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11:00 PM
guess they're overcompensating for dragging their asses with c++11...?
 
user142019
@DeadMG Dat pun.
 
Which experimental compilers can one try this stuff out on?
 
@cHao They're kinda fucking up.
 
@rightfold What pun?
 
user142019
> raised
 
11:00 PM
@CaptainGiraffe GCC 4.8 has some stuff (-std=c++1y)
 
er, it would have to be thrown
 
@DeadMG I thought you threw it?
 
no, I'm trying to throw dynarray.
 
@DeadMG raise an exception is the UML crowds way of stating it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes thanks, I'll check it out.
 
there's also Raise used in the Windows API, but it's not the primary term
 
11:04 PM
@cHao Seems like they are rushing stuff through :(
 
I tend to use 'raise' in the context of those stacky, errory things. 'throw' sounds like a sports term.
 
@DeadMG aren't we still in the land of arrays as pointers?
 
@CaptainGiraffe Hopefully not.
 
Oh Gawd.. pointers/arrays again :(
 
How does dynarray circumvent the fundamental fact of the type system?
Apologies @Martin
 
11:08 PM
It doesn't. It's a fucking mess.
 
it doesn't
 
True to its origins, one would say.
 
Fine with me.
 
@Ell I'm here now
 
The one time someone asks for my help I was offline :(
 
11:10 PM
s/asks/begs/
 
oh what happened to DerpStorm?
I haven't seen him around for a while.
 
user142019
I haven't seen him around forever.
 
user142019
Like, never heard of that name at all.
 
DerpStorm?
 
Oh no! PhD has died?
 
11:11 PM
ThePhD
 
user142019
Ohlol.
 
I saw him here like, yesterday.
 
oh
well, I haven't been online that much
 
'Phantom Derpstorm' - credit, IIRC, puppy.
 
11:13 PM
puppy came up with that name?
 
user142019
Phantom types.
 
no
 
sbi, then?
 
I'm not really a big user of "derp"
sounds more like the Cat to me
 
@TonyTheLion Dom did, IIRC.
 
11:14 PM
he's into derping
 
@DeadMG Plse. forgive my failing memory...
 
ITT Cat derps
 
user142019
@MartinJames Stop using MongoDB.
 
Anyway, I'm going home.
 
user142019
@DeadMG Doesn't really sound like a term Cat would come up with, IMO. :v
 
11:15 PM
He came up with it himself
 
Have fun people.
 
he used to say it
 
Stay healthy.
And Cat, put a fucking smile on your face.
 
We'll try
 
@AndyProwl: You should keep the code for your live examples in the answer as well, as backup and quick reference.
 
11:16 PM
@rightfold NO! I am not WebScale. I'm barely web, (especially today - my mobile ISP - 'Three' was stuft).
 
@AndyProwl: My 2 cents, which I deserve to give since you've decided nobody else deserves rep anymore... ;)
 
@GManNickG been a while since you were last here. How's tricks?
 
@TonyTheLion Indeed, just been working and watching from the shadows.
 
oh I see
 
11:18 PM
WTF
 
lolwat
 
@Pubby Why don't you show xsd:double?
Also, ugh, XSD.
 
Dunna ask me - 'pubby' - no clue.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes as the answer says, the problem is within me.
 
pumpteenth attempt at the semantic web
 
user142019
 
user142019
Appropriate avatar.
 
I hope Jesus forgives me
 
@rightfold Jesus!
 
user142019
He can't.
 
user142019
He's been dead for almost two thousand years.
 
11:21 PM
@Pubby He stole my bike.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have to deal with that on a regular basis, unfortunately
 
Meh - 'migration', 'mysql' - sounds more like the dark side.
 
user142019
> MySQL
 
user142019
-1 needs more PostgreSQL
 
Fuck SQL, in whatever flavour. Still tastes like shit.
 
11:22 PM
Yes, I hate SQL, with a passion
 
@MartinJames OO? functional?
 
@rightfold why is jesus only answering a tomcat question
 
ugh Tomcat
I had to deal with it once
 
user142019
Jerrymouse
 
11:23 PM
Ohhh Tom & Jerry
 
@CaptainGiraffe OO, mostly. I am forced to use some SQL by my customers, but it's not pleasant.
 
my fav cartoon
 
OO SQL? OMG. WTF.
 
@MartinJames Embrace your enemy.
 
Impossibru!
 
11:24 PM
@CaptainGiraffe ... round the throat.
 
@MartinJames no really.
 
I don't mind embracing my customers :)
 
@MartinJames Dude =)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes BTW, please suggest a bar/time for next Tues/Wed :)
 
Lets take OO SQL as a quick for instance. base is of course a virtual foo { virtual int f() = 0 } }. This bloody model has five relations before anything is modelled.
 
11:31 PM
result_of::f<T> f(T&& t) noexcept(noexcept_of::f<T>()) this gets tedious quickly. Fuck noexcept.
@MartinJames Lemme check a map and see what I know in the area.
 
@CaptainGiraffe SQL is an apalling abomination to anyone who has experienced anything else. A gruesome hybrid that means next-to-nothing to anyone who does anything except DB.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No rush - I just wanted to say that I'm still up for it. I wonder if @sbi or any other donuts might fancy a beer?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ye
 
@MartinJames Ok. It happens to be in an "explored area" so finding a bar won't be a problem.
 
11:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ok, choose your poison whenever you like :)
 
@MartinJames When do you arrive?
 
user142019
I'm going to sleep bye.
 
user142019
Have fun.
 
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A: Type value mismatch error with vectors

DeadMGFor some functions, std::vector<T> requires that T be default-constructible. Your Enemy class cannot be default-constructed, therefore the compiler issues an error. Either define a default constructor for Enemy, do not call vector functions that require default constructibility, or change the vec...

 
Is it possible to unflag?
 
11:44 PM
I believe that pwnage has arisen
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Needs more decltype(auto) f(T&&) noexcept(auto)!
 
user142019
> plus your use of disgusting global variables, C arrays and otherwise terrible code, I am going to posit that you have no idea what is going on.
 
user142019
+1'd just for that.
 
@Pubby nope
 
> I am going to posit that you have no idea what is going on.
Really?
 
11:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ETA Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 13:15, Berlin, Germany - Tegel. After travel to hotel and check-in, I should therefore be around Berlin on Tuesday night.
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Just make sure the robot's still able to go to work on Wednesday, he's weak with alcohol.
 
Bill Gates once said that 640k would be enough... :) — Mysticial 1 min ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'Go-to' empty type, so really unit. In the context of invoke it's useful for e.g. bind(Nullable n, Functor f) -> optional<ResultOf<Functor(ValueType<Nullable>)>>;, dispenses me from writing an overload for void returns.
Also use it for range_iterator<some_single_pass_range, empty_type, ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Er, I probably overdid that just a little bit.
 
11:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to think that val was a useful thing to have (much like std::ref is useful for C++03-style storing & forwarding), now I'm not so sure anymore -- defer(f, decay(arg)) achieves much of the same but is saner. I might try getting rid of it altogether, although that might break stuff in expressions/.
 
I am staying here:
http://www.hotel-prens.de/
 
Xeo
@LucDanton What was defer again?
 
@Mysticial for what?
 
Store invokable + args for delayed invokation.
 
@Jeffrey Anyone.
 
11:54 PM
wat
 
Xeo
@LucDanton so, kind-of bind with full application
 
Meaning it's not then.
I dislike comparisons with bind unless the feature uses placeholders itself. I feel that dealing with arity explicitly (or not) is a big deal for generic code.
 
@Xeo OK, 15W/40 it is :)
@ScottW I have stayed at enough ' hotel-robots' as it is :(
 

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