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2:00 PM
Freudian slip.
 
Interesting.
 
too much learning
 
@BartekBanachewicz A background program that shows a NSFW popup at random intervals?
 
damn networks
@StackedCrooked :D
 
I know its all digital now but I have the retro tomes
 
2:01 PM
> Tungsten has the highest melting point of any element. This means there's a lot we don't know about its properties. The reason for this—and this may sound a little stupid—is that it's hard to study, because we can't find a container to hold it in.
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derp.
 
@BartekBanachewicz little scientific American?
 
@BartekBanachewicz why derp?
 
user142019
 
"Would this be any different if this were to be expanded to several hundred or thousand nested blocks?" Yes. You would be murdered and all of your coworkers would claim to have seen nothing. — R. Martinho Fernandes 14 secs ago
 
2:02 PM
@RolandSams what-if
@DeadMG it's kinda funny
 
user142019
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Works on my machine.
 
@BartekBanachewicz where's that from?
 
Nothing, nothing I enjoy Scientific American
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@RolandSams what-if
 
@BartekBanachewicz found it; what-if.xkcd.com
 
2:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz OH, what-if ok I see
Anyone into demos and chiptunes? I <3 that stuff
www.scene.org
 
@rightfold Clicking that gif into a background tab slowed my machine so I almost thought the compiler had crashed. That thing almost scored one more.
 
user142019
Why do all your machines suck at displaying GIFs?
 
user142019
It works fine here.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Funny is not "derp"
 
2:08 PM
@DeadMG "derp" is not funny.
 
@rightfold Wasn't actually displaying it, just loaded it into the background.
@Telkitty猫咪咪 WTF would that be made of if not real potatoes?
 
starch maybe
but it is always nice to know your potato waffle is made from 'real' potatoes
 
y'know
I don't see why you couldn't just stack sizeofs infinitely
surely sizeof sizeof sizeof sizeof expr; is valid?
 
I'm trying to gain some skill with milkytracker milkytracker.org
 
@DeadMG You could. But then they would not be distinct keywords.
 
2:12 PM
oright
 
XKCD about pace of modern life is amazing
 
...raster font
 
Been a while since I get the "confused by earlier errors, bailing out" thing.
 
@melak47 thanks for the link
 
@CCInc the (LPCSTR)127 looks weird to me, but who knows..
 
2:15 PM
Another 'only in the UK'. Surprise! Falling from high places can cause injury or death:
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2013/06/28/holidaymakers-warned-over-balcony-falls/
 
@melak47 crazy winapi
 
@melak47 Doesn't look much like a C string to me.
 
@MartinJames lol
 
@CCInc LPCSTR is basically const char*, right? so... that makes as much sense as (const char*)127 to me. not a lot? :/
 
> Ludia is looking for Tool Programmer to join the Core Tech team. (jobs.ludia.com/jobs.php?url=fo_annonce_lister.php?_lang=en)
It's official now.
 
2:17 PM
@thecoshman watch out for all the competition
 
@melak47 Casting a int to a const char... wouldn't that be the same as L"127"?
 
@CCInc Not at all.
 
@not-TonyTheLion Tony, I am sorry, but I am addicted to calling you wuss the puss, maybe I can you wuss the puss from now on? If you prefer I can call you Tony wuss the puss?
 
@CCInc Is that a pointer?
 
@EtiennedeMartel That mean Coshman isn't certainty yet?
 
2:18 PM
shrug who knows
 
@not-TonyTheLion That means they probably haven't gone through his CV yet because they're understaffed in HR.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Call me Puss the Wuss, I don't mind. If that makes you feel better.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then why are they hiring programmers instead of HR folks?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes IIRC, it's a pointer to the first char of a C-style null-terminated string, (or it should be).
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah I see
 
2:19 PM
@CCInc If I do int i; std::cin >> i; then what does (const char*)i point to?
 
I mean...it could work, since they basically want an offset there, so (char*)127 might give them that offset..as a pointer..thing.
 
@not-TonyTheLion ok, thank you puss the wuss :')
 
@LucDanton tell me
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 :)
 
No.
 
2:20 PM
@CCInc It's not. It's an array.
 
@melak47 I suspect UB.
 
I got pwnd
 
@MartinJames yeah, or that :p
 
@melak47 Ugh, reminds me of glVertexAttribPointer.
 
Thanks for your help guys :)
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2:21 PM
We're nice people, when we're not being assholes.
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.. in other words, we're horrible people.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes suddenly, I want to learn OpenGL even more! ..not
 
@JBL really? no clue?
 
@melak47 It's just an historical artifact.
 
You fellahs have to check this out! One of the coolest things I have ever seen. Please let me know what you think scene.org/file.php?file=/demos/groups/farb-rausch/…
 
2:22 PM
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A: glVertexAttribPointer in OpenGL and in OpenGLES

Nicol BolasThey are the same function being used in two different ways. I'd explain why it works this way, but you won't care, and it's for very stupid and irrelevant reasons. What matters is what they're doing. And what they're doing depends on something that you didn't show: what is bound to GL_ARRAY_BUF...

 
JBL
@not-sehe If people argue over its interpretation/differ in how they understand it...
 
@RolandSams Clearly you haven't seen me
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes this is exceptional
 
@JBL So, things are useless if people argue about it?
 
> Note: the core profile of OpenGL 3.1+ removed the ability to use client memory; there, you must use buffer objects, as explained below.
TIL
 
2:24 PM
@not-sehe does that make you useless? let's argue.
 
> I'd explain why it works this way, but you won't care, and it's for very stupid and irrelevant reasons.
 
"things"
 
lol, typical @NicolBolas
 
It's true.
 
JBL
@not-sehe Of course not.
 
2:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You say that like it's easy to hire competent people. Also, we need both.
 
I have a nice WoW bender for the rest of the day because I was up all night programming and don't have the mental sharpness to continue
 
lol WoW you suck
 
I would rather be programming
 
JBL
That concerned the part about "The standard defines what is compliance to the standard", and "there might be different interpretation of the definition".
 
What's a "WoW bender"?
 
2:27 PM
If you still want to do programming, it means you haven't done it enough.
 
JBL
Which to me kind of break the purpose of a "standard", which is IMO to make things uniform.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am going to play world of warcraft until late tonight
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes epic achievement!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes means playing until you bend from fatigue
 
JBL
(But that was just nitpicking about that specific topic, I do know that it is necessary).
 
2:28 PM
@not-TonyTheLion I don't want to plant bugs deep within my source I have to fix later
 
playing till she bends
 
JBL
@not-TonyTheLion There are passionate people you know :)
 
@not-TonyTheLion Stop being the cat!
 
@JBL I was one of them, once upon a time.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
JBL
@not-sehe Still, my thinking is one of a complete noob when it comes to C++ and standardization, as I'm not into that for a long time.
@not-TonyTheLion How come you lost your passion ?
 
2:30 PM
@JBL It was dark.
 
I think I'm back in reality.
 
@ThePhD welcome back
 
@JBL Endless frustration with bad code, mostly.
 
hey I heard Sehe left
what happened to him?
 
2:32 PM
You suck
 
he was eaten by the monstrous paperclip
 
He pirated his copy of a not license, and refuses to relinquish it.
 
He's in disguise
 
JBL
@not-TonyTheLion Lack of passion, tss.
 
@not-TonyTheLion :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You bastard!
@JBL Urgh. Fuck software
 
Has anyone had nightmares that seemlessly blended with reality?
 
JBL
2:33 PM
@not-TonyTheLion Hehe. I should send you my code, it's horrible as fuck.
Mmh, in fact, no.
 
@JBL No thanks. I have enough with my every day job.
@ThePhD I've had nightmares that semi blend in to reality
 
@BartekBanachewicz Tasteful.
 
Mm.
WHATEVER
I DIDN'T NEED THAT SLEEP ANYWAYS
 
Time to go to work 2 hours early.
 
2:35 PM
@ThePhD No. All my nightmares are way too surreal and nonsensical to blend with reality.
 
JBL
@ThePhD Those caps testify of the opposite.
 
I take B1 vitamin before sleeping and it reduces my nightmares/dreams.
 
JBL
@not-TonyTheLion Can't change ?
Oh well, there might be interesting jobs that still make you see crappy code... ~~
 
@JBL I can, but finding something is annoying. Also, will that actually make a difference? I wonder.
 
@not-TonyTheLion You're a drug addict!
 
2:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lucky you. =[ I am a lucid dreamer, e.g. the way I can get out of dreams and nightmares is to usually identify that things are happening that are completely beyond the realm of reality and then convince myself to wake up if a nightmare takes a spill for the worse.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hahaaha
 
JBL
@not-TonyTheLion Depends of which quality you need to actually consider a piece of code acceptable...
 
@JBL Nowadays, C and pointers are better than most C++ code I deal with.
oh wait...
 
@ThePhD Lucky? It's extremely disconcerting to wake up in the middle of the night afraid of you-don't-even-know-what-because-nothing-makes-any-fucking-sense; just pure undirected dread.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hate that.
 
JBL
2:38 PM
@not-TonyTheLion It's C++ restricted to the C-equivalent subset of C++ ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes FWIW, I almost prefer that. =/ Not to knock how you feel about it or anything -- it sucks either way, but...
 
@JBL No. I was making a bad analogy to the quality of the code I deal with
 
For the past five years, however, my dreams have become indistinguishable from reality. It's almost as if my mind now understands that I'm a lucid dreamer and crafts experiences so realistic that it becomes closer and closer to impossible for me to distinguish between reality and dreaming, to the point where I have to watch for things like personality quirks and other things to be able to tell when I'm not in reality anymore.
 
JBL
Oh ok.
 
@ThePhD D3D11_RESOURCE_MISC_TILED : This value is not supported until Direct3D 11.2
._.
 
2:39 PM
@ThePhD Check clocks twice in short succession.
Works for me.
Dream clocks don't work.
 
@ThePhD Try taking a walk just before going to bed, so you extrovert your attention a bit.
 
the robot can't dream up working clocks? pathetic!
 
JBL
@ThePhD This sounds too much Inception-ish...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to do that. Used to work -- I would check computer times and alarm clocks, shit would suddenly jump 50 minutes and it'd be like "AHAAAA."
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, they do for me. Usually I catch a personality quirk. But usually wanting to check indicates boredom, which then trips up the simulation and causes a personality emulation glitch.
 
2:41 PM
Another trick I use is to press my index finger against the other hand's palm.
In dreams it just goes through.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's what they say inside dreams.
 
My dreams are sufficiently removed from reality that I can easily distinguish.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You need moar physics engine.
 
Except for the one where I got 1 million dollars, I wanted that to be real desperately. hahah
 
@Potatoswatter Sorta glad I haven't done physics programming. If I start maybe it'll make my head also obey all the laws of physics, and then I'll be in real trouble. ._.
 
2:43 PM
@Potatoswatter I don't necessarily want to check. I do it instinctively now. More or less regular reality checks.
I AM NOT CRAZY.
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@EtiennedeMartel hey hey hey! what is this shit!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What if your hand falls asleep in reality, like from poor circulation?
 
What about it?
 
You need to have more dreams involving frostbite.
 
2:44 PM
Then you wouldn't be able to sense whether the finger was going through or not.
At least, not without looking. Not sure how you do this.
 
Hmm, I don't think I ever look.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes needs more combining diacritics
 
Anyway, as you said, it cannot be something you want to try. That only works when you are already figuring it out.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but you wish you were :'(
and you are not ... I am sorry robot, no matter how hard you try, you are just not crazy ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm with you. D:
My dreams are really nasty, though.
Like the one that just happened?
I dreamed up full goddamn conversations on Stack Overflow.
By the time the glitch happened that tipped me off to it being a nightmare, I had already been stabbed twice, hahaha.
 
2:47 PM
@ThePhD Yeah, but that's easy.
"ThePhD: PURREQUEST DeadMG: No" repeat ad infinitum
 
@ThePhD inb4 not-phd
 
@DeadMG hahahahaha
 
Hahaha, true enough I guess. x3
The glitch was actually when I hit F7 in Visual Studio and then the compiler errors started being posted by everyone here.
 
makes sense
 
man
 
2:49 PM
puppy
 
my dream last night involved a very small flying parasite that would control people
 
Like in rapid succession. It filled my screen rapidly fast, like you were all spam bots. By the time I turned around, stabby stab stab.
 
@ThePhD VS being buggy was what tipped you off?
 
@DeadMG that's not a dream
 
2:49 PM
and it also had the curious property of partially sticking out the bottom of the jaw and then I blew it up with a shotgun
except I shot it several times and it didn't die
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No I mean, all of you started spilling out words into the chat like you all were on my computer and were the compiler.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was the fact that it took more than 2 minutes for it to crash, I reckon
 
okay, Germany, here I cooome
 
When that happened my location changed and by the time I turned around... yeah.
 
@ThePhD I am the compiler.
I am The Computer.
@KonradRudolph You coming to Germany?
 
2:50 PM
ITT: puppy has violent fantasies involving firearms
We might need to notify social services
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heidelberg, visiting the wench friend
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You might be, but I wasn't using boost::spirit and @not-sehe was saying stuff too, along with @melak47 and @Rapptz and a bunch of others.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the robot is MSVC? D:
 
@not-TonyTheLion Nah, it was bigger than that, maybe the size of a golf ball
 
@melak47 Now that's rude. I'm flagging that
 
2:51 PM
@DeadMG ah I see.
 
although the moment when I shot it the first time was pretty awesome, in retrospect
it was through a window and everything
with a giant shotgun
 
worrisome
 
Pups, you doing anything over the weekend? Want to meet up?
 
crying and sleeping are my main activities sledged for this weekend
 
2:53 PM
especially sleeping
 
@DeadMG oh, I'll leave you to it then.
 
@KonradRudolph Oh, not-Berlin.
@DeadMG Was that supposed to be a yes or a no?
 
lol
 
pup is playing hard to get
 
well, simple fact is that I currently can't afford to travel for fun, and I've had a bad stomach all week
 
2:54 PM
"I have no decent plans so yes" vs "I don't feel like making plans so no"
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 He's been avoiding it for a while. Not sure if I'm really that scary or he's just really shy.
 
maybe both :D
 
@DeadMG You don't have to travel, I can drive right to you. Won't cost you a thing
 
@not-TonyTheLion That might kill him.
 
hahahaha
 
2:55 PM
I'm definitely way too shy for that
 
because he will have to give you his address
I am not sure it is that safe ...
 
See the headlines on Monday: Puppy dies from Lion attack!
 
plus, the only available entertainment is Daisy
 
If ya'll wanna wait,
 
2:56 PM
at one point I might be in England and shit.
 
who is rather stupid and entertaining, I admit
 
we're waiting
 
but there's a limit here
 
Cheffield or something, whatever the hell it's called.
 
sheffield
it's near where I went to university
 
2:56 PM
That one!
 
But I think I won't be there permanently. I don't know the itinerary.
 
@ThePhD Sheffield :P
 
49 secs ago, by DeadMG
sheffield
 
@DeadMG That's further than anticipated.
200 miles
 
2:57 PM
@not-TonyTheLion dude! when you getting your ass over this way?
 
@thecoshman Where are you?
 
@not-TonyTheLion No, he might be going to Sheffield. I am definitely a lot closer than Sheffield.
 
England is so big. =[
 
I'm near the Isle of Wight
 
2:57 PM
I misunderstood that entirely then
 
Why is this place so big?
 
@not-TonyTheLion o_0
 
sourth coast
 
ah I see
 
@ThePhD Aren't you 'Murican?
 
2:58 PM
lots closer
 
yep
 
@DeadMG Yes.
 
but useless if you won't let me visit
 
@ThePhD 'Murica is way bigger than England.
 
@not-TonyTheLion When I get there, Tony, we should both surprise-visit him. :D
 
2:58 PM
@ThePhD ...
 
@thecoshman Oh, wait... did you mean last night when asked about me visiting, that I visit you in Athlone?
@ThePhD hahahaha
 
Just show up at his doorstep and be like "SURPRIIIIISE."
Bring cake and shit.
 
@not-TonyTheLion yes...
 
I give up trying to meet with Puppy, he's officially from my meet list now
 
@not-TonyTheLion It's not me, more like, everything else, considering that this isn't my place.
I'd especially rather avoid that you meet my brother.
 
2:59 PM
lol
 
since he is more annoying and worthless than Telkitty
 
@DeadMG ok, well walk 500 metres to my car, and we go somewhere from there
 
I mean, its not that hard.
 
harhar
 
2:59 PM
@not-TonyTheLion It's starting to sound like a spy movie.
 
you've obviously never lived in the middle of a swamp.
 

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