck
 
@chmod711telkitty I imagine that 35ºC snow slows things down somewhat
 
@AndyProwl pun overflow
 
@AndyProwl you can take a fuck against your will
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Don't kinkshame
 
@AndyProwl You will love the marvels of technology.
 
2:39 PM
:P
 
illegal to work during public holidays or sundays
also dragged into a holiday
 
It reminds me of that guy that sent a "#yolo" message before dying in a car crash, probably caused by texting that message while driving.
Poor dude.
 
I should be working
 
That's what you get for typing yolo
No sympathy
 
He was just following the fashion.
 
@Jefffrey inb4 "even less sympathy"
 
@AndyProwl ikr
 
lol foxpro
another language that I have touched but remember nothing of
 
I like how there's "an active FoxPro community worldwide", despite the fact that the last released version is dated approx 20 years 3 months ago
i mean, that's cute
 
user1804599
What language to use for configuration?
 
2:44 PM
which os?
 
Do you guys remember a moment when you got obsesses with OOP in your life?
Am I the only one that did that?
 
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@Jefffrey No.
 
@Jefffrey No
 
@Jefffrey Yes
I'm glad it passed though
 
Like, I remember meeting with a guy once and discussing about PHP. And I was like: "Oh, man. Nah, you need more OOP. Read about objects and design patterns. That's how you write good code!".
 
2:48 PM
I did when I first heard of design patterns..
 
user1804599
Groovy it is.
 
Thanksfully I don't see that guy anymore, so I don't have to be ashamed about that.
 
man marrying a cat
 
Now, I go around saying: "Oh man. Nah, you need to be more functional. Read about functions and monads. That's how you write good code!".
 
Did you hear about reactive programming yet
 
2:50 PM
FRP?
Yup.
 
Xeo
I go around not talking about code \o/
 
I'm working with a FRP library (Helm) in Haskell for the Snake game.
 
@Xeo Congratulations, you've passed the sanity check
 
@Xeo Come on. That's impossible
 
Now development has kinda paused because they use cairo and apparently I get segmentation faults from some cairo call.
A known bug, AFAIKS.
 
2:52 PM
I used to like programming dunno how that's possible
 
how old are you cat?
 
@CatPlusPlus It was an hobby back then.
Not it's work.
It's not "perfect it until it's beautiful" anymore. It's all about shipping earlier than early.
 
omg johan is think about (marrying cat)++
 
wat
seriously telkitty, stop doing lsd
that stuff kills you
 
You are 100% guaranteed you die if you take LSD
 
2:55 PM
I look think about at times, sry about that.
 
I am 100% guaranteed to die without taking it too
 
@JohanLarsson 22ish
 
What do you want to do after programming?
 
@CatPlusPlus Why is that so absurd? Programming allows you to use your creativity and imagination. Sure, the tools tend to get on your way, and suckage exists everywhere, but how is that different from any other profession?
 
Alcohol
 
2:57 PM
alcool
 
@JohanLarsson I like playing music
 
hmm, any other options? Perhaps working with animals?
 
I also like alcohol, but I can't afford it lately
 
@JohanLarsson Garbage collection.
 
@AndyProwl I like programming. I dislike alcohol.
 
2:58 PM
There's like literally nothing else I can do for a living so whatever
 
no one interested in eat & sleep? like ... no one?
 
I could sleep all day
 
@CatPlusPlus bs
 
@CatPlusPlus Month of birth?
 
What I probably need to do is find a better hobby than arguing with nerds about programming on the internet
3
 
2:59 PM
@JohanLarsson Everyone's different :) I just love beer
 
@JohanLarsson anime
 

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