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2:00 AM
the only reason I bought Starcraft 2.
 
I didn't like the game very much though.
I liked Starcraft much better.
 
I hated WC3.
too much micro and armour types and shit.
 
Micro is something I absolutely suck at.
 
a lot of the stuff just plain didn't work towards my "game fantasy"
if I'm a horde of rampaging orcs, why the fuck am I off killing these little turtle things instead of rampaging over my enemy's base?
 
Ah. that.
Yeah they wanted to change the defensive playing style that many people had.
And force them to come out.
I didn't play it much though.
 
2:06 AM
I can't multitask and i have shitty mouse cursor precision. Guess what you need to play sc2?
=.=;
 
not the custom maps.
 
I still play dota with wc3
 
I wish I could slow down the game at times.
 
eh, I never liked dota.
 
Sometimes I want to stop and think.
But SC2 doesn't let you do that.
 
2:07 AM
If you can cope with the hatred. its fun
 
the custom maps I play the most are Nexus Squadron Strike and Mafia
and neither of them need multitasking or cursor precision
 
i should have specified ladder
 
screw ladder
that shit sucks
 
If you suck it does I guess?
 
well, I was in Master's league
that's obviously not as suck as a pro but still top 2%.
 
2:09 AM
@StackedCrooked Just play 4v4 . Even my friend who is mentally challenged is in Diamon there ^^
 
Masters? gdi... the best i could do was plat (and i didnt stay there very long)
 
besides
ladder is about memorizing the map advantages/disadvantages, and remembering to macro, realistically.
 
I started in diamond and slowly worked my way down to silver. Not played for two years though
 
you don't need much of a useful strategy to get into Masters.
I got into Diamond by playing nothing but 2port banshee.
 
Which races you play?
 
2:11 AM
I played Terran.
 
my PC can't handle SC2 =/
 
I played SC with Terran and Zerg a lot.
Rarely with Protoss.
But SC1 Terran were weak.
 
Oooh.. look what gold I stumbled over ... landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=26669 MARIO IS SATANIC
 
tell that to the Emperor
 
@nightcracker try in 2d ?
@StackedCrooked When I used to play. Always Protos
 
2:13 AM
but in any case
the ladder of Starcraft 2 sucked pretty hard.
HoTS is a lot better, I think, but I never really played in HoTS.
the custom maps were the only reason to get the game.
the maps were terrible, the balance was terrible, the cheeses excessive (like pylon block on Zerg's ramp)
 
cheeses?
 
you know, cheese strategies?
 
What kind of cheese
 
I stopped playing SC in 2003.
 
2:15 AM
a cheese is basically some strategy that is ridiculously powerful, if not flat out game ending
 
but trivially preventable if the opponent sees it coming.
and puts you very far behind if scouted.
so it's basically a massive gamble, as opposed to any sort of interesting skill check really
 
Like.. making 50 Battlecruisers
 
I see.
 
well, not really.
the later in the game you are, the much harder it is to stop your opponent finding it.
 
2:16 AM
Or.. like I once did with a mate.. Dark Templars and Nukes only rush
 
not to mention that he can just walk up and kill you.
DT rush can be a cheese if you do it very hardcore
 
Would you define a Probe rush as Cheese?
 
I want to paly a team match where it's 3 on 3
 
pretty sure that probe rushing is cheese
 
And where my only job is to be Terran, make ghosts, and build multiple nukes
 
2:17 AM
I remember similar strategies from AoEII. Like fishboat-based Imperial Age rush
 
I once played a kid in SC2 who cannon rushed me. But I cannon rushed him better :D
 
lol
 
So he freaked out and flamed OMG PLAY NORMAL YOU FAGGOT
irony overload
 
pretty rare for people to get cannonrushed now
everyone knows to scout it.
 
A cheese is more or less any strategy that falls into the category of "if you fuck this up you're ~100% screwed"
 
2:18 AM
There was an AoE player that managed to pull of a monk rush.
 
gotta go. grab food and programm "card wars" test. cya later
 
@Borgleader Nah, it also has to be primarily based on whether or not you get scouted.
if it's a fair test of skill, then that's just being all in.
 
maybe i should have said "if it fails you're screwed?" that would account for "it gets scouted"
point is, it's a really high risk strat from which you cannot recover if it fails
 
nah, because it doesn't differentiate an all-in from a cheese.
 
Is cheesing common in expert games?
 
2:20 AM
no.
 
I guess not.
 
it is done from time to time because if nobody ever cheesed, everybody would leave themselves open to cheese, and therefore people cheese to take advantage of that.
so some level of cheese is necessary, as it were.
but most games are not decided by cheese
aside from anything else
the crowd do not like to see lots of cheese
 
some pros will cheese in tournaments when they are ahead.
because if it works -> easy win, if it doesnt you still somewhat put your opponent off guard or something
 
you can't be an expert player based on a bunch of cheese strategies
and players who cheese repeatedly, their opponents just learn this and play safe.
but the odd cheese can work.
and the line between a cheese and an all-in can be flexible sometimes
for example, a cannon rushing a Zerg's natural is normal play if Zerg goes hatch first
but cannon rushing the main is a bit of a cheese
 
Cheese?
 
2:36 AM
...
scroll up.
 
user1804599
Rust is neat.
 
Rust is neat!
 
you know, I seem to recall a slight look at Rust, and I don't recall it being anything less than shit
 
Oh, it’s pretty bad too.
 
2:42 AM
Rust is niet.
 
Нет
 
user1804599
@DeadMG Of course; it's not C++ or Wide.
 
Xeo
Man, time was flying while playing
 
@not-rightfold Ooh, what’s this Wide thing?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Də
 
user1804599
2:46 AM
@minitech Another bad language.
 
user1804599
All languages except Haskell, Elixir and Python are bad.
 
It's worse than HTML.
 
user1804599
And to some extend except D and C#.
 
VB.NET is also very good
Ooh, what’s this Elixir thing?
 
user1804599
@minitech Another nice language.
 
2:47 AM
Oh, it’s like Ruby but with sanity?
 
user1804599
It's like Erlang but with sanity.
 
You can't add sanity to Ruby and still have any Ruby left.
 
It’s like a Haskell that I can read
 
user1804599
It's not.
 
user1804599
It's like an Erlang that you can read.
 
user1804599
2:48 AM
It's impure unlike Haskell.
 
I can read Erlang.
 
user1804599
You can't. Nobody can read that abomination of a syntax.
 
I haven’t used Erlang in forever, though! Time to look at some things.
 
user1804599
 
It’s like Perl.
I forgot I knew Perl.
 
user1804599
2:50 AM
No, it's not. It's like Prolog.
 
user1804599
Elixir solves all problems presented in the video.
 
No, I didn’t mean Erlang is like Perl as a language. I meant I forgot I even learned it at one point.
Erlang is really strange but very fun.
 
Has anybody else followed questions chains regarding etymology on English SE?
 
@minitech A language I am constructing.
 
It will provide a wide range of features.
 
3:03 AM
@Pawnguy7 Er, sometimes?
@DeadMG Link?
 
my website sucks, I know.
 
Your website is actually great, I appear to be able to use it properly without JavaScript.
 
frankly, I have no idea, that's bootstrap's problem :P
 
Now the language, on the other hand ;)
Oh, Bootstrap? Why? Eh, I don’t care
 
@DeadMG Not requiring JS is a good thing
 
3:06 AM
yeah, I get that.
but if Bootstrap depended on JS, there wouldn't be much I could do about it
my website's terrible enough even with Bootstrap
 
It actually depends on some js, but not all components do.
 
fuckshitballs, I'm so sick :(
 
Bootstrap JS is entirely optional.
 
see a doctor srsly
 
He knows why.
 
3:13 AM
@nightcracker I did. Twice. It wasn't of much assistance.
 
I need to fix an abomination of an importer script that's 2000 lines long and lkajsdflansnalsv
 
@DeadMG are you still updating your articles?
 
@StackedCrooked Nope. I don't remember the last time I wrote a new article.
 
I am not well too - but it is only because it is that time of the month for me
 
I'd forgotten I ever wrote any.
 
3:19 AM
Just noticed the System Architecture section which I hadn't seen before.
 
or did you mean those tutorials?
 
yeap
I haven't worked on them in a little while
not that long though.
I think I'd be more inclined to spend more time on them if they got more viewership
 
Eh, rings are not modes.
 
but right now they feel more like I just wanted to masturbate about how much I knew.
 
3:21 AM
Rings are in the mode.
 
@CatPlusPlus Why not? It's not called "user mode" and "kernel mode" for nothing.
 
I am going to write a game: cat++ and food delivery person in which the gamer must prevent a delivery person from getting to cat++ in order to prevent the person eaten by cat++
 
> The general advantage of user-mode is that, except operating system bugs, no application can bring down the system, because the only way to access any resource is through the operating system.
Finally I know.
 
know what?
 
I always wondered. If I deref NULL then my app crashes but the OS stays alive.
 
3:25 AM
when you de-reference NULL there is a hardware interrupt and the CPU switches into kernel mode and runs the handler the kernel has installed.
the kernel handler will do things like call signal handler/raise structured exception.
 
@DeadMG Modes fundamentally change how CPU behaves, rings only define privileges.
 
I'm really lacking knowledge when it comes to system architecture.
 
Besides Intel says so. :v
 
So these articles are welcome.
 
@StackedCrooked Well, the general rule of user-space is that you have to go begging to the kernel for everything.
CPU time, memory space, everything.
and if your app fails, the kernel decides what to do with you.
 
3:28 AM
It's bit more complicated than that with microkernels.
 
I thought those designs died out
 
NT is a hybrid.
 
Hurd is also IIRC.
 
besides, even if the kernel has parts of it's implementation in userspace, that's still going to be true for all of the other programs written in userspace, so it's a pretty good rule.
 
Hurd is a pure microkernel.
 
3:29 AM
that tutorial needs revising anyway
since I would argue now that half the benefit of userspace is much easier development compared to kernelspace
 
Kernel serves userspace.
 
I stopped at "SHUT THE FUCK UP", even if Linus had anything useful to say I wouldn't put up with all the shit he wraps it in to get to it.
 
What happens if kernel mode derefs NULL?
@Borgleader It's a good read I think
 
I'd read an ego-free version.
 
You didn't read it so how do you know?
:D
 
3:45 AM
He's unable to speak without displaying his infinitely massive ego. Plus the STFU was an early warning sign of the "im superior" shitstorm to come
 
@StackedCrooked BSOD, give or take.
but the kernel's interrupt handlers can still act on kernel-mode faults
it's just that there's not much way of the kernel fixing whatever went wrong to cause that.
@Borgleader It wasn't "I'm superior", it's "You're inferior", which isn't quite the same thing.
 
@DeadMG I find "You're inferior" even worse =/
 
Mauro was being an ass.
 
It might not be a BSOD.
 
@Borgleader Depends on who or what "you" are inferior to.
 
3:47 AM
Kernel won't get access violation like an ordinary app.
 
An instant reboot perhaps?
That happened to me a few times when I had faulty drivers.
 
No, reboot happens on bugcheck.
If you have it enabled in the system settings.
Unless CPU triple-faults, but I'd imagine that's rare on a mature system.
Yeah it could happen if IDT were corrupted, but null deref won't do anything like that.
 
the real issue isn't whether or not the kernel can try to recover from the fault, it's what the fuck the kernel is going to do to effectively achieve that.
I don't see how the kernel can continue with invalidated variants any more than user space.
 
Maybe it's a good SO question.
 
I guess the fault could be in some other kernel-mode component that's not the kernel itself, like a driver.
 
3:53 AM
__NOTOC__ An oops is a deviation from correct behavior of the Linux kernel which produces a certain error log. The better-known kernel panic condition results from many kinds of oops, but others may allow continued operation with compromised reliability. The term does not stand for anything, other than that it is a simple mistake. When the kernel detects a problem, it prints an oops message and kills any offending process. The message is used by Linux kernel engineers to debug the condition which created the oops and fix the programming error which caused it. The official Linux Kernel...
Log the error, move on.
Eh, fucking Drupal shit.
 
Drupal was created by a Belgian dude.
 
Drupal is part of a secret conspiracy to make everything miserable.
 
> On 31 March 2008, Dries launched Mollom, a service dedicated to stopping website spam: "Mollom's purpose is to dramatically reduce the effort of keeping your site clean and the quality of your content high. Currently, Mollom is a spam-killing one-two punch combination of a state-of-the-art spam filter and CAPTCHA server." Over 59,000 websites are protected by the Mollom service,[12] including all of Netlog's messages.[13]
I used to work for Netlog back then.
Lol it used to be so big and now it's nothing.
 
4:11 AM
Woah. It's been a year for me in Stack Overflow. I survived! :)
 
@MarkGarcia No -- you've died and didn't notice. Based on the number of crappy questions, I'm afraid this isn't heaven though...
 
@JerryCoffin I see. I think this is purgatory we are in. Guiding lost souls, and that of trolls.
:)
And by "purgatory", many are purged.
 
Lady Telkitty shall be here soon to take you away.
 
Hellpurge everyone not in Lounge.
I had 20GB of space on my VM drive when I started, now I have 5.
I love working with big databases.
 
4:20 AM
@CatPlusPlus 15G is quite a lot of data.
 
I have to fix image import from one shitty CMS to another shitty CMS, but the image data itself is too big to download.
FUN
 
Money.
 
The current iteration of the script managed to import 2910 images.
 
How is it too big to download?
 
There's about 100000 in the original database.
Well, it's not too big, but it's painful to move around, and dunno about client's bandwidth and shit.
 
4:22 AM
hey guys
this robin scheduling has been hard..
//arrival p1:0 burst: p1:7
// p2:2 p2:4
// p3:4 p3:1
// p4:5 p4:4
time quantum is 1
 
And this import script is shit.
60kB of code.
 
I want to put a "XXXXXXth to earn the Yearling badge." in my profile page. Too bad the badge history isn't helping. :(
 
@StackedCrooked Hmm....my "pictures" directory is 391 GB.
 
I thought he was referring to a database containing textual records.
My pictures directory is about the size.
 
@MarkGarcia Gonna be tough to get that right -- they're awarded annually, so you'd need to do some fairly careful filtering to get the number of users instead of number of times awarded.
@StackedCrooked Yeah -- he mentioned "image" immediately after that.
 
4:34 AM
@JerryCoffin Tricky means SQL. I'll search or create a query for that.
 
@MarkGarcia Yup -- but the least I heard, the data site was badly handicapped, so queries time out after only a second or two (or something like that).
 
I think constructor defaults should be inherited.
 
Heh. Things are superbreaking on Stack Overflow.
(Can’t vote to close)
(Can’t really vote to delete)
 
Same here.
 
4
Q: Something went very wrong deleting this

minitechSorry for the lame description. These revisions show something a little strange: There was no delete button in the flags list; I went to the question and clicked delete, and a blank error box appeared; I refreshed and tried twice more, and then opened it in a new tab and finally deleted it (it...

But yeah, it’s the same for everyone as far as I know.
 
4:44 AM
Pretty good time for spams, especially for that google, amazon make money guy.
 
Well, I can delete. After refreshing a lot.
Except the spam flags disappear. Yeah.
Should make a flagging chat room or something
 
lol. I imagine users flagging messages inside the room.
 
It's funny how Python and Ruby are so often mentioned together.
 
@StackedCrooked ...and you've just propagated the proto-meme.
 
Oh crap!
 
5:02 AM
@JerryCoffin How was your flight?
 
@Borgleader Pretty uneventful. Arrived about 10 minutes late, but that's about it.
It is nice to be home, even if I have to go back to CA for work on Monday.
 
So you have to take another flight tomorrow?
 
@Borgleader Monday morning.
 
@StackedCrooked The good and the bad.
 
5:18 AM
@CatPlusPlus Python, Ruby and PHP: The good, the bad, and the ugly (you had to know that was coming, right?)
 
I thought about that, but "ugly" is such an understatement when it comes to PHP.
Ahahaha fuck, whoever was doing the database import copied only part of site images over to the staging server.
I WONDER WHY THERE ARE IMAGES MISSING
 
ugly is what you get when you apply log* to PHP
 
I don't think log_infinity exists.
 
@CatPlusPlus Because CMS really stands for Content Mangling System.
 
Crap Multiplication System
 
5:23 AM
Clientele Murdering System
 
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM drupal.file_managed; -- 2910
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM drupal_scratchpad.file_managed; -- 110566
YUP I FIXED IT
Fuck everything.
 
In soviet russia, everything fucks you
 
Images are still packing up, so I guess I'll have a break.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'd have thought a cat would be a little more .... cautious with phrases like "I fixed it".
 
I FIXED IT I DONT CARE
 
5:24 AM
You working from home cat?
 
No, I'm in the office at 7:30AM Sunday.
 
Not sure if sarcasm, or crunch time before a deadline.
 
@Borgleader As I recall, this is the project his (former) coworker fucked up, then quit -- leaving Cat something like 3 days to un-fuck it.
 
5:26 AM
Oh.... wow that sucks. He just ragequit!?
 
Boss is driving up to the client on like Wednesday to do training and shit.
@Borgleader Complicated.
I'm gonna invent myself a new job title. "Emergency Code Medical Technician"
Or maybe "project"
 
Haha, you'll be the dr.house of software disease
minus the hot assistants
 
@Borgleader ...and (hopefully) the limp.
 
I'd take the limp if it came with hot assistants in the package
 
5:31 AM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :commissar: all of those idiots.
> Right now consumers have control over whether they receive interest-based ads through the Digital Advertising Alliance’s self-regulatory program.
Fuck You And Die.
FREE TO MAKE
YOUR OWN
PRIVACY CHOICES
With straight face.
Ugh.
 
@Borgleader I really don't know how to react with that.
 
I read it 4 times and i have no clue what he wants
 
What platform are you using? Windows, MFC, QT? — Jake Lin 1 min ago
YOU ARE A GENIUS USER 749786
It says "html" right fucking there.
Twice.
 
shit i cant even vtc because SO is broken
 
5:42 AM
room topic changed to Lounge<FUBAR++>: Your reading comprehension is FUBAR. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-questions]
 
Awww you made a topic about me, I'm flattered
 
It's a theme of past few days
> field_data_field_date.field_date_value: no type for Schema type datetime:normal.
Drupal :argh:
 
0
Q: DEAR YARRAK SUCKING AMERICANS, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, I *MEAN* BUSINESS.

user2714895You are about to be provided with information to start your own Google. Some people posted comments and said this can not be done because google has 1 million servers and we do not. The truth is, google has those many servers for trolling purposes (e.g. google +, google finance, youtube the ban...

The fuck.
 
Ohaohahohaoh target="_blank" in AD 2013
 
He picked a really good time to post.
 
5:49 AM
Ugh again with this.
 
Can't VTC and flag it. :(
 
Who cares, chat works fine.
 
@minitech Still there? Please vaporize this question.
 
~white cat pounces on the yellow duckling ... nom nom nom~
 
5:50 AM
Why can't you guys VTC?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Line numbers are worse. :P
@Rapptz Stack Overflow is broken.
1 hour ago, by minitech
Heh. Things are superbreaking on Stack Overflow.
 
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Q: Can't close questions all of a sudden

LBTPretty straightforward - within the last few minutes I can't close any questions. I click the "Vote to Close" button after selecting a reason, and it shows as "Closing...", but it never closes. If I refresh the browser, I see a red error box saying "an error has occurred, please try again." Als...

 
because we've decided closing at all is too impolite
 
lol. Right-to-left override Unicode character actually affects paths in Windows Explorer.
 
6:13 AM
@MarkGarcia Which question?
Oh, that question? Thanks. I saw it in the questions list, but animuson had already taken care of it by that time.
 
@minitech That. Still, this is a really good time for him to spam. I hope they get it fixed ASAP.
 
I'm missing out on free spam flags :( They need to fix this shit now!
 
@MarkGarcia I’m not too hopeful. New York’s asleep, no?
 
2:15 AM. Courtesy of Google. :)
 
6:29 AM
17G images_20130825.tar.bz2
Fun.
616M tomcat/images49.zip is the previous one :lol:
 
6:50 AM
@ScottW <3
 
7:06 AM
@CatPlusPlus Your porn stash or what?
Good morning.
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
Can you place a const static of a class in a global namespace and define it there too? (Header File)
 
Oh my, a working SSHd for Windows.
 
@ThePhD: class Foo { } static const var; I believe.
 
7:19 AM
Hm.
 
Correction: struct Foo { Foo() {} } static const var;
 
@ThePhD Code?
Ugh that archive is still unpacking.
 
chat y u no onebox reddit?
 
Because reddit sucks.
 
[–]lacosaes0 -34 points 1 day ago* (11|44)
It is widely known that C++ proponents developed Stockholm Syndrome. Most of the people in the software development industry know, however, that you should try to avoid C++.
 

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