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Ell
12:00 AM
This message has the puntential of being binned, and I'm puncertain if its worth the risk. I guess I should just take the punge...
 
@CatPlusPlus, is this Lounge<Chat> project more serious than usual?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes When I learned Haskell I didn't fan boy over it! I still don't for that matter.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm in: charliepiga@gmail.com
 
12:01 AM
When I learned Haskell I hated the thing.
 
I don't know how I could help though
We will see
 
When I was learning it I didn't get what everyone was fanboying about so I felt a bit bad.
 
You still should.
 
I'll keep my sanity.
 
I learned it before it was cool.
 
Ell
12:02 AM
I still don't get the hype
But I don't know it still
Its too late for me to start learning Haskell now, it will look like I'm doing it because its cool. I'll have to wait until it becomes retro
 
That's gotta be one of the silliest excuses. You can simply say that you don't want to.
 
I didn't know learning Haskell was cool.
 
C# for the web server? I was expecting Python or Haskell.
 
Really?
 
Really what?
 
12:11 AM
Python or Haskell for a web server?
 
Well, python isn't that much of a surprise. Why not?
I'm pretty positive Python gets a bronze medal for most used languages in web services
 
if (*pathname.rbegin() != '/')
 
@Rapptz Python's huge in the web space - wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks
 
@ReedCopsey Yeah. I guess I mostly meant Haskell.
 
@Rapptz When talking to the Cat I always throw some Haskell in, mostly to make him happier
 
12:17 AM
std::basic_string (and therefore std::string) does not have a back() method (see sgi.com/tech/stl/basic_string.html). That said, back() is added as a standard member of basic_string in C++11. — Jason C 1 min ago
Oh it doesn't show the edit, lol.
 
We've discarded Erlang on the basis that you're bad and wouldn't be able to use it effectively.
So same goes for Haskell.
 
Why not Python?
 
I wanted C#, Bartek wanted C#, we picked C# vOv.
Shoulda been in the Mumble meeting and counterargument.
 
Allrighty then.
 
C# sounds good to me.
Also, LOL
Verizon sends me a new phone. Open the package: no phone in it.
 
12:29 AM
wtf?
 
Thanks, Verizon. Great job on providing me with a pack of papers and nothing.
The best part is, I specifically told them I do not need a new SIM card. That the SIM card slot is broken, and that they need to send a replacement phone.
You know what's included with all those papers?
A SIM card. :3c
The even better part: they remembered to include a return address and baggie so I can send back my old phone, without getting a new one!
A+ packing, Verizon.
 
Obvious troll is obvious
 
I can't believe I'm arguing over back on SO.
God damn it.
 
Ell
@r.martinho Haha I was joking, I have already tried learning s few times
But I don't have the attention span at the minute
 
q_q Xeo only sent my pun to the pun bin.
Why only my pun, huh? :c
 
12:39 AM
Well your pun was horrible.
 
@Rapptz I think it was fairly punny.
 
What is the Lounge<Chat> project?
 
Oh my god. He posted it to comp.lang.c++
 
@Pawnguy7 The future.
Enough working, time for some fun.
 
@CatPlusPlus I have heard grumblings about this lacking for... something? - and that it was on a feature freeze, so to speak. I assume it is related?
 
12:46 AM
Yup.
Also we're pretty tired of dumb SO policies.
 
Namely?
 
Most recent:
21
Q: Lounge C++ frozen by mod?

Tony The LionSeriously why is Lounge C++ being frozen by Mod Gordon? I mean really? Because we're not on-topic?

 
Ell
Ooh another storm
 
Lounge got frozen. Loungers are pissed. Loungers are working on new chat.
 
Ah, yes. Not sure why I didn't connect those.
 
12:49 AM
Also refusal to add any room moderating powers for owners.
 
Like kick?
 
The whole retarded global flagging system
For reference:
44
Q: Why am I suspended from chatting for a message that's from May this year?

Tony The LionI have just been suspended from chatting in the C++ lounge for a message that was deleted by the @Feeds bot, that is from May this year. Why now the suspension (30 mins) for a message so old already?! Reason for ban I'm confused.

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Q: Make it possible to revoke write access to public chat rooms

Cat Plus PlusThere is already a two-tier ACL system in place: it allows us to choose default access mode (Public for "default read and write" and Gallery for "default read, no write"), and then assign access levels to users. For the purpose of this post, let's label them: Level 0: explicit read access Level...

They've called the function "room owner" but there is no ownership of any useful kind.
And note that we've been telling them that flagging is broken for two goddamn years.
At least.
Nobody cares.
Except chat users, but who'd listen to them, right
When I'm bored one day I'll write :words: about motivation behind Lounge<Chat> and stuff.
Man, creating repos on GitHub organisations is not trivial.
 
Ah. I'd say I would help, but I am pretty sure I don't know how to do any of it.
 
I wouldn't mind helping you guys.
 
Ohh, there's an account dropdown. Why didn't I think about that.
Email and GitHub account.
 
12:56 AM
rapptz for both (gmail provider)
 
Not sure yet if creating all forks within the organisation will be feasible, but eh.
Might as well have a directory of who's codin'.
 
@CatPlusPlus I am willing to help with the chat project
 
10 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Email and GitHub account.
 
1:14 AM
sent
 
Ell
80s music is awesome
 
Oh god.
Guys, someone is asking me to give an opinion on a situation
And I do NOT know what to think at all
 
Ell
What's the situation?
 
They're waiting for me to say something about it, and I don't know WTF to think
Plus it's gross as shit, I didn't even want to hear about it. :c
 
Ell
Tell them you have to answer the door
And explain it here :P
 
1:26 AM
Well, shit
Okay, the quick and dirty
 
Ell
Yeah
 
Person A (Alice) and person B (Amy) are in an realtionship. They have phone sex. It's all good blah blah blah.
 
Ell
Yah
 
Near the end, Alice is plenty pleased, has already "capped out" (wtf does that mean?) and tells Amy she's done and wants to stop
 
Lesbian relationship?
 
Ell
1:28 AM
Capped out? Does that mean climaxed?
 
Amy doesn't want to stop. She keeps on going, despite Alice saying she doesn't want to anymore and to stop.
 
Ell
Or tired out?
Yeah
 
Amy doesn't, keeps going for a while until she's satisfied or w/e, and Alice just sits there silently, listening to the whole thing.
 
Uh, hang up?
 
Alice comes to ME, saying she feels like she's been violated or some shit. I'm refraining from saying "just fucking hang up"
@CatPlusPlus SERIOUSLY
 
1:29 AM
Come on.
 
PROBLEM SOLVED, RIGHT?
But I don't want to sound like a giant fucking asshole
 
Ell
So Alice feels violated for having to hear Amy feed the pony?
 
Apparently?
 
This is so bullshit
 
I mean, she described it "Like rape"
I'm like, WTF
 
1:30 AM
Let's now discuss this horrible euphemism Ell just used.
 
She said rape isn't the right word, but what the fucking hell
Why am I playing counselor fml I hate being the nice guy
 
Ell
I see nothing gross about this, but Alice is stupid.
Alice should hang up
Or even just not listen
 
Sever (the cable).
 
@ThePhD wtf
 
I honestly want to say "you should have just hung up"
 
1:31 AM
Alice: You fucking choose to do this. Now you stay there until I'm done.
 
Get restraining order or something.
 
But a part of me -- a very tiny part -- thinks Amy should have listened to the "stop" request.
 
Ell
 
... Wat.
 
I mean seriously, "feed the pony"?
 
1:32 AM
@CatPlusPlus That's pretty bad
@Ell We revoke your pun and metaphor rights
But, uh. Seriously guys. What do I say to her?
 
Ell
@catplusplus Its an inbetweeners thing I guess, British comedy series
 
"Grow a vagina and hang up next time?"
 
@ThePhD Hang up. Sever. Restraining order if needed.
 
Ell
@thephd ask her why she didn't hang up
 
@CatPlusPlus o_O
 
Ell
1:33 AM
Not in a condescending way
 
@Ell Will do
Sounds like a good way to go
 
Yeah Ell's right.
 
Ell
Just imagine you're feeding grass to a pony. You know your hand is sorta cupped.
 
What, that Amy chick might be a psycho who'll abduct her and force her to be on the phone all day.
 
1:34 AM
You never know.
 
I heard the british accent from the GIF
 
Ahaha
You can literally see it.
 
Ell
The accent? O.o
 
Just like I heard it in my mind
 
1:37 AM
@Ell Yup.
Btw @ThePhD accept the invite you lazy person.
 
@CatPlusPlus Got it.
Is there going to be a private or public github repo?
Also, responses:
 
Public.
 
@ThePhD For private repos you better go to Bitbucket
 
Ell
Private is Money right?
 
1:40 AM
On github yes
 
Why didn't you hang up the phone? -> "I felt pressured to stay on."
Did she threaten you or bully you or belittle you? -> "No, she... just didn't stop."
So she wasn't listening? -> "She didn't stop when I asked her to. I spent days feeling violated, like I didn't mean anything to her."
.... <______>
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS
 
They're both crazy.
 
lol..
 
Ell
No, just the "victim" is crazy
 
I don't get why people have "phone sex" in the first place so this makes even less sense to me
 
Ell
1:42 AM
Ask why she carried on listening if Amy didn't ask her to carry on listening :3
 
I don't know what to say anymore.
Do I just cop out?
 
Ell
Just call Alice
 
I could cop out pretty easy and just say "I don't know what to tell you." ?
 
Ell
And start making pony noises
 
@Ell ._.
 
Ell
1:43 AM
And see how long she stays on the phone.
 
You expect her to just stop fapping?
Honestly if she didn't want to hear it she could have just hung up.. or well the fapper could have.
 
Or I don't know, put the phone away.
 
Ell
Alice could have just stopped listening or hung up
 
I think Alice just wants me to agree with her that Amy should have stopped or listened
 
1:44 AM
Then agree.
 
Ell
Well don't give her that satisfaction
 
... I'm... not inclined to agree. I think they're both weird as shit <__>
 
She's still crazy.
 
I think Alice is the one in fault here tbh.
 
Honestly, though. Amy was just fapping. It's not like someone was actually violated.
 
1:45 AM
You should have just concurred:
 
@ThePhD Someone's virgin ears could have gotten hurt there buddy.
 
Ell
Just say you don't want to make this experience even more traumatic and leave
 
Tell her to call you next time
 
@BenCollins lol @ ( <i> sobbing </i> ) caption
 
Can I change the IP address of the modem's LAN?
I think it conflicts with the router's one
 
1:47 AM
@Rapptz That was pretty funny.
 
@BenCollins Hahaha "Why didn't I concur"
 
@CatPlusPlus as inclinced as I am to be a douche, I will just do as @BenCollins demonstrates, and concur.
Path of least resistance or w/e.
I don't want to make her feel worse or like the innocent looney she might be.
 
Nested for loops in case statements I think I'm going to be sick...
 
You pony.
 
Be a man.
 
1:49 AM
@Rapptz There's no man_up comprehension for this situation. ._.
 
As long as we're talking about how to talk to girls about their problems:
 
@ThePhD Be the pacifist and just tell her you don't know what to say.
 
you are all welcome. now stay on-topic!
 
:(
Not you too.
 
I kid, I kid. I'm not going to freeze the room.
 
1:52 AM
._.
 
@BenCollins You need another mod with a matching avatar :)
 
I tend to shy away from exercising mod powers since I'm not actually a mod. I usually only go there when there's an obvious need.
 
Ell
He''s going to vaporise it instead!
 
@Borgleader I have a sockpuppet account. I should do that on him.
 
I don't see why employees can't exercise their mod powers from time to time. Is there an unwritten rule about it?
 
Ell
1:54 AM
Wait are mods employees?
 
._.
 
No. But employees are mods.
 
She kept going on and on when I tried taking the pacifist route.
 
Ell
I always forget. O thought they were community voted
 
Mods are, not employees.
 
1:54 AM
So I went HAM and told her she should have just hung up the phone and for her to quit being so goddamn fucking irrational and if its such a problem to take it up with fucking Amy and wdawkjhadwjkbwdjkadw
MAAAAAAAAAAAN MOOOOOOOOOOOODE.
3
 
Ell
@thephd through what medium are you communicating?
 
A phone.
For maximum irony.
 
@Rapptz No. I just like to defer to the elected mods. And to the CMs.
 
lol I was going to say that
 
SERIOUSLY?
 
1:55 AM
@ThePhD This is not man mode... this is man mode
 
"I COULDN'T HANG UP THE PHONE IT WAS SO VIOLATING."
 
@ThePhD Irony's just too good to pass up.
 
FIRST WORLD MOTHER FUCKER, GO TO AFRICA.
 
CM?
 
CM = Community Manager
 
1:56 AM
@BenCollins Oh. What do you work on in SE?
 
Not chat.
 
<= Dev
@CatPlusPlus hardy har.
 
Night everybody
 
@Borgleader True Man Mode indeed.
 
@Borgleader Ugh.
ShitPlays.
 
1:58 AM
He was playing Amnesia for halloween it was hilarious. he gets easily scared
 
Three thousand testicles -- Day[9] achievement.
 
Ell
I'm so low rung
 
i cant judge though, i easily get scared too
 
Welp, I lost a friend.
But doesn't matter, was looney anyways.
 
:golfclap:
.NET versioning scheme is crap.
Major, minor, build?
Come on.
 
1:59 AM
@ThePhD You lost a friend over that? ... Wow
 
@Borgleader Well, from her perspective, she was having a meltdown about phone sex violation. And I basically told her to grow a pair of ovaries.
 
Ell
@cat what's wrong with that?
 
@ThePhD It's for the better.
 
@ThePhD imho she needed to hear it
 
It's major, minor, bugfix, build. Silly.
 
2:01 AM
Would you want to call that person ever again that -- while you were having a crisis -- told you to woman up?
 
Friends don't unfriend you because you tell them they're acting irrational, when they're acting irrational.
 
Ell
I don't unfriend, I get unfriended
 
Anybody want to answer a simple recursion question?
 
Ell
Go on
 
2:06 AM
Well, basically, I want to count air blocks in a grid.
I am just not sure how to.... pass on the air count, so to speak.
 
Ell
I'm not sure I know what you mean. What data structures are involved?
 
Um.
Not certain what you mean. I am not sure it matters.
 
Wow... the flamewar on this still hasn't been cleared. lol
 
Basically, what I want is, a recursiveAirCount(int x, int y), returning the total air count.
I considered passing a list, but... seems odd for the caller to pass in the list.
 
Honestly, I don't see why this is C++, really. There are only two things about it which make it C++: #include <cstdio>, and void main(), and even those two things are for compatibility with C. This is really a C question. — Ben Collins 23 hours ago
Aw snap.
 
Ell
2:18 AM
@pawnguy I don't really understand you. But maybe you want to return the result of the recursive call
Plus if the current cell is an air block
 
@Mysticial It's mostly one user who has sour grapes that it takes him 5 days to get as many upvotes as this one question got in an hour
 
@BenCollins Two actually. There's another string of nasty comments on the accepted answer as well. You might want to take care of them. :)
 
I don't know why these high-rep users don't just behave cleverly.
 
Fun fact: sum of reputation of those who closed the question: 127k (two 20k+ trusted users included). Sum of reputation of those who reopened it: 21k (each <10k). This shows something, doesn't it... — H2CO3 6 hours ago
this is so dumb
 
Want easy rep? Take all your fancy std:: knowledge and make something cool and post a question about it.
 
2:20 AM
@Ell yes?
 
Ell
That was all I had to say :L
I don't have enough information
 
@BenCollins I wouldn't say sour grapes. But rather - downright jealousy? :)
 
@Mysticial oh, totally. Check this one:
-1. It's a shame you got as much reputation for a stupid question as I could gather only with several days of hard work on SO. The only scores that should be positive on this post are dasblinkenlight's answer and that of others who bothered explaining this mess. — H2CO3 8 hours ago
 
Anyway, I've screenied it since I doubt the comments are gonna stay much longer.
 
Looolololololololol.
H2CO3's so mad.
I'm gonna comment. I have to.
 
2:23 AM
in man mode, presumably?
 
Exactly.
 
Just don't bring him here
 
what's so dumb about being mad is that there's a REP CAP. The OP can get 1,000,000 upvotes and still only gets 200 rep per day.
 
400? Repcap changed?
 
eh, I could be wrong about that. different sites can have different caps.
 
2:25 AM
Really? I thought it was network-wide 200
 
200 on SO
 
@H2CO3 Sounds like you should eat your Peanut Butter and MadJelly sandwich and leave this question be. :D — ThePhD 18 secs ago
Lololololol.
 
@Rapptz It's per site. I've repcapped on both SO and meta.SO before. (on the same day)
 
200 is the default, but it can be set by site
 
<troll/>
 
2:25 AM
@Mysticial Not what I meant.
 
@BenCollins oh? I didn't know that. :)
 
Let the flaaaaaaaamewaaaars begin!
 
Cool.
 
If only the DE was working properly, I'd be able to see how much I've lost to the repcap. Bleh...
Been a while since I've run that query.
 
@Mysticial Dude, it'll just be depressing.
 
2:29 AM
@ThePhD At one point, it was as high as 80% of my actual rep. But it's since dropped significantly since I haven't had any big hits in a long time.
 
Ell
Ooh feel that bebop burn
 
@Mysticial Oh hush, us mortals actually have to work for our rep every day you get it for free because you like trains ;)
j/k <3
 
2:45 AM
@Borgleader Rep doesn't mean much when you're over 20k. I got to 20k the hard way. :)
 
Dont you get a Pony painting at 200k?
or unicorn rather?
I want a painting :(
 
Wow.
TIL the Intel compiler, ICC, uses AT&T syntax for assembly output.
 
I don't understand how people do things like this.
 
3:13 AM
@CatPlusPlus Thanks. You're definitely serious. :)
 
@Rapptz really ?
 
@A.H. Yep..
 
thats weird
 
@Rapptz Hm. You don't have a QtCreator project or anything on there, do you?
 
Nope.
 
3:33 AM
Where does Qt store its projects?
 
wherever you told it to
 
yep
 
Ooh.
So it's like Eclipse in that manner.
 
Mine's in %USERPROFILE%;Documents\Qt Projects
 
3:44 AM
Do you think this answer is a useful addition or not? I thought it might be worthwhile to point out how something like this doesn't just happen by accident, but rereading, I'm not entirely sure if it adds much new or not.
 
@JerryCoffin This is really neat, I like it.
I bet if you answered earlier it would have gotten lots of upvotes, so I'll give you one.
 
@JerryCoffin You have a different approach in answering the question, unlike the others. IMHO, it's a really useful addition.
 
I took part in lounging that up. :)
 
4 of us did :)
 
Thanks...
 

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