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3:00 PM
@chmod711telkitty lol really?
@CatPlusPlus yeah I feel that way too
I'm literally doing fuck all this week. It's kinda depressing even though I need the break from my usual routine of, um, doing fuck all. Oh, god...
 
At least you get some.
 
I should really get back to work.
 
@AndyProwl And you posted that message here because you want us to stop you?
 
Stackoverflow slogan should change to "Welcome to NERD school"
These questions are getting worst by the minute.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit your usual routine is 'fuck all. Oh, god'?
 
3:02 PM
@karlphillip You remind me of someone.
 
@Jefffrey I think it's more like "if I make commitments in public it's more likely that I'll stick to them, because if I don't, everyone will see my failure"
 
@AndyProwl It's not considered a failure here.
 
damn
 
@CatPlusPlus Find a more mathy job where you use programming as a tool and not just a grind?
 
@Jefffrey Perhaps someone tall, handsome, billionaire in the tech industry ... ?
 
3:04 PM
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Nooooo no math
 
work in a brewery? Or stomp grapes.
 
@karlphillip: WTF? I want the Naruto hair as well!
 
math is awesome
 
@Jefffrey I'll take it as a complement.
 
3:05 PM
one's complement
:P
 
lol physical work
 
dude
stop being a pussy
 
And for shit money too
 
there must be something you like to do
 
Programming at least pays semidecently
 
3:06 PM
Pessimist consultant?
 
lol
 
lol
 
"you're doing it all wrong. burn it"
 
Never too late to give up could be your slogan.
 
hey
you stupid chat
I want to lol twice
 
3:07 PM
yes?
 
@karlphillip sadly none of them code in C++
 
don't merge my lols
 
Things I like to do don't pay very well usually
 
like?
 
getting drunk?
 
3:08 PM
i would even be surprised if you could list 1 (not being drunk or doing drugs)
 
I don't have much chance of becoming a tubyoube famous and earning money through playing games all day
 
@chmod711telkitty Don't need to remind me of that sad fact.
 
@CatPlusPlus I would watch it.
@CatPlusPlus You can't know that for sure unless you try!
 
Watching shows doesn't pay much either, even if I managed to do a rifftrax kind of thing or whatever
Meeting with friends is negative income
So is chatting with people on the nerdtubes
 
Is there anything constructive that gives you pleasure? I mean, things you make or create?
It seems you're mostly talking about consuming stuff
 
3:10 PM
@Jefffrey lol anxieties can't do
@AndyProwl I don't have patience
 
I see
 
Well unless it's dong towers in Minecraft or whatever
But I already mentioned playing games
 
I don't have much patience & I make/create stuff
 
yeah
 
@chmod711telkitty Thanksfully I would say.
I can't imagine you being a nurse.
 
3:12 PM
lol, me neither
 
Xeo
fuck, I'm losing a lot of heat somewhere in my room
 
I thought about music but I really lack the patience for learning shit from scratch
@Xeo Hull breach
 
Xeo
the heater is hot, but the room still feels really cool.
 
Well, I'm afraid without patience you can't really achieve much unless you have some super talent
 
Xeo
fuck's sake
 
3:13 PM
@Xeo Illness? Drugs? :)
 
Anyway I'm not sure I believe you entirely about patience because accumulating your knowledge must have required patience
 
Xeo
and the heater in my living room and bathroom seem to be just... dead.
grrrr
 
@Xeo windows?
 
xeo: eat more and grow 2 layers of fat - ever seen a whale cold?
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl Prolly
 
3:14 PM
The thing about grind is that you can do it once and then you don't want to do it ever again
 
Xeo
I never understood why heaters are always placed right below the windows
 
@Xeo To heat the coolest part of the room?
 
Did a decade+ of programming, not going to put that much effort into anything else ever again
 
Not even if it's something you like?
 
Xeo
maybe it's just my windows not being properly isolated when closed
 
3:15 PM
There must be something constructive you like
I should be doing something constructive
 
is complaining constructive? cat++ seems to be doing that a lot
 
It might be
 
Xeo
venting is good
 
Words often lead to actions
 
Maybe you can sell really harsh code reviews?
 
Xeo
3:18 PM
also, I got moisture building up in my living room
aaaaaaa
 
Or teach people
 
Xeo
why is everything so fucked up
 
dunno if there is much market for it
 
I'd definitely pay for a Cat course on FP
Talk at conferences
 
Xeo
I'd pay for working stuffs.
grrrrr
 
3:19 PM
Be more known and get yourself more possibilities
And also more money
 
Xeo
I feel irritated by all the things right now. I should prolly just go and do something to occupy my mind.
Like laundry
 
Yeah, do talks bashing John "ICreateMyGameDevProgrammingLanguage"
I don't remember the name.
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey meh. boring, useless, unfun
 
fun for me
 
@Jefffrey That's what he deserves
If I had a professional profile like Cat's or Robot's or Puppy's I'd definitely be giving talks at conferences
I would sell my knowledge and get something back from all the years spent learning it
 
Xeo
3:22 PM
@AndyProwl That seems like the wrong way to go about it
"workworkwork". meh.
 
user1804599
woot
 
user1804599
Groovy works.
 
@Xeo you're in that list
 
lol like I know anything
 
Xeo
I feel like not-thinking about work right now.
 
3:23 PM
@Xeo: Do you have central heating or is each heater separate? Is it using water? If so, have you tried letting the air out of the radiator?
 
Xeo
Only got a week of vacation left.
@VáclavZeman Uses water, and that water is getting heated somewhere central I believe.
 
@CatPlusPlus You are king of nerds.
 
Xeo
Dunno how to go about the letting-out-air thing
 
I don't even remember you not knowing anything about any technical topic that was ever discussed here
 
@Xeo: Have you tried to do this: wikihow.com/Bleed-a-Radiator
 
Xeo
3:25 PM
I just don't usually partake in discussions involving things I have no fucking clue about
 
@Xeo I was talking about Cat, but yes, you should be giving talks too. But I said this to you already
 
Xeo
Oh, I was just commenting on the general discussion
 
Ah, I see
 
Xeo
time to order some food and then do laundry and cleaning the rooms and stuff. Ugh.
 
@CatPlusPlus Find yourself a wife and have some kids. That is some hobby! :)
 
Xeo
3:30 PM
@VáclavZeman ah, I don't quite think that's the issue? because I can't even feel any heat from the pipes going into the heater in my living room. OTOH, the pipe going into my heater in the kitchen is warm/hot even though the heater is turned off.
 
@Xeo call a technician perhaps?
 
Xeo
I have a bad feeling that the renovation work in the flat below mine busted something
 
@VáclavZeman The point is to be less miserable not more
Kids are annoying
 
I think kids are fun. Wives are more annoying
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl I called my housing company thingy, hopefully I'll hear back from them tomorrow
stupid holidays
 
3:31 PM
@Xeo Do you have enough water in the system? You should have some pressure gauge somewhere. If it is exactly 1 bar, you do not have enough, I think.
 
Xeo
@VáclavZeman "somewhere", eh.
 
@CatPlusPlus Your own are not annoying, usually. :)
 
Xeo
I guess I could search through the basement or something
 
@Xeo Letting the air out of the system is never a bad thing
 
Xeo
I also don't get why I get moisture accumulating in my living room, while that's not the case in my bedroom. :(
 
3:33 PM
Check valves also maybe something is just shut
You'd probably notice if the pipes were broken
 
@Xeo Different air currents? The wall is too cold and it condenses there.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I didn't touch any valves and I know that the heating worked at some point last winter
 
@Xeo You need to have it checked each year before winter.
 
@AndyProwl agreeing
@AndyProwl though I completely disagree there. This steers the judgemental attitude precisely where it shouldn't be going. It's not about "this person sucks, e.g. here:...". More like "this person's behaviour sometimes sucks" or even better "I had a bad experience with this person here:..."
@AndyProwl iecur
 
@Xeo It's probably just air
 
Xeo
3:37 PM
mebbe. I'll just try that, I guess
 
6 hours ago, by Andy Prowl
@JohanLarsson It was a sarcastic provocation. Of course I'm not really suggesting that
:)
 
Pressure gauge should be on the boiler btw
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus whereever that thing is
 
@AndyProwl I fail at scanning the transcript I suppose. Or you say things in isolation that can be held against you :)
 
Xeo
somewhere in the basement, prolly
 
3:40 PM
@sehe Yeah, sometimes I do
 
@AndyProwl What are you missing?
 
@JohanLarsson Their knowledge
and perspective
and possibly more
 
@AndyProwl :) in context
 
What do you mean?
 
I read perspective as view on things. It is pretty easy to simulate puppy & cats pesrpective if so. Just say everything sux.
 
3:45 PM
Simulating is easy, yes
 
> Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal
@sehe do you always read it all?
 
OK, we had 2 games and I won both. Now, nobody wants to play. Bastards!
 
You won't see my giving any talks probably ever
 
All those times when I lost bad, nobody complained. Fuck'em, they're all shit, bash 'programmers' in disguise.
@CatPlusPlus Really? I'm speechless.
 
These days if you want to insult someone you call them web developers
 
Xeo
3:54 PM
So, no air in either of the broken heaters - I immediately get water when I open the bleeding valves.
 
Let it run for a while
 
Is it a gas heater?
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. Too drunk to think of suitable epithets.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's a shame
 
Xeo
@JohanLarsson No clue. I only know that I get hot water in 2 out of 4 heaters / radiators.
whatever you call those things
 
3:56 PM
Bleed for longer. You have big airlock.
 
^ unlikely imo
Is the hot water supposed to come in via a pipe from some central thing?
 
user1804599
cool
 
user1804599
much F6
   so rename class
 wow
  many refactor
 
yes that is the problem
 
@JohanLarsson not anymore
 
4:01 PM
@Xeo That only means there is water around the valves :P
 
The bleeding valve is placed high for that reason.
 
you can't taste-test the whole orange by eating a single segment
 
If the design is half decent water from the valve should mean no problem with air
 
Xeo
@JohanLarsson ye
 
4:03 PM
Also large quantities of air should be audible if there is circulation.
 
Xeo
And I get warm pipes on two radiators, and cold pipes on the other two
also, I just checked and I can't enter the basement room that contains the heating stuff
 
follow the pipe and confirm that your neighbors have the same problem?
 
Xeo
so yeah, I'll just call them again tomorrow, maybe I'm lucky and my go-to guy is actually there when I'm calling
@JohanLarsson neighbour's out.
also, the pipes go somewhere in the walls
hm. I could ask my neighbour above me.
 
Are there any fuses you can check?
 
AirAsia ordered 200 airbuses. nice
 
4:10 PM
200? damn...
 
^ That escalated quickly
 
they currently have around 160 of them
 
@StackedCrooked Surely they only need to replace 1
 
4:10 PM
lol
 
> In June 2011 AirAsia ordered 200 Airbus A320neos at the Paris Air Show.[48][49] The planes are due to become available in 2015, and the deal is one of the largest ever for commercial aircraft in a single order.
 
Xeo
@JohanLarsson ?
 
@Xeo just a shot in the dark if some circulation pump is down cos fuse
 
my sister saw the pixies live. kinda jealous
 
Xeo
4:14 PM
@JohanLarsson dunno
 
Xeo
also, neighbour just came back - he doesn't seem to have any heating problems
 
@AlexM. Have you ever seen surroundtitles ?
 
@Xeo does he have a hot missus?
@Borgleader lol
 
@Borgleader nice
@Xeo lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 7.8/10
my former landlord asked me if I can hack computers
i also learned she does espionage on the side
I no longer live there.
 
And you just made us targets by telling us.
You dick :P
 
she also has 22 dogs
 
@rightføld it does
 
I have the class 'Tree' with nodes 'TreeElement'. I inherited a new class 'TreeNew' from 'Tree' and want to use custom nodes 'TreeElementNew'. How to do it? I don't want to reimplement all methods of Tree, that work with TreeElement.
 
(Implement aplus)
 
4:22 PM
no.
evening everybody
 
@Borgleader No! I love you!
 
@QueueOverflow Templates are the cure for everything.
 
@milleniumbug I thought about it... but it's already template class... ok, let's be Boost. Thanks)
 
Just posted a question for the On The Road hat... and only just realised that I'll get one for self-answering it, too :D
plus Aztec
that's three in one go
that'll take me from #51 to #25 on the leaderboard
if I can't have a productive life then at least I can try to get as many Winter Bash hats as possible
why don't I have Kofia hmm
 
it's freezing and there's lots of wind
deadly combo
 
4:35 PM
you must construct additional pylons
 
user1804599
@BenjaminGruenbaum meh
 
@Puppy Gooood eveeenniinnng.
 
@Puppy pylons?
 
tomorrow I get to go home, clean up my place, repair my machine, etc etc.
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
Hmm, shiny.
 
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Q: "On The Road" hat is Americentric

Lightness Races in OrbitWhy does the "On The Road" hat largely feature a cap labelled "USA"? Did you forget that only ~25% of your unique visitors are connecting from the USA? I can't wear this hat because it would show pride in some country unrelated to me, which makes me sad.

Let the flaming begin.
 
@Borgleader lol, nope
first time
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're so butthurt
3
 
5
Q: POD structs containing constant member

qbt937With this code: struct A { int i; const int b; }; // The union is to verify that A is a type that can be used in a union. union U { A a; int b; }; int main() { U a = {1, 1}; U b = {2, 1}; } g++ version 4.8.3 complains about an error: a.cpp:9:4: error: member ‘A U::a’...

 
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A: "On The Road" hat is Americentric

Don LarynxAmerica is known for its highways, such as route 66 http://www.discoveramerica.com/usa/road-trips.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highways

wtf is this answer
@Ell what?! I'm having fun!
 
5:04 PM
Someone just upvoted the blinkenlights answer
Though I disproved it in mine
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Can you check my answer for the linked question, I might leave fairly soon and don't want to be sandbagged while I'm gone :o)
 
yeah I'm the butthurt one
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit haha me too :P
 
@Columbo I'm staying out of it
cba
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Pretty immature, you trolled me into stop watching the video -_- (+1 for the standard excerpts) — Norah Attkins 4 mins ago
ahahahaha
 
Unfortunately, find me a contradiction that shows other countries' highways are more popular. — Don Larynx 3 mins ago
aha
AHAHAHAH
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What do you mean? You participated in the comment section of the other answer and called the conclusio valid. I just want to know whether my answer could persuade you of the opposite.
 
5:10 PM
@Columbo yeah but I stopped because I realised I didn't care and couldn't find anything quickly in the std
not keen to dive back into it now
I did have a quick sanity check of your claim
I can neither confirm nor deny it, at this point
that entire Q&A is tl;dr tbh
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Did you ever read a book
Like, specialized literature about computer science
:P
 
no
I have[n't got] better things to do
@Columbo fine, posted a comment
@Lightness that is a strawman comment. — Don Larynx 2 mins ago
ITT strawman comments
 
SE made that hat because SE is in 'murica
it's pretty obvious to me
not because the US has whatever highways it has
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How do you get the Tars Tardis hat?
 
> I am amused however that Notch now owns 15 remote controlled toilets that each cost $5,600.
 
5:18 PM
Really? @Lightness You are an expert at C++ yet you cannot perform a simple Google search? google.com/…Don Larynx 1 min ago
lol
you are so bad
even don can win an argument against you
3
that hat was sexy on that pic though
 
Xeo
Daaaang dat UBW episode.
 
@Borgleader edit five questions that are older than a year :)
@DonLarynx: "Strawman argument" != "strawman comment". Try reading. — Lightness Races in Orbit 7 secs ago
I actually got a few new answers on my old questions that I'd edited
and the edits were good
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You are being intentionally dense and everybody sees it.
 
user1804599
Dependent typing is nice.
 
an argument is a series of statements typically used to persuade someone of something (an opinion) or to present reasons for accepting a conclusion.
a comment is a spoken or written statement that expresses an opinion about someone or something.

Clearrly my usage of the word was correct. But this is the wrong chat for this. Perhaps you would like to follow me to http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/95/english-chocolate-usage @LightnessRacesinOrbit, where your 1,092 rep deceives us?
 
user1804599
5:25 PM
The type system can statically guarantee I don't mix up basic blocks of different control flow graphs.
 
@DonLarynx I'm your biggest fan.
No, I'm not literally a fan.
 
Xeo
Go blow him
Fans are made for blowing, right?
 
SNOOOOOOW
 
@DonLarynx This is the perfect room for this.
 
5:30 PM
I'm getting really fat
 
@CatPlusPlus How fat is really fat?
 
Maaan I'll have to put effort into working out or some shit
Disapprove
 
@CatPlusPlus: Time to buy you a dog
 
god I wish monodevelop stopped being so bad
actually VS is now free
and so is unity for VS
why do I still use this piece of junk
 
user1804599
5:35 PM
Great, time to watch 71 minutes of consecutive cutscenes.
 
@rightføld What are you playing?
 
user1804599
MGS4
 
user1804599
Following the story this time.
 
Great, time to play 71 minutes of consecutive gameplay.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit My answer got accepted :D
 
5:39 PM
@AlexM. Where'd his mustache and monocle go?
 
unity's editor-only things (gizmos) are neat
I can overlay graphics over the real scene to aid me in designing things
like this
where I created a visual representation of the logical 2D grid behind the level
all that's left now is make the selected cell be highlighted and bam! nice visual editor for the grid
@Nooble he grew too fat for those
needs bigger size
 
Can you even do procedural world generation with Unity? The support for this is what made me decide to make my own rendering engine.
 
yes
a guy over in the gamedev.se chat made a voxel-based world in unity
he kept complaining about it not being FAST ENOUGH and abandoned things prematurely
or so I remember
still, he had this basic voxel and used it to generate things dynamically
 
Also, does Unity optimize well enough? The thought of overhead for such an extensive engine scares me.
 
Unity is used to make games, not tech demos
 
5:45 PM
in Java, 3 mins ago, by Unihedro
@Jefffrey without null, you'd be like in pascal: when you write var mystring:string;, you get mystring as an empty string value
 
it's not a super-fast engine, especially when you build for mobiles
a lot of people had to resort to manually triggering the GC because it would fire in the most annoying moment for them
etc. etc.
depends on the game
 
@Jefffrey They're both dumb. There's no reason for there to be such a thing as a default string value.
var mystring: string; should be illegal.
 
in Java, 1 min ago, by Unihedro
@Jefffrey static analysis sucks
 
oh it's one of those guys.
ignore him.
 
tbh I've initiated the conversation because I was bored
I mean, I understand accepting Java for the boring language it is, and just admit the problems it has. But stating that even null everywhere (except primitive types) is good takes courage.
 

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