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user3010322
6:00 PM
I also had to spend even more time running around to department heads to get clearance for classes I already fucking qualified for.
 
user3010322
When I had enough of their bullshit, I applied for a transfer. Even with a 3.8 GPA taking the hardest classes on a 20+ credit hour schedule for the first semester, the counselor said he "could not vouch for me academically."
 
user3010322
They almost buried me at that goddamn school.
 
user3010322
Fuck overhead.
 
My SAT scores are excellent for my country, yet terrible for the United States, so I'm stuck here~
 
user3010322
They sabotaged all my transfer applications.
 
user3010322
6:02 PM
The only way I could transfer out was by not even notifying my next school of my previous school's counselors and applying in a very akward, direct-to-admissions kind of way.
 
Let it all out bro.
 
user3010322
I would rather hang myself then ever go back to academia, but I have degrees to get, so I am indeed going back. =/
 
I don't care about my degrees, but my parents do.
So I'm going for it~
 
employers care about degrees
 
I don't care about employers
 
Ell
6:05 PM
You should
 
I don't plan on working for anyone.
 
You must also not care about eating
 
Ell
If you don't have a job and aren't studying you aren't contributing to society :3 </sweeping statement>
 
I don't want to contribute to society :3
 
Ell
Then shame on you :P
 
6:05 PM
I would encourage you to try starting your own business, it is a worthy endeavor, but that doesn't mean you don't need a backup plan
 
That's exactly what I'm doing.
Yes, having a backup plan is a good argument for me to get my degrees~
 
at my school they tried to argue with me that a class called "precalculus" is not equivalent to my school's class called "precalculus". It was taken at a better school, too.
 
wow... flagfest
 
Say what.
God I wish I had 10k :V
 
Someone was spamming the PHP room.
22 flags.
28 now
 
6:16 PM
@MohammadAliBaydoun Me too, but answering the same questions over and over again just burned me out =/ I did get 1 passive upvote today though so I got that going for me which is nice
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun I think this is one of those grass is always greener stiuations
 
(spot the meme)
 
@Mysticial Sounds like the type of guy we love to get here :P
 
@Xeo now I just feel bad about myself :P for not knowing all those extensions he mentions like nothing
 
Xeo
6:18 PM
> +990
...
 
I want a glFlushIReallyMeanItDontYouDareOptimizeThisAway() call.
lol
 
not gonna happen ^
that's just not how drivers work.
but he knows that so...
on NVidia if you don't draw GPU might not even know you called any GL code
 
user1804599
@Mysticial lol
 
user1804599
That’s not acceptable in communist Stack Exchange!
 
I was under the impression glFlush() was mostly used in a client/server setup (where theyre not on the same machine) or maybe I'm confusing it with another call
 
6:22 PM
umm, your GPU is your server
I guess you misunderstood what client/server means in OGL :)
sum = mconcat monoidSum
product = mconcat monoidProduct
@Xeo ^ :3
 
I'm too lazy to look at my notes on the subject (pretty sure I took some when i was reading the red book)
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz sum = mconcat . map Sum vOv
Although that introduces an intermediate list
Which can potentially be fused away
 
I could fuse away your mother
 
relevant
 
it will most certainly be removed, it's Haskell, come on.
</fanboy> His post is interesting, though.
 
6:27 PM
also good morning
 
Xeo
Did you fuck up your sleep cycle again?
 
oh yeah.
 
@Borgleader If that's the answer, I'm pretty sure I'm happier not knowing the question.
 
ONLY
Because profiling told me to!
 
> we as Haskell programmers have been conditioned to believe that it is correct and normal to have operators change behavior silently when passed different arguments, which completely subverts type-safety.
 
user1804599
6:29 PM
Is Delphi a good programming language?
 
I don't agree with that
 
This is what I have my gravatar for, then - to unsee the flags:
 
:D
@rightfold how is Styx going?
 
user1804599
It is going good.
 
when can I start writing in it
 
user1804599
6:31 PM
Never!
 
if you actually implement all those features I will write a native backend for it in Terra
 
easy: stop preaching and
practice more :)
Nothing to be ashamed of anymore
 
@sehe oh, I practice a lot, but not what I preach ^^
 
Practice Haskell.
 
> A lot of free launch money
What's that?
 
6:32 PM
maybe it's lunch money
 
@Mysticial Can't see what's the problem with an 'Urgent' tag. Trying to submit such a question pops up a credit card form. Minimum $50 just to post the question with that tag. Accepted answers, (or if not accepted after a week, highest voted), gets the $50. Failing that just allow the tag so that the question will be ignored totally.
 
@rightfold Define "good" and maybe somebody can hope to answer.
 
user1804599
Although I got stuck with generic specialisations after I decided to get rid of methods.
 
@MartinJames Lovely.
 
its caled a tipo
 
6:33 PM
^ this. Why not, really. Everyone benefits. We get cash for answering. People get answers fast. SO gets margin.
 
@MartinJames lol
 
@ScarletAmaranth You mean, ta yop? I knwo whta that maens
 
user1804599
@MartinJames Eh, bounties.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz nope
nopenopenopenopenope
 
user1804599
Stack Exchange must not get hyphenated.
 
6:34 PM
Speaking of which. We've been getting a bit of fire for the insta-binning of questions. How about instead of insta-binning, we name a price?
 
Xeo
Who cares about fire.
 
@rightfold No - 'Urgent' should mean cash.
 
@rightfold kick out variadics
 
@BartekBanachewicz Didn't Amazon have that? Mechanical Turkâ„¢
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz huh?
 
6:34 PM
:D
 
user1804599
Styx has no variadics.
 
@Mysticial 300$/hr, payable through Paypal Google wallet :)
 
user1804599
Well, for functions it does but not for generics.
 
Urgent on SO? Rofl, with the amount of repwhores around, that shouldn't be needed anyway ^^.
 
6:35 PM
@Borgleader I was thinking higher than that. But you're on the right track.
:)
 
Lol actually we could set up Lounge paypal and instead of dumping ask all the help vampires for donations
 
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A: How do you access private variables using public functions?

Coder101101010Code with getters/setters are considered 'better' than direct private member access because those functions can then control all of the input/output from those variables and make sure it is of the type, range, or whatever that the class expects. It's a way for the class creator to error-check the...

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Then use the money to build "Ship beer worldwide" startup
 
user1804599
The problem is that the public interfaces of generic structs should be supersets of the public interfaces of the structs being specialised.
 
6:36 PM
@MartinJames Well, "Urgent" should automatically withdraw $5 from the OP's bank account, regardless of whether there is an answer.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You forgot to ping @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
Also, if OP is out of money he can elect to go into voluntary question ban, or proceed but pay by suffering electric shocks to the private parts
 
@Xeo I figured you'd do it for me eventually
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit /no-go
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's why C++ needs C#-style properties. At least just enough to do access restrictions.
I keep wanting to do int blah {get; private set;}.
Then forgetting that I'm in C++ instead of C#.
 
6:37 PM
You'd also have to answer how many times you'll be generating... if you only generate one id, the probability of a dupe is zero :) — John Gibb 1 min ago
Insightful :)
 
If I had a particularly annoying and persistent bug/whatever that I had already wasted a day on, I would happily pay $50 for a solution.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz see GitHub for progress (or lack thereof).
 
@Xeo have you read the comment about Scala typeclasses?
 
Spoke too soon~
You don't work with pointers very much do you? No type checking when there's no type to check. Still not sure how my answer was different than the 'upvoted' one above, which says mostly the same thing. — Coder101101010 25 secs ago
 
TIL pointers dont have types
 
6:45 PM
hm
 
Xeo
cue void*
 
maybe I should implement proper parametric polymorphism in Wide.
 
Ell
parametric polymorphism?
 
yeah
 
Xeo
@Ell Think templates.
 
6:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, you are what you eat.
 
@Xeo Class templates.
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel Cheese is a kind of meat, a tasty yellow beef
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Why just that?
 
well I already have function templates, essentially.
 
Xeo
Sure, but I just meant that as an answer to Ell on what "parametric polymorphism" is
 
6:50 PM
ah right.
the core issue I've run into is that if you return types from parametric functions to essentially gain parametric types
it's difficult to refer to those parametric types as a group externally.
 
Xeo
Templates are really just those functions
with invocation special syntax in C++
 
well, not exactly.
a class template has the whole "deducible" thing going on.
which I don't.
 
@ThePhD (CC @Xeo?) your member function pointer stuff kinda works.
 
Xeo
huh?
@DeadMG right
 
so
if I want to say that a String(encoding) is a String(encoding) for any other encoding
it's not that simple because how would you refer to String(encoding)?
the result is just some type.
 
6:54 PM
@Xeo @ThePhD showed me some magic to detect member function pointers. He hearted you in it, so I guess it kinda came from you originally. See here for why it kinda works: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/2fb53bf24c182780
 
user3010322
@rubenvb It was just me, Xeo hates the concept of function_traits <3
 
Xeo
OH GAWD
 
user3010322
Hehehehe.
 
haha lol
 
Xeo
Where is my trout, I need to slap a certain derpstorm.
 
user3010322
6:54 PM
OH LOOK AT THE TIME
 
user3010322
I SHOULD BE GOING NOW
 
user1804599
 
Anyways, it fails hard on a member object pointer. It would seem I need to special case everything with your implementation, because adding a default is_member_function bool as false will break everything.
 
@rubenvb You can't be generic as to whether something is a member object or member function.
you'll have to duplicate everything.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG T C::* says hi
 
6:56 PM
@DeadMG ..?
 
@Xeo With T as a function type, like void()?
 
Xeo
yes
 
hm
I guess I never tried that.
it's just not in keeping with the Standard's usual approach to permit such conveniences.
 
lol the standard's not that evil
 
Ell
If I want to find an objects forward vector, I can just take global up and transform it by the objects orientation matrix/quaternion right?
 
6:58 PM
Yeah, that's the whole problem. T can be a function, and is_function doesn't catch that as far as I can see.
 
@Rapptz yes, yes it is.
@Ell What?
 
Xeo
@rubenvb Why do you even want to inspect that?
 
typically, you store the object's forward vector and use that to compute the matrix/quaternion.
 
@Xeo because then I have a is_member_function_pointer. There must be a reason to have that.
It's in the standard.
 
Xeo
Oh, right
 
6:59 PM
But now you're going to tell me that's senseless.
 
Xeo
You're doing your stdlib thing
 
@rubenvb Because completeness, basically.
 
yeah.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG INVOKE
 
also that.
 

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