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7:00 PM
@user2371549 I'm not sure I understand what you're asking me. I think you should just look up what scanf returns.
 
Ell
Ah wait - the vbo who's attributes you are setting must be bound, but the vbo itsself isn't part of the state
 
I mean if I write while(scanf(%d:,&n)>=1) what will this mean
 
Ell
But now I'm thinking I may as well store attribute info in every vbo
 
>mfw Xbox One is pretty much always online
>mfw no used games allowed
I didn't know the gaming industry could get any dumber.
@user2371549 It means compiler error
 
@Rapptz Wat
 
7:04 PM
@user2371549 I mean if you don't know what it means then don't write it
 
It's always-online and doesn't allow used games?
 
Update: In a post answering "top questions" about the Xbox One, the official Microsoft page notes the system "does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet."
 
Ell
Connect once, fine after that I think
 
There’s one feature of Xbox One from which we can infer quite a few conclusions: You can install any game from the disc to the console’s hard drive, and then play that game whenever you like without having to put the disc in.

Wired asked Microsoft if installation would be mandatory. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” the company responded in an emailed statement. Sounds mandatory to us.
 
Better make sure nobody buys one. This thing sounds like it sucks the big one
 
7:07 PM
Next thing I know, Xbox Live will still require a subscription to be paid.
 
just how fucking sick in the head these guys are.
yes, it's my friend, and yes, he fell... ugh fuck, jumped on random passer-by
 
Ell
:(
 
I'm bad you guys
 
@user2371549 it won't compile
 
Ell
That's really sad :/
 
7:11 PM
@Ell This picture is goddamn... I lack words to describe it. they will make a story out of everything
anyway, that girl has a broken spine.
either she was unlucky as hell, or she tried to catch him :/
 
Yeah people always look up to be ready to catch other people falling out of the sky
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I'm sorry for you man, this must be difficult :/
 
@Ell it's more like WTF. I have never lost anyone yet so I am not sure what I should feel.
I can hardly comprehend the fact we will never meet again.
meh, enough of the sad shit already.
if it was reversed, he would be first one making jokes about it.
 
Ell
Well there is no should about it imho, it's just whatever you do feel
 
I guess we all just have to get on with our lives.
 
Ell
7:15 PM
Exactly, it's the best way to look at it I think
 
hey, how's your OpenGL coding going?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It will kick in eventually
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz It's going alright, I got stuck earlier on not being able to get my projection matrix working though
 
@Ell do you use glm?
 
Ell
Yeah
 
7:17 PM
@Rapptz This is silly.
 
Ell
But I'm getting a black screen when I try to use the projection matrix
If I set it to the identity matrix it's fine, so I don't think it's a problem with setting the uniform
 
Oh and there's no backwards compatibility with Xbox games either
 
@Rapptz olOloLolOloLololOlOl.
 
Of course not
Why would they throw out revenue from multiple consoles out
 
The original PS3 had compatibility with PS2
The Wii had compatibility with GCN and the Wii U with the Wii etc
concept isn't entirely new.
 
7:18 PM
It's not about the concept
It's about the money
 
@Ell is multiplication order correct?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Good point. I'm not sure. atm I'm doing gl_Position = model * view * projection * position
 
@Ell that's wrong
:)
 
Ell
heh :P
 
You forgot our previous conversation
 
7:21 PM
projection * view * world
 
I call it "model"
 
OpenGL is Column-Major, matrix multipliaction is pre-fix.
 
@LucDanton I cook my own.
 
because "world" really doesn't tell you shit
 
Ell
@ThePhD opengl isn't column-major :3
 
7:21 PM
GLSL is column major*
whatever.
 
@Ell his order is correct nevertheless
 
@MartinJames Hey, I ordered the tickets. Should have them by Friday or Monday.
 
Ell
@ThePhD still I don't think that's right
@BartekBanachewicz okay, so I need to reverse that statement?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I cribbed some stuff from here.
 
@Ell P * V * M * Pos
 
7:22 PM
Then iconv.
 
think of it.
 
Ell
Oh damn.
I was doing it right >.<
 
first, you set up the Model by rotation, translation or scale.
Then you adjust for eye position and direction
 
Ell
I forgot that I stashed changed mid-conversation
 
then you adjust the fov and perspective
 
Ell
7:24 PM
Right
hmm
 
Hmm, and I am late as hell now. I'll tell the people at the bar I was trying to convert UTF-16 to UTF-16 and harvest a few blank looks to use later for nefarious purposes.
 
Ell
const float vertexData[] = {
	0.75f, 0.75f, 0.0f, 1.0f,
	0.75f, -0.75f, 0.0f, 1.0f,
	-0.75f, -0.75f, 0.0f, 1.0f,
};
 
Ok, later folks!
 
Ell
Later :)
^If I have this vertex data, should I be able to see it with a projection of this? glm::perspective(180.0f, 4.0f / 3.0f, 0.001f, 1000.0f)?
 
uh
you need model and view too
or are these identity?
 
Ell
7:27 PM
Yeah, identity
for now
 
180 degrees is a lot
give it 60
 
Ell
Right okay
Black screen :/
This makes me convinced I'm doing something wrong somewhere else, but I can't think of what
 
oh fuck
come on Ell :/
0.001f, 1000.0f
 
Ell
Ugh oh :P
 
Ell
7:29 PM
near and far?
0.0f for near?
 
Ell
>.<
 
does 0.f look like it's between 0.001f and 1000.f for you?
 
Ell
errrmagod :P
Thank you so much xD
Let me try to fix it now :L
 
well check it first
It might be something else or anything else.
 
7:31 PM
ALRIGHT
@melak47 Pink Freud loads
Pretty cleanly, if I do say so myself.
 
wheeeee
 
Ell
Well I tried changing the 0.0fs to 10.0fs and still black screen
 
exactly, huh.
 
Ell
So that isn't the cause in this case, but still, I would have missed that :P
 
Damn Qt is easy to use.
 
7:33 PM
@Ell ortho works, right?
i have still a few tricks, don't worry.
 
Ell
I'm not sure, I haven't tried that
 
try it then.
 
Ell
I thought ortho was just the identity matrix?
 
@melak47 Ready to give it a spin now? <3
 
no, ortho scales it.
 
Ell
7:34 PM
The identity matrix works
Oh right, I'll try
 
just give it correct order
it might be surprising at times so be sure to look at signature
if it doesn't work, show how you set the uniform
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, thanks!! We can meet in some bar that you know. Planes, hotel etc. all done, just need to buy some € nearer the date for beer, taxis/whatever.
 
Is Lisp seriously used for AI?
 
it it works, set up view matrix so it looks in -Z
@Jeffrey it's used for space missions, so why not.
 
@Jeffrey so the lisp coders say
 
7:36 PM
It's such an elegant language, but seems too basic to be really used for something serious. I guess I was wrong then...
 
Ell
I don't quite understand it.left, right, bottom and top - are the the maximum coordinates in view? (in the frustum?)
 
@Ell it's not a frustum. It's a box.
i forgot the damn name...
cuboid!
 
@Jeffrey What's basic about Lisp?
 
Ell
Right, because it's an ortho?
 
7:38 PM
it's orthogonal
 
Ell
Yes
if it was perspective it'd be frustum?
 
which means view lines are perpendicular to each other and never meet
@Ell yes
 
Ell
okay
 
In geometry, a frustum (plural: frusta or frustums) is the portion of a solid (normally a cone or pyramid) that lies between two parallel planes cutting it. Because the point at the top is removed, there is no vertex in this figure as opposed to one vertex. The term is commonly used in computer graphics to describe the three-dimensional region which is visible on the screen, the "viewing frustum", which is formed by a clipped pyramid; in particular, frustum culling is a method of hidden surface determination. In the aerospace industry, frustum is the common term for the fairing between ...
 
fuck not perpendicular
I am too bad at math in english
 
Ell
7:39 PM
Parallel
 
parallel!
In mathematics, orthogonality is the relation of two lines at right angles to one another (perpendicularity), and the generalization of this relation into n dimensions; and to a variety of mathematical relations thought of as describing non-overlapping, uncorrelated, or independent objects of some kind. The concept of orthogonality has been broadly generalized in mathematics, science, and engineering, especially since the beginning of the 16th century. Much of it has involved the concepts of mathematical functions, calculus, and linear algebra. Etymology The word comes from the Greek...
 
Ell
It's okay, I knew what you meant
 
Ell
You don't suck :P
 
@ScottW More than C++ that's for sure
 
7:40 PM
anyway, try what I wrote, friends dragged me to a LoL game
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, thanks :)
 
my mind has molten
:/
this code defies all logic
lol
 
@ScottW Choose PNG, forget all the other shitty formats.
 
Both PNG and JPG have valid non-overlapping use cases so
 
their uses are disjoint sets
 
Ell
7:47 PM
jpeg for photo, png for not photo :P
 
JPG is lossy and creates really ugly artefacts though.
 
Which don't matter in many cases
 
It's not nice. =[
 
While saving a lot of space
 
Well, fuck reality.
PNG + DDS all day long.
 
7:48 PM
RAW
is the way to go
nothing lost
 
Lol
 
Ell
.xcf
 
.me
 
Ell
7:49 PM
.weefreemen
 
.nofucksgiven
.doc
 
Ell
.so
 
std::wstream_buffer seems kind of useless. When do you have an std::streambuf but no std::basic_istream<CharT> to already provide a wide interface anyway? Alright, break for now, will return to the fun later.
 
.bby
 
7:50 PM
oh you broke it
.ub
 
@LucDanton Most things about wchar_t are useless
 
thphd.ub
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Whenever someone write "composable", I read "compostable".
 
Ell
dern. Ortho isn't working either :/
 
tony.lion
 
7:51 PM
Yeah you can stop that now
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not about wchar_t.
 
Ell
Yeah, cat. It's not about wchat_t.
 
@CatPlusPlus The intolerance is strong with this one
 
Ell
I feel like even if the whole lounge ganged up on the cat, he'd somehow win still.
 
he'd probably get even more grumpy
his grump is boundless
O(infinity)
 
7:53 PM
lol
 
I worry about Cat
4
 
This with this is just awesome.
 
It can't be good to be grumpy all the time
 
@EtiennedeMartel 'Combustible'
 
Okay got it. An std::basic_[io]stream<CharT> uses an std::basic_streambuf<CharT>. std::wstream_convert does the std::basic_streambuf<char> <-> std::basic_streambuf<CharT> dance.
 
7:55 PM
Could anyone guess why my Qt resources (32x32 images) aren't showing up when I run the app? ;_;
 
you haven't loaded them properly?
but a debugger should tell you
 
user142019
Holy cuntsuck.
 
user142019
I'm still alive.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm using QtCreator but with manually built Qt libraries. I managed to set them up to work with the creator but I didn't setup a debugger yet. :c
@rightfold Wat hapnd brony
 
user142019
7:59 PM
@Tuntuni Apparently not death.
 
@rightfold Erm.. obviously... Q_Q
 

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