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1:00 AM
night
 
Is it just me or is facebook.com down for all of you?
 
what kind of sucker visits that shit?
 
At this time, I do and it seems as it is down.
What's the point of all those 30,000+ servers if the site still goes down?
 
It's not down.
 
Well, it is down in my area. Probably for 2 minutes, but still...
Haha have you guys seen this? Its pretty funny.
 
1:07 AM
@DemCodeLines i blame the nsa
 
user142019
Ohey @DemCodeLines.
 
user142019
How's it going with your chick?
 
@rightfold Hey. Ohit was over quite some time ago.
The only thing left is that friend request that she just won't accept on facebook.
:(
But oh well..
 
user142019
lololol
 
user142019
Maybe you should've talked to her.
 
1:13 AM
Its alright.
Ironically, the day that school was over for me, she added "In a relationship" on her Facebook, without a name of course.
@rightfold ^
 
user142019
Facebook is down. :<
 
11 mins ago, by DemCodeLines
Is it just me or is facebook.com down for all of you?
 
Still not down.
 
Its up now
 
hey all
what happened to the chat name?
 
1:20 AM
@Cygwinnian hey
 
What is hordor?
 
I have no clye.
 
can someone help me out a bit
a code review?
just to see if my code is styled well
 
Post it, someone will help.
hopefully
 
1:21 AM
If you have to ask, it's not.
 
user142019
Gaping vagina.
 
@DemCodeLines Haha. Good one.
 
Mixed tabs and spaces.
 
and I was wondering if someone can point me to the right resources regarding how to create a nice efficient parser
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum :D I took some notes from you guys!
 
user142019
1:22 AM
@Cygwinnian blank lines after and before braces = bad and opening braces on new line = bad.
 
Newlines after block start/before end.
 
user142019
Inconsistent bracing.
 
Inconsistent brace placement.
 
user142019
Terribad indentation.
 
Terrible variable names.
int numberReturnedBySubscriptFunc; // A number returned by the subscript function
I mean seriously.
 
user142019
1:23 AM
			if(isupper(input[i]) && ( isupper(input[i+1]) || isdigit(input[i+1]) || isspace(input[i+1]) || input[i+1] == '(' || input[i+1] == ')' || input[i+1] == '+' || input[i+1] == '='))
 
Useless comments.
 
user142019
Worst condition ever.
 
I'm sorry, its just I was up late at night
 
> teh
 
user142019
while(getline(
 
1:23 AM
and yeah, I'll work to fix that. Thanks guys.
 
user142019
Needs more std::.
 
Inconsistent naming scheme.
> this->DATA_BASE.elementNames
 
user142019
Spaces around -> in some places.
 
Bad variable scoping (loop indexers not defined in the loop).
 
Don't define a destructor that does nothing, just let the compiler do it.
 
user142019
1:24 AM
Massive list of push_backs instead of initializer list or reading from a file.
 
	int i;	// Loop counter
int k; // Another loop counter
int g; // Yet Another loop counter
int z; // HOW MANY!!!!
int j; // PLEASE STOP!
This entire thing should not exist.
 
user142019
This code is absolutely terrible.
 
lol
 
Oh, and guys I was going to ask about that
 
user142019
Delete it and start over in Haskell or Python.
 
1:25 AM
if I want to make code portable, and a large amount of data is required.
 
using namespace std;
 
Is it best to read from a file, or will that reduce portability
 
atoi
Useless for init expressions (for(position;)
 
user142019
@Cygwinnian Prefer not to hardcode stuff.
 
1:30 AM
Alright. I'm working on fixing everything
 
@Cygwinnian You probably want to read from a file. While things like indentation and variable names matter, much more important (IMO) is poor data organization. For example, instead of one vector of element symbols, and a separate one for atomic masses, you should have one vector of Element, which should be a struct containing a symbol, mass, and anything else you care about for each element.
 
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struct Element {
    std::string name;
    std::string symbol;
    Mass mass;
};
 
@Cygwinnian If you use binary files, watch out for endianness.
 
3 hours ago, by JBL
What the hell ? Left Lounge<C++> when there was philosophical debate, join Lounge<Philosophy> and see technical discussions.
This room was named to Lounge<Philosophy> ?
 
Hodor.
Don't parse binary files when you have no clue what you're doing.
Use protobuf if you really want binary files (you don't).
 
user142019
1:36 AM
Just don't program at all.
 
user142019
No more worries.
 
user142019
They both suck at OOP so who cares.
 
user142019
C++ sucks less at OOP than most OO languages but it still sucks tremendously.
 
finally at long last I'm upgrading my vs express 2008 to 2012
 
1:40 AM
My bggest VS upgrade was when I bought Visual Assist X
 
user142019
 
@rightfold That reminds me -- I need to go get some supper.
 
It looks like fried dried fish.
 
user142019
> Jalapeño burgers with zucchini fries.
 
user142019
~ [ go get some supper                                                ] 3:50 am
package some: unrecognized import path "some"
package supper: unrecognized import path "supper"
 
1:50 AM
Found this on internet, not bad
 
user142019
@JerryCoffin You're out of luck, mate.
 
user142019
@DemCodeLines Looks terrible.
 
Why?
 
user142019
Look at it.
 
1:52 AM
Fries, with a burger that looks like beef burger and one that looks like something i don't know
 
user142019
Cheap ass burger with flaccid fries.
 
user142019
Too much lettuce.
 
user142019
 
user142019
Now this looks good.
 
How about?
 
user142019
1:54 AM
I don't know what that is.
 
user142019
Looks like rotten spare ribs.
 
user142019
And a tasteless rice ball.
 
user142019
I often eat this, which is extremely delicious.
 
user142019
Also snert met rookworst.
 
user142019
1:58 AM
Dutch food is best food.
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion het is woensdag, ga terug naar bed.
 
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user142019
>
 
fuck, man
I should not have eaten all that chocolate
 
user142019
@DeadMG Back from the bathroom?
 
user142019
2:04 AM
@DeadMG Indeed, Kit Kat tastes terrible.
 
user142019
And indeed, dogs die if they eat chocolate.
 
lol
 
@DeadMG FINALLY at home. Now I need to get Clang, Wide, and everything else together.
.... I forgot what I'm supposed to be getting. ._.
@Borgleader UE4. <3
 
Clang & LLVM dev versions
also Wide from repo
 
2:08 AM
Uh
So I can't, like
Just get Rubenvb's builds?
 
needs source package
 
=[
FML.
 
codegen isn't a public API for Clang
 
No idea where to get LLVM and Clang source for Windows.
 
just pull from SVN
 
2:10 AM
LLVM and Clang are together?
 
you have to pull separately but they go together
really, the instructions on Clang's getting started page are perfectly adequate
 
I thought you made modifications to Clang?
 
nope
I did make some source changes but they didn't pan out, so I dropped them
 
God, this is taking
a goddamn lifetime. ._.
Checking out code suuuuuuuuucks.
 
building LLVM and Clang is fun too
 
2:14 AM
You want me to build from source? ;~;
 
also, Wide requires some extra include paths to pull in the codegen headers
 
q______________q
You're a monster
 
What kind of music do people here like to listen to?
Rap? Pop? Hip-hop?
Classic?
 
metal/rock usually
 
user142019
Heavy metal.
 
2:15 AM
@ThePhD Also if you pull the Wide sources, some of the paths are hardcoded to my dev machine.
 
lol
 
user142019
Mostly WT, Evanescense and Slipknot lately.
 
user142019
I should go back to better music.
 
try polka by yves klein blue mmmmm progressive polka
 
user142019
I wonder what happens in Erlang if I have a module A which calls a function in module B, I run the program and then replace module B while the program is running, removing the function that module A calls.
 
2:18 AM
@DeadMG So... any plans to make that a bit more modular?
JESUS CHRIST LLVM IS STILL PULLING
AND SVN ACQUIRES A SYSTEM-WIDE LOCK WHEN PULLING WHAT GREAT DESIGN ._.
 
er, I think it's just the include paths I set up in the vsproj, and a tiny constant in the main file.
 
This is weird ... should never post phone number anywhere on the web ever ...
 
Lol.
u crzy.
 
received a msg 'call me'
 
also
did I mention that you need MinGW 4.6.3?
 
2:19 AM
.... And not MinGW 4.8.x because?
 
ABI incompatibility
 
It was actually posted on this chat ...
 
What happened to this building with VC++ ?
 
it does build with VC++
 
user142019
Building Wide? Haha.
 
2:19 AM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Why would you do that?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 That one for @ScottW?
 
someone is playing prank with me again - happens very often :x
yes
 
Wide is built with VC++
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Should have immediately removed them.
 
handle C++ at run-time with Clang.
link and stdlib provided by MinGW.
so it's all three compilers, one project
 
2:21 AM
.... Why.
Why would you set it up like this. D:
 
no other combination possible.
 
Why not Clang-Clang-Clang?
 
I mean, I chose VS to build with because that's my preferred environment.
 
Or just Clang-Clang VS?
 
because there are no decent tools for Clang for actual development at all.
 
user142019
2:22 AM
Custom C++ implementation.
 
=[
 
and Clang does not provide a stdlib or linker for Windows.
 
._.
 
in the future when libstdc++ and llvm-ld mature, I can ditch MinGW
 
Wait. Do you pronounce Clang as "See lang" or "Klang" like "Clan"?
 
2:22 AM
Mature as in, never reach Windows, ever.
 
I believe that, the last I checked, Wide does actually compile with GCC 4.8 but StackedCrooked never got it to link successfully
 
user142019
@MarkGarcia klaŋ, to be exact,
 
I say klang
 
Oh. That's what I've heard Herb Sutter say.
 
Seeillly Lang.
 
2:24 AM
I actually pronounce it as "see lang".
 
user142019
Wu-Tang Clang
 
@rightfold Fuck phonetics. Never understood those.
 
@rightfold If I ever make a Clang distro, I'll name it that.
Alright.
Clang finally checked out.
 
user142019
@MarkGarcia me neither, but this is what Oxford Dictionary says.
 
Now I need ... compiler-rt?
Do I need Clang-Tools?
 
2:25 AM
dunno
don't think so
 
user142019
Clang is a compiler front end for the C, C++, Objective-C and Objective-C++ programming languages. It uses LLVM as its back end and has been part of its releases since LLVM 2.6. Its goal is to offer a replacement to the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC). Development is completely open-source, with several major software development companies (e.g. Google, Apple) involved. Its source code is available under the University of Illinois/NCSA License. The Clang project includes the Clang front end and the Clang static analyzer among others. Background Starting in 2005, Apple has made exten...
 
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> Clang /ˈklæÅ‹/
 
Dat "ae".
 
... What the hell. I need to use make and configure and shit?
Ugh, I hope my MinGW is up to snuff.
....
I don't know how to do ../llvm/configure on windows. =[
Agh, it's meant to be run as a bash script.
For the love of god. =/
 
2:44 AM
CMake
 
CMake ...?
 
seriously, the Clang getting started page for VS clearly explains how to build LLVM and Clang on Windows.
 
user142019
Sleeptime.
 
user142019
Bye.
 
Ravetime!
 
2:48 AM
So... I build LLVM with Visual Studio, then...?
 
also pull and build Clang with VS
and pull Wide (it's a LOT smaller)
 
...
Then... where does MinGW come into the picture...
 
at Wide run-time.
 
I thought that was clang?
 
MinGW provides the headers and the linker.
 
2:51 AM
.... headscratch.
Why not use MinGW all the way?
 
good luck using GCC as an API
 
Oh. Right.
 
by that I mean "The entire purpose of Clang's existence is that GCC sucks at being used for anything, ever."
not to mention the GPL issues
 
But the headers and linking?
Why not just Clang those?
Or do Clang headers suck too badly?
 
Clang doesn't provide a Windows-able stdlib or linker.
 
2:53 AM
I guess we won't need the MinGW stdlib once Wide lib support is finished?
 
you will do if you want to link to C++ code
also a linker is pretty important shit
also, MinGW provides an ABI library that I might depend on for exceptions and the handling thereof
 
This is complicated shit. =[
 
yes
 
I feel like writing a VM-based language would be a million times easier.
 
eh
once you have it set up, it's really not that bad
 
2:57 AM
Static linking against LLVM?
Or Dynamic/Shared?
 
eh
your choice, but I usually go static
oh, wait
 
If I'm using your stuff, it's kind of important we link the same way. :3c
So is llvm static or dynamic?
 
the linking of Clang and LLVM isn't really important, they're just libraries.
I currently have it set up to go static, though.
 
Do you do 32-bit builds of Wide?
Or all x64?
 
I usually do 32bit
 
2:59 AM
Oh, look at me, making 64-bit llvm libraries. Fml... ._.
 
what?
the bitness of Clang, LLVM and Wide won't matter.
 
Iffff you say so.
 
at least, if it does then I've seriously fucked something up
 
Welp, that's enough building stuff for me.
I'll try again tomorrow.
 
oh god-
 
3:07 AM
Wooo.
225 llvm build errors trying to find "stdbool.h"
What the fuck do people need "stdbool.h" for.
 
Binning shitty image macros
Did you correctly configure CMake? LLVM should build with just a few warnings.
 
I don't know what else I should have configured, other than the install path.
 
hmm
 
Wait. Is it just me, or is Stack Overflow being slow this time.
Got a 503 error.
 
Just you.
 
3:21 AM
Good to know.
 
3:33 AM
WTF! I don't know what to say. (stackoverflow.com/a/17182399/1619294)
He hasn't even mentioned an image files or similar stuff.
I don't get it.
 
The maturity level of guys on SO Chat in general makes me realize that I am so mature.
 
my maturity level is OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND
 
If only candies or lollipops can be converted to maturity...
 
we'd all debug console our way to victory?
 
....
LLVM's tests and scripts can't handle spaces in the pathname.
Fuck this stupid faggoty horrible software.
 
3:43 AM
that sucks
I didn't try giving them a pathname with spaces in
 
3:56 AM
WHATEVER
256 built, 8 failed
All tests fail? NBD.
 
Can someone with 10K on meta tell me what this was: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/184983/…
 

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