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1:00 AM
I forgot that people stop having fun over the age of 20.
 
user142019
Please effectively hellban.
 
@rightfold guess whatI discovered about minecraft?
 
It's blocky and boring?
 
It's in Java?
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 That it's awesome?
 
1:02 AM
conflicting views
 
user142019
brb gettin sausage roll
 
@rightfold I already knew that. I figured out, cacti have a bottom texture. It is tan. Makes sense, but I didn't think it existed. I also learned that variant blocks (say, stairs) take the texture of their parent material.
 
It's almost a fact that Minecraft wouldn't exist today without Java because Notch can't write shit in other languages. Radek hates Java, Radek loves Minecraft henceforth loves Java.
 
Radek?
 
Ell
Yeah y'know
Daknok
 
1:04 AM
Daknok, Zoidberg, vacuum cleaner, rightfold...
 
I thought Zoidberg hated Java?
 
leftfold, manifold
 
42?
 
user142019
I do.
 
user142019
Fuck Java.
 
user142019
1:07 AM
But the fact that Java sucks doesn't immediately make programs written in Java suck.
 
It doesn't?
 
user142019
Uh no.
 
It doesn't?
 
user142019
Look at how awesome Minecraft is.
 
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And how shitty Java is.
 
1:08 AM
.jar can suck my dick. :$
 
It doesn't?
 
user142019
Java makes me cry out of sadness. Minecraft makes me cry out of happiness.
 
...
 
Minecraft makes me cry because it crashed while saving and lost all my shit
 
The demo?
 
user142019
1:09 AM
@Borgleader your fault.
 
user142019
You should do back-ups.
 
You sound like Apple.
 
user142019
Okay, kind of Minecraft's fault since it doesn't do atomic file writing. :P
 
admit it, minecraft would be so much better in C++
 
"Wtf dude the new iPhone has no reception." "No dear customer dumbass, you're holding it wrong"
 
user142019
1:11 AM
Atomic file writing isn't really too difficult.
 
user142019
You write to temporary file and then move it.
 
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But people seem to forget it and write crappy software that corrupts files on crashes.
 
that was my first thought when it happened, "how fucking hard would it have been to do a temp file and only replace if the operation succeeded"
 
@Johann not if the userbase ranted and overran their HQ because it takes them a year to rewrite it.
 
I never said they should rewrite it. 0_0
 
1:12 AM
How else would it be C++?
 
it wouldn't
that is kind of obvious
 
> minecraft would be so much better in C++
How do you propose this happens?
 
WOULD. LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF WOULD PLEASE.
IT would be nice if I had a unicorn.
It is impossible for me to have a unicorn.
 
Bartek will make it
2
 
user142019
Buy a post-'80s computer and running Minecraft isn't a problem.
 
1:14 AM
:P
 
@Johann Are you saying you wished it started in C++, then?
 
@Pawnguy7 correct
 
That reminds me. Reading the dev log was interesting.
 
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This website is awesome.
 
1:25 AM
 
@DomagojPandža o_o
 
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@DomagojPandža I like the ad in the bottom of the image.
 
@rightfold 0_0
 
"Jesus shot from guns."
"Penis takes good care of you."
"Any questions? Penis is the right answer."
 
1:27 AM
"Minecraft - The smartest thing on earth."
 
Penis is a female force.
AHAHAH
 
@rightfold "There is no life without My Little Pony."
 
user142019
I agree.
 
Then how did you live before watching it?
 
Friendship is magic. And friendship's where the Lounge's at.
 
user142019
1:29 AM
My Little Lounge: C++ is Magic
6
 
loll
 
With time, understanding cometh and washeth away the magic.
 
"Colorful ponies saves life" - ok then?
is Python interpreted?
 
Does a bear shit in the woods? Usually, yes. But that doesn't mean he can't take a shit on the freeway.
 
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1:38 AM
Anybody have ideas for what pixel art I should try to make?
 
Ask yourself one question -- What do you need? And the answer should come.
 
I don't need anything. I just feel like doing pixel art.
 
Pass.
 
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@Pawnguy7 Fluttershy.
 
1:50 AM
best logitech ad
 
What have I done :\
The legs didn't look to bad, though.
 
user1357851
yeah, I wonder whether there would be a huge population of the over 60yo online gamers in 50 years time
 
user142019
That looks like an earthworm with legs.
 
That doesn't look.
 
@Pawnguy7 What is it supposed to be?
 
user1357851
1:53 AM
sausage with earth worm legs
 
@Telkitty That kid was hilarious though. The headset is so big compared to her head xD
 
Oh. It is yellow. I thought it was pink.
 
user142019
 
I realized I need more than 32x32
 
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1:55 AM
Just pick a 1000x1000 canvas.
 
The cat will piss in his pants if he sees these. :)
 
No one cares about the cat.
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 You can start by trying to overlay an already existing image.
 
It's Sunday.
 
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2 hours ago, by rightfold
Cat's asleep, post ponies!
 
1:56 AM
@rightfold I don't plan to make it that big.
 
user142019
Take a small existing image!
 
@Pawnguy7 It's a mutant penis.
 
I was hoping to be a bit more origional.
 
user142019
@Rapptz It's Monday, merkin.
 
@EtiennedeMartel your guess is as good as mine at this point
 
1:57 AM
I'm all about penises.
 
user1357851
daycare centre for young kids
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 You need to start somewhere. You can't be a star pixel artist at once.
 
Perhaps.
Although, I did get a star.
 
user1357851
 
repost
 
1:59 AM
Does anyone know how to use ogonek?
 
user142019
I do.
 
user142019
Also, see the documentation.
 
Ah, that might be the issue. I haven't found any documentation yet
 
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user142019
@DeadMG binmaster we need you wake up Lord.
 
2:01 AM
@rightfold thanks. Bookmarked!
 
@Mysticial
 
user142019
@MooingDuck The most important bit is basically ogonek::text<encoding> where encoding can be ogonek::utf8 or ogonek::utf32 or whatever encoding you want.
 
user142019
It's like std::string++.
 
@Mysticial A bin request!
 
2:02 AM
You know, guys, I can do it too.
 
@DeadMG Binmaster, your destructive touch is needed here.
Ah, the pony lover saves.
 
BinMartel to the rescue :)
 
hrm
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Change "Puppy" to "Etienne" in the room description. :)
 
ahaha
 
2:02 AM
I'm not the Binmaster.
I only bin shit in case of emergencies.
 
"If you don't have the passion for it and don't care about games, you're not helping the games industry, you're just there. Bragging about being associated with the newest Call of Duty Modern Masturbation -- just don't do that... Go fuck yourself."
I love the Annoyed Gamer <3
Also, guys, are we the biggest chat room on the entire Stack Exchange network?
 
Domagoj, are you still considering buying the Star Trek game?
 
I would like to bring this up bash.org/?244321
 
@Borgleader It is shit. :(
Such a goddamn shame.
 
That's why I'm asking. I saw your statement about buying it and then I heard all the shit about the game.
 
2:07 AM
@DomagojPandža It's a licensed game.
Licensed games are shit.
Wait, I work for a company that makes licensed games.
Wooopdidooooo~
 
Oh, the things I'd do with a Star Trek license. Most of you can smell it, choice-infested single player RPG.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel Arkham.
 
@DomagojPandža You mean Mass Effect, Star Trek edition?
I like your complete and utter lack of creativity.
@rightfold Ssshhh.
 
Since when is choice a Mass Effect thing?
 
@DomagojPandža It is when you're talking about a sci-fi single player RPG.
 
2:11 AM
And before it was KotOR. :D
 
Right, Star Wars.
 
KotOR <3<3<3<3<3
 
You're really breaking new ground with this one.
So, what, instead of "Knights of the Old Republic", we'll have "Officers of the United Federation"?
 
Why not the Maquis or some other disgruntled organization in the Star Trek Universe? Show the other side of the story? :P
 
That has nothing to do with the actual game.
 
user142019
2:13 AM
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
 
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I'm going to see Amon Amarth live. :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
> Amon Amarth is a melodic death metal band
Oh, well.
I can smell the showoff from here.
 
Oh, gawd, daknok. Can't you listen to something more cute?
 
Like racist barns.
 
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@DomagojPandža Aren't they just great? :D
 
2:15 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Which game? :D
 
@DomagojPandža I'm shaking my fist at you.
 
user142019
Angerfist.
 
You don't have to call a Star Trek licensed work Star Trek. You still need a valid license to kill Starfleet officers and blow up their ships.
 
I got the color right this time anyway :D
 
user142019
My Little Worm
 
2:16 AM
That is about the only positive :\
 
What the fuck is that?
 
@Pawnguy7 It's a start.
 
I cannot get the body shape.
 
@DomagojPandža It's supposed to be Fluttershy.
 
Higher, perhaps?
 
2:17 AM
Looks like a peanus with legs. With the balls upside down covered with a pink scarf.
 
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@Pawnguy7 The body should be fatter and shorter. Also: wings. :)
 
@Pawnguy7 I don't have art skills so I don't have any advice but keeping working at it
 
My kind of drum work.
 
user142019
Meppel? That's in The Netherlands!
 
2:18 AM
Etienne, I didn't know you were so obsessed with experimental gameplay. :D
I guess I've always seen games as "Live your fantasy" kind of deal, rather than curious abstract fun gizmos.
 
@DomagojPandža The game that blew my mind the most in 2012 was Spec Ops: The Line, and that wasn't fun.
 
Oh. It has wings.
Those things are small.
 
And most of my design ideas aren't terribly original.
 
I just amputated a MLP :\
 
@EtiennedeMartel What about it made you squirm? :D
 
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2:23 AM
 
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@Pawnguy7 think outside the box.
 
is that a pixelize filter?
 
Apply a box filter, downsample it. :P
 
user142019
@Borgleader shush.
 
@DomagojPandža It was disturbing, challenging, physically painful and it kept insulting me.
 
2:25 AM
I see it has an interesting moral factor to it.
 
user142019
I once played a game that had tic tac toe as its loading screen.
 
@DomagojPandža It keeps telling you to do something, and then chastises you for doing it.
There are "moral choices", but they are not explicit (such as a time where you have to choose who dies between two persons, but you can instead aim for the snipers who are there to make sure you pick one).
At the end of the game, one character says to your protagonist: "None of this would've happened if you just stopped."
And there I realized it wasn't aimed at the character. It was aimed at me.
Nobody forced me to go through that. But I did.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, uhm -- you did pay moneys for it.
 
So, yes. Spec Ops: The Line. Not fun, but engaging as fuck.
@DomagojPandža It's not about that.
 
Isn't that a kind of fun though? Being engaged
 
user142019
2:30 AM
Nothing is as fun as Lounge<C++>.
 
@ShafikYaghmour Not exactly. Even the shooting isn't fun (which was done on purpose).
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hmm, it seems I'm unoriginal again considering that example, hah. Usually, in games -- I thought -- that choices are made with a simple click to cutscene dialogue. I've always felt that control shouldn't be taken away from the player and that choices are there, but he has to find them himself.
Like the obscure choice of aiming at the snipers. The little things.
 
user142019
Man.
 
user142019
I'm hungry.
 
@DomagojPandža There's a point where a crowd of angry people bars your way. I shot at them to clear the way, but I later learned that it's possible to shoot in the air and make them flee.
 
user142019
2:32 AM
All I ate since I woke up was noodles, a sausage roll, a bag of crisps and a pack of chocolate cookies.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's it! In Mass Effect you have the paragon choice up and renegade choice down. And the I don't give a fuck middle.
 
It no longer looks like a worm anyway.
 
@DomagojPandža But the key is this: there is no prompt. No menu option.
 
The head looks messed up.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yup. And no direct repercussions and karma counter takedowns.
 
2:33 AM
@EtiennedeMartel It is kind'a old school I guess but some people like banging away to figure that out themselves
 
@DomagojPandža Except on your mental health.
Anyway. Play that game, guys.
It's kinda short (6-7 hours), so wait until it goes on sale on Steam.
But it's the first time I actually see a video game drama. A story that's actually sad and depressing from start to finish.
 
Thoughts, Zoidberg?
 
user142019
That's a huge improvement.
 
I can appreciate such games, but mentally they don't feel really good. And I feel lousy after playing them.
 
@DomagojPandža That's exactly the point.
 
2:35 AM
@rightfold What is wrong with the head? I know something isn't right.
 
@DomagojPandža I think that is the point
 
I know, that's why I can't really force myself into playing them. I like shit like saving the galaxy and making rabbits fuck rainbows.
 
I think that games are a mature enough medium now that we can explore a wider range of emotions than just short term joy.
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 Small eyes, no ears, hair is too thin.
 
I was sad playing ME3
 
2:36 AM
Oh. I forgot the wings again.
 
user142019
:P
 
I think you're right on all three counts though.
 
user142019
Also, try making it a little less straight.
 
I was pissed off at ME3's ending. I knew they didn't have it in them to put a decent ending paragraph on the premise.
 
The backbone?
 
user142019
2:36 AM
As in, the body.
 
@Borgleader I was frustrated at the ending, but otherwise it was some epic feeling of accomplishment when I got all perfect paragon choices.
Saving Legion and Tali? Fuck yeaaaah.
 
(Well, not really Legion. He dies anyway)
(But you get the point)
 
this still makes me feel sad
 
user142019
I like it when people sketch things on paper, scan them and then color with Photoshop. It often looks great.
 
2:38 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Planescape Torment was one of the best games I played that really messed with you
 
From the get-go, from meeting Sovereign on Virmire -- I knew that they would try to put a backstory to the Reapers and justify their existence. And fail miserably doing so. But the Catalyst thingie was really shitty.
 
@ShafikYaghmour Now, if only we could get that kind of things with games that aren't RPGs.
 
user142019
Oh no Cat's here.
 
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All watch out.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Resident Evil is not exactly an RPG and had alot of those elements
 
2:39 AM
I hate plot holes. Especially when a game sells on the fact it has a story.
 
@ShafikYaghmour Resident Evil was incredibly badly written.
 
I remember first seeing this. I was so damn excited.
And thinking that those guys actually used an engine which wasn't written by them and formed all of the game logic on top off UnrealScript and Kismet... And did all that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The writing was not that great but the tension was awesome and at the time was not bad, I have not really kept up anything recent so I realize my frame of reference is a bit off
 
One of the things I really found curious about them was that one of the head honchos of BioWare Edmonton was actually a garbage truck driver with no programming experience before enrolling with BioWare.
Preston Watamanluk, that one. Also, he had a degree in "political science history", to be fair.
 
user142019
Boo.
 
2:47 AM
@ShafikYaghmour The best RE was 4, and that's mostly because they essentially rebooted the whole thing, with only minor references to the actual canon.
It's like they realized how crappy the whole franchise was, so they distanced themselves from that as much as possible.
 
Then they decided to repeat their previous mistakes with RE5 and RE6.
 
Also, the head head head honcho, Casey Hudson -- he was actually hired as a technical artist. Sometimes, I wonder how the hell these guys pulled it off.
 
Magic Sparklz® included @rightfold
 
user142019
Is there a single verb that means "to die from a disease"?
 
2:49 AM
@DomagojPandža Hard work.
Like anything else.
 
Yeah, but a garbage truck driver with no prior history, D&D nerd turned programmer in office and a technical artist? You can polish a turd, it's still a turd.
 
@rightfold cannot think of any, what situation are you in? Or, circumstance.
 
13 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
PONIES PONIES LOOK PONIES LOOK LOOK CAN'T SHUT UP ABOUT PONIES
 
user142019
Something like "I'm dying from cancer." but maybe there's a more specific word instead of "dying".
 
suffering?
Hm...
 
user142019
2:51 AM
3 hours ago, by rightfold
Cat's asleep, post ponies!
 
Here's some actually very curious statistics -- 87.2% of sampled players said that they customized Shepard's face. Which is curious, because custom morphed faces suck intense cock. 64.59% people played as soldier and only 18% of all careers were FemSheps. About 54% actually imported their save from Mass Effect 1.
 
@rightfold see my most recent version?
 
user142019
Yes.
 
@DomagojPandža DAT FUCKING SONG... NERD CHILLLSSSSSSS
 
It has ears... sort of. And wings.
Actually, it has an ear. I have an idea how I can get two in, though.
 
2:53 AM
@Borgleader Yes, I love it, too. :D Uncharted Worlds. Eargasm. :D
It really has that signature THE GALAXY IS YOUR FUCKING PLAYGROUND, DOOD vibe
 
Did you watch the backtrack episode on the ME soundtrack?
 
I've watched everything Mass Effect related. Even bought the Final Hours Of Mass Effect 3, a post-mortem basically on ME3 by the developers. That's where the statistics are coming from up there, actually.
 
user1357851
I think they found traces of pony/horse meat in the cat food
 
Codename SFX, Mass Effect was born in September of fucking 2003. at Yiannis Taverna on Whyte Avenue in Edmonton.
Here's the original design doc/pitch. Notice it has nothing to do with what Mass Effect became, very coarse and udefined -- broad strokes. :D
 
@DomagojPandža It also manages to tell fucking nothing.
 
2:58 AM
I know, right? It boggles my mind that they gave a go to something so fucking obscure. It's like a childhood dream of everyone. SPACESHIPS. SPACE. GAME.
What kind of game? What kind of Universe? What spaceships? What the fuck? It's like self-glorification, promises with no background. Yet, they managed to deliver.
 
They hit it straight on with their target release, though.
 
Composing Mass Effect Episode 1, 2, and 3. So awesome.
 
You can tell it's a pitch from the first point
 
I like the "online capabilities" part. And the naming convention for the X360 "Xbox 2"
 
That's all you need
 

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