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3:00 PM
BTW - is there a standard way to get back memory that is aligned at 64K boundaries?
 
@GlennTeitelbaum yes, I do/did that, and usually I get what people talking about. But still, these are always only parts of the language... I'm not sure how to judge if the part in discussion is industry relevant or more or less a geek part...
 
@GlennTeitelbaum The only standard way is to allocate 64kb more memory than you need, and then find the first 64kb boundary yourself and just ignore the memory before it
 
Otherwise you have to rely on OS-specific stuff
 
@jalf First part followed by en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/memory/align (Warning: grokking align's interface may cause severe brain damage) /cc @Glenn
 
3:02 PM
@GlennTeitelbaum gimme a sec
 
@m you can test your general knowledge by the geek part - you can test your skill by writing code
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah yeah, true enough
 
@MikeM We use most of the language here at work.
 
@DeadMG it was more an aside than a question :)
 
@GlennTeitelbaum wasn't aimed at you
 
3:03 PM
in that case .....
 
@DeadMG You mean, no newbies...
@R.MartinhoFernandes But are you average programmers / C++-programmers
 
@MikeM People do come here for reasons other than to ask questions, you know. If I meant "No newbies", I'd say that.
 
@GlennTeitelbaum not generalized yet, it's a quick hack-together, and currently only works for 8 bytes (minimum is 8 bytes though)
 
@MikeM no, he means no questions, except for those we find interesting enough to discuss and answer
 
3:05 PM
your assumption that people only come here to ask questions is a large part of the problem I'm trying to solve.
 
This chat room is not for questions. Sometimes questions do get tolerated and even answered, but that is the exception, not the rule
 
pretty much that.
 
@GlennTeitelbaum Sure, that's what I do... Just curious, what people reconize as a "good" C++ programmer... Having seen Java and Delphi a lot, C++ is so much bigger, yet it's possible to have good systems in Java, Delphi, ...
 
@MikeM If you write good C++ code, you're a good C++ programmer
 
@MikeM There aren't any good systems in Java, only systems that whatever unlucky schmuck had to pay for it threw far too much money at.
 
3:06 PM
lol
 
@DeadMG I've followed several discussions here, many include questions, but not form newbies...
 
and personally, I judge that by whether I find your C++ code to be good. That's subjective. There is no global standardized "proficiency at C++" test you can take
 
@jalf How to know in before hand?
 
good programmers use 0 and native pointers - its the slackards that need nullptr and shared_ptr
 
@jalf How to judge that?
 
3:07 PM
@MikeM well, you could, for example, look directly below the room name, where it says
 
I agree about the last bit.
Slackards use shared_ptr all over.
 
in general, your question gets answered if 1. it's either trivial (but not boringly trivial that could be answered by a docs lookup) or interesting 2. you're a regular
 
@MikeM How do you know you're a good driver?
 
@MikeM Most of the questions that are tolerated are at a very high level (most newbies come here to ask i++ + ++i kind of questions), and secondly, I answer the robot's hard questions because I know that he's gonna be back tomorrow to answer mine, whereas for you neither of those things is true.
 
@jalf No I mean, if the question interests the people here...
 
3:08 PM
@nightcracker Mostly (1). If a regular asks a boring questions, I think the odds are good that that gets ignored too :p
might just be ignored in a marginally more polite way
@MikeM Assume that it won't interest the people here. Because once again, this room is not for questions
 
@DeadMG You can see in the future?
 
I mean, don't ask a question about a function if cppreference.com TAB function_name answers your question
 
my question on 64k allocations was based on some pool implementations that can use that, so it was relevant to the topic of pools
 
(if your browser supports tab searching a domain - google chrome does)
 
3:09 PM
I'm a regular and would like to ask boring questions, but I'm too idle to type them.
 
That is where you go to ask questions
This chat room is where you go to not ask questions
 
@MikeM No, and that's exactly why I don't trust new people to come back or ask more interesting questions later.
 
@MikeM What he meant was that we know each other have a friendly relationship.
 
You want him to ask his opinionated question on SO? :/
 
@GlennTeitelbaum why would you want 64k alignment btw?
 
3:09 PM
@Rapptz Yes. I don't care what happens to it there
 
your question is highly generic and quite uninteresting, and has no useful answer or comment to be made, and I have little reason to commit to answering it since I have no reason to think I'll get anything back.
 
@DeadMG So, how can this group evolve?
 
Why'd you berate the guy with anyway? He wasn't being annoying about it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, but no new people allowed?
 
@MikeM Usually via. food and sex.
 
3:10 PM
@MikeM it doesn't have to.
 
well, firstly, you assume that I have an interest in evolution.
I'm pretty happy with the current crop of regulars, really.
 
@MikeM People are welcome. Questions are not. You can hang out here if you like
 
It has evolved.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Like a pokemon!
 
But I think his question was fine.
 
3:10 PM
and secondly, I don't have any problem with new people.
it's just the ones who come here to bug us for help over and over again that I object to.
 
if you can assert 64k or 4k or any block alignment - then you can use the pointer to find header info stored at the beginning of the block just by masking - so less overhead in each alloacted unit, you could even allocate one byte at a time
 
Xeo
Hmpf, stupid ambiguous partial specialization
 
@jalf Well, that's a statement... Although pretty ignorant...
 
@Xeo Ha, yeah, had that too. Solved without extra disambiguating specialisation, luckily.
 
Xeo
Yeah, I stole from your code for that
 
3:11 PM
@DeadMG I didn't do that...
 
@GlennTeitelbaum why'd you need to store block info?
 
Xeo
I came up with the same idea, basically unrolling and fusing all the seperate steps in one function
 
To answer your question though, I have no clue. Experience, is what it really boils down to. Someone who's good at C++ will have a pretty good idea of how skilled someone else is at the language. Why do you need to know if you are good at C++ anyway?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks
 
@MikeM Well, as far as I can determine, you arrived and then you asked for help, which is pretty much that.
 
3:12 PM
@DeadMG He didn't really ask for help.
 
@MikeM No, it is the simple truth. It's just a chat room. There are thousands and thousands of them on the internet. This particular room doesn't have to do anything. It can evolve, it can stay the same, it can die out, it can be forcibly closed by the moderators. It doesn't have to do anything
 
@jalf Well, how do you know, if you're good at something, just that your program doesn't crash means not much... Looking across the horizon or so...
 
@MikeM How do you know you're good at cooking or driving? How do you know you're good at Japanese?
 
@DeadMG Well, not for help... Wanted to get some opinions...
 
At some point, you just have to gauge "am I able to use X efficiently? Do I often encounter situations where I do not fully understand X?"
 
3:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it's not impossible that I overstepped on this one. It's just that since the endless tide of questiondumpers hasn't shown any inclination of even slowing down, I'm starting to get more and more snappy at them.
 
If you are able to answer typical C++ questions on SO, then you're probably in pretty good shape
But again, why do you need to know?
 
@jalf Well, that's the point... How to reason about that. For a language you might have native speakers, for cooking its harder, for programming it's still harder at least in my opinion
 
@MikeM You have a problem- you don't know if you're good at C++. You came to us to help you, to tell you how to solve this problem.
 
@jalf I don't need to know. I'm just curious. Just to have a measure...
 
6 mins ago, by Rapptz
Why'd you berate the guy with anyway? He wasn't being annoying about it.
question wasn't even that bad
 
user1804599
3:16 PM
Hi Mike. :3
 
He said "Hi" and gave signs of having lurked about for a while :|
 
He has been here before.
 
Also, hmm, cake.
 
@MikeM I already told you the best answer I have. There isn't some kind of oracle you can ask to get the holy true answer. Honestly, I just look at the questions and answers people post on SO and ask myself "can I keep up with this? Do I understand the question? Does my answer agree with the other answers posted?"
 
@DeadMG Well, I asked how you know, if you're good at it... I'm pretty happy with what I can accomplish, although that doesn't involve too deep template magic... But again, I've worked on pretty big systems with languages which don't allow that at all...
@rightfold Hi
 
3:18 PM
Also can we stop the bickering about whether or not this question is ok? That kind of dull pointless background noise is exactly what we're trying to avoid with the no-questions policy, after all
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't need cake now. It turns out that Subway do Burritos after all:)
 
@jalf Yes you answered my question very thoroughly :-) Thank you
 
Xeo
 
@jalf When you make a non-sensible requirement that the question has to be interesting in order to garner attention then you will get "background noise" stating that the question wasn't bad. Not that I'm advocating the question is interesting, I just feel all this discussion is pretty useless.
 
In the end, I just wanted to have a small discussion, about how you see yourselfes as programmers... I don't know how I could have started that
 
3:19 PM
@Xeo Return type is not right.
It decays references from things like tie.
 
@MikeM Personally, I feel that I should at least to be familiar with every part of the language. There are certainly corners of it that I can't remember off-hand (template template parameters, for example), but if someone mentions them, I at least know what they are
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, yeah, I was lazy about the forwarding
 
@Rapptz That's not a requirement, it's a statement of fact.
 
@Xeo forward_as_tuple is wrong too.
You need to compute it.
(Though, it's easy with the same trick and tuple_element instead of get)
 
Xeo
Yeah, I need to compute the return type as std::tuple<TupleElem<Y, TupleElem<X, Ts>>...>
But that would require proper forwarding in the first place from the interface function :P
 
3:21 PM
@jalf Well I think C++ is special in that case, since with the metaprogramming you have lots of possibilities to enhance the language, in a very natural way. So would that still be knowledge about the language or would it be framework knowledge... C++ is very meta in that sense
 
@MikeM It is still part of the language, so yes. :)
 
Hmm, I love smell of templates in the morning.
 
Again, I don't expect everyone to be able to do crazy metaprogramming tricks, but you should probably be familiar with the basics
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also needs remove_reference and blah
 
Yes, but none of that adds extra lines.
 
3:22 PM
@jalf But then it seems to be impossible to know every corner... People can just build new corners with the metatools
 
Xeo
true enough
 
(And I don't see the deal with the forwarding... static_cast<T&&>(t))?
 
@MikeM Not really. That'd be like saying you have to know every function people might write
I don't have to know what your function foo does, I just have to be able to understand it when I see the code
Likewise, if I know how metaprogramming works, I don't need to know about your specific metafunction, just how to read/understand it
 
Some of my coworkers claim I look emo.
 
@jalf Well, but take EDSLs with boost proto for example. You can make up a new part in C++ which is right there but follows different rules, and you can program in that EDSL and it's still C++
 
3:25 PM
@MikeM But it still obeys the rules of C++. So you just need to know what those rules are
 
@jalf Yes but that gets you only to syntactically correct C++, the semantics are in the EDSL and may not be C++ like at all
 
Boost.Proto is a good example, actually. I don't know off-hand how the implement all the crazy things that library can do. But I know which tools they've used. I know how metaprogramming works, and if I went through the code carefully, I would eventually be able to understand it, because it uses nothing except what is in C++
@MikeM I don't see how that matters. It is just C++ code written by the library authors. It is clever in a lot of ways, but it's still just C++. If I know how C++ works, then I can understand how Proto works
 
What counts as C++-like semantics?
 
@jalf Sure, but then you understand Proto and not the EDSL. The EDSL is valid C++, too. Ok, then you can work out the EDSL... So, given that knowledge you say, I know basic C++ rules, so I can work out everything else. That's fine with me.
But I can work out a lot, also in other languages, just from knowing basic programming principles...
 
@MikeM So what? If I write foo(x), do you know the semantics?
 
3:30 PM
So, do I know Python, just because I can work it out?
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I don't. Are we saying we know a language, when we feel mentally capable of getting it's logics, or understand what other people wrote? So reducing it to logic?
 
Then I don't see what point you are trying to make about people being able to write code that needs knowledge that isn't present at that point to understand.
All code is like that.
 
Being a mathematician, the logic I find in programming might be challenging some times, but mostly because the systems are huge. I can grasp the logic in there, although it may take quite some time... When one says I know C++ or any other language, one doesn't think, I'm able to learn all that logics, but I know the logics. And that requires that you judge what is relevant for knowing and what is not so relevant...
 
Xeo
It seems quite limited to me. I don't understand why a compiler would need to prevent such a thing. It works well with bind, although the syntax is horrible with the ostream left shift operator. — Jean-Simon Brochu 41 mins ago
Any clue what he's talking about?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At least all code should be like that. Code that depends only upon knowledge already present/obvious at that point is generally known as boiler-plate (or as Java).
 
@Xeo Nope. Sounds like odd rambling
 
Apparently, our teacher thinks that quicksort is a fancier version of mergesort
 
I feel like using git submodules again :s
but that went horribly last time so I won't even bother
 
Anyway, thanks for your opinions.
 
@GamesBrainiac it is fancy.
 
@Jefffrey It sorted the array in-place its not supposed to do any merges.
Stupid teacher.
They give PhDs to anyone these days.
 
3:40 PM
What's up with this ?
 
@Jefffrey Goat Sacrifices.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you slaughter virtual goats, or real ones?
 
posted on November 26, 2013

Reality is a pretty chaotic environment and requires a bit of thinking to get those messy real world signals into our nice neat digital world.

 
stackoverflow.com/questions/19952551/… guise help, this idiot won't stop :|
can he be killed or sth?
 
@BartoszKP Oh gosh, that thing still on after all this time?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hoped not, but he just woke up apparently ;0
 
3:44 PM
@BartoszKP sacrifice a virtual goat like @R.MartinhoFernandes does.
 
Just installed an adblocker for the first time ever. Configured it to block only youtube and google
 
@GamesBrainiac sounds at least more constructive than discussing with this guy
 
so you've blocked the Internet?
 
@TonyTheLion ahahahaha
 
@BartoszKP FWIW, he's a bit right. I don't want to give him any shred of validation though.
 
3:45 PM
@TonyTheLion yeah : D why not just plug the cable out
 
JBL
> appropirately
He's doing piracy !
 
@BartoszKP heh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes perhaps you're right, I would consider if he'd finished with ad hominem
 
What he wants is some sort of distinction between cardinal and ordinal.
I don't think it's worth it, though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well said
 
3:47 PM
Like "one" vs "first" (the latter we curiously often represent with 0!).
 
@TonyTheLion 'only'
 
@Xeo I'm baffled. Your answer could stand a tiny correction though: a lambda can sometimes capture variables outside the scope in which it's defined. "The reaching scope of a local lambda expression is the set of enclosing scopes up to and including the innermost enclosing function and its parameters." (§5.1.2/9)
 
Man.
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Right, I was a bit liberal with the "enclosing scope" there.
I meant function-scope of course.
 
git subtree is better but still seems annoying
 
3:49 PM
@Xeo Yeah, I figured. I didn't think this was a correction to your understanding of lambdas, only of how the answer was worded.
 
Oh gosh, I found the CPS nest in our code.
Asio is fugly.
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Yeah. Thing is, if I say "function scope", I also have to mention "reaching scope" through other lambdas - because if the outer lambdas don't capture something, the inner one also can't.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. :(
 
I need to send two commands in sequence to our headset, but I cannot send the second before I get an ack for the first.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes as I think about it - you usually do such thing, but on a different abstraction level - you introduce something like "BankAccount" and "BankTransfer" to differentiate numbers in this way. So yes, it's just not worth an abstract notion, as it's usually dealt with anyway
 
So... 2-level CPS :(
 
3:51 PM
async/await :v
@BartoszKP Ahahahahaha
Bartek, you send me into math department because time is not different from any other interval scale, as poke explains. You cannot point me into the math that tells you to program this way, this means that this has nothing to do with math. Python programmers should point to the concrete math foundations in the first place. I cannot ask matematicians why python programmers do it this way. I python designers cannot do that, this means there is no reason to use the timediff type at all. You tell exactly this in outrageous way. — Val Nov 17 at 14:27
What a lunatic
 
@Xeo Yeah--it gets complex (and irrelevant) in a hurry. Maybe just a footnote something like: "I'm simplifying--Google for reaching scope or see §5.1.2 for all the gory details."
 
he likes psychology and telepathy apparently ;0
 
Just ignore it
 
yeah
 
Please enjoy your downvote.
 
3:59 PM
You were slow that time :D
 
why?
 
Wanted help in compiling Qt
 
And here we go again
The reason is "because", deal with, end of story
 
anybody know how?
 
@VivianLobo Hello, what is your favourite color?
 
4:01 PM
I am curious, though.
If it is a common question...
 
Tunnel vision like fuck
 
Hi Cat
 
:P favourite colour
 
@VivianLobo I've heard of people using it, so I think it's safe to say that yes, somebody must know how to compile it.
 
4:01 PM
@VivianLobo yeah
 
Also special snowflake syndrome. "Surely this one guy asking question being mocked mercilessly doesn't mean I will!"
 
Don't have any though
 
First result for "Qt compiling" on Google.
 
@DeadMG want to hear my next plan for the AI?
 
unfortunately I am trying an older version for a 64bit version
and stuck with a few commands
 
4:02 PM
It's nice to teach people basic skills like googling. Wait, it damn sure isn't.
 
Great, we don't care
Go ask Qt tech support
 
I guess
Thanks though
 
@VivianLobo that's sad. How about trying to look to your right, and click the link given in the top starred post?
 
does anyone know a memory-efficient way of building a memory pool for, say, 2-byte elements?
 
And server the link too
 
4:03 PM
@Pawnguy7 Go for it. I'm not really listening but I'll check it out later.
 
@CatPlusPlus :DD
 
or 4-byte elements on a 64-bit system
 
@nightcracker An array
duh
 
@CatPlusPlus how would you re-use free'd elements?
 
You probably still want to pad to the alignment
 
4:04 PM
Pad what?
 
Elements? I dunno
@nightcracker Keep a bitmap
 
@DeadMG Given that it involves A*, it might take a bit. Anyway, I figured, most of the effects can be predicted beforehand, so I was trying to make a better first approach.
 
I assume 2-byte elements don't have an alignment greater than 2.
Probably not true for some platforms, but fuck them.
 
Dunno
 
@CatPlusPlus where would you store this bitmap?
 
4:05 PM
Alignment is magic
 
@nightcracker Modern C++ Design, chapter 4.
 
@nightcracker A rocket
 
@CatPlusPlus In orbit around Kerbin!
Damn, now I want to play.
 
You should put your other projects on TC :v
 
@JerryCoffin Don't have that book ;(
@JerryCoffin Is it in Loki?
 
4:06 PM
@CatPlusPlus Ah, that too.
 
@nightcracker Yes, should be.
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Done
 
@CatPlusPlus I'll do that during the next full rebuild. (It doesn't take that long to build, but I'll be interrupted anyway)
 
@nightcracker Not sure I'd use the code as-is though. Worth reading the chapter, IMO.
 
4:08 PM
someone should make a qwerty hamming distance function
pretty sure google has (and uses) one
 
oh god a CVS link
burn it burn it
sound the alarm
 
@BartoszKP there we go
 
@CatPlusPlus oatmeal has done a comic about you :D
3
 
@nightcracker So something like Levenshtein distance, but with weighting based on QWERTY key placement?
 
4:12 PM
@nightcracker it could be modified to Levenshtein distance also
 
'evenin
 
hi
 
pretty sure it's evenin'
 
Xeo
NO UNMATCHED BRACKETS
 
: DDD
 
4:13 PM
bin luchian's message too then
 
Xeo
@LuchianGrigore AOEGHIAgh
 
@Xeo :)
@Xeo SOAD?
 
Xeo
I SAID
 
@Xeo Why not? :(
SECRET SMILEY UNMATCHED BRACKET
 
Xeo
I won't even try to :P
 
4:14 PM
fuck it's not as good as it supposed to be
 
:13191765 probably unmatched, with a high degree of certainty
 
what about other kinds of bracket? (for example brackets
that continue on the next line?)
 
: DDD
 
Xeo
I should also move @BartoszKP - NO UNMATCHED BARTEKS
8
 
or brackets that continue on the line posted next week ;0
 
4:15 PM
soap
 
@Xeo :DDDDDD I match myself
 
but you are no match for me!
 
: D
 
that's always what the dating sites say too
hurr
 
@LuchianGrigore Hey Luchian. Long time no chat.
 
4:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus nah, rest
 
JBL
Rest assured, it's soap.
 
I thought you'd empathise with it
 
@CatPlusPlus You already choose to participate, you can't go back now.
 
Xeo
4:22 PM
Whee, extra credits!
 
Got an email from IGDA this morning telling me that if I want to vote for the D.I.C.E. Awards I need to have been working for at least 2 years in the industry and have at least two game credits.
 
You don't have bootstrap.py there
 
4:28 PM
:v
 
Oh
Ahem. I might have copy pasted too much.
 
Xeo
lol
 
@TonyTheLion woo, I'm famous
 
@nightcracker Block info can contain what the thread was that alloacted, size info, free store, all kinds of nice admin stuff
 
@jalf :)
 
4:37 PM
btw @R.MartinhoFernandes if you can spare an user on your YouTrack we can get integration between the two going
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok, but cannot do that here (too much hassle to retrieve the right passwords)
I'll ping you when I get home.
 
Xeo
apropos home
 
> Microsoft Visual Studio is waiting for an internal operation to complete.
 
Xeo
time to go
 
Fuck you, VS.
 
4:41 PM
> Ping request could not find host CatPlusPlus. Please check the name and try again
 
user3010322
.... I know how I can do it.
 
user3010322
I know how I can do it!
 
user3010322
I CAN CHEAT WITH MORE VARIADICS
 
Probably not.
 
JBL
@ThePhD It's gonna end in flames.
@EtiennedeMartel "Le classique".
 
4:46 PM
@ThePhD FWIW, we did it already. Exactly 20 lines including empties.
 
@JBL J'va frapper quelqu'un si ça continue.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now I just feel worse than I'm slower than everyone. Thanks a lot. :c
 
Hmm, I had done it before, and the exact same technique yields the 20 lines, so I had a bit of a head start.
 
@ThePhD Don't worry. I couldn't even do it if I tried.
 
@JerryCoffin yea, been busy
still busy
thought I'd give the lounge a go
 
4:48 PM
hi
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, je penserai tu parler francais, je parle un peut and i dont know how to make the squiggly c in chat
 
@GlennTeitelbaum ç?
 
JBL
@EtiennedeMartel I tried punching the screen, didn't work.
 
lol, squiggly c
 
JBL
@GlennTeitelbaum Lol, I thought "Squiggly C code".
 
4:50 PM
yes maybe instead of C++1y we could call it ç++ (cut and paste works :))
 
JBL
std::miçmatch
 
Ç, ou c cédille, est un graphème d'origine castillane (et pourtant disparu de l'espagnol contemporain) utilisé dans les alphabets albanais, azéri, kurde, tatar, turc et turkmène en tant que lettre et dans les alphabets anglais, catalan, français, frioulan, occitan et portugais comme variante de la lettre « C ». Il s'agit de la lettre C diacritée d'une cédille. Utilisation Lettre diacritée « Ç » permet d'indiquer le son , là où un « C » simple aurait représenté le son (principalement avant « a », « o », « u » ou à la fin d'un mot) dans les langues suivantes : * Catalan (ce trencada...
 
TLDR: its a squiggly C
 
JBL
Cédille.
Damn it !
 
and there's that funky e
 
JBL
4:53 PM
Holy ! What the hell is "Frioulan" ?
 
Ç
 
JBL
@GlennTeitelbaum ê
What'll be the name of that one... ?
 
no thats e hat and then theres the backwards funky e
 
Friuli (, , , , ) is an area of northeastern Italy with its own particular cultural and historical identity. It comprises the major part of the autonomous region Friuli-Venezia Giulia, i.e. the province (administrative provinces) of Udine, Pordenone, part of Gorizia, excluding Trieste. The historical capital and most important city of Friuli is Udine, it was also the capital in the Middle Ages of the Patriarchate of Aquileia. Other important towns are Pordenone, Gorizia, Sacile, Codroipo, Cervignano del Friuli, Cividale del Friuli, Gemona del Friuli, Monfalcone, and Tolmezzo. G...
 
4:54 PM
@Jefffrey I just ran into Ș the other day, which is different from Ş. That was fun
 
@GlennTeitelbaum There's three different ones, no?
 
Can never have too many squigglies
 
JBL
@Jefffrey Yep, it just strucked me as a funny name.
 
i remember its really egu and grave or somesuch
 
It is
 
JBL
4:55 PM
@GlennTeitelbaum "E accent aigu, and E accent grave", yes.
 
Need to put branch names in the artifacts.
 
user3010322
=/
 
E avec une chose ou une esohc
 
user3010322
Can I include type_traits ?
 
user3010322
I apparently need to make a std::unqualified
 

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