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2:00 PM
@TonyTheLion There's a Polish word "Turpizm" for anticipation of ugliness
 
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@ThePhD Why is it inconsistent, though?
 
@xanatos Ah, I see, C# makes it illegal to use ^= true unless threadAlive is of type System.Boolean. That means you redefined the question (assuming threadAlive is bool) as well as reduced the scope to 1/3 (only answering for C#) — sehe 11 secs ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No I'm not. Or to be more accurate, I was looking at that before I paused work on Wide.
 
that C#.
 
2:02 PM
=[
 
@DeadMG Well, I meant past that way of thinking.
 
I'll write tests when I have something worth testing.
 
@ThePhD Like that "to lower" function?
(you still haven't explained what is inconsistent about it)
 
Maybe.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like nothing that is in his code right now, apparently.
@ThePhD that's a monad!
 
2:04 PM
@JerryCoffin :( but it would be so awesome
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, to be fair, it's a lot harder to test the output of something so complex as a native code compiler than a to lower function.
 
@BartekBanachewicz why is he here ....
as in his picture T_T
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf to show his tags
@EiyrioüvonKauyf what?
lol.
 
@DeadMG Other compiler writers do just fine vOv.
 
I only meant that it was more difficult, not impossible.
 
2:07 PM
And by "just fine" I meant "no big trouble, really"
 
Well @EtiennedeMartel the shipment to Canada worked and they didn't seem to charge me an arm or a leg.
 
@ThePhD the "anon" one?
 
It was quite fast too.
:D
 
:| jelly
15% taxes or so on an intern pay for federal taxes alone is not fun
:(
 
2:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ISTR that your suggested approach was something along the lines of, "If the compilation process produces code, then you assume the generated code is correct"?
 
@Xeo more reddit / tumblr; bahahah
 
Wow.
Google filters names so that I can't pick anything that "doesn't read like a name"
Fuck you, Google.
Un fucking believable.
 
@ThePhD That's the primary reason for me not to be on Google+
 
I didn't choose to be on Google+.
 
Google+ is a desert wasteland
 
2:14 PM
They just... erected an account for me.
 
@TonyTheLion no there's one thing
there's TCS which has CS talks
 
@ThePhD What?
 
besides that :|
 
@ThePhD I also hate that on at least 6 occasions I've had to be very careful about not "accidentally" upgrading my accound to Google+
 
2:14 PM
I hate that shit where every time you visit youtube they're like "ER MAH GERD USE REAL NAME PLOX"
 
G+ is much better than Fb anyway
 
You missed a not.
 
We've moved our chat with my GF to G+ because Fb is just too fucking annoyingly bad
 
@DeadMG I've never had that message with my non-real-name account
 
@DeadMG Just don't associate yt with google account.
 
2:15 PM
@sehe I've said No to that a million times and it eventually did it for me anyways.
 
too late
 
Turd is much better than Pile of Poo, anyways
 
I think I'mma probably just delete my YT account
 
@ThePhD Vigilance!
 
@ThePhD same. i was logged into my youtube and google account seperately. OHHH you want to merge those; lets do that without asking T_T
 
2:15 PM
@DeadMG Nooooooooooo! I'm subscribed to that. You'll reduce my subscriptions by... 50% I think
 
I've never ever uploaded anything to YT
 
They pack the upgrade in so many sneaky ways. I'm pretty sure upgrading "to the new Gmail look" probably kicked me over the edge.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf They always ask
 
and what's the fucking problem in having proper G+ account again?
 
Xeo
Ugh, Ideone down
 
2:16 PM
@Xeo coliru~
 
@BartekBanachewicz The fact that it requires you to sacrifice your privacy. It requires you to link your google account to your real name and, oh, let's link all gmail, youtube, google search, maps, etc. activity to that same account too. Yes please.
 
Xeo
Doesn't help when I want to retrieve a snippet from Ideone.
 
Oh.
 
@sehe in what way exactly?
 
@Xeo ごめなさい
 
2:17 PM
I might upload another video of me feeding The Mutt™
 
Xeo
I guessed what that means before even looking at the first kana
 
1 min ago, by sehe
@BartekBanachewicz The fact that it requires you to sacrifice your privacy. It requires you to link your google account to your real name and, oh, let's link all gmail, youtube, google search, maps, etc. activity to that same account too. Yes please.
 
@DeadMG Change your nick to The Mutt
it fits you :P
 
Need to travel anonymously?
 
@sehe I see no sacrifice of privacy. I use my real name.
 
2:18 PM
Erm.
 
NOPE, GOOGLE MAPS IS RECORDING ALL YOUR SEARCHED AND TRAVELED TO DESINTIATIONS. :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz you use your real name on everything
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol. that's a special kind of blindness
2
 
@sehe we need to get bartek a stalker so he understands why real names aren't always the best idea on the internet
 
@ThePhD fyi save others the spam because I'm not reading this anyway
 
2:19 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf shame telkitty is still banned?
 
no she's in the Lounge
at this very moment
 
@sehe the point is, all that data is accessible to you only.
 
A friend of mine had some random person show up at her address because she just used Skype.
Not even put her address on it. She just used it and the guy found her.
Creepy as shit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz TROLOLOLOLOLOL
 
@ThePhD btw, do you want help or not? The algorithm is the same as "to lower", but I don't get why you say your to lower is inconsistent and I guess that's related to why you have trouble with case folding, even though you did lowercasing already.
 
2:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That made my day
 
ahahahaha
 
@sehe do you encrypt all your emails too?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would do manual checks for ranges of codepoints and then tolower them, but that fell apart for other characters like Turisk ones and I also completely forgot about the latin accented characters. :c
 
@BartekBanachewicz I do some
 
Plus, I also started having problems with my IsWhitespace implementation...
 
2:21 PM
my point is, if you don't trust google with your data, don't use their products.
 
@ThePhD WTF DUDE ARE YOU SAYING YOUR TOLOWER IS WORSE THAN THE STANDARD ONE
WTF is wrong with you.
SERIOUSLY.
 
;~;
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm. Which part of me opting out of Google+ did you miss?
 
ITT Robot getting to the point
@sehe Like, all of them.
 
I'm sorry... :c
 
2:21 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Why?
 
because it's essentially one company.
either you trust them with your data or not.
if not, go make a fake account for everything called Herp Derp problem solved.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Derp Storm, Phantom Derpstorm, Herp Derp, Derpra Phantima, etc were all not "legal names"
 
@ThePhD Of course it worked. What do you think we ship with? Rockets?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Rockets and Friendship.
 
@ThePhD John Smith is.
You can just kill the Google+ thing, you know.
 
2:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I know, right. But I don't have to go and explicitely link my porn usage to my LinkedIn account and my expenses and my travel history.
It's a different story that this information can still be associated if parties try hard enough, but that'd make such parties very much in violation of privacy rules. Whereas, if I put my "approval" on it, it becomes a bit more fuzzy.
 
btw I just typed "+" in google search and got MLP video
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not a legal name
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Reminds me when my father was diagnosed with terminal cancer and Amazon kept sending me Father's Day deals bullshit.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Oh. That's a great feature. I'm subscribing right now!
 
@sehe really though
some of linkedin's suggestions are really creepy
^ crappy link but does support my point
 
Xeo
2:26 PM
...I think coliru is overloaded
 
Did someone break coliru?
@Xeo It's you!
@Stacked it appears coliru ran out of PIDs or something.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf I don't actually use LinkedIn (though I exist there) or FBook or reddit or HN or... Just SO
 
> Quick, sort!
 
Xeo
... Coliru down, LWS down, Ideone down. Wtf.
 
2:28 PM
Wtf down
@R.MartinhoFernandes Message? I do notice it runs quite a bit slower lately
 
Xeo
Can't fork
resource unavailable
> /tmp/1375453753-1314914002/cmd.sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
 
how fast would be quicksort in canonical haskell implementation?
 
@Xeo either you hit your limit
 
@BartekBanachewicz Faster than the hand-written implementation with mutation. I tried it and GHC's optimiser kicked my ass.
 
or you're getting fork bombed
or weird shit imho
 
2:30 PM
@Xeo Its a conspiracy
 
@BartekBanachewicz seven
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow.
 
And just slightly slower than std::sort when I tested it some time ago.
 
hm let's write it from scratch. qs list :: (Ord a) => [a] -> [a].
 
@BartekBanachewicz You love writing things from scratch, don't you?
Morning
 
2:31 PM
@Jeffrey not really.
 
@Jeffrey not as much as he likes berating others for doing so
 
I am learning new language and doing trivial exercises. No shit I will be reinventing wheels.
 
@ThePhD So, are you sure you need case folding? It sounds to me like you need a real to lower actually.
 
> I’m not even friends with my girlfriend on Facebook…
Confused
 
I wish I had a girlfriend
 
2:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz There was that one problem that Pawnguy had and you were all like "Fuck your code, I'll rewrite it from scratch for you".
 
oh wait I have @ScottW
<3
 
@TonyTheLion That's not a girlfriend.
 
@TonyTheLion just start visiting a hooker, less effort and cheaper in the long run.
 
I just thought it was a recurring pattern.
 
@Jeffrey in that case it was really easier than debugging his solution
 
2:34 PM
@thecoshman That's one thing I will not do.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Whatever.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, there's other issues with my current implementation. "IsWhitespace" isn't exactly working out that well, among other things.
 
@TonyTheLion then go and get one. They're virtually everywhere
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf also, considering he's calling LinkedIn creepy, I find it rather interesting he went to such lengths to "shop" life-like screen-shots with the names supposedly "changed to protect the 'people I may know'". Talk about creepy
 
@BartekBanachewicz One does not simply... get a girlfriend.
 
> virtually
 
2:35 PM
@TonyTheLion they can come visit you instead
 
I'm terrible with girls
 
@TonyTheLion what? Meh, not true.
 
@thecoshman Damn, you beat me to it
 
@TonyTheLion girls are also human you know
 
@BartekBanachewicz Really?
 
2:35 PM
I know they're human
 
Wow, you sound like a great boyfriend.
 
@TonyTheLion With that kind of attitude...
 
@TonyTheLion hint: maybe you're gay?
 
:)
 
@thecoshman He has a gay?
 
2:36 PM
@thecoshman erm... no
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm?
 
@thecoshman Whose gay, otherwise?
 
@thecoshman I think he would know by then.
 
@thecoshman his gay?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Acknowledging humanity in women.
 
2:36 PM
Wait... I didn't mean for this to become an open discussion
 
ffs now perfect thread ruined.
 
Lol.
 
@TonyTheLion 2late
 
¬_¬ you'll can take youre grammar and shove it up your arse
 
@TonyTheLion You dropped the bomb. It's too late now.
 
2:36 PM
> "perfect thread"
 
@sehe that's well, good, no?
 
> We are always interested in touching base with top creators and welcome the opportunity to know you
 
Your sexuality is now in discussion for the next 10 minutes at least.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You are an angel
 
2:37 PM
"touching base"?
The fuck does that mean?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Who said that it was sarcastic?
 
American term.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Being in physical contact with bases.
 
@EtiennedeMartel more or less 'getting in contact with'
 
Means "meet up", "brief conversation", etc.
 
2:37 PM
@EtiennedeMartel There's this thing called Baseball and...
 
@ThePhD stop stealing things
 
@sehe just making sure. Remember I can't detect trolling and sarcasm.
 
@ThePhD You can discuss that all you like, the most important thing is that I know what's up.
 
Is this about sex again?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I started it. :(
 
2:38 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It's not about sex unless there's Penis involved.
 
@TonyTheLion I'd worry more about what it is up
 
ITT: Tony instigating sex (conversations).
 
@ThePhD that's pretty gay :/
 
@ThePhD So your IsWhitespace is also worse than the standard one? There's a lesson to be learned here somewhere.
 
@ThePhD lesbian can't have sex?
 
2:38 PM
@thecoshman What is that supposed to mean?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mm. You make it sound like you really can't. Is there a reason why you would be less equipped than others to detect that? (Hint: there could be, and that would be fin)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes can we start giving him badges?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If I just base it off the ucd properties, I can avoid my faulty patches the whole way through.
 
@TonyTheLion 'penis up' meh, it happens. 'up my arse', oh great, now my ass hurts
 
No, that's not the lesson.
IsWhitespace is trivial. There's a property for that.
 
2:39 PM
@sehe I am totally extrovertic and unable to hide my real thoughts, and I think it projects on what I hear from others, i.e. I expect them to express their real thoughts too.
 
ToLower is more or less just applying the Lowercase_Mapping property to each character.
Plus locales exceptions for Turkish.
Plus exceptions for sigmas.
 
> Need a new programming language? Why not Zoidlang?
 
@Jeffrey because haskell :3
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ah. So you're not unable, as much as unwilling/unused to. I'm not so sure about being extrovert. It sounds to me like you're just uninterested in politics/diplomatics (like me, by the way).
 
Also because Zoid isn't probably gonna finish it anyway :P
 
2:41 PM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ good damn phantom class form no where is cocking up my attempts at deploying to glassfish. WHERE ARE YOU COMMING FROM YOU LITTL SHIT?
 
(mildly) autistic people have a tendency to be more honest than others
 
@Jeffrey because it will never be done
 
@sehe hm, interesting.
 
indeed
 
@sehe well it could be that I can't shut up too
 
2:42 PM
That's what your gf tells you?
 
@sehe indeed, and seem to not be able to understand that others are not the same.
 
she talks way less than me, that's for sure.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Admittedly, you do have a tendency to ramble on at times
 
What's Lounge<Chat>? It's not like that 3 lines explain that much
 
@Jeffrey our chat platform
 
2:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I hardly talk compared to my (autistic) gf
 
@TonyTheLion "Tendency" ?
More like a deep-seated compulsion.
 
@BartekBanachewicz even more confusing
 
@TonyTheLion haha "at times"
 
@ThePhD I didn't want to be so coarse about it.
 
@Jeffrey Lounge is making a new platform to migrate to
 
2:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz why?
 
Coarse is fun.
 
@Jeffrey Power grab.
 
@Jeffrey FREEDOM!!!
 
@Jeffrey because the current one doesn't satisfy our needs
@thecoshman interesting.
 
2:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz (he he he)
 
@thecoshman lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz are you going to write it from scratch?
 
@Jeffrey no.
 
JK :P
 
oh snap. see? that's what I meant.
 
2:45 PM
But seriously, is it up yet?
 
Tony's list of features for Lounge<Chat>
1) Satisfy my 'needs'
2) something about chat
 
Wank it out.
 
@thecoshman Well, he is the Prince of Porn. What do you expect? :P
 
@Jeffrey no, we are still discussing technology
 
Who's the King then?
 
2:45 PM
@thecoshman what?
@EtiennedeMartel Me.
@ThePhD is deluding himself. Prince.... pfffftt
 
I only use Prince because it's has consonance.
 
@BartekBanachewicz actually, dom had a look around when he was looking at doing chat for the project that shall not be named and I think victory chat was the best he could find, it was still bad.
 
@thecoshman interesting. I recently found out that I'm clinically speaking mildly autistic myself
 
King, I am King! Bitch, you better remember it.
 
Oh, I remember it from those nights. <3333333
 
2:47 PM
@thecoshman lol
I hope we don't get two projects that shall not be named soon enough.
That would make it hard to tell them apart when needed.
 
aparty!
CONFETTI!
 
Though it might not be needed to tell them apart if they end up exactly the same.
 
@sehe 'technically' (and very technically) we are all 'on the spectrum', just most of us sit in the same end all able to get on with each understanding how we all think. That is the 'problem' with autistic people, they 'work' differently.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Where?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
2:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz fuck it, IRC
 
Ugh.
 
@thecoshman I know that. I'm not very impressed by the verdict. However, a few little things did start to make more sense.
 
I don't want to deal with Clang.
I really don't. =[
 
@thecoshman one step forward two steps back kind of thing?
 
@ThePhD so did you embarrass yourself in your meeting yesterday?
 
2:49 PM
@sehe look on the bright side, you now have an excuse for coming across like a dick :D
 
@TonyTheLion The meeting is today.
And I have nothing to show for it.
 
@Jeffrey on Pivotal
 
It's time to go get fired. :D
 
@Jeffrey it works? what more could you want
 
2:49 PM
@TonyTheLion If he went yesterday, he would have embarrassed himself.
 
@ThePhD Didn't you just steal the Wide code like I suggested?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@sehe also, what verdict? that you are 'mildly' autistic?
 
um why do I have to pack (x:xs) into () again? When matching list argument?
 
@DeadMG No. Plus, I'm not sure your code would work in Clang 3.3 and VS 2013 Preview. :c
 
2:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you mean this?
 
why can't I just write qs x:xs = ...
 
@ThePhD Er, you're the one who forced me to put in a bunch of effort fixing it for 3.3. As for 2013 Preview, it compiled fine when I had it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So the grammar doesn't run away.
 
@thecoshman mailing groups also work, it doesn't mean it is a step forward though
 
@DeadMG But does it run ?
 
2:50 PM
See C++. Or Perl.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm, ok
 
I can compile fine.
It's when running I get some obscure casting error.
And I can't defeat it no matter what I do. :c
 
@ThePhD It's going to be a lot faster for you, who already has LLVM and Clang, to simply pull the latest version and compile it with 2013 Preview and find out, than to spend years fighting Clang. There's no reason why Wide should fail with 2013 Preview.
 
@thecoshman I didn't need an excuse for that
 
@Jeffrey who wants to step forward? I just want to chat with out worrying that I am going to turn up one day to find nuclear fallout
 
2:51 PM
@thecoshman Basically. There's a bit more to it, but that's an apt summary
 
@DeadMG I did that!
 
@BartekBanachewicz To put it simply, lists are not special, so they get no special treatment (well, besides the reserved names they use).
 
I did both \trunk and \release_33 pulls,
I built both (ALL THE HOURS)
 
no, I meant Wide.
 
and tried linking against / running
Oh
 
2:52 PM
@sehe what's wrong with that? Firstly, it's not an issue. Secondly, you don't have to tell people
 
@thecoshman and chat.SO doesn't let you chat with those needs?
 
For Wide. I guess I can do that. Sure maybe.
 
just pull Wide, build it, run some simple samples, if it works, then steal the code.
 
@Jeffrey it fails at the 'not worrying that I am going to turn up one day to find nuclear fallout'
 
@thecoshman I know right? I didn't say anything is wrong with that. And I didn't feel the need to tell. It just came up, remember?
 
2:52 PM
@thecoshman That sounds like unwarranted paranoia.
 
Just went to have a shit. Felt good.
 
this room could be decided not worth keeping...
 
@thecoshman what does that even mean?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Shits are awesome.
 
@Jeffrey yes
 
2:53 PM
I'm good at metallurgy.
 
@thecoshman So what. Are you attached to the number 10?
 
@Jeffrey an overzealous mod closed the room
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes damn, that's a nice number
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's been ... around 14 months since the Puppy last mentioned that in this room, IIRC
 
@sehe Well, well.
 
2:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, three is the magic number
 
The other C++ room is going well, 'The last message was posted 2 hours ago.'
 
Although I don't think in his case it felt good.
 
@thecoshman if that happens we should go to Java
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes TBH, it's handy to have when URL-editing
 
@MartinJames It was dead before it started.
 
2:54 PM
@A.H. nah, smells
@TonyTheLion deep man, real deep
 
Java (Indonesian: Jawa) is an island in Indonesia. Understand Java is Indonesia's fifth-largest island. Its 130 million people make up 65% of Indonesia's entire population, and makes Java the most populated island in the world. Covering an area of 127,569 sq. km (7% of Indonesia's area) and with a population density of 940 people/sq. km, Java is the world's most crowded major island as well. Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, is located on northwest region of Java. Surabaya (the second largest city in Indonesia), is located on East Java. Java acts as Indonesia's center of cultural and ...
 
@EtiennedeMartel you shat on him?
 
Python is #6, C# is #7
 
there is another C++ room ?
 
@thecoshman No.
@A.H. There Can Be Only One.
 
2:55 PM
@thecoshman lol, why would they close the most famous chat on SO?
 
@thecoshman :/
 
Startups were 8, and Java 9
 
@thecoshman But yes, I basically think you're just nuts. (plural "you")
 
@Jeffrey because morons
 
@Jeffrey 'overzealous'
 
2:56 PM
@A.H. yep
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I agree, I'd rather not leave here.
 
If anything, that episode should have been reassurance.
 
@Jeffrey Off-topic. They already did freeze it- it only lasted like 15 minutes, but still.
 
unlike most people, I prefer random new people finding us.
 
and trolling
 
2:57 PM
I seriously doubt they will ever "close it" anyway
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes indeed, but next time a handy mod might not be around
 
An occasional troll is good for the soul.
 
@Jeffrey not sure if they can 'close' it, by they can lock us out
 
meh, Ubuntu Edge has no thunderbolt
suckage.
 
Oh god.
Isn't USB enough for you? :c
 
2:58 PM
@Jeffrey Oh. I'm not convinced that 2025 DSN's will still list entries for stackoverflow.com in the first place
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's a wire thing right?
 
I mean, even programmingstutorial.com went out
 
@thecoshman does it has to be 'us' ... can it just be " I prefer random new people finding me."
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think it comes with evolution mail
 
@thecoshman That's where the "nuts" and "unwarranted paranoia" comes in.
 
2:58 PM
@sehe that was terrible anyways
 
Jul 30 at 1:02, by Cat Plus Plus
Oh no http://programmingstutorial.com/ is down
 
@sehe since then ?
 
Next target: cplusplus.com
 
^ FTR The @Cat has an alibi why he even noticed
 
I didn't notice the room was frozen and I was banned until much later on
 
2:59 PM
@ThePhD >:D
 
I never got to see it :<
 
@thecoshman Next time you might be having a heart attack and this room might be your only chance of getting a call for help out. Why don't you worry about that and start eating super healthy and all that shit like a madman?
 
@A.H. It has come to "our" attention then
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Did you get some work done while banned?
 
Oh - Telkitty back. Now I want Zoidberg.
 
2:59 PM
I doubt Zoid is coming back
He prolly had an epiphany about finishing projects
 

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