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user3010322
8:03 PM
@Xeo I killed a boss, and got a legendary eyesword. :D
 
Hmm, the references seem unnecessary.
 
Xeo
Hm. I'm hungry, thirsty, and too lazy to bother fixing either.
 
I'm well fed. Any OGRE users here?
 
Ell
@CaptainGiraffe OGRE3D?
I attempted to use it a while ago, but I couldn't live with all the singletons n stuff :S
but I want to hear your query
 
@Scarlet sorry, I'm a terrible photographer: imgur.com/a/eFw4S#1 (and I need a bigger desk.)
 
8:17 PM
Yes OGRE 3D is there a better alternative at that threshold?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow, that's really neat! :)
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes That looks pretty nice
 
Ell
@CaptainGiraffe Haven't found one :/ Irrlicht is full of IInterfaces but has less singletons and managers
 
Sadly my laptop only has a VGA output, so I cannot use even a single one yet.
 
user3010322
Lol
 
user3010322
8:18 PM
Get owned.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so freakin awesome
 
I also have more power cables than I'll ever need.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Save one for an emergency hanging in case you forget a semicolon.
 
The monitors can daisy-chain power, so this included five male-female power cables, plus six normal ones, five of which are unused.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's awesome, never seen such a monitor
 
8:20 PM
Where do you keep your screens?
 
@CaptainGiraffe On his desk :)?
 
GNU/Screen =)
 
Now I need to figure out what to do with all this packaging.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, that's the solar panels, where are the monitors?
 
lol
Holy shit, it's 21:30.
I got home at 19.
 
8:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'Fuck, which monitor is the time on?'
 
I need to go out and buy some groceries.
 
No food in the fridge, 6 monitors on the desk.
Neat :).
 
I'm surprised you can afford groceries.
 
@ScarletAmaranth 6!? I only got 3 =/
 
I delayed my world domination plans for this.
 
8:27 PM
@Borgleader I was talking about the robot, I use but one monitor :).
 
Are these things for holding cables?
I'm trying to figure out how they work.
 
Why would the robot use monitors instead of yknow... plugging the hdmi cable in the back of his neck?
 
inb4 Die Welt, page 3, col 2 'Berlin engineer killed by falling monitor stack'.
 
They came in a bag labelled "Clamper". The assembly guide doesn't mention them.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean, like these things?
 
8:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, you just stick the end through one of the holes and pull and then it actually shouldn't go back.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol, best applied engineering ever
 
@CaptainGiraffe what. Ogre is terrible.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh man, I should totally do that...
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, I don't have clips and these things came in the package anyway.
 
8:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes treat them as bonus swag
 
@bamboon Oooh, I see.
 
I figure with 6 screens there can be a lot of cables
 
@bamboon go back easily
 
is therea decent c++decl program to translate between english and gibberish?
 
@nightcracker yeah
 
8:31 PM
cause c++decl sucks at complicated things.
 
@bamboon you also have ones that kinda of don't go back at all, but those are cheap
 
@rubenvb to translate from english to C++ gibberish? That's called a C++ programmer.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz that's what he's saying :3
 
@Ell oh i see
 
@nightcracker know what you are meaning, the ones you have to cut open
 
8:32 PM
time to play some racing
 
@bamboon but for professionals they are even better because they have huge stashes of 'em and can use them at will/cut them away, but for @ home you kind of only have one shot, which is shitty
 
@nightcracker they are cheap ass so if you need to redo just take another one
 
I have multicolour striped ones.
 
I buy them in packages of hundreds
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, well this one sucks.
 
8:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Is there a better alternative?
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, but if you get like cable holders with your mobo they prefer to pack it with re-usable ones, because they don't want to ship hundreds
 
Though most of mine are orange.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Right now they are all "self-contained" behind the screens except for one power cable and the cable for the command (visible in pics). I will only add the DP->miniDP cables to this setup and those I will stick together in a bundle since they'll all plug in the same place. I think it will be quite clean in terms of cables.
 
@CaptainGiraffe what are the requirements?
 
@BartekBanachewicz but if you're doing a serious cabling job I would definitely get the cheap ones as well
 
8:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz A tower defense game FPS style
 
oh BTW i didn't show you my latest buy
 
@CaptainGiraffe sanctum?
@CaptainGiraffe dungeon defenders?
@CaptainGiraffe orcs must die?
 
@nightcracker not familiar with those
 
@CaptainGiraffe use UDK
neeext.
 
8:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz But I still want to hide those few that hang down visibly.
 
@CaptainGiraffe then if you're seriously considering making such a game I would definitely suggest you check them out
 
Xeo
Hm, I should also go buy some groceries.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Unreal Development Kit
 
Xeo
But fuck, it's cold outside.
 
@CaptainGiraffe better well stolen then badly invented
 
8:35 PM
Anything but open-source C++ engines
 
Ok, OGRE it is.
 
@CaptainGiraffe what? In pretty much every aspect UDK is better.
 
Xeo
And I'd need to get going right now
meh
 
Use Unity or UDK
 
8:36 PM
@CatPlusPlus Fuck UDK
 
so that's how it is to sit on my chair.
 
I was unconscious all day :/ didn't pick up my order from the shoppe
 
exciting i know
 
@BartekBanachewicz Really uncomfortable?
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
8:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz do you chat with a steering wheel?
 
@BartekBanachewicz How the fuck do you type?
 
dunno, with my hands?
 
@nightcracker With on-screen keyboard
 
Around the wheel?
 
@CatPlusPlus ...using the steering wheel
 
8:37 PM
yes, I don't mind it really, it isn't that big.
@nightcracker lol
anyway the wheel is freaking amazing
 
So it is really uncomfortable
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Ynity
 
What do I win
 
@BartekBanachewicz for what
 
8:38 PM
@nightcracker Typing, duh
 
@BartekBanachewicz I guess you can debug with it very fast
 
@nightcracker not typing :P
 
Guys, now I will really say it explicitly: don't ever take advice for buying keyboards from Bartek.
 
break = set breakpoint, throttle = continue
left = scroll lines up
 
Put the keyboard under your desk, (though learnng to touch-type with toes is difficult).
 
8:38 PM
right = scroll down
 
lol seriously I was launching the game
just opened lounge to check it
@Borgleader UDK is rather amazing.
 
@MartinJames He's got pedals for that
Press it once for a
Press it 32 times for z
 
Xeo
Welp, to hell with the coldness, time to get some groceries.
 
8:39 PM
Anyway, off I go for some bread and other thingies.
 
@CatPlusPlus I bet uppercase is a pain.
 
@MartinJames what do you think the other pedal is for?
 
@MartinJames And the ogoneks!
 
Horn is compose key
 
you could pick the letter by turning the wheel you know
and typing it by pressing gas.
 
8:40 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Oh - I was thinking 0-9.
 
also actually I use the buttons to input binary sequences
 
@MartinJames nope, he only has 0 and 1 (the two white buttons on the wheel)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah that
 
8:41 PM
 
@nightcracker no way
 
pfft
league of boring
 
ITT everything DeadMG sucks at is boring
 
ITT you assume I suck at it
 
please tell me how you don't :)
 
8:43 PM
DeadMG is in challenger 25 guis don't worry
 
well, in order to suck at it, I'd have to actually play it.
 
^
We actually won against a guy who ended S3 in challenger
two his other teammates were like gold though so...
 
whereas fortunately I am freed from being quite that thick
 
@DeadMG yeah so fortunate for the world
@nightcracker I've expected he can really turn with a wheel
 
8:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz My MMR is so high I occasionally get ranked with challengers :P
 
who said anything about the world?
 
@BartekBanachewicz but I can't really play anymore since I got this new modem installed by my landowner
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hey, I have an S3!
Oh wait.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The "customers also viewed" is a bit strange.
 
8:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's "Season 3" silly
 
you're back already robot? or still no bread for you?
 
we are now in Preseason
 
@Rapptz Is it a bunch of dildos?
 
@BartekBanachewicz look at my glorious ping!
 
oh god it's even worse.
Putrescent Clitoral Fermentation
 
8:46 PM
@nightcracker suckage
@DeadMG that was nice
 
:D :D :D
 
Ell
@DeadMG just clicked on it. What in god's name is it
 
@Rapptz It's other stuff the guy posted on the blog.
 
Although the horse dick and the hole warmer are nice too
 
Hmm, my room is a mess now. imgur.com/i5bYMX2
 
8:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh
 
what the fuck is this deathmetal
 
@Ell With a name like that I'd rather not find out.
 
@DeadMG I think it's a music album.
 
It's on the blog too.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, it's like a monitor 6-pack o_O? I though you bought 6 identical monitors simply.
 
8:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what region do you play?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Logistics of that would be too messy for my taste.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes are those 24"s?
 
@nightcracker EUNE
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, we could play sometime but either you or I'd have to make a smurf
 
8:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you get the remote too?
 
It's part of the set.
 
apparently this set looks like this
@R.MartinhoFernandes nice
 
meh
I think I can only live with a 1x3 eyefinity setup
 
Still wondering about FPSes, though.
 
any bars through the middle just sucks
 
8:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Is that Hawken?
 
@EtiennedeMartel dunno
I haven't played Hawken since beta TBH
dunno why
might try again after 3rd screen
 
struct Slab {
    uint8_t* data;
    uint32_t length;
    uint32_t metadata; // let's make the padded bytes useful
};
 
@nightcracker yeah urgh now I really want 3rd again
 
Crosshairs end up in awkward places.
 
I can't buy it now :/
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh shit the bezel is in the middle
suckage.
 
8:54 PM
If I calibrate it so the pic is behind the bezels, I can't see them. If I don't, well, it sucks because there's the bezel gap.
 
One funny thing about my setuf, if I buy the third one, is that I can pivot all 3
apparently 3x10:16 is 30:16 which is more widescreen than 16:9
 
Oh, food, dammit.
 
meh, after new year bonus maybe
 
lol boost's folder naming scheme is quite... descriptive
"C:\programming\c++\boost_1_55_0\build\boost\bin.v2\libs\thread\build\msvc-12.0\‌​release\link-static\runtime-link-static\threading-multi\libboost_thread-vc120-mt-‌​s-1_55.lib"
 
:D
okey, time to play some racing
There's this great F2P game you can try if you are into that stuff
 
8:56 PM
trackmania?
lol
 
Simraceway :P
 
trackmania comes with StarForce
avoid like hell
 
@nightcracker s/descriptive/anal/
 
Anus' plural form should definitely be "ani".
 
my favorite plural form is "cyclopes"
 
9:04 PM
@ScarletAmaranth cyclopsi
 
@EtiennedeMartel Anii
 
does visual studio have like a release-neutral section for stuff like includes?
 
right now you'll have to set up include directories for both release and debug
which is kind of a bitch
 
You can edit all configurations at once
 
9:14 PM
thx
found it
 
Or just edit the MSBuild files directly
 
I should probably start using a cmake workflow
makes porting the build process to other platforms a lot less painful
 
Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics free at GOG
 
way to go
 
If you don't have them for whatever reason
 
9:17 PM
I've been using VS2013 officially for 5 minutes now
and I've already encountered a crucial bug
 
Crucial? So you can't live without it?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Food?
 
game-breaking
critical
whatever
 
Xeo
I'm back from my hunt, what about you?
 
9:18 PM
 
oh ye, that one
 
Robot = Xeo
 
Xeo
@nightcracker Wat
 
@Xeo Ran into my flatmates in the corridor, and had to show them the screens.
 
@Xeo clean install, less than 5 minutes used so far
 
9:19 PM
Leaving soon.
 
@Xeo typical microsoft quality at work
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, at least you have time till midnight
@nightcracker Sure.
 
@nightcracker i've encountered it, just close the window and reopen, done
 
@Xeo Yeah.
Life is awesome.
I don't think I've ever been this happy.
 
@ScarletAmaranth the second I change "tabs" (the thing on the left) the bug returns though
 
9:21 PM
@nightcracker yup, keep reopening
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have security on your building?
 
@ScarletAmaranth so everytime I want to change something I have to re-open the window?
that's fucking retarded
 
@MartinJames ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So you got them?
 
@MartinJames If it helps, I live on the 9th floor.
 
9:22 PM
@nightcracker not every time, just 50% of the times, happens with all configurations only, at least to me
 
How's it workin
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Six monitors would sell for a lot on the pubs...
 
@nightcracker If you have another project in your solution, you can also click on that other project and then click back on the original one
 
@CatPlusPlus Scroll up for pics. I really need to go for those groceries now.
 
is this bug so common and bad everyone knows "solutions" and workarounds?
 
9:22 PM
I'd come and steal them myself if Xmas travel was not so expensive:)
 
@MartinJames Did I mention it's on the 9th floor?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thieves know how to use lifts.
 
@MartinJames he's specifying as to where you should come rob him ^^
 
Anyway, I gotta go steal some beer. BFN!
 
9:29 PM
the bug is "fixed" if I switch to all config, switch section, switch to debug and then back to all config
 
Ell
Hmm idk if I should access my global direction vectors from inside functions or take them as arguments...
 
I'm looking at some code and am wondering: Why would you have a static vector<..> in a function and then everytime the function is run the vector is cleared by assigning a new vector to it?
 
@mantler Pastebin the code and show us, but from your description that's just a stupid thing to do
 
Ell
@mantler are you sure that is what's happening? show code
or show the line
assignment only happens once in static something a = b
 
@Eli Ah, I see..
 
Ell
9:39 PM
@mantler (I think)
let me check
 
@Eli Hold on... is that really right? Anyways here is some mock code showing... pastebin.com/dmBAgABM
It did not feel right to me. The assignment part.
 
Static locals are shared among all calls and initialized only once (more or less)
oh just saw the code.
Yeah that's dumb.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That seems like a bad idea from a thread safety perspective.
 
Forgot to say that it is single threaded application.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah same
 
9:42 PM
Statics are thread-safe
Well, init at least
 
Thank you.
 
@CatPlusPlus I mean, call a method with a static member from two different threads. You'll have troubles.
 
Not if you don't write to them after initialization.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, okay I understand the clarifications.
 
Ell
Hmm I can't decide on what to do :O I want to write up/down/left etc. functions which turn the local up/down/left/etc vectors based on a quaternion representing rotation. Do I make a free function? use adl? inherit glm::quat and add functions? I'm pretty sure free function is the right thing
 
user1804599
9:52 PM
 
user1804599
I ate this today. It was pretty tasty but it looks funky.
 
user3010322
@Xeo @CatPlusPlus Do you guys still play Starbound? :O
 
Ell
@rightfold it looks like an edible double ended dildo
 
@ThePhD What the hell is "optomize"?
 
Ell
What is it?
 
Xeo
9:53 PM
@ThePhD My PC doesn't like it, crashing all the time. :(
 
user1804599
It is a vlampijp.
 
user3010322
@kbok Optomize, what else?
 
user3010322
@Xeo Sadface is sad. :c
 
Ell
@rightfold tell me if I should have a HasOrientation class or not.
 
user1804599
As a Java-like interface? No.
 
9:53 PM
@ThePhD ? ??? ??
 
user1804599
It should be a type trait.
 
user3010322
@kbok Er,. oh. Optimize, I guess?
 
Ell
@rightfold Not as an interface, as a... mixin?
 
user3010322
Optomization
 
user3010322
That stuff
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
@Ell example?
 
What is the question? I see two invalid XML snippets, and two relatively unrelated grammars that both obviously should not parse the invalid XML. I've written a lot of parsers in Spirit. Perhaps they were similar. But you forgot to mention "what happened" (so we can't say "why it happened") and you also forgot to say what you are trying to achieve. So who knows there are similar parsers... — sehe 4 secs ago
Two upvotes.
Never happens in [tag:boost-spirit]. Now, we get an exceptionally badly worded question, and it gets two upvotes. Go figure
 
user1804599
Is it reasonable to implement a C#-like async/await system monadically?
 
If done reasonably
 
Ell
@rightfold it contains a protected member glm::quat orientation and some move_forward, move_left etc. This way I don't have to keep rewriting code for any class that moves
gah bad design.
 
Ell
9:55 PM
My goals aren't clear enough!
 
user1804599
Most ECMAScript libraries that do I/O do it asynchronously but I want to avoid boomerang code.
 
what is boomerang code?
CPS?
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, that looks nice. Thanks.
 
TIL about std::forward_list
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes or for strangling mildly annoying pets (and relatives)
 
9:58 PM
@sehe He won the parse structure as well. What a lucky guy.
 

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