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5:01 AM
@JerryCoffin Yeah, it's like 12 days of clicking every single one, but that's why it's a shadow achievement. I had like 1750, then reset for more cps by the time I got back to where I was, then an update came out where you keep the clicks when you reset, so I could be ahead by like 1750 if I waited a bit to reset lol.
 
@refp Hmmm...indicates that the "not necessarily human" group may not be restricted to models.
 
Mornin fellers
 
I'm at 1710 now, and it can only go up, so it can't take forever.
 
@chris whoa, that's one tall building
 
@refp Made entirely out of cookies.
I have 15.35 quadrillion at the moment, so if anyone wants one, now's the time.
 
5:02 AM
@chris you better start munching away
 
The really nice thing is that it doesn't take much effort to be effective, but resetting gives a nice opportunity for being active for a while.
 
@chris Maybe if they were really good chocolate cookies, but...well, I never liked Goldschläger, so golden cookies don't sound all that great.
 
well
I'm going to go off and fail at sleeping
wish me luck.
 
@DeadMG May the best of luck be with ye and all thy endeavors. :-)
 
@DeadMG Good luck. Hope that gets fixed up soon.
 
5:20 AM
Firefox 25 beta breaks Tab Mix Plus. :<
 
@DeadMG Don't worry, you only need to close your eyes to get a pass mark
@chris Pretty cool :P
 
@GamesBrainiac You fail Knowledge: Lounge skill check.
 
@CatPlusPlus Dammit, I was so close :P
@CatPlusPlus Anyhoo, hows life?
 
Everything's terrible.
I made the goddamn server work, though.
 
@GamesBrainiac Life is good. Death is peaceful. Only the transition is problematic.
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5:22 AM
@CatPlusPlus Let me guess, you're still working a Ruby server?
 
@GamesBrainiac After he's done in the Portal dungeon, I want to bring a box of "cake" to his office.
 
@JerryCoffin Well said.
@chris Man, your uni sounds pretty cool
My professors are stuck in the stone age
 
@JerryCoffin That's been my friend's skype status for like 4 years.
 
@GamesBrainiac He's probably the best person there.
 
@Rapptz Hmmm....I think I still prefer my old tagline: "The universe is a figment of its own imagination."
 
5:24 AM
@chris Yea. On my first semester, I had a great teacher, after that, I had a crappy teacher, and we're talkin really crappy.
@JerryCoffin Nah, the universe is too busy imagining us
 
@GamesBrainiac Yeah, I have absolutely no clue how any of my future profs are, but first year first term is pretty good so far.
 
@GamesBrainiac We are part of the (imaginary) universe.
 
@JerryCoffin Are we ?
 
@GamesBrainiac I imagine so, at any rate.
 
@chris Yea, enjoy it white it lasts. Trust me, by the time you're half way through uni, you;ll (hopefully) hate it just as much as the rest of us do
@JerryCoffin The universe is conspiring against us, don't believe anything it says :P
I have to finish a project that involves marrying google drive with google app engine, to make a new sort of app
The documentation for it sucks.
 
5:28 AM
A crapp?
 
I'm incredibly drunk.
 
No, you're not.
 
Yes, I am.
 
You can type.
 
Because I have more skills than you.
 
5:29 AM
Because you don't know what being drunk means.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Master of the Drunken Key Stroke
 
Oh dear.
 
@GamesBrainiac At least the content gets more interesting. I know the work load quintuples. Right now is barely anything when it comes down to it and it's a ton compared to CS.
 
Kid, you don't know what being drunk means.
 
I have a p good idea
 
5:32 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I think this is what they're asking.
Oh, I guess I should add: definitely NSFW.
Well, I guess I should go try to sleep too. Later all.
 
The strangest part of that video is that Jerry probably watched it once.
 
5:48 AM
morning
 
6:08 AM
Wow, i still use C++ like "C with classes" (thats C++ around 1990). That works, all this ugly unreadable smart pointers insaneness make me sick. — Lothar Sep 26 '09 at 17:24
This might be one of the best comments I've found on SO. heh
 
LOOK AT ME IM A BAD PROGRAMMER OHOHOH
 
Google Drive API is so friggin annoying
I just can't friggin get it to work
 
JBL
6:55 AM
> I love low level programming and optimizing things for speed and concurrency.
Because f**k you, low level must be crappy/obfuscated code.
 
JBL
7:06 AM
Mmh, I'd like to ask for advices. I thought of buying C++ Templates: The Complete Guide, but the SO list mentions it is "pre-C++11". Were the changes brought by C++11 too significant that they made this book kind of obsolete and I should consider another book ?
 
if you want, you may send me the cash instead
if I'm not mistaken, a significant chunk of that book concerns expression templates -- those techniques are still in use, though the new move semantics provide alternative ways to accomplish similar stuff
the majority of what's in there still holds
 
JBL
Thanks !
 
you're welcome
 
@JBL It's not obsolete. Yeah, C++11 changes the picture (for advanced TMP) but the mechanics are very very well explained. I like the book. And I read it only this year
@MarcClaesen I don't see how you can conflate expression templates with move semantics. Lazy evaluation and expression transformations opens up a whole different dimension of optimizations
@GamesBrainiac Woot. Classical victim logic
 
7:24 AM
isn't one of the key benefits of expression templates the fact unnecessary copies are avoided?
 
JBL
@sehe Thanks a lot ! I may get it then. If the basics do not change, then it's okay for the moment. I'll get into advanced stuff later, and we'll see then :)
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
Mawning
 
if
struct node{
int data;
struct node *next;
};
struct q{
struct node *st1;
struct node *st2;
};
then what does struct node** top=&q->st1; mean...
 
user1804599
@blackbee Indent or get out.
 
7:27 AM
@sehe I don't know all the details about expression templates, so am I wrong to assume that avoiding temporaries is the key advantage of expression templates?
 
user1804599
struct node** top = &q->st1; means that your code is bad and that you should feel bad.
 
that's how I understood it, anyways
 
i found it here.. geeksforgeeks.org/queue-using-stacks just cannot figure it out
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
 
7:29 AM
y do i see myself !! :O
 
user1804599
@blackbee It takes the address of q->st1 and stores it in a variable named node.
 
user1804599
But it's in C, so I have no idea why you ask it here, in the C++ room.
 
because i dont see a c room....
nyways...
so each time the stack (represented by st1 here) has a new value pushed, the adress of q->st1 is updated...
 
user1804599
So if you have problems with your teeth, and you don't see a dentist, you go to an oculist?
 
:D :D well.... i have no answer to that.. but if there is someone who studied that medical science that is somewhat related to a dentist then probably yes
 
7:34 AM
@MarcClaesen Yes you are. It's avoiding eager evaluation. That includes the temporaries they create. Look at it this way: expensive_t a { /*something*/ }, b { /*something*/). auto c = (a * 2 + b * 2) / 2; might be simplified to a+b before even commencing evaluation
 
@not-rightfold I usually see an ocultist. They cook me a nice potion with raven feathers and toad eggs after which I'm good to go
 
:) my thought exactly
 
pointers are both in c and c++ ... i didn't ask about the whole code ... i just asked about pointers... :)
 
user1804599
Pointers are also in C#, so you could've asked in the C# room too.
 
@blackbee and C#! please go ask in the C# room
 
7:35 AM
I wonder whether toad eggs are delicious ...
 
@sehe thanks for the explanation, I'll need to read up on that when I find time
 
6 mins ago, by not-rightfold
@blackbee It takes the address of q->st1 and stores it in a variable named node.
 
user1804599
The code would almost be valid C# too. :P
 
^ there's your answer. This and there's a site for Q&A: Stack Overflow
@Telkitty猫咪咪 only one way to find out...
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 if you want I can ask my ocultist to cook a batch for you
 
7:37 AM
u see.. i am not dumb as i used to be.. if i could ask a question i would have posted it as a question.. but just after the three days of my joining at SO.. they took away my right to ask question... undemocratic website
 
No toads around here, please send over some toad eggs for my birthday next week, thank you :p
 
JBL
@blackbee Or you asked badly.
 
> "help, I'm trapped in a backtick`" lol edit
 
sure, do you want some bat blood dipping sauce? :P
 
@blackbee Oh, it's the other way around here. At my age, you can sense you're starting to go senile :(
@blackbee That's not the definition of undemocratic. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/86997/…
 
user1804599
7:39 AM
@Xeo The latter.
 
watever... ok, cancel undemocratic.. replace with rude
 
user1804599
<|> and many from Parsec aren't the same as those from Applicative.
 
:) that's a lot better. Appreciation where it's due (by the nice rep for 3 days of SO <whistle/>)
 
user1804599
> u see.. i am not dumb …
 
user1804599
> they took away my right to ask question
 
user1804599
7:41 AM
There’s a reason for that: your questions were bad.
 
@blackbee You know, the objective of the site is to share knowledge and provide answers, not to pat each other on the back or generally provide mental support. We're not here to waste time, even if it means that some people can't be helped.
 
JBL
@blackbee So, a website that rejects you because you didn't follow its rules is considered rude now ?
 
The site would stop working if there was such an obligation.
 
user1804599
The question banned should be chat banned too.
 
> A fool asks more questions in an hour than a wise man can answer in seven years
 
user1804599
7:42 AM
How about wise fools?
 
@not-rightfold He's not, currently, QB I suppose. I'd expect he talks about >1y ago
 
user1804599
How about wise women?
 
@not-rightfold Dunno, they hide in caves
 
how about tall midgets
 
@not-rightfold proving their existence requires the assumption of a god
 
7:43 AM
@not-rightfold how about them?
 
yesh thank you, like u people were born with c++ codes imprinted in ur brains....
 
user1804599
Argrgh.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 they're delicious. No bat sauce, though
 
user1804599
I want to enter normal mode in the command editor in Vim.
 
@blackbee code is a mass noun
@not-rightfold q: (from normal mode)
 
JBL
7:44 AM
@blackbee It's well known that everyone starts with C++ code imprinted in his brain. Look how fucked up mankind looks like now.
 
@sehe the male specie or the female specie?
 
user1804599
@sehe You’ll receive your reward about right now.
 
user1804599
@sehe THANK YOU SEHE
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 ouch. the ignorance is palpable in that sentence
Sep 19 at 10:27, by not-rightfold
@sehe I can do Emacs editing in Vim :commandline. :P
^ Apparently that wasn't so nice after all ?
 
user1804599
@sehe Well, I can do control+A and control+E and that's about it.
 
7:46 AM
Sep 19 at 10:28, by sehe
I think I can too, but I'm too lame to remember those keys. I'll just do q: whenever the commands get >6 chars. Which is <1% of the time
The reward was a bit late. Also: geez, don't you remember trivia these days. You're getting old!
@StackedCrooked good morning BOfH sysadmin-malgré-lui!
 
morning
what shall I break today?
 
a leg
(inb4 crushing guilt trip if something happens to F.R. today) Oh, I'll just plead the idiomatic usage! Hals- und Beinbruch!
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked blackbee's neck.
 
@MRS1367 you just need 1 more gold badge now. 457 is prime, 13 is prime, 1367 is prime... 4 isn't
 
user1804599
@sehe He doesn't have four gold badges. :V
 
7:54 AM
Why is this question getting so many downvotes? (I've seen much worse code.) — sehe 5 secs ago
@not-rightfold Damn, silver then. Too late to edit now
@not-rightfold nah. That would be rude. Or: that would be rude. Or: that would be rude.
Still no new questions. I think I'll ask on Meta Stack Overflow. The tag is broken.
 
Morning.
 
Morning
 
user1804599
@sehe Ask a question on Stack Overflow.
 
I don't have any
 
user1804599
Ik wil een broodje gezond.
 
7:58 AM
Ik wil een gezond broodje.
 
Ik wil een ongezond broodje.
 
@sehe lol, google is just so frustrating. Its like they don't want us to use all their dics and give them nothing in return.
 
@StackedCrooked "Bezoedelingen" woord in jok
@GamesBrainiac But at least they provide spillchuck!
 
@sehe -> ok :)
 
@MRS1367 :)
> "I'm the Philosopher until someone hands me a burrito." "Privacy Opinions"
 
8:09 AM
burrito?
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold Why?
 
user1804599
@Xeo Because you rarely need Applicative's <|> and many in Parsec, IME. :V
 
user1804599
Parsec's are most useful. You can, of course, do renaming imports if you need both.
 
Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. Philosophy is distinguished from other ways of addressing such problems by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on rational argument. In more casual speech, by extension, "philosophy" can refer to "the most basic beliefs, concepts, and attitudes of an individual or group". The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom". The introduction of t...
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold But shouldn't they be exactly the same (functionality wise), except for associativity and precedence in <|>'s case?
 
8:14 AM
@sehe -> What's the meaning of burrito?
 
burrito is the physical manifestation of happiness
 
tnx @MarcClaesen
 
or, before someone complains ...
template<typename FavFood>
FavFood is the physical manifestation of happiness
 
user1804599
@Xeo Dunno.
 
user1804599
8:16 AM
Maybe.
 
JBL
Now I'm hungry and want burritos. Well done.
 
@MooingDuck One no longer has to choose between robots and turtles: Robot Turtles :D
 
Xeo
> This combinator is defined equal to the mplus member of the MonadPlus class and the (Control.Applicative.<|>) member of Control.Applicative.Alternative.
 
@JBL Bring me one? I never tried one
@Xeo Sounds like a disclaimer in an IBM manual
 
JBL
@sehe You should try !
 
8:18 AM
> Robot Turtles is a board game you play with your favorite 3-8 year old. It sneakily teaches programming fundamentals.
I must have this.
 
JBL
But you're quite far.
 
user image
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@JBL In a land far, far away
 
@sehe -> tnx :)
 
lol
 
Xeo
Eh... there's <$, but not the flipped $>. :|
 
JBL
8:24 AM
@sehe Added to my pile of "Why I hate web developers".
Why the hell does this say MSVC supports list initialization but std::vector<int> vector{1,2,3,4}; doesn't compile... ?
 
Xeo
CTP, '13 RC?
 
JBL
Sorry, VS2012 with November '12 update.
 
Xeo
> 11.0 nov'12
Yep
@R.MartinhoFernandes After playing around with Parsec, I think I can see how parsers would work as Arrows.
 
JBL
Oh, so apparently, they do support list initialization. But not for vector (well, and maybe other things).
 
The Haskellians report feeling so vindicated
 
Xeo
8:35 AM
CTP doesn't have the updated stdlib
 
JBL
Bleh...
 
@JBL They support the language feature, but the library changes are still underway
 
Xeo
2013 RC has it
 
user1804599
Yum.
 
user1804599
Popcorn.
 
user1804599
8:39 AM
@JBL I hate you too.
 
@sehe I think we're on the verge of choosing dropbox for development instead.
 
JBL
@not-rightfold I'm sorry you took it personally (and that's an over-generalization of course). Still, do you like other webdevs ?
 
user1804599
No; I like nobody.
 
JBL
Excellent.
 
@not-rightfold But we like you!
 
user1804599
8:41 AM
Perfect.
 
We don't particularly like your ongoing stream of new languages, though ;)
 
@GamesBrainiac Sigh.
 
I use Dropbox as a backup solution :)
 
Xeo
@GamesBrainiac My condolences.
 
One day I'll probably forget my password and curse this decision.
 
Xeo
8:43 AM
reset password :P
 
user1804599
@GamesBrainiac lolwot
 
@GamesBrainiac Yeah, you tell 'em, boy! Shove their dics [sic] right back into their faces. Ugly Google, that only takes and wants nothing in return.
Oh Wait
 
user1804599
Use version control.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^^
Virgin control. Maybe you can do that on dropbox
 
user1804599
Virgin Cutting System
 
8:45 AM
@FredOverflow I like it. It's like a kaleidoscope for the lazy
@FredOverflow One day, someone will email you your password, and you curse your decision
 
The email address I used for Dropbox probably doesn't exist anymore :)
 
user1804599
It does.
 
Who said they would use that email address. After all, they'd have your docs
 
user1804599
Maybe your account doesn't exist anymore.
 
pedantry. I've found the right room
 
Xeo
8:47 AM
@sehe I always do that by accident. Now I finally know what it's for!
 
user1804599
Subway Ticker is great font.
 
@Xeo Most important thing to know: C-c to leave command window without issueing an Ex command
 
Xeo
I just do :q, but good to know.
 
@not-rightfold I assume you're (ab)using this for your (patent pending) marquee thingie?
 
user1804599
@sehe :D
 
8:49 AM
@Xeo ah. never even considered that would work. Then, ZZ or ZQ should work too. (checks) Nope.
 
Xeo
It's like vim inside of vim!
 
@sehe :(
@Xeo q::q!
 
Inconsistency is the bane of all vi's
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes yea
 
Should have been q::p, really
 
8:51 AM
Are there any OpenDocument spec experts in here?
 
Yup. 7 of them. Welcome to Jannah
 
lol
Do I detect sarcasm? :)
 
You tell me. Do you detect any?
 
I do!
 
Okay then.
@wilx You do.
 
8:53 AM
lol
 
Its so much easier to work on devices than on servers :(
 
Really?
 
Yeah. If only servers could be made into devices, somehow
 
What devices?
 
@sehe kek.
 
8:55 AM
Lately I've started to call everything a device.
Like, food holding device => plate.
 
Do any of you use two monitors? Is it really worth it? Or do you just have the second monitor for The Lounge? :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I dunno. I guess we're left to our own devices there
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Yes and yes
Why "or"?
Sometimes I even wish I had 3!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's really... a bit juvenile. That, and you're drinking beer. Are you living a late college period?
 
@FredOverflow It is worth it for debugging GUI apps. Other than that, I have always thought the benefits are marginal.
 
8:56 AM
@FredOverflow you bough 16:9 IIRC, which is dual setup is less fun, but still it's not a question; one screen is not enough
@Xeo +1
 
@FredOverflow Yes, yes and yes.
 
@sehe hahaha
 
Xeo
I use it to gather all distracting things on one monitor
 
@BartekBanachewicz I can always buy other monitors, it's not like I'm married to my 16:9. I've been flirting with the Asus PB248Q lately...
 
@sehe I haven't drank beer in months.
 
8:57 AM
But you have referenced the concept more than 3 times this months. That's close!
 
@FredOverflow IMHO dual- or tri- monitor setups are funkiest if they're all the same
precisely the reason I bought two at once
 
@FredOverflow I keep my text editor on one and a terminal emulator on one, on top of all the other stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes terminal device emulator*
 
It's a program.
 
I was just thinking "Why should I buy one expensive large monitor, when I can get two medium sized monitors on eBay for like a third of the price?"
 
8:58 AM
My editor is (most often) in my terminal emulating software
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't know how to do this.
 
@FredOverflow Good thinking.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess not.
 
You can't just tack "device" after the normal name of the thing. You have to replace the name with its purpose.
 
purposeful-device?
@BartekBanachewicz I have the Dell U2412M at work, by the way. I often get headaches. Not sure if it's the monitor.
 
8:59 AM
BTW, what the hell is about Virgin Control
 

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