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9:00 PM
Thing is I don't really mind - I manage it fairly well
 
Just so she could get back in, because some other scumbag parked close to the side I had dug out first
 
@ThePhD Only very light snow here today, depriving me of that particular excitement.
 
and blocked anyone from getting in or out.
 
It just means that Top Gear HD, if I want to watch it this evening, will eat up a gig or so
 
Scumbag.
@JerryCoffin One day, I'm going to go outside shirtless and shovel snow.
 
9:00 PM
that's a gig I won't have the next time my overnight downloads fail for whatever reason
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sure, but it'll also be basically the end of the day and you'll get a new cap tomorrow.
 
It's a dream of mine.
 
oh, right
 
@DeadMG No, 20GB monthly....
Your cap is 20GB 9-5 daily?
 
@ThePhD I doubt I will -- almost nobody wants to see me without a shirt.
 
9:01 PM
yep
 
I don't believe you.
 
that's what it was back when I was at university.
> As an example, a size: XL customer on our 60Mb service can download 5,000MB between 4pm and 9pm on a weekday.
 
5GB rather than 20GB
but that's still per day.
 
@DeadMG that area is fortunate to have that extremely high speed provider
 
9:05 PM
yeah, that's Virgin Media's cable for you.
if you don't live in a swamp, you can get super-fast internets, with very generous capacity policies, for a very reasonable price.
 
5 Gig a day is generous? :S
 
Thats 150Gb/month
 
@melak47 I had the XL 60 package. 10GB 10-3, and then another 5GB 4-9, and then unlimited the rest of the time.
 
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Q: why does get_object_vars return protected properties?

clarkkI have used get_object_vars for a while now.. It always only returns public properties of an object, but suddenly it also returns protected vars?!? How can that be? It has never done that before code print_r($row); print_r(get_object_vars($row)); returns Data_model_Accounting Object ( [g...

People like Crowz don't bother reading documentation. ^
 
@DeadMG oh, unlimited the rest of the time
still, those are some complicated traffic use policies :/
 
9:08 PM
@DeadMG: Cost?
 
my ISP is just like "you get 100GB a month, but we don't really care, use as much as you like"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I paid about £30 a month, I think, for broadband alone.
@melak47 Optimized.
 
o.o
That's remarkably good
 
to guarantee the speeds, it's only natural you have to use less at peak times.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you want high-speed Internets, Virgin is basically the only operator that's serious, AFAICT.
 
@DeadMG well, it's not natural for me :p
 
9:09 PM
worth checking if you are in their service area
if you have a real issue with Internets, anyway
 
@DeadMG I'm not going to get cable here. The surrounding area is certainly Virgin-serviced, but there's only phone lines going into the apartments in my block
 
you can get installation for free, I think, on some contracts, or it could cost about £50, if I recall.
 
No, I mean, they would not be legally permitted to perform the installation.
 
oic.
 
It would also be horrendously costly.
 
9:10 PM
well that does admittedly suck.
 
I don't get super fast internets (also not cable), but none of the ISPs I've used before had complicated traffic rules like that. Only ever seen monthly limits enforced, not daily
 
I don't care hugely
 
one of my criteria for "good job" is "area with cable".
 
but I'm also not in the US :)
 
@melak47 Nor am I.
 
9:11 PM
@melak47 and neither is he nor I
 
the daily limits reflect the reality of operating an Internet backbone, monthly limits don't.
 
which is fairly obvious unless the US switched to £ without my knowing about it
 
derp :D
@DeadMG yeah, but I guess German providers don't care / are too lazy / ?
 
well, the more intelligently you use the usage patterns of your users, the higher speeds you can offer.
but why offer high speeds if your competition don't
 
@DeadMG To take their market share?
 
9:13 PM
whereas for Virgin their main weapon is very high speeds, because there are basically no other cable providers.
@Mysticial Eh, apparently German providers are fine without their competitor's market share.
 
Ell
my internet sucks :/ 4mb/s max :/
 
@Ell 4MB/s is not that bad..
 
@melak47 4MB/s != 4mb/s
 
unless you are talking Mbit
 
Ell
@melak47 in reality I get about 1, and not megabyte
 
9:16 PM
@user1690130 I'm pretty much never on on the weekends
 
@ell probably really consistent ping and throughput too
 
@DeadMG MB -> MegaByte, Mb -> Megabit, mb -> ?!
 
Ell
Sorry, should have made it clear - 1 Mbit
 
@DeadMG cable and DSL are offered by mostly separate providers
 
same here
except DSL is getting it's ass kicked thoroughly by cable
 
9:19 PM
Is there a way to make 2 for loops work together at the same time without threads? Not like nested for loops
 
Ell
Actually, I get around 3 megabits
 
@Crowz Wat? How can two instructions execute concurrently without threads?
 
@DeadMG mkay that's what I thought
 
@MooingDuck That is good. Spend time with your family :)
 
9:20 PM
@DeadMG Maybe boost::coroutine?
 
Ell
Oh... oh yes.
 
@Borgleader That's just threads that aren't real hardware threads, IIRC.
 
Ell
oh. Now I'm confused :L somebody tell me what my speed is on that pic :P
 
user142019
Boost.Coroutine allows you to create new call stacks and switch between them. At least, that's the basic idea. It's all on one thread.
 
9:21 PM
I'm still not quite sure how to tie threads together in such a way
 
@Ell should be Mbit/s
 
Ell
considering it says slower than 87%, I'd think so
 
@Ell 'bad'
 
I'm trying to do a ridiculous isPalindrome method (yes I know there are better ways to do it)
 
9:22 PM
and I'm closer to Coventry. Go figure.
 
but that's why geography isn't the same as network topology
 
Ell
it's quite annoying. I switched from talk talk, but it seems that my download hasn't increased at all, but my upload has just decreased
 
is it speedtest time now?
 
Ell
9:22 PM
@Borgleader lucky you :P
 
well..okay
 
@Crowz No
 
UK.. always last
 
@Ell I still live with my parents. It has its perks
 
9:23 PM
Speedtest time? Must be mid 2000s
 
@Borgleader your mom's?
 
user142019
 
Aug 3 '12 at 20:45, by Mysticial
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Ell
@Borgleader ...so do I :'
 
@Rapptz early 2000s actually
 
user142019
9:23 PM
@Mysticial lol
 
lol
 
@Mysticial >_>
 
user142019
> University
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Huh? No, I mean they're paying for the intertubes.
 
Ell
@Mysticial universities don't count :P
 
9:24 PM
@Borgleader nm
 
@Ell It's the only e-penis I have. I'm not allowed to flash it?
 
@Mysticial Holy wtf...oh "University"
 
@Mysticial Nope. Banned. Permanently.
 
@Mysticial How about ycruncher? And your MASSIVE REP
 
@Mysticial pick an off campus server?
 
9:24 PM
someone upvote some things
 
@Borgleader He doesn't really have massive rep.
 
Who's at unversity?
 
Ell
@Mysticial Haha okay you can :P But you also hold world records remember ;)
 
@DeadMG Comapred to me he does
 
@MooingDuck I've been making lots of progress! :)
 
9:25 PM
Haha, more than half of the last 20 messages are pings to me. :P
 
user142019
@Mysticial Really? You have the world record on the number of people misspelling your nickname!
 
@Mysticial one more
 
@Zoidberg Doubt it.
 
user142019
inb4 I'm joking as always.
 
@ping + plonk = lov
 
user142019
9:26 PM
But hey, at least I know C.
4
 
I like poop you guys
 
That's nice Crowz.
 
user142019
Woop woop woop woop woop!
 
@Mysticial That's nice for you.
 
@DeadMG only has more than 99% of most accounts
 
9:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus Agreed, you could call make_shared. However, there's nothing wrong with what I have written. In fact, Meyers uses it on pg 77 of Effective C++ (3rd Edition). — Alex Chamberlain 5 hours ago
 
user142019
SO MUCH OVERHEAD OF NOT USING make_shared.
 
damn
 
I really lack patience for SO
 
user142019
Bin Stack Overflow.
 
I keep finding people who need advice, and then I find myself issuing advice for them but it's really useful advice for me.
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A: A new language's chances

DeadMGTypically, new languages which succeed have one of two things: A ridiculously high quality implementation or other implementation-specific factors (unlikely for your personal project). For example, C# being bundled with VS and having a ton of IDE work done on it by Microsoft. If it wasn't so pus...

 
9:36 PM
> Such as in C#, it's like Java but with actual features.
^^ lol
 
user142019
> Such as in C#, it's like Java but with actual features.
 
user142019
XDXDXD HAHAHAHA
 
user142019
MYSTICIAL Y U MORE FASTER THAN ME. :<
 
This is why the puppy is so awesome. :)
@Zoidberg FGITW
 
@DeadMG LINQ came in 2007 -- where as C# came in 2001.
 
9:37 PM
@Rapptz But did C# take off in 2001?
 
People didn't come rushing to C# because of LINQ, they started using it because of the ease of .NET.
Which I still think they did on purpose.
Because Visual C++ is torture in comparison
 
eh
 
user142019
LINQ is great.
 
that site needs a new theme
 
I think there's no question that C# was positioned to succeed from the outset.
Microsoft made a smart move with that, at least before they started getting intoxicated about it.
besides
 
user142019
9:40 PM
pwnd
 
it also explains my core strategy with Wide- I will have the best C++ interop around
 
user142019
inb4 C++ has the best C++ interop around.
 
in fact, I am only a couple of features away from being able to bootstrap my compiler, I think.
 
user142019
Is the parser available for use by other programs independent of the compiler?
 
hey folks
 
9:43 PM
hey @ShotgunNinja
 
user142019
Hello @ShotgunNinja.
 
thougth you were java
 
@Zoidberg Yes.
as is the lexer
and the analyzer, I believe.
 
user142019
AWESOME I LOVE YOU YOU'RE GREAT.
 
I know
 
9:44 PM
so, I've got a fairly-beginner-level C++ question. I'm trying to compile a polymorphic Shapes lab, and I'm running into nasty vtable errors during linking.
 
Ell
@DeadMG what does cpp/wide hello world look like again?
 
user142019
It enables for decent IDEs. :P
 
Ell
@ShotgunNinja make sure all sources are being compiled? :P
 
@Ell Main() { cpp("<iostream>").std.cout << "Hello, World!"; }
 
user142019
@ShotgunNinja are all virtual member functions implemented, as well as pure-virtual dtors?
 
9:45 PM
 
Ell
do you have to do cpp("<iostream>") every time?
 
user142019
@DeadMG Ganz geil.
 
so right now, not only is the parser independent
 
@Zoidberg Double-checking
 
9:45 PM
@ShotgunNinja SSCCE
 
but you can also directly call the subelements
like ParseExpression
@Ell Uh, right now, you do.
but once I code variables, you won't have to.
 
are there good opengl books?
 
@Zoidberg Wat.
 
oic
 
9:47 PM
Hmm...
 
user142019
Not to be confused with Dutch "geil", which means "horny". xD
 
lol
 
@Zoidberg ...it's not that different in German. just saying...
 
Ell
@DeadMG what type does cpp(...) return?
 
@Ell Magic.
 
Ell
9:48 PM
:3
 
actually, right now, I don't think it has a type.
hmm
it doesn't really have a type
I'm pretty sure that if you did something like cpp("<iostream>") << "Hello, World!", the compiler would crash.
 
Ell
So it's a language construct more than a function?
 
@CCInc He's a prime user
 
hm
 
@Ell Yes, it's definitely a primitive construct. I have a special case for it in the analyzer.
 
user142019
9:51 PM
@DeadMG does it segfault like clang? :D
 
@Zoidberg Only one way to find out!
 
@DeadMG Needs to be $(cpp).include("<iostream>").std.cout << "MOAR jQuery"; for obvious interop
 
user142019
clang is really like: "oh hey this feature is not yet implemented, let's dereference nullptr!"
 
@Zoidberg I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen.
and is exactly what did just happen.
 
user142019
xD
 
9:53 PM
@CCInc Nevermind. I misremembered. He's 2x205171 (still rather prime)
 
@MooingDuck Are you still here? Can we please chat 1-1 if so?
@ShotgunNinja HEY!
 
but hey
unlike Clang, I don't pretend to compile all valid Wide programs.
 
user142019
:P
 
"Gary Kremen, the founder of Match . com lost his girlfriend to a man she met on Match . com."
 
if your program is not Main() { (cpp("<iostream>").std.cout << "string" (<< "string")*;)* }, I make no guarantees of it's behaviour.
 
9:54 PM
poor gary :(
 
user142019
lul
 
@ShotgunNinja are you a mod? You seem cool enough to be one? :)
 
@user1690130 Hell no.
 
but hopefully in the next few days I can do some expansion of that.
 
user142019
It'll also be possible to import C++ headers I hope?
 
user142019
9:55 PM
So you can do like, import cpp("<iostream>"); or something.
 
@Zoidberg That is importing a C++ header.
 
@ShotgunNinja If that was an insult, I apologize
 
user142019
I mean globally.
 
you should be able to do iostream := cpp("<iostream>");
 
user142019
Oh cool.
 
9:56 PM
eventually
 
Is there a mod here with whom I can please kindly speak?
 
but I guarantee that each filepath is only included once, so there's no repeat-include overhead for calling it multiple times
oh
also, did I mention that you can't #include "header", you can only #include <header>.
oh well
these things happen
 
why are we still using operator<< to put into a stream
:(
if there's one thing I dislike about C++ is how ugly ostream is
 
@Rapptz I actually like that operator =/
 
@CatPlusPlus Caaaat I got Scons working <33
 
9:59 PM
@Borgleader In comparison to printf it's pretty lame though.
 
Ell
@DeadMG why?
 

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