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9:00 AM
VCS
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Zoidtypo
 
@FredOverflow that might be work :P
 
@FredOverflow Exhaustive answers: (a) you're clinically blind (b) you want to watch movies from the couch (c) you like pixel art porn (d) you just don't wanna risk accidentally giving it to charity
 
@sehe Why do you say so, btw?
 
Xeo
9:00 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Your language really isn't the best today, eh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Try "Unit", or "Item". Workses
 
I like to play with words and I find this one rather funny. Other people seem to agree.
 
@FredOverflow if you're a designer or an artist you want one huge contiguous working space
 
The trick is not overdoing it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Re. the beer: I honestly saw you mention it >3 times without the context of disgust.
 
9:01 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oho.
 
@sehe I can get two good 22" monitors for about €100 total on eBay, this is really tempting...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Re. the 'device' fad: I remember doing this all the time when I was in a frat house
 
@FredOverflow 22"? Savage.
 
Xeo
24" > 22"
 
I think I wouldn't mind buying 3x27"
 
9:01 AM
@FredOverflow "good" (needs citation)
 
@BartekBanachewicz My art is coming up with puns. I don't need a 27" for that.
 
Size doesn't matter
 
@Xeo Surprising.
 
@sehe that's what sehe said
 
@Xeo Yes, but 2x22" > 24"
 
9:02 AM
EPIC TYPO STRIKES AGAIN
 
@sehe You know, some standard Samsung crap.
 
@Xeo Polish is never the best. Except for shoes and reverse.
 
@FredOverflow that's not "good" by any stretch of imagination
 
@BartekBanachewicz :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Good enough for me. I was very happy with my Syncmaster 205BW for many years.
 
9:03 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Your imagination is terrible.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, SyncMaster is plenty ok. Don't expect color calibration etc.
 
@Xeo I've been playing Magicka for half of the night. Show some understanding.
 
Woof
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz I liked frying my own teammates in that one.
 
@Xeo guess what we did (we had full party)
 
9:04 AM
@Xeo And then you switch the other one of, so you can focus (and conserve energy)?
 
suprisingly, even when playing over steam, we were routed over LAN
that game must be terrible with high ping
 
Xeo
Yeah, I can imagine
 
@sehe It's TFT, innit?
@FredOverflow after buying the iPad, no other screen is really good :F
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have never owned any Apple products.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's old. But it works
 
9:06 AM
@FredOverflow your loss
 
user1804599
LCD or GTFO.
 
@sehe tempted to add badly
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow 2x24" > 2x22" :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wait, so you pay for it and it ruins your life forever?
 
@not-rightfold There are GTFO monitors?
 
user1804599
9:07 AM
@FredOverflow Yes, they're called AMOLED.
 
@not-rightfold There's LCD-TFT and LCD-IPS and (whatnot)
 
@Xeo 3x22" > 2x24" ;)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have an IPS panel side by side to my 2343BW and I still haven't found motivation to switch the IPS into central position
 
@FredOverflow 3x27" > 2x24"
 
Xeo
My 24" monitor at home was 130€ I think
 
9:08 AM
12x22" = 11x24", I think :) So should I buy twelve 22" or eleven 24"?
Wait, how many graphics cards would I need for that?
 
eleven 24", cause eleven is prime
 
My 17" isn't all that impressive, but I was born with it [*]
 
@sehe we have a lot of screens at work, but everyone tries to lays hands on the U2412M, U2410, or the HP equivalent
 
Of course
 
I have SyncMaster BX2440 at work. Unfortunately, my employer did not think it would be a good idea to provide a PC with at least DVI. So the monitor is connected through usual VGA cable.
 
9:09 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What is the HP equivalent?
@wilx Buy a cheap graphics card for 20 bucks?
 
@sehe [*] or rather, it grew on me
 
@FredOverflow I am not going to touch the provided HW.
 
Dang, my graphics card doesn't have two identical connectors :( So I'd have to connect one with HDMI and one with DVI. It would always feel asymmetric to me...
 
Is [*] a way to cheat the edit window timer?
 
@sehe Sentimental, either you are getting old or you have recently had some kids, or both!
 
9:10 AM
@MarcClaesen I should probably get a 23" then, because neither 22 nor 24 are prime :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, it's way to add a late addition to a message without extending it needlessly (star bait and all)
@wilx you missed the joke
 
@sehe You have monitor cancer?
 
@FredOverflow yes that would work too
 
@sehe :(
 
Xeo
The main difference is that hm1 doesn't work. — R. Martinho Fernandes 2 mins ago
 
9:11 AM
@sehe We need chat support for footnotes.
 
@FredOverflow Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most cancers grow from the inside
 
Xeo
Robot ninja'd the comment :<
 
@FredOverflow And then we need to make really lousy ones like in the standard
 
@FredOverflow zr2440w IIRC
 
New is not an operator (it is in c++ though). Also, it doesn't create an overload: in fact it does the opposite. — sehe 3 secs ago
 
9:14 AM
@wilx why? I usually fiddle inside my workstation at least once a week
@FredOverflow post that as a GH issue
 
Hi guys
 
hi @kbok. Perfect timing ^
 
woah, indeed
 
> THIS BREAKS EVERYTHING
 
JBL
Oho, a mail that encourages me to evaluate my university courses...
 
9:18 AM
Nice.
 
JBL
There will be blood.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes exactly :3
@JBL "... everywhere I go"
 
user1804599
I want LaTeX math in Lounge<Chat>.
 
@not-rightfold MathJax is nice imho.
 
user1804599
I know.
 
9:19 AM
Could it work if everyone installed a plugin?
As a temporary solution :v
 
user1804599
Uh, or I can just make it a setting that you can turn on and off.
 
user1804599
Fuck plug-ins.
 
@not-rightfold I meant in this chat
w/e
 
user1804599
Ohh. :P
 
this thread needs more wookie.
I also have to finish the spine.
 
9:24 AM
I broke something.
 
Kindle Fires are such a clusterf**k of a tablet that a so-called "mayday" copilot help feature is one of its selling points. Wow.
he mad.
 
Protip: don't $ tmux attach -d when there is only the current session and you are already the only client attached to it.
 
I have no idea what tmux is
 
user1804599
It's an orgasm.
 
is it a poor man's "terminal tabs"?
I could probably see its usefullness when writing in terminal-only mode, otherwise meh.
 
9:30 AM
@BartekBanachewicz did you see my comments on #23?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I couldn't resist passively-aggressively telling him he's an idiot for those stars.
 
@kbok where are they?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've noticed
 
@BartekBanachewicz No. Terminal tabs are a poor man's tmux.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ~~~
 
@BartekBanachewicz Somewhere on the chat
I'll copy them to the PR
 
9:35 AM
mawning
 
user1804599
Fuck you CSS and z-index not working on elements with position: static;.
 
user1804599
Piece of shit.
 
Arggh, iceptions.
> Internal compiler error: Error reporting routines re-entered.
 
I want implicit constexpr
 
9:39 AM
@BartekBanachewicz With tmux I can ssh into a machine and (c)lose the connection without losing my shell session.
 
is that too much to ask?
just gimme a compiler error whenever a virtual or lambda or sth other not evaluable is being called. otherwise, just compute the damn expression
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes interesting
@kbok that would be nice.
 
hmm, nobody interested in constexpr... I wonder why
 
@TemplateRex I want explicit one
 
@BartekBanachewicz why? all the builtin types are implicitly constexpr. At the very least I'd like to mark a whole class constexpr and be done with it
class Literal constexpr { /* bla */ }; that's it.
 
9:44 AM
@TemplateRex eh C++ and its (developers') obsession towards compile-time
 
Xeo
@TemplateRex That might be nice - if literal classes were useful at all
 
Sometimes I feel like I'm missing something. I don't find constexpr all that interesting :S
 
@Xeo They are, e.g. bitset, array, complex could all be constexpr wholesale. same for most algorithms that don't take a lambda
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can use constexpr to greatly simplify TMP, almost all of Boost.MPL becomes unnecessary
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I only really find it interesting for UDLs
 
> [...] and when I saw that !!38x^3!! in the denominator, I laughed, really loudly. My new neighbor was in her back yard, which adjoins the courtyard, and heard me, and said that if I was going to laugh like that I had to explain what was so funny. I said “Do you really want to know?” and she said yes, but I think she was mistaken MD
 
9:48 AM
I think Boost.MPL could be split into two sets: things better done with variadics (type list manipulation) and things better done with constexpr (integral type computations)
 
@TemplateRex Meh, I don't use TMP for numbers.
 
@TemplateRex Nah. It should be reimplemented using just those. And that currently means, use Annex or Wheels or ...
 
And constexpr can't replace TMP for types.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no not for types, but I want it for numerical computations
 
Yeah, that's the appeal I don't understand at all.
 
9:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes screen does that too, but I suppose it wasn't about that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes computational physicists would disagree with you, why do you think Blitz++ is popular
 
@TemplateRex Erm, what do you compute at compile-time exactly?
(And do you compute it at every single compilation?)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes literal constants used in runtime computations
 
Boost.MLP
@TemplateRex you know if you recompile often you pay the cost at compilation time
so seriously, you might as well compile at runtime and save to a file
 
and yes, I know that I can do a two-step build process, but I don't like that
 
9:52 AM
and that will most probably be faster.
@TemplateRex that's much more flexible than constexpr will ever be
and again, faster, because I don't think the compiler uses SIMD for example during compilaton of constexprs
 
@BartekBanachewicz __builtinpopcount is constexpr in Clang trunk :-) I think other intrinsics can also be done like that
look, I know that there are limits to it, but why not make it implicit and let the compiler barf if I try something unreasonable.
 
constexpr int __popcount_table[] =
{
    0,1,1,2,1,2,2,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,
    1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,
    1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,
    2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,4,5,5,6,5,6,6,7,
    1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,
    2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,4,5,5,6,5,6,6,7,
    2,3,3,4,3,4,4,5,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,3,4,4,5,4,5,5,6,4,5,5,6,5,6,6,7,
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what the...
 
@BartekBanachewicz Probably the fastest 1-byte popcount implementation you'll ever see.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah that's the number of light-up bits
didn't know the term
 
Xeo
9:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes shouldn't that be unsigned char?
 
@Xeo Maybe.
Signed chars are stupid.
 
user1804599
@Xeo Make it a template!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes in cases like this I like to make the static data function-local
 
Dunno if that works in constexpr so I'm playing it safe.
 
Xeo
relaxed constexpr allows it
 
10:01 AM
@BartekBanachewicz lol - as if SIMD would matter there :| Don't you think the overhead of just instantiating all the compiler cruft would swamp this
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. You're quite right. I forgot about restrictive constexpr
 
user1804599
@sehe Use JIT compilation!
 
Meh. Use Terra
 
user1804599
Terrarium.
 
Xeo
Terraria
 
Terroria
 
10:06 AM
> Then on Friday night I was sitting around thinking about which numbers n are such that 10n2+9 a perfect square
This guy has uncommon occupations
 
What? Don't tell me you never did that.
 
Why is 38x^3 so funny?
 
@kbok There's a link, you know (hint: I don't remember :))
 
@sehe yeah well SIMD was just one example.
 
10:15 AM
@sehe I read the whole story, but I don't get it
 
@not-rightfold if I ever create Terra IDE, I will call it Terrarium
Actually that sounds like a nice project idea
I should write it down
Strikes #2 on my future project list, just under my super special secret Haskell one.
 
What is that one?
What of Criterion++?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah right, I forgot about that one.
 
On my list I have: Criterion++, Rincewind, Halcyon, Journey, Ize, Dagon, and Proteus. I forgot what half of those are. I should write down more than their code names.
 
10:24 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can call it HsRandomArt++
but that name sucks, I will need a better one
 
Don't steal mine!
 
don't worry; that would cause far too much confusion here
Everyone would have, for example, to write Bajtek/Ize and Robot/Ize
 
Criterion++?
 
@kbok intelligent benchmarks for C++ code (Haskell tool is called Criterion)
 
10:30 AM
Nice
What about C++riterion, though? Bonus points for unpronounceability
 
unpronounceability is unpronounceable
 
It's easier said than written, though
 
I like the word enlightenment
It appears in TypeSpeed :)
yay rep.
@kbok lol that's just sad.
 
Xeo
Reminds me, I should work on my secret Haskell project some more
 
What is it?
 
Xeo
10:37 AM
an IRC Bot
 
> I am thinking to make changes in the openGLes library itself
sigh
 
Xeo
Also, intercalate is cool.
 
Lunchtime funtime! Check out my spinning cube!!! #gooengine http://t.co/sMEoBv70Ip
She appears to also have the brain damage WRT cubes.
Cubes.
Ponies.
 
@CapricaSix what will happen if I call you like this? Will you come?
 
10:48 AM
I should get to work now
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Vim plug-in.
 
@not-rightfold Can I write a vim plugin in Lua? It would require users to have vim with builtin Lua compiled, right?
 
user1804599
IIRC yes.
 
@not-rightfold did you just return nil to my second question?
 
user1804599
No.
 
10:54 AM
yay more upboats.
 
11:11 AM
@JerryCoffin I know it's a weird question to ask, but I've been reading the daily wtf, and found a quote about a rack webserver: "It’s likely been running continuously until now. Those things don’t power back on if they’ve been running hot too long.". Is that statement true, and there exist some mythical powers that will keep the PC running, but then fail to reboot it?
 
Xeo
> p_nick = letter <:> many (letter <|> digit)
> p_server = many1 (letter <|> char '.')
> p_prefix = char ':' *> (try p_nick <|> p_server) <* eof
> input = ":blah.blub.com"
> parse p_prefix "" input
unexpected '.'
expecting letter, digit or end of input
:|
oh. Wait.
argh
"blah" is a valid p_nick ...
 
@Xeo this code is strange
 
Xeo
how so?
 
I have a sense it's Haskell, but I don't recognize all those operators :(
 
Xeo
Parsec / Applicative
and (<:>) = liftA2 (:)
 
11:21 AM
@Xeo I wish my uni burned to the ground so I could actually dedicate that time to learning Haskell :<
 
user1804599
@Xeo cœl
 
the new Chrome update sucks cock.
 
user1804599
Plankton is best plankton.
 
> The next straw nearly gave him an aneurism. An automated review of the code found over 1800 source code files that were completely unused. A conservative double-check revealed that at least 1300 hadn't been run in over 3 years.
and @kbok complains on my one leftover function :) (jk)
@not-rightfold you're retweeting buzzwords
that's how they become buzzwords
 
user1804599
Words become buzzwords when they appear in Google Buzz.
 
11:28 AM
Oh god "Report to WTF" VS Addin
> The project became legendary for the epic level of fail it had attained.
I love the phrases.
 
Xeo
GAUPHAÖUHÄAIHGÄÄ
fuck you GHCi
 
@Xeo your letters have dots above them
 
Xeo
Sind sie nicht schön?
 
Ist sie die Anzeichen der Zorn?
my german sucks so much
I am all for making one day a week in Lounge a German day.
 
Xeo
"Sind sie die Anzeichen des Zorns", perhaps?
 
11:39 AM
des, fuck it.
 
Xeo
desu
 
Xeo
what?
 
naaaaathing.
I am seriously a tad angry at myself about being illiterate in German after 6 years of learning it.
I had terrible teachers, but that's obviously not an excuse :/
#ifdef PROFESSIONAL_EDITION
#define DECISION_STORAGE_TYPE int
#else
#define DECISION_STORAGE_TYPE short
#endif
 
wat
 
user1804599
11:51 AM
-1 not enough using.
 
@DeadMG clear benefits of going "pro"
(I'm reading TDWTF)
 
Xeo
> p_nick = letter <:> many (letter <|> digit)
> p_server = fmap concat $ many1 letter <:> many (char '.' <:> many1 letter)
> p_prefix = char ':' *> (try p_server <|> p_nick) <* eof
> parse p_prefix "" ":blah.blub.com"
Right "blah.blub.com"
whee
I'm sure there's a better way to write p_server, though
 
12:15 PM
@DeadMG Woot. I predict it will be the most popular browser within a week, then
 
user1804599
@Xeo p_server = many1 letter `sepBy` char '.', I guess. :P
 
Xeo
aaaaah, of course, sepBy
 
user1804599
HOFs are Magic.
 
Xeo
p_prefix = concat <$> many1 letter `sepBy1` char '.', actually
(concat and sepBy1)
derp, swallows seperators. intercalate "." <$> many1 letter `sepBy1` char '.'
that feels unclean again, though, swallowing seperators and then putting them back in
argh, no, sepBy doesn't force the seperator to be there. ":Xeo" would also be parsed as p_server
 
@BartekBanachewicz Even I can tell that is wrong :P
 
12:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes stop doing that :(
or maybe do it more, I don't know
It's the university syndrome
 
Xeo
Robot, any parser (combinator) in Parsec that requires seperators between other parsers?
 
it's starting soon and my brain is enabling defense mechanisms
god I don't want to go back there
 
Like... >> sep >>?
 
anywhere else but not this fucking clusterfuck of bullshit
 
Xeo
35 mins ago, by Xeo
> p_nick = letter <:> many (letter <|> digit)
> p_server = fmap concat $ many1 letter <:> many (char '.' <:> many1 letter)
> p_prefix = char ':' *> (try p_server <|> p_nick) <* eof
> parse p_prefix "" ":blah.blub.com"
Right "blah.blub.com"
^ p_server being the context
 
12:31 PM
sequence $ intersperse sep [blah, blah] should do too.
intercalate reminds me of intercaloninterstates.org
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm?
 
Just make a list of the parsers, drop the separator parser in the middle, and sequence them all.
Maybe I don't get what you want.
 
Xeo
I just want to parse "blah.blub.com" with at least 1 ".<letters>" subsequence in there
which is p_server above
guess what I have above is the cleanest way, huh
 
@sehe you're so overdoing it :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz thank you
And I didn't even use Spirit
3
 
Xeo
12:45 PM
I'm sure you could include that in some way
 
Including it is simple. And it will get you most of the profit! Compile times will jump up by at least 3 seconds
 
@sehe that looks like a sport of fixing terrible code. I had something similar WRT , but since the most terrible questions there now just make me headdesk...
 
@BartekBanachewicz In fairness, it wasn't the most terrible code. But, yes, it's mostly curiosity ("can I make sense of this"). See this for a much much worse case: stackoverflow.com/questions/18994195/program-run-keeps-failing/…
So, here's a version that implements the traversals and more exception safe. It leverages shared_ptr to remove a lot of manual management (so it's both a good example of modern C++ and likely not useful for your C++ course). Anyways, just in case you are curious: http://ideone.com/6nd6tWsehe 11 hours ago
 
Xeo
You seem to be very bored.
 
Procrastination is a strong force
 
12:48 PM
Not being able to see OP's faces reading the Answer takes a bit of fun from that
 
Yay somebody answered my OpenGL question :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz :)
 
Hai guys :D
 
@Borgleader refresh it again.
 
@Borgleader Probably the guy who just replied to you just now.
 

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