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16:02
The arrow
looool
@EtiennedeMartel Relevant to what?
@kbok Hmm...well, one of their competitors was kind of funny years ago. At one time there was apparently a ring of people working at UPS who were slipping some "extras" into specific boxes. Some called it "United Pot Shippers" for a while...
TOPICAL COMMENTARY
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What's going on.
user1357851
16:05
Cat should eat more cookies, I wanna C a fat cat
@JerryCoffin lol, for real? Your postal service is boring, just like you expect it to be
user1357851
Like I'd post my photo online ever
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, please.
@CatPlusPlus like anyone want to see it
user1357851
Cat is either really fat or really skinny ... I go for the later
@kbok Well, I can't say I personally verified the content or anything, but they apparently arrested several people and confiscated several kilos of drugs (with, of course, an estimated street value slightly greater than the GDP of most countries).
^ dunno what's written there
16:11
yeah, it is
@LightnessRacesinOrbit An actual reasonable discussion on Kotaku? Color me intrigued.
Impossible
Male: Horse. Female: Mare.
Male: Bull. Female: Cow.
Male: Rooster. Female: Hen.
Male: Neckbeard. Female: Feminist blogger.
haha, lol
Are SO data dumps still made?
No.
You have the data explorer now.
user1357851
16:17
I'd like a dump of chat stuff
Is there chat archives as well?
Btw, I own loungeipsum.com.
16:20
Why?
Domains are dirt cheap these days
user1357851
Robot & Cat++ should get together in real life sometimes, you two are so close, only 3 hours drive :x
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't usually buy domain names when I'm drunk.
I don't usually not buy domain names when I'm not sober
user1357851
16:22
you don't 'buy' domain names, you rent them
@Telkitty do you wanna crossbreed them?
@kbok To be honest, I usually don't do crazy stuff when I'm drunk. Worst I've done was saying horrible things about someone's mother followed by "OMG that was horrible!"
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Hmm.. Bjarne seems to want to introduce this for terse concepts:
 template Mergeable{For,For2,Out}
 void merge(For p, For q, For2 p1, For2, Out oo);
user1357851
@Abyx I am not sure they are crossbreedable
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I don't quite like the {} :|
16:23
@R.MartinhoFernandes Buying a domain name is hardly crazy stuff. Much less crazy than buying a $25 drink to a girl you don't know.
(Yeah, Paris is an expensive place)
user1357851
why would you buy a drink to a girl you don't know of?
Buy a 25$ domain for a girl you don't know instead
user1357851
rent*
@Telkitty Guess.
@Telkitty Because he was drunk and horny.
16:24
@Telkitty Ever been to a bar?
user1357851
usually with colleagues
@Xeo uhm, and what's in Mergeable?
user1357851
I am not a bar person
@CatPlusPlus Not sure she'd like it
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@Abyx Mergable is a concept - or do you mean what's inside the {}?
16:25
Me neither but I am still aware of the "buy a drink in hopes to get laid" concept
> I'm not sure what you're getting at here. "Where" will be when they transcode strings. Transcoding can't be hidden in this system, because it's right there in the type system. Any time you try to copy/move a unicode_string<A> into a unicode_string<B>, you get a transcode. This is not difficult to track down.
@Abyx Probably some kind of concept definition.
hehe, Nicol totally wants ogonek.
So it's something like "For, For1 and Out are Mergeable things"?
A concept for ranges that can be merged
user1357851
16:25
$25 hooker, guaranteed return :x
@Xeo I mean how is it implemented -- does it copy "merge" or not
@Telkitty guaranteed STI
Not really
I can't wait to see C++ syntax in C++2x or whatever
I can't wait to see C++41
It'll be so hilariously bad
It is even now and they're still trying to add new things to it
user1357851
16:27
@kbok what's your success rate with your $25 drinks?
@kbok I sure hope somebody's designed a viable alternative to C++ by then!
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Robot, you need to get on SG8 and shout loudly about concepts lite. :(
@JerryCoffin D.
@JerryCoffin Wide ;)
user1357851
16:28
@kbok think some of us would be retired by then
@Telkitty If you define "success" as "getting laid" then it's 0%
@Abyx Is that a "horrified" smiley (D:) with only an eye?
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep, it is
user1357851
@kbok better rent a domain then
@Telkitty Well, buying domain names didn't got me laid either
16:29
Oh, you tried it?
lol
user1357851
@kbok you are obviously doing it the wrong way
I bought domain names, yes. I never expected such an outcome though
stacked-crooked.com got me zero lays thus far
user1357851
let's change topic >_<
16:30
Maybe .com domains are not the good ones.
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@StackedCrooked Because the ladies don't know where you live! :P
@StackedCrooked .xxx?
@Xeo I wouldn't want them to :P
(Those are expensive as fuck, btw)
@Telkitty do you have any positive experience?
16:31
@R.MartinhoFernandes pun intended?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really. Maybe .rich :)
My point is that you pay a girl a drink to engage conversation, not to get her in your bed. That might be some people's objective but it's not the only thing that matters. Hopefully.
monaco or something
@StackedCrooked Hmm, now you can actually get that. Fuck ICANN.
16:32
@R.MartinhoFernandes I still own codesuppository.com
need to do something
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lolwut
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Where can I send my snippets
user1357851
@Abyx make a billion from the site like google or facebook, then you would be swarmed by gold digging chicks. They are usually low quality, but since you did not say you want high quality girls to be laid with, I think that answers your question
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Why the heck did you think of that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Me and @Etienne (IIRC) are gonna make a dailywtf-SO bastard lovechild
the name seemed apt
@Telkitty you're such a telkitty
You are so totally going to work on that ASAP
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm waiting for it.
user1357851
I believe girls should pay half when going to dinner :p
16:33
@StackedCrooked keep at it
@JerryCoffin Ow.
@Telkitty There are girls that insist on doing that.
SO chat is doing that "not autoscrolling" thing again
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The bane of my existence.
Just as I concluded that switching to Chrome had fixed it
@StackedCrooked Yeah?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Among others.
user1357851
@StackedCrooked yeah I have also dated guys who insist on paying. Personally I don't like that
user1357851
What I also do not like is sleazy guys
sleazy?
@ScottW As long as he read the newbie hints.
16:36
@R.MartinhoFernandes At least I didn't use LMGTFY.
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Robot, you still haven't said yes to getting on SG8 and shouting.
@kbok That might be a great domain name.
@Xeo ...
I really am not having a good week for organizing my thoughts on that.
@StackedCrooked sleazydog.com
user1357851
Last weekend, this guy asked me 'are you free', I was like 'yeah, you are welcome to come over, maybe we can have dinner at a nearby place', he was like 'too far to drive, can I sleep with you in your bedroom'
user1357851
16:37
wth
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@R.MartinhoFernandes heh, I guess
With all those Mondays around
"There was this guy who wanted to come over and he wanted to have sex what the fuck??"
@Telkitty what a weird guy
Well, yeah. Who the hell would want to fuck Telkitty?
user1357851
Well the issue is that he doesn't want to do anything else, he just want to come over and have sex, but that's not what I am after
16:39
@Xeo I started a post about how I went from iterators -> boost.range -> taussig in ogonek last Sunday, but I haven't gotten past two paragraphs yet.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You, probably :P
likely to be the single most disturbing night of your life
"right, now hold this cake there.. mmm yeah just like that"
@R.MartinhoFernandes taussig?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Btw, is RTL == Taussig now?
16:40
@Telkitty sounds perfectly reasonable
j/k
@Xeo No. RTL was using D's design unaltered. Taussig is shaped by ogonek's needs.
Xeo
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mhm
But there are indeed similarities.
@Telkitty Could he have mistaken you for a prostitute?
user1357851
He knew me for over 2 years
16:42
Is that a yes, or a no?
Is C++14 well on schedule for 2014?
user1357851
is that a question, do I act like a prostitute ever?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
@Telkitty I suppose
@StackedCrooked Sounds it
@Telkitty we don't know, we can only base on your avatar
(Just kidding btw.)
16:44
@Borgleader I'm working at getting the puppy to morph into Obi Wan, hoping that if I cut him down, he will be come more powerful than I can imagine! :-)
@StackedCrooked nah, C++14 will be in 2015
user1357851
I think if he thought me as a prostitute, he would have mentioned how much do I charge
user1357851
I don't remember he ever mentioned that
@Telkitty you said "free"
user1357851
16:46
@Abyx next time when a girl you like ask you whether you are free on the weekend
user1357851
tell her you only cost $20 a day
user1357851
If you don't like her, charge $200
@StackedCrooked why.. would you wanna watch that? he didn't exactly convince me to listen to him during the first 6 minutes
@StackedCrooked ...and good lines: "I cannot even assume that those of you who program in C++ know C++."
16:49
and the people in the room are.. fcuk, I would be so annoyed being in there
TURN THE FUCKING WARNINGS UP!
@JerryCoffin Very true :)
@StackedCrooked Sadly, yes.
@refp it helps me understand the original vision of the stl (which may be considered outdated by some people, but I think it's still valuable to know)
17:08
@Xeo was it a answer along those lines that you felt was missing before?
@Borgleader Well, somewhat high. They projected sales of 4 million consoles, and actually sold 3.45 million. That's an error of about 16%. Yes, that leads to a much larger swing in profits, but in terms of unit sales it's not all that huge of a short fall.
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Ohoo, Variant proposal underway.
@Xeo I'm not sure if it was the same thing I read earlier, care to link to the proposal?
@Xeo cool, but seems like C++17 only
Xeo
Xeo
17:11
@refp No link yet
@Xeo blogpost at isocpp.org?
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Xeo
No, mail in std-proposals that there is such a proposal underway :P
@Xeo oh, I'm not part of that mailinglist
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Also, I should start a Clang fork for []stuff
@Xeo []stuff?
Xeo
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17:13
[]stuff.
Maybe also [].stuff
what is []stuff
> pointer subtraction is preferred to std::distance -- Stepanov
wat!? why?
It's simpler and easier to understand for non-advanced programmers.
17:15
fuck dumbing down stuff for noobs
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Totally
I don't actually agree but fine
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I say it's not, and that a named function is easier.
4
See 28 minute mark of the linked video.
I guess Stepanov lived in a time where C was dominant.
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I mean, pointer arithmetic induces a pretty hard mind-rape for many people - how can he expect that to be easier to understand than a function whose name says exactly what it does?
17:17
@Xeo Remember to not point your arrows at me :)
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I'll point my named functions at you :P
Stepanov seems rather controversial here.
Pointer arithmetic shouldn't be there in the first place
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@StackedCrooked (I'm not arguing with you as my target, it's a general rant open for discussion. :) )
user142019
Pointer arithmetic is great.
17:20
Pointer arithmetic is pathetically useless
user142019
Everything is.
Humanity has declined.
Pointer arithmetic is simple, especially in C, because of arrays, yes \/
You can only do it within arrays anyway, so you might as well just define array indexing as a primitive operation and forget about pointer arithmetic
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, time to pick a tech.
And by that, I mean "not PHP".
user142019
17:24
PHP is great.
@Zoidberg It's a great heap of unpleasantry.
user142019
I'm happy. My software works.
user142019
And it's partially written in one of the worst languages ever.
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Cool, the guy I accidentally replied to on std-proposals just forwarded my mail to the list.
PHP is awesome guys
you can make secure websites with PHP
user142019
17:29
You can also do that with C#. Your point?
in C#, 17 mins ago, by Lews Therin
lol @3:25 ^
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@Zoidberg So, how far along are you in MLP?
user142019
I last watched the last episode of the first season.
Oh, you will enjoy the first episodes of season 2.
@Zoidberg Aaaaat the gaaalaaaaaa
Discord is teh awesome.
Ell
Ell
17:32
TIL Stepanov can't use g++
There really is an obsession with young people programming
user142019
@JohanLarsson LOL
user142019
A real programmer.
yay
I am a pro linux user
user142019
nay
17:34
I figured out how to ioctl my shit
user142019
inb4 Ubuntu
^ dat pull request
user142019
@kbok ewwwwwwwwww inconsistent tense
@BartekBanachewicz somebody pays you for using it?
17:34
@Zoidberg no, chrooted debian on android
Ell
Ell
@JohanLarsson his life must suck at uni :O
user142019
Debian is just as crappy. :3
@Abyx nah, I can't afford RPi right now so I am making the most of my HTC Magic
@BartekBanachewicz You can't afford a Pi?
> right now
it's end of the month and I bought Nexus 4
17:36
It's like 25$
a tad more here
user142019
Your internet connection is more expensive.
user142019
Oh.
Ah, ok.
Because this is cheaper than eating out
Don't eat, get raspberry pi instead
@Ell something is not right, he says he loves Apple, maybe fake?
17:37
I can eat out for 10 bucks here :/
Well, you're lucky
also I like to revive old hw
my magic has 528Mhz CPU and 256MB of ram
or 192, I don't remember
I have tons of old IBM PCs with 200Mhz CPU and I don't have the courage to throw them away
Well "tons" I have 4
render slaves :p
17:38
in my parents' basement :3
or...electrical heating?
Yeah that :p
@melak47 lol, my phone has more processing power
So they're like 300km away
coool
sshd up
gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1)
oooooh.
that's gonna hurt, I guess
blergh, and I can't really compile new one there
user142019
17:41
LOL
I need ARM build of 4.7.2
I'm afraid the job hunt is going in the wrong direction
I don't want to land in yet another C/C++ programming job
tried Intel?
:P
17:43
Haha why not
Though applying through the website rarely yields results
hm, not quite.
anyway, doesn't hurt, huh?
MemFree: 2480 kB
what the fuck
> - Familiarity with programming in C/C++, Java, and/or C#
Well.
user142019
LOL
user142019
C/C++/Java/C#
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it really depends on the division and alll kinds of stuff
17:45
Maybe I should just pick up a C# job after all
user142019
C# is fun.
So is J++.
@BartekBanachewicz that ought to be enough for everyone :D
lololololo
gcc 4.3 already has -std=c++0x
The JB update for my Xperia P is out, but it's not acquirable.
if that's even a word
17:47
meh vendor OS
that's why Nexus phones/tablets > all
lol that's a vendor OS nonetheless.
you just get the update from the source.
for your huge-ass phone
Ell
Ell
I didn't know that the order of evaluation of arguments to a function isn't defined :3
@rubenvb no
Nexuses have pure Android
without any modifications/shit installed
only google stuff
user142019
@Ell now you do.
Ell
Ell
And the google stuff is good
user142019
17:51
I want to make software.
no you don't
localhost:~# ./main
[OK] 1048576
....
[OK] 18874368
[OK] 19922944
meh, maybe too big
@EtiennedeMartel Any suggestions?
anyway, it allocates 20MB without a problem
@BartekBanachewicz which is your vendor.
Amazon Android has no Google stuff. Although I agree it's quite necessary
@rubenvb technically, yes. But since it's also the creator of Android, that's a common ground for everyone. Now other vendors add their shit
17:54
Why does boost::unique_ptr use compressed_pair?
@rubenvb oh yeah, Amazon.
@BartekBanachewicz I like Sony's Android quite a lot actually.
I haven't used it TBH
Better than the borken browser I had with HTC.
Nexus has normal Chrome
17:55
I still have the Android browser, which I quite like.
anyway, I like the idea of getting all the updates first
Chrome still has that annoying font bug
So does Firefox.
font size bug?
@rubenvb to not waste space for the deleter
ok, what exciting things I can do with my magic now
17:57
@bamboon do you know how that works?
@BartekBanachewicz pretty much this one: bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84186
@rubenvb no, I am actually not even sure if that was right what I said. I think it has to to with empty base class optimization.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The only Web things I ever used were PHP and ASP.NET.
Why does C have such retarded precedence rules? stackoverflow.com/questions/16199029/…
@TonyTheLion It appears MariaDB is a fork of MySQL.

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