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2:00 PM
Portal I is free, right?
 
@thecoshman no, ignorant is the word I was looking for
 
... I thought they gave it out for free?
Hm.
STEEAAAAM check.
 
I have fairly small amount of knowledge of games
 
@ThePhD Yes, during a limited period of time.
 
2:00 PM
neither do I have much patience when it comes to playing them
 
It's still quite cheap though.
 
actually, I might have a free spare copy of it on steam
if you remind me in an hour or two, I'll be home so I can check
 
@jalf right
I don't even have steam installed
nor do I have an account, IIRC
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, you're right. Dang.
 
I've recently taken to Kerbal Space Program, and loving it :D
 
2:01 PM
@TonyTheLion well, that part is easy to fix, at least :p
 
I think I had it installed once, a long time ago, found it very annoying and got rid of it
 
You don't have Steam? That's a bit of a shame. Steam is a great platform.
They've massively improved it from before.
Like, MASSIVELY.
 
When I had it, it sucked and used all my PC's resources
 
Might be safe to give it another go. It's gotten better at running quietly in the background and not bothering you.
 
Ok, I'm boarding in ten minutes. See you later.
 
2:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Have fun!
 
laters
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes see ya
 
ooh, where's he going?
 
Germany
job interview
 
exciting :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes hope it goes/went well!
 
2:05 PM
neato
 
not sure if it is just this job, but I am coming to conclusion that I really don't want to be a 'programmer'
 
@thecoshman Well, we can't answer that one. :) But it's perfectly possible that you'll be happier doing something else for a job, and just code as a hobby
or it's just your current job that sucks :)
from what I remember you telling us about your current job, I think it's pretty much a given that it sucks, though
 
coding as a job is never as exciting as just doing it for a hobby, I find
 
s/never/rarely/
I don't tend to agree, because, I can't usually be arsed to actually program unless someone really wants to have it. Only then I get fired up and make miracles happen :)
 
2:11 PM
@sehe heh. I'm just having a hard time being interested in job
 
I want to be rich and play games all week.
 
well, I wouldn't want that either.
 
@CatPlusPlus It'd get boring quick, trust me.
 
you'd get bored of games too
 
@CatPlusPlus and eat steak and drink malt whisky.
 
2:12 PM
Works so far.
 
I have spent more than a year at home due to medical condition
it get's boring after a while too
 
I've spent most of my life at home.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm sorry to hear that.
 
If I'm too bored to do anything, I just go to sleep.
Win-win.
 
@sehe being sorry has never helped anyone, have you not noticed that?
 
2:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus most people have spent most of their time at home
 
@CatPlusPlus What if you're not tired?
 
I'm always tired.
 
@CatPlusPlus sounds very cat like
 
There's also books.
 
Did I say I was boarding?
 
2:13 PM
@TonyTheLion Holy shit Cat Plus Plus actually is a cat.
 
you did
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yea
 
@jornak yep
 
Not in the next half hour.
 
so am I
 
2:13 PM
@TonyTheLion being sorry is big win with at least some ladies. then it matters not what. it's just the fact of being sorry for any unspecified reason
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sweet. Hanging around in airports indefinitely is such a lot of fun. I envy you
 
I'm not exactly a lady by any stretch of the imagination
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf "it's just the fact of being sorry for any unspecified reason" -- you mean being canadian?
 
@CatPlusPlus I like to read, just can't read much at a time. any time of the day, I can only read for a about ten minutes before my eyes are to tired
 
2:14 PM
It's a perfect time to go to sleep, then!
 
@jalf urgh, get's quite boring after a while. Spent a fair amount of time waiting around in airports. Back when I had the luxury of being able to travel whenever I felt like it.
 
though I must spend about at least 90% of my waking life looking at stuff less then a foot away
 
@TonyTheLion You should buy the SarcasmSensor 3000.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
urgh I fail at sarcasm detection so badly.
it's no longer funny
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :)
 
2:16 PM
Does it look sincere? It's sarcasm.
 
@TonyTheLion Like a spoiled kid with a rich dad? :P
 
I thought the "indefinitely" kind of gave it away. :)
I actually kind of like airports, as long as I know how long I'll be staying there. Lots of people to look at, shops, free wireless and the prospect of going travelling really soon
 
@jornak lol
@jalf I overlooked that :(
 
but as soon as the flight gets delayed or something, and you don't even know how long you'll be sitting there waiting, it suddenly becomes no fun at all
 
@TonyTheLion Doesn't prevent it from happening
 
2:18 PM
@TonyTheLion I have this British friend that runs a million dollar development company (he's 18). His father is a lawyer at the UK's top IP rights law firm. He takes a Mercedes-Benz E Class (with a driver) where-ever he goes.
 
@jalf The flight information screen says "Estimated 15:40" (It's currently 15:20).
 
@TonyTheLion Yet he acts like it's normal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hope they stick to that then.
 
If I had a million dollars...
...I'd play more MMOs.
 
@jornak not bad. I don't care so much for money, tbh. Have seen how people get when there's lots of money.
 
2:19 PM
@TonyTheLion Yeah, well this guy can be a pompous ass though, but he's smart as fuck.
 
Lol, @LuchianGrigore, i was just editing that question
 
@jornak eh, I hate that about rich people. They get all snobby. Fuck that
 
@TonyTheLion Well he's kind of half-down-to-earth, half snobby
 
All the rich people I know personally are cool dudes.
 
@jornak ah, well down-to-earth is a nice quality
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're more lucky than me. I have family that's not poor by any stretch of the imagination, and I don't consider them to be very nice by any stretch either.
 
2:21 PM
I think I just got upvote spam
 
the only thing they can do is fight about money. urgh
 
@thecoshman don't worry, it will be reverted soon :P
 
@thecoshman you 'think' lol
 
@LuchianGrigore is that a threat :O
 
@thecoshman it's a fact...
@thecoshman it can only be a threat if I had the power to undo votes
which I don't
sadly...
 
2:23 PM
@TonyTheLion The only bad thing about him is that his favorite language is Java
 
are the 'rewards' you get from rep only whilst you are above that rep level?
 
@jornak lol
 
@thecoshman badges stick around
 
@jornak about who?
 
@TonyTheLion That being said he does work for Jagex (UKs largest independent game dev and publisher by staff level) and they work in Java
@LuchianGrigore One of my UK friends
 
2:24 PM
@sehe but permissions don't?
 
@jornak Games in Java. Meh
 
@all_active_users Greetings guys..!!
 
games in java :))
 
@TonyTheLion Hey, RuneScape is actually switching to HTML5 in the near future :P
 
@jornak oh yeah! HTML5 I love Ham Tile Live!
 
2:26 PM
@thecoshman -pokes you in the eye-
 
@thecoshman It will be reverted, but at least you'll get that badge for hitting the repcap.
 
@jornak <blinks eye so hard your finger snaps off>
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, that'll be nice :P
 
Is it just me or the guy is kind of twisted:
 
@thecoshman of course not
 
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Q: memory allocation using runtime type information

user1703586I got to know about run-time type information in c++. This can be accomplished with typeid keyword in c++. int main() { //these two where user-defined class Complex x; Point3D y; const type_info& s = typeid(x); cout<<typeid(y).name()<<...

 
2:28 PM
So the story goes, this guy develops botting/automation software for RuneScape (Java game), Jagex develops anti-botting measures and says whichever dev cracks it first gets a job there. They're so sure of themselves.

But anyway, the guy does it in 2 days, goes to "RuneFest" (Jagex's RuneScape convention), shows it to their CEO, gets hired on the spot as a Game Engine dev.
 
The question When asking for help with software, new programmers often ask questions which nobody could possibly answer. Here is an example: I am writing a Perl program, but it doesn't work. I am reading in the names but they come out wrong. Is there a solution? The question is unanswerable for three reasons: #readers don't know what the goal is #readers don't know what the problem is #readers don't have example source code in which to look for the problem Goal For readers to know what's going wrong, they must first know what right looks like. Tell readers what you're trying to ...
Curious that this exists in wikipedia.
 
@jornak sounds like a smart guy
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes tempting to slip in 'ask on stackoverflow
 
@TonyTheLion I tried to get him in here to argue his case about using Java over C++ but he's busy :(
 
@sehe I agree, but at the same time unless I'm conquering interesting problems, that fire gets doused quickly. ... That was from an old message. Sorry. This is what I get for not paying attention
 
2:32 PM
@jornak don't troll
 
@TonyTheLion The guy's getting ready to go to Cambridge Uni to get his CompSci PhD
@thecoshman He's stubborn as fuck, I think it'd be lulzy to see him try to convince everyone here Java's better
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes good ref
 
@jornak would be more 'lulzy' if every one just agreed to him, he comes in here ready for fight for java, and we would be all 'yeah bro, we all wish we could use java'
 
@thecoshman Heh.
 
@thecoshman @jornark Personally, I don't think I can stand Java. It's not a bad language but it's syntax rules bother me greatly.
That and why Minecraft Java server take more than TF2 and other game servers combined? q_q
Why you take my memory, Java?
 
2:37 PM
@ThePhD Because notch fails at programming
3
 
Als
@Cheersandhth.-Alf: Long time
@TonyTheLion: Long time Lion...
 
@jornak I remember the days when Minecraft would slow down on even the fastest computers. It was glorious to see. Then that new guy, b or jib or whatever, got hired to Mojang.
 
How the hell does someone get 2k rep / week????!!!!!
 
@jornak And then things started running really fast. It was fantastic.
 
@LuchianGrigore you can get rep from other things, thus get more then 200 in a day
@ThePhD jeb :P
 
2:39 PM
@thecoshman I know that... but still...
 
@thecoshman Yeah, jeb. Fixed that shit right up.
 
@LuchianGrigore The best I've done in one week is 1800 or so. I've seen Jon average like 400 - 500 a day for an entire week.
 
@ThePhD dinnerbone is doing a world of magic as well, the latest snap shot claims to have sorted out the lighting system
 
@ThePhD It is a bad language
 
Ah, just looking through the history
I've done it once :D
But every week... that's just crazy
 
2:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus Well, people get stuff done in it, so it can't be all bad, -but-, I just hate how it treats your code as a second-class citizen to the EVER IMPORTANT JAVA LIBRARY Huehuehue.
 
People get stuff done in PHP and assembly, that's not an indicator.
 
This... is true.
 
@Als ohai
 
I love minecraft. It reminds me of my childhood days when I used to dream of landscapes made from ice cream, and I could eat caverns out from the ground
 
Library is important, except Java's is bad, too.
 
2:41 PM
@ThePhD you can make a house of shit, your house is still made out of shit
 
Of course the ground was rocky road
 
You should write as least code as possible.
 
Als
@TonyTheLion How have you been?
 
With Java amount of boilerplate could sink a continent.
 
@Als I'm alright. You?
you seem to come in here only very occasionally these days.
are you still pissed off at us?
 
2:42 PM
If C# was more cross-platform I'd probably use that over Java.
 
or just busy? (ie you have a life, whereas us lot don't have one)
 
@CatPlusPlus You ought to submit that to xkcd.. how much Java could literally sink a continent (disks and such)
 
more info/code on factories? is there an implementation of factory u knw of which wud be helpful for me? — user1703586 24 secs ago
 
One Java.
 
Als
2:43 PM
@TonyTheLion I am quite okay..Nothing like that, just busy a little...
 
Java is a unit now? LOL
 
@Neil depends how poorly you want to store your data
 
what the fck is so hard in proper spelling
 
hi
 
@Als ah ok
 
2:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz fuck FTFY
 
@thecoshman And compression and the like.
 
@Neil What-If every program in the world was developed with Java
 
Ahahaha @thecoshman correcting people.
 
@Neil or lack there of
 
@jornak that would be a good reason to consider suicide :P
 
2:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz class WhateverFactory : IFactory
 
@jornak That's a paradox.. how is Java implemented?
 
@thecoshman I lol'd how you made a typo at first ;)
 
Als
@TonyTheLion You seem to be here a lot these days(I am only guessing)
 
@Als yes, I have no life
 
@CatPlusPlus particularly when people feel the need to mask saying fuck
 
2:44 PM
@Neil Which came first, the language or the compiler? The eternal question...
 
@BartekBanachewicz sh
 
Als
@TonyTheLion :D
 
@TonyTheLion want a copy of Portal? Looks like I've got two spares for some reason
 
@LuchianGrigore since when exactly bread is made in factories?
 
@jornak not really, language
 
2:45 PM
@jornak The Machine Code
 
@jalf sure :)
 
unless you count humans as the first compiler
 
Contest: find 15 cosh's messages that don't have the edit pencil next to them.
 
not home yet
 
@TonyTheLion gimme an email address or steam username to send it to then :)
 
2:45 PM
@thecoshman :
 
And also please kill me because Java
 
@CatPlusPlus anti-one box
 
deleting soon.
 
@jornak The chicken.
 
hope you copied it
 
2:46 PM
ebil spum bots will eet yu
 
I got it
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
quick, everybody post it in plain sight
 
your mum
 
Als
@jalf what portal are you guys discussing about?
 
2:47 PM
Where is plain sight I can't find it help help
 
@thecoshman That was daknok yesterday!
 
@Als the first one atm
 
was it really that hard to say 'my username @ gmail.com
 
Why did daknok ragequit, anyway
 
2:48 PM
@thecoshman my username does not have the angry bit in it
 
Als
@jalf First of what?
 
@Als Portal? :D
 
First of things.
 
don't tell me you've never played it either
 
oh gawd
 
2:48 PM
@TonyTheLion my point is, it's easy enough to describe it words such that bot (other then the bot) can not just crawl pages for it
 
Als
@jalf oh game? naah i didn't then :)
 
@thecoshman ah right
 
Stop obsessing about spambots.
 
@CatPlusPlus Part of it was something about a moderator removing a comment of his... I didn't get the rest of the story...
 
spambots everywhere.
@CatPlusPlus what?
he ragequit
lol
 
2:50 PM
@CatPlusPlus I don't need to penis enlargement!
 
@Chimera wow.
 
he did? why?
 
@thecoshman That's what she didn't say.
 
link to transcript
 
2:51 PM
damn you
 
@CatPlusPlus on the contrary; but let's not spend the next half hour talking about my cock
 
I can't even find his profile
 
Als
Who's? I feel I don't anyone here anymore...its been long enough to feel that way anyways
 
you a word?
@Als daknok
 
Als
@TonyTheLion okay..though I don't know or remembering interacting with him/her
 
2:55 PM
@Als him
 
@TonyTheLion He had it removed.
Deleted
 
@Chimera woah, he did a full on rage quite then
 
@thecoshman Seems like.
 
@Als I'm in an out irregularly enough that it may not mean much, but the last time I remember noticing you around was before he showed up, I think.
 
what was it over?
 
2:58 PM
what I understood is that he got angry at mod deleting his comment. but it sounds stupid
 
Als
@JerryCoffin Looks like that...How are you doing though? long time eh
 
I'm sure there was more to it, but all I heard was that he was mad about a comment of his being removed by a mod.
He was probably having a bad day.
 
FUCKING fuck. The guy i got downvoted for (passing arrays as pair of size/pointer) posted another question. Seems his pointers are fucked up. stackoverflow.com/q/12623978/752976
Yet still people are happy to solve "off by 1 in pointer arithmetic problems"
instead of just telling him to use the fucking vector
<headdesk>
 
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A: A few things about division by zero in C

Nirav RanparaHere are the Ans : Edit: The question is about C++ and the result in C++ is undefined, as clearly stated by the standard, not the IEEE or whatever other entity that doesn't, in fact, regulate the C++ language. The standard does. C++ implementations might follow IEEE rules, but in this case it's...

 
@LuchianGrigore: Wow. Seriously.
 
3:03 PM
@LuchianGrigore what a jerk
 
@Chimera jeez
@jalf got the email. Thanks :)
 
hmm
 
Als
@TonyTheLion I get a feeling that the lounge has changed quite a bit.It's become more of an means of drawing attention to Qs, which I remember was distinctly fretted upon.
@DeadMG hey Pup
 
if I was speaking to a recruiter about a job, then if he gave my CV to the client, and now he wants me to call him, that must mean success, right? If the client didn't like me, he'd just say "Whoops, unsuccessful".
@CatPlusPlus On Steam.
 
@DeadMG or he wants to tell you that you suck directly...
my 2 cents...
>:D
 
3:08 PM
lol
 
@DeadMG well, it generally means they want to speak to you directly. Doesn't mean y ou have any job yet
 
no, I know that
but he wouldn't ask me to call if he didn't want to go further, I mean
 
now you have to convince them that you're worth it for them
@DeadMG yes
@Als well, people seem to post questions in here. I don't have anything against it.
but drive by linking is still frowned upon
 
@TonyTheLion Some people just like to tell failures to sod off directly, rather than just email/text <g>
 
regulars can post questions, because they also contribute to the general conversation
@MartinJames lol
 
3:10 PM
we often get questions which are like, "Lol, look at how stupid this questioner is" or "Help me close this question"
but that's very different to "Help me with this question"
 
we like to tell people how stupid they are :P
 
@TonyTheLion that's stupid
 
you're silly.
 
aren't those the guys that did the Unicorn Meat?
 
3:12 PM
@DeadMG indeed
 
@TonyTheLion Drive-by linking? If that when you put a build on and run so that the unresolved externals cannot catch up?
 
oh fucksticks!
I had my number listed wrong on my CV too
 
@DeadMG dildos?
 
3:19 PM
@TonyTheLion I've done that before - "I've just put a build on", (knowing it's going to fail), "so I might as well go home early".
 
@MartinJames haha
 
@DeadMG oh good lord, you may as well forget about who ever you sent that to
@DeadMG 'too' what else did you get wrong o_0
 
@thecoshman It was originally listed wrong on a jobseekers site.
 
@DeadMG do you know how use phones? :P
 
3:20 PM
obviously not
 
@EtiennedeMartel not loading
 
@thecoshman The phones wil not accept his card without a special code that has to be sent in the post <g>
 
@MartinJames what the smeg? you have mixed up conversations here buddy
any way
time to fly home!
 
you fly?
 
@Als Pretty well. I believe the last time we talked was before my baby was born, so I have a semi-new baby (2 months old now).
 
3:25 PM
@thecoshman It has been known. Yesterday, I started using ':=' for assignment in C. The compiler was not impressed.
 
user784668
@JerryCoffin So it's upgrade time now?
 
@MartinJames lol
 
@Fanael Hmmm...mostly what needs upgrading is my sleep (if I could get even 4 hours a night, that would be pretty awesome).
 
@TonyTheLion I'm doing C, C++ and Delphi on the same system - it gets confusing.
 
oh gawd
 
3:27 PM
@MartinJames You really need to convince them to let you use some Haskell and assembly language to keep from getting bored...
 
@JerryCoffin You should have read the system requirements before 'purchase' :)
 
@thecoshman Vaguely.
 
@MartinJames Oh, I knew what I was getting into -- but the older I get, the more painful lack of sleep gets.
 
for @thecoshman and @TonyTheLion:
New post - Do boring jobs make you more creative? http://goo.gl/PPei2
 
hello all :)
 
3:31 PM
@JerryCoffin There is a bit of assembler in the firmware. FIQ SD-card driver, keypad debouncer etc on the ARM board, timer on the 6808 board. Luckily, none on the PC/database stuff.
 
@sehe my job isn't that mind numbing, it's just I have a severe lack of motivation at times
 
@MartinJames Now that's an idea: ODBC code in assembly language. Shouldn't take more than a million lines of code to execute a query...
 
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Q: I don't know this assembly function works

Silvester0x000000000040102b <phase_2+0>: push %rbp 0x000000000040102c <phase_2+1>: push %rbx 0x000000000040102d <phase_2+2>: sub $0x28,%rsp 0x0000000000401031 <phase_2+6>: mov %rsp,%rsi 0x0000000000401034 <phase_2+9>: callq 0x401400 <read_six_numbers> ------...

fail
 
@Dest Hi! Is your friend 'Source' OK too?
 
@TonyTheLion :))
 
3:36 PM
well, I have a phone interview early next week
 
:)
have phun
 
lol
 
@JerryCoffin Hmm.. I think I'll stick to linking DB components with the IDE:)
 
Oh right, @DeadMG What happened to that google thing?
 
they haven't gotten back to me yet
although my parents say, accurately, that it's only been a few days
 
lol
 
@DeadMG Is that a "they haven't and won't" or "they haven't gotten to it"? Or do you know?
Oh snap watch out. Wait for it. Waaaiiit fooor iiit.
Here it comes.
 
@Drise No idea.
 
@MartinJames Cheater! (But that's a compliment -- "programming" could pretty be defined as "cheating, organized and codified").
 
Huh. Well I guess nothing interesting is going to happen. I thought we were going to have a drive-by linker.
Damned. And I was preparing for war too.
 
3:49 PM
@JerryCoffin I have to cheat as much as I can - I suck at SQL.
 
Als
@JerryCoffin: Hey congratulations are in order. Job well done :)
 
@MartinJames I'll bet you say that to all the girls...
@Als What am I being congratulated for? Leaving "well" out "pretty well" in the definition?
...or just for a reasonable simulation of coherence on about 7 hours of sleep so far this week?
 
Als
@JerryCoffin Oh sorry, I didn't reply back to the message I meant to congratulate you on being a father again...Actually, I had left the chatroom and received notification of your message and by the time I came in here the message had scrolled over so i didn't search for it.
 
weee I'm home :)
 
sweet
 
3:57 PM
downloading steam :)
 
Damn, Jeff, that was deep.
 
Steamin'.
 

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