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12:03 AM
WoO! New badge! (good answer on stackoverflow.com/a/17287687/845092)
The "Whats new in visual studio 2013" page still isn't up?
 
@rightfold She died from that.
 
user142019
Oh. :(
 
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Time to download Ogonek before I have to do that tomorrow when I have a terrible Internet connection in the train.
 
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No wait, nevermind. I'm not even going to use C++ tomorrow.
 
Hello, not-Lounge.
 
12:16 AM
Hello, Newb
 
Does that mean ppl are actually working today?
Since they aren't lounging?
@rightfold What is ogonek anyway?
 
user142019
WIP Unicode library.
 
If I cast a close vote while on the "flagged post" page, does it count towards my close vote reviews?
 
hmmm
I'm kinda tired, but it's pretty early to attempt sleep and have a decent chance of success...
 
nvm...I checked the close vote queue...it doesn't count ;-(
 
12:28 AM
the thing I said I was going to attempt- sleep.
 
lol, yah, I'm slow on the uptake apparently...
 
user142019
Boom.
 
y'know
I been thinking about this, and Wide really has been far more successful than I expected.
 
12:47 AM
I was wearing my shirt backwards the whole evening.
 
@CatPlusPlus oh no, you must have looked like an ass!
 
@rightfold BOOM
@rightfold yours?
 
user142019
No.
 
=[
@DeadMG What do I have to do to make you accept my Pull Request? ;~;
 
consider one that would not entail me having to substantially change a whole bunch of things about my machine to get it to work as a result
I mean, think about it
I'd have to deal with you having renamed everything, moved a whole bunch of paths, etc.
... also now is just not really a good time for me
 
it's amazing how playing a bit of music can completely change my perceptions
 
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I'm wondering.
 
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Do you guys have to wake up early? If yes, aren't you tired as fuck tomorrow?
 
For the past two days I've gone to sleep at 2:00 3:00 AM and woken up at 5/6/7 AM.
 
user142019
Sounds like a nightmare.
 
1:16 AM
So far I'm able to run entire days, despite working before and after the usual 9:00 to 5:00 stuff.
I'm sure that by Friday I'll collapse soon and I won't be able to do it and sleep through all of Friday night. :D
 
@rightfold No.
and also, sickness
and also don't forget time difference
 
user142019
@DeadMG No to which of the two questions?
 
the first
 
user142019
OIC
 
I am always tired tomorrow
 
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1:18 AM
Well
 
user142019
time to sleep.
 
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I should eat something first.
 
I would try, but it's too early for my stomach to permit sleep
 
user142019
Kaassoufflé (plural: kaassoufflés; diminutive form: kaassouffleetje) normally refers to a Dutch snack of melted cheese inside a thin dough-based wrap which has been breaded and then deep-fried. Overview A kaassoufflé is thought to originate from Indonesian street food. It is either bought ready-made frozen and deep-fried at home, or ordered at snackbars in the Netherlands, where it is one of the few vegetarian fast-food snacks available. At certain Dutch fastfood outlets, such as FEBO or Smullers, it is possible to purchase a kaassoufflé without having to order it at the counter; instead ...
 
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I want this right now.
 
1:19 AM
mm
 
> BY READING, BROWSING, STANDING NEAR, POSSESSING, NOT POSSESSING, THINKING ABOUT OR NOT AGREEING WITH THIS AGREEMENT, YOU AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING TERMS COVERED BY AND NOT COVERED BY THIS AGREEMENT.
 
Lol.
 
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@StackedCrooked Kaassoufflé met een frikandel speciaal en een grote friet met mayo en satésaus.
 
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:3333333333
 
heb net een durum op
 
1:22 AM
> 7. Termination
You may be terminated.
 
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@StackedCrooked Lëkkër.
 
Hi all
 
1:47 AM
@rightfold now I do too. thanks
 
FINALLY
I can play with VS 2013
Oh my good look at all the colors they finally came back oh yesh <33
/crushed
Visual Assist X no longer works with Visual Studio 2013 Developer Preview q_q
Oh well, that's okay.
I guess I'll just have to trudge along.
Shouldn't be too bad, right?
q___q All these old extensions not working with Visual Studio 2013 q_______q
 
I never used those.
 
HgSccExtension not being around makes me sad.
But thankfully it's not TFS where the SCC is built into a database / a file next to the solution, and so I can check in changes easily using .hgignore and other features of a regular Mercurial SCC client and not have things conflict.
Or not-check-in.
DCVS ftw.
 
hmm
I just named my character "Unicode"
 
2:04 AM
Values are 8, 16 or 32?
 
I didn't get to pick any unfortunately
 
OH MY GOD
GUISE
THERE'S FORMATTING OPTIONS FOR C++ <333333
 
lol
welp
let's see what my stomach has for me tonight
 
2:20 AM
could it be your diet?
 
it couldn't
 
boiled veges and meat with only salt and pepper tend to upset stomach less
stay away from diary products, spicy food or dried food
@StackedCrooked I am perfecting my skill in making coconut flavoured pancakes :p
and complete that with chocolate spread ^_^
 
sounds good
 
...
Oh my god
Visual Studio.... has fixed it's two-phase lookup?!
 
2:31 AM
YEAH!!! I CAN NOW DO REAL C++ IN VS!!!
I've waited very long for this.
Wait. It's a new release?
 
Real C++ ...
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Yes. REAL C++.
 
You are implying Visual C++ used to be the 'fake' C++? >_<
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Yes. Especially the Nov. CTP with its faux variadics.
 
2:41 AM
@MarkGarcia How big of an improvement is the new Visual Studio?
 
@Borgleader Real variadics is the biggest improvement, I think. Library support is next. Then all the other stuff, still big improvements.
 
Is the UI any faster? better?
 
@Borgleader I don't know, haven't tried it yet. Still downloading.
 
Yeah... :)
 
2:47 AM
ima dl it tomorrow
 
@Borgleader IS IT STILL LOUD?
 
Too bad MS still doesn't like having torrent downloads. :P
 
@Collin I HAVENT DOWNLOADED IT YET
 
heheh
 
@Borgleader LOL
 
2:51 AM
@Collin IT IS STILL VERY LOUD BUT I THINK YOU CAN CHANGE IT
ALSO C++ FORMATTING, VARIADICS, AND APPARENTLY TYPE_TRAITS IS A LOT BETTER NOW
template <typename TIterator>
		lword EncodeOneBytes ( charcodepoint c, TIterator bytes ) const {
			static_assert( std::is_assignable<std::iterator_traits<TIterator>::value_type, byte>::value , "Iterator must have a value_type that is assignable from byte" );
^ Strangely enough, this static_assert fails. o.0
 
@ThePhD "EncodeOneBytes"...
:)
 
Hm. Even with a byte* it fails.
... I think type_traits is broken...
I need to force the static_assert to print out the failing type...
 
3:36 AM
I wish I could more easily display template types...
 
@ThePhD What do you mean by "display"?
 
For errors.
I want to inspect what these template values are resolving to (the intermediate ones in typedefs)
 
@ThePhD Oh. Well, concepts would definitely help. Though we have to wait for longer.
@ThePhD The problem, I think, is that IDEs are very lazy parsing compiler messages. Compilers can also be blamed for not having more "parsable" messages or having some way for IDEs to get structured messages from them.
 
Shrugs.
Meh.
 
Yeah.
 
3:46 AM
What the holy bejesus shit
Oh, nevermind.
Templates still sucking. ._.
 
Why are you invoking errors anyway? ;)
 
Me in email: "lol, I can reproduce."
facepalm
 
Once a friend of mine sent out an email addressing a group of people in her organization (in which she has been working for the past 10+ years), She misspelt her colleague's name, instead of calling her "Virginia", she called her "Virgina" ~facepalm~
 
3:59 AM
All I meant was that I was able to reproduce a humourous bug in Explorer that my friend pointed out.
 
if you can reproduce a bug, does it make yourself a bug :p
 
the bug is you!
 
haa...
 
What if we're all bugs
 
@StackedCrooked Feel the bug; beeee the bug!
 
4:04 AM
What if humans are just bugs of an otherwise perfect simulation D:
 
You have some real issues with your current reality, huh?
 
Soon... yes soon... we will disassemble the fabric of this binary cage!
 
@Crowz Hmm....sounds yummy!
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Well, it could have gone worse...
 
@ThePhD I think I just have an overactive imagination
 
4:05 AM
@Crowz It means we're not using modern C++ idioms.
 
or I'm crazy. Probably both though
 
I guess a variadic union isn't possible in C++11..
 
@StackedCrooked <3 Unions
 
It would fix the type-aliasing warning that have with this code.
 
@ThePhD My car rego is "ZEX949", once I went on holiday with my friends. As I approach the holiday apartment(we all drove separately), one of my friends screamed "It is Yi, I see sex (ZEX)!" As soon as that came out, she immediately felt embarrassed I was told - there were many other staying at the same place. People probably suspect we were lesbians
 
4:07 AM
Maybe static_cast via void* would prevent this warning as well...
 
That variant is so small!
There's no visitation or anything though.
 
@StackedCrooked Why not remove the indirection and cast it directly to void! :P
 
I'll cast you to the void
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 D'awww, how adorable.
 
I have a weird sense of humor
 
4:22 AM
I think I was just attacked by a succubus
 
@moonbeamer2234 it must be cool..
 
@Tory no
scariest thing ever
 
Jesus bloody christ.
All the import errors in the world.
Guess I'm gonna have to dynamically link FBX.
 
hell, its about time
 
4:33 AM
"Default template arguments for function templates." Nice.
 
Initializer lists and uniform initialization.
 
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@Borgleader And that's the ~1.5th most important thing for me in this update.
 
C++ REST SDK is added. It has a modern C++ implementation of REST services. For more information, see C++ REST SDK.
C++ AMP Texture support is enhanced. It now includes support for mipmaps and new sampling modes.
neat
 
@Borgleader REST API needs to be more on modern C++.
 
4:37 AM
Huh?
In any case, I think REST is neat so yay for it being added. Also, I should use C++ AMP more.
 
@Borgleader Anyway, it is neat. Maybe I just based my opinion on its docs and examples which seems not to use auto.
 
Oooh,
it's up?
Raw String Literals
Variadic Templates
\o/
!!! make_unique ! is part of the library
Guess we just gotta wait for GCC and Clang to catch up.
 
"Faster Builds. Numerous optimizations and multi-core utilization make builds faster, especially for large projects..." Great!
I hope it includes more build optimizations for templates.
 
I noticed this for my project.
Builds are definitely faster, individual files are getting chomped through, even on my 5400 rpm machine. :D
 
@ThePhD How much is your estimate on the improvement?
 
4:45 AM
<type_traits> received major stabilization and code fixes.
That explains why half my std::is_assignable shit is going to hell right now.
 
@ThePhD Well, not enough for you. :)
 
@MarkGarcia It's building in a minute.
 
@ThePhD And compared to VS11?
 
how long was it before?
 
@MarkGarcia It was working before. So I guess my code was bad and I have to make it play bettr with the standard.
 
4:45 AM
Or GCC?
 
@MarkGarcia 3-6 minutes, depending on how full of a rebuild.
@MarkGarcia Don't compile my DIrectX program with GCC. :3c
 
@ThePhD WTF. That's +3x! Cool!
 
Well, it should be noted my code is terribly inefficient, so.
It could just have a big impact because my inclusion scheme sucks dick. :3c
 
Is VS2013 worth downloading?
 
@Rapptz It's definitely worth trying.
 
4:47 AM
VS2012 was underwhelming and I never use it.
 
I was complaining about the CTP not being finished like 2 days ago.
And then this happened.
 
@Rapptz Just as with Office 2013 compared to Office 2010.
@chris Too bad they haven't released the improvements in an update for VS11.
 
Oh well, I'm perfectly fine using VS12.
I suspect VS11 CTP is coming really soon.
 
Variant partially fixed. But now support for types that are not trivial...
 
I don't get why they made VS2013 when VS2012 wasn't that great to begin with :<
 
4:51 AM
@Rapptz Yearly releases to tandem Windows releases.
 
Well they'll suck more companies into buying it.
 
Oh my god -- the download is finally complete! I may be able to test VC++ 2013 before the end of the day after all.
 
Yay, mine just finished installing.
 
Don't wonder. I create a new account every few days just to vote that answer up. — user414076 2 mins ago
^^ read the next two comments
 
4:56 AM
Brb restarting. So glad I bought that SSD now.
 
I need 10 rep on meta..
 
@Mysticial Cute!
 
Yayyyy
 
@Rapptz ...or at least 8 anyway?
 
Yeah.
 
4:59 AM
Turns out that I already upvoted 3/4 of Rapptz's answers...
 

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