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6:01 PM
should I make my string assume that all encodings can be translated to a series of unicode codepoints? Seems the easiest way to do conversions. Otherwise I have to figure out double-dispatch or something.
 
@MooingDuck I'd go with having it use a single, fixed unicode encoding internally, and allow you to serialize to/from other encodings from that
so yes, all encodings can be translated to unicode
 
wikipedia says "Unicode is an effort to include all characters from previous code pages into a single character enumeration that can be used with a number of encoding schemes", so I'll go with that.
@jalf the whole point of this library is to use whatever the user wants underneath. Mostly as an excercise. In the real world if one has to do string manipulation (very rare), one just uses UTF32.
@jalf basically I wasn't sure if all windows codepages could be converted to unicode.
 
ah
they can
 
@jalf excellent, I'll go back and... start over again.
Round 4
 
Ell
do you prefer Point<int> or PointInt or IntPoint or PointI etc. etc. ?
 
6:12 PM
@Ell Point<int>
 
Ell
Right kk
 
Point<int>
 
typedef Point<mytypewithalongname> mtwlnpt;
 
Ell
thats what I was thinking, but Point<int> can't really be shortened much
 
@Ell typedef Point<int> p
 
Ell
6:14 PM
p? I think a little too brief personally
 
Lol 100 screens of errors.
 
@Ell Yeah, but you can always make the typedef as local as possible.
 
Ell
yeah I suppose
 
yeah, go with a descriptive name by default, and shorten it as needed in local scopes
 
display_driver.hpp:12:58: error: 'create_window' declared as a 'virtual' field
Wat.
Does virtual window_impl* create_window(window_request) = 0; look like a field?
 
6:18 PM
@CatPlusPlus what is a "field"? That's a new one to me
 
Isn't field a C term?
 
Ell
aaah pimpl!
 
Ah, fuck, wrong order of includes.
Stupid includes.
 
5
Q: Why C++ compiler (gcc) thinks function is `virtual' field?

Lajos NagyI have a the following method definition in my class: virtual Calc* Compile( Evaluator* evaluator, ResolvedFunCall* fun_call, string* error); For some reason, GCC complains that: error: 'Compile' declared as a 'virtual' field Any ideas why it would believe Compile to be a field, instead of...

 
@CatPlusPlus How does that result in virtual field?
 
6:20 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik huh, my C++ spec actually refers to members as "fields" in a one location
 
window_request didn't exist, so GCC apparently thought those parentheses are there just for kicks.
 
@MooingDuck that's stupid.
 
@CatPlusPlus How strange
 
I've no idea.
 
> GCC apparently thinks because nonsense is no valid type, it can't be a valid parameter declaration, and thus falls back treating the whole declaration as a field
Silly GCC.
 
6:22 PM
Should I store physical source locations in the AST?
 
If you need them.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik 3 locations: §1.7/4, §1.7/5, §18.2/4
I assume these are errors?
 
Ell
is there a ready built thing that throws an exception if a float is outside a range? I need 0.0-1.0 only, was wondering if std::range<float, 0.0, 1.0> existed or something?
 
@Ell I just wrote my own.
 
6:26 PM
@Ell not builtin. There's a term for that.... but I've forgotten it...
clamped!
 
Ell
@DeadMG care to share?
 
Woo, builds.
 
@Ell it's like 5 lines of code, all of them simple.
@Ell wait, function or type?
 
@Ell Plus, you already have my repo link
 
Ell
oh yeah
 
6:27 PM
Sometimes, I look at glskel, and I tell myself "hey, maybe I could port that to OS X". Then I remember I don't have a working C++11 compiler. F me.
 
Ell
yeah i suppose. I'm just extra lazy because its hot
 
Yeah. But I want to use Xcode.
(Weird, I know)
 
Xcode supports C++11. Go to build settings and look for C++ Language Dialect. Be sure to select Apple LLVM compiler as Compiler for C/C++/Objective-C.
 
is there no way to overload a function between taking a value/const reference and taking a nonconst reference?
 
6:29 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik I'm on Snow Leopard, and I don't want to upgrade to Lion. Which means I'm stuck with Xcode 4.0, which only has GCC 4.2
 
oh wait, reference and rvalue. Duh
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's Scheiße.
Try installing clang 3.1 and use a Makefile target.
 
That's my only option.
I'll try that tonight.
Because I already installed clang 3.1
 
You can also try to add two user-defined build settings, setting CC to /usr/bin/clang and CXX to /usr/bin/clang++ (or wherever you have installed clang 3.1). It might work, but I'm not sure.
 
Ell
gimp! y u no maximise!?
 
6:32 PM
I need a better name than getOrCreateSession().
 
@Ell Ell! Y u use GIMP!?
 
Window! It's alive!
 
@EtiennedeMartel couldn't you just symlink clang to gcc so xcode picks that up? After all, it's designed to be a drop-in replacement
 
Ell
@RadekdaknokSlupik gimp is great! what else am I supposed to use?
 
@StackedCrooked get_session()
 
6:33 PM
conjurSession()
 
@jalf I heard that Apple's GCC takes some special args or something.
 
@Ell Adobe Potatoshop.
 
Ell
@RadekdaknokSlupik I can't afford that! and I like using oss
 
@Ell Paint.NET if you're on windows?
 
@EtiennedeMartel write a wrapper shell script which just abandons those args, and passes the rest to clang.
 
6:33 PM
Paint.NET ftw.
 
Ell
I'm on ubuntu
/linux mint/windows 7
 
@EtiennedeMartel ah, that's possible
 
Paint.NET runs on Windows 7.
 
Apparently it has been asked on SO. One of the suggestions is obtainSomething. I think I like that suggestion.
 
Or just use MS Paint.
 
Ell
6:34 PM
ms paint over gimp? really?
 
Everything is better than GIMP.
 
Ell
whyy? whats wrong with gimp?
 
GIMP is licensed under a GNU license.
:P
 
Ell
what is wrong with the gnu license?
 
Also: GIMP's UI sucks ass.
@Ell Everything.
 
6:35 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh wow. Reading
 
Ell
gimp's ui doesn't suck at all?
seriously what constructive reasons are there to hate gimp?
 
destructive*
 
gimp is great for a free bit of kit, but the floating UI is pretty awful
 
I always had trouble with the UI. It's difficult to use.
 
anyone know what happens for basic_string<char, char_traits<char>, allocator<double> >?
 
6:37 PM
@MooingDuck Ain't that a compile-time error?
Type mismatch.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik alright, I'll be crafty.
 
Arrrrgg Mooing Duck y u no use std::.
Anyway, it compiles fine.
 
it would be std::char_traits...
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik because I'm asking a simple question in chat. my code has std::
 
6:39 PM
Y u silly > >.
 
what's ideone? Does it try to compile stuff?
 
@DanDan yes. ideone is win
 
Online compiler.
 
Ell
@DanDan it is no longer just floating - since gimp 2.8 you can have it all in one window
 
@DanDan it's great for showing proof of concept for SO answers.
 
6:41 PM
that is nice.
 
@DanDan ideone is my favorite IDE ;)
 
I often accidentally write static_cast instead of static_assert and get really puzzled by the compiler error message.
 
Write a defect report.
 
1
A: Operator << with virtual classes

Radek 'daknok' SlupikYou need a semicolon after the class definition: class A: public Z { private: int num; public: virtual Z* aa(); // ... }; // <-- SEMICOLON!!1 Also, make sure that Z is defined before A is defined, by #includeing z.h in a.h.

People y u forget semicolon.
@DeadMG my opinion is that that argument is bullshit.
 
6:47 PM
why do people get mad at me when I c-style cast objects to convert? Not pointers, objects. I understand static_cast and friends for pointers, but why should I use them for conversions?
 
I agree, but it comes up surprisingly often
@MooingDuck C-style casts can be const_cast too, which is kinda bad.
 
@MooingDuck because C-style cast can do nasty things like removing constness and volatileness, they act as if private and protected inheritance were public inheritance, and they can invoke reinterpret_cast if you're not careful.
 
c style casts suck
 
@MooingDuck Makes is easier to search for your casting too, try searching for ( or )
 
You know what's sad? That I can recognise MVP cases.
 
6:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus So can I. Usually.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I get yelled at when I cast to a value, where const, volatile, and inheritance don't make a difference. fabs(float(myint));
 
Ell
mvp?
 
Most vexing parse.
 
seems like there's no real reason besides consistancy with all other casts
 
Ell
well consistency is good
 
6:50 PM
Most Vitriolic Paper.
 
@Ell Actually, that is a good arugment :/
 
Ell
ahh muller corner yoghurt pot, why you shatter into a million shards?
 
@DanDan I've yet to want to search my code for casts, and can think of no reason I'd want to.
 
Ell
it stabbed me in the finger :'(
 
Mostly Violent Potential
 
6:51 PM
@MooingDuck Some day in the future you will retype myint.
 
Whatever I do, stupid Chrome still leaks.
 
@DeadMG I feel like he has a fallacy as well. He's ignoring that there might be a reason that almost all kernels are written in C.
 
@MooingDuck That's DeadMG's blog.
 
@MooingDuck Yeah, because there's virtually no other possible language to do it in?
 
Ell
trolol
 
6:52 PM
@CatPlusPlus is it?
 
Ell
@MooingDuck see the signature at the bottom
 
> Posted by DeadMG
 
That might be a coincidence ;)
 
You can write kernels in C++ with little problem.
 
6:53 PM
@DeadMG We should find kernels written in other languages. I know there's at least three java ones.
 
OK
 
Ell
how about this: if we didn't have C, we wouldn't have c++. Thoughts?
 
let me rephrase this
 
If we didn't have C, we would have better C++.
 
there's no other significant kernels written in a non-C language
 
6:54 PM
@Ell So? That doesn't make C relevant outside of an history discussion.
 
@ell we'd be using B and B++
 
Ell
oh yeah :L
but there will always be an inferior language, you don't just go backwards as time progresses
 
C makes sense on embedded systems because of how easy it is to find a compiler.
 
@DeadMG rereading your page, going back to your point, yes. You have very clearly invalidated that argument for C.
 
Most kernels are in C because they started when C++ wasn't good for anything.
 
6:55 PM
NachOS, that academic OS thing, is written in C++. Or, rather, in C with Classes.
 
Nowadays saying that C++ cannot be used for kernels is just bullshit.
 
I personally don't really care
 
@EtiennedeMartel NachOS doesn't sound very academic, though.
 
Singularity proves that you can write a kernel with anything.
 
Some strange people think C>C++. cat-v
 
6:56 PM
kernels are like those super-low embedded platforms- it's too niche to go on about in a question which does not specifically address them
 
@FredOverflow It's an OS made to teach CS students about how OS works.
 
Who cares what programming language Kernels are written in? C and C++ are both hideous languages, but they get the job done.
 
@SamDeHaan Linus is a pathetic moron.
 
Not Torvalds' rants again.
 
@FredOverflow Very true. But C++ is less hideous than C.
 
6:57 PM
@CatPlusPlus I've actually seen an interesting paper on why C++ doesn't work so good for kernels, mostly because C++ instantiates functions at wierd places compared to C, so it's tricky to control where functions are, and also that it calls functions behind the scenes, making it a PITA to make sure the pages with that code is is actually in memory.
Neither of those bar C++, but they add complexity that C doens't have
 
Eh? Language doesn't "place" functions anywhere.
If you can't make your linker work like you want, then it's not a language problem.
 
I like how Torvalds can't make a point without resorting to ad hominem. I guess it's hard to discuss intelligently when your head is stuck in your ass.
 
@CatPlusPlus it's trivial to fix in C, it's hard in C++.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What is ad hominem? Suck my cock?
 
6:59 PM
@CatPlusPlus in C, each function has a function declaration somewhere. Not so for C++ (implicit functions and template functions)
 
@FredOverflow Insults.
 
@FredOverflow Personal attacks.
 
Perhaps C should inherit all the cool things from C++, but not bother with the hard bits. It would be called C+.
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@MooingDuck ...and? C++ has function declarations, too.
 
@MooingDuck So, you dismiss use of the C++ language in the kernel because of poor implementations?
 
6:59 PM
I don't see how that affects anything.
 
Ell
if a colour's value goes above 1.0, should an exception be thrown? What would you prefer? clamping ( aka just leave at max - 1.0 or exception?)
 
@DanDan It's the other way around. C++ needs to drop the C bullshittery.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Pot, meet kettle? Everyone in this room resorts to ad hominem frequently.
 
@DanDan What exactly are those hard bits?
 
@CatPlusPlus er, I meant definition
 
7:00 PM
@Ell I personally asserted it. But AFAIK, there are actually uses of >1.0 values.
 
Ell
@DeadMG I agree
 
@DeadMG I wrote a comment and hit "Publish". It disappeared and nothing happened. :(
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, because C++ makes it hard to control where functions are instantiated
 
@SamDeHaan True, but we mix in real arguments with calling your mother a whore. Whereas that's all Linus can say.
 
Ell
@DeadMG are there? what uses?
 
7:00 PM
@SamDeHaan Not me. I don't feel like who is making the argument has any impact on the validity of the argument.
 
@MooingDuck Linker is the one that places functions in the final image. It doesn't care whether it was generated from a template or not.
 
@Ell Don't recall.
 
Ell
kk
 
plus, on occassion, I make real arguments without referring to someone's mother as fat and/or a sex worker
 
@FredOverflow The bits that make it unsuitable for kernel work, I am guessing there is an issue with virtual functions?
 
7:01 PM
@SamDeHaan What, where.
 
@CatPlusPlus right, but there's no place in code where I can say "put this function here in the image", because that function might not be declared anywhere in teh code.
 
@DanDan The C pseudo-OO implementation would suffer the same problem.
 
Exceptions and RTTI are most problematic for kernels, because you have to implement the ABI/runtime support bits yourself.
 
@SamDeHaan And that a few people in this room use that does not suddenly legitimize Torvalds' behavior.
 
@MooingDuck There's no place in C either. The fact that implementations chose to put it on the declaration is their own problem.
 
7:01 PM
@DanDan virtual functions ain't a problem. They don't need runtime support.
 
@DeadMG sure there is, a pragma before the function definition. Each function has one definition. Not so for C++
@RadekdaknokSlupik they have their own problems in kernels, it's hard to make sure the correct function is loaded in memory before calling it.
 
@MooingDuck "Here" being what?
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, but people QQ too much about 'ad hominem' when the argument has a decent mix of ad hominem and actual argument.
 
A specific offset?
A section?
 
Ell
visual basic 6, now thats a language worth writing an OS in.
 
7:02 PM
@MooingDuck Pragmas are not Standard.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm not sure which, I just read a paper on it
 
Link it, because I call shenanigans.
 
@SamDeHaan No, that's the problem. When you look past the ad hominem, there's nothing left.
 
@DeadMG I'm aware of that
 
@MooingDuck So it's the fault of a given implementation for using them when they're not an appropriate tool for this job.
 
7:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus I'll try to find it again. I'll warn you though, 90% of the article was "MSVC++ can't do it", only 10% was "why it's hard for C++"
 
@SamDeHaan "Actual argument" in Torvalds' case is a biased, uninformed opinion that stopped being valid 10 years ago.
 
So it was valid in 2002?
 
@SamDeHaan It's never decent. If you need to insult the guy in front of you, it means you don't have anything better to say.
 
@DeadMG where would you require the user to put the pragma for your "better" implementation? There's no place that makes sense.
 
@FredOverflow Shush, you.
 
7:04 PM
@FredOverflow Everyone knows we're in 2000, tss tss.
 
@MooingDuck Why use a pragma?
you're the implementation, use an implementation extension
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, not necessarily. Requiring that people be polite before their opinions can be valid seems like a silly attitude. You can be rude, insulting, and know what you're talking about.
 
@DeadMG It was important that certain functions go in certain places. I don't know why, but it sounded like something the compiler/linker couldn't automatically detect.
 
7:07 PM
A ; is a semicolon. — Radek 'daknok' Slupik 20 secs ago
lol
 
@SamDeHaan Yes, but why are you being rude if you know what you're talking about?
 
@MooingDuck Yes, I got that far. What I don't get is why a pragma should be the only possible tool for this purpose.
 
Why do you need to insult the guy?
 
I insult nobody.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Lack of social skills? Pent up aggression? Daddy issues? There's lots of potential reasons.
 
7:08 PM
@DeadMG it isn't, but why would a language extension be any better?
 
@SamDeHaan Doesn't make it any more acceptable.
 
@MooingDuck Because it might actually solve the problem at hand.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik A semicolon is a colon that sometimes refuses to digest.
 
A semicolon is a badly drawn colon.
 
Studio Brussels is currently airing some fine tunes.
 
7:09 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Doesn't it? I can learn from someone even if they are total assholes. Sure, I'm not going to introduce them to my friends that know what is and isn't "appropriate", but that doesn't make an argument invalid.
 
@SamDeHaan ad-hominem is usually only the part that is an attack. An attack on the other person is not a rebuttal of their argument, and thus not constructive to the argument. It's simply not productive.
Also offensive, but that's not related to the debate.
 
@MooingDuck I'm not saying it's productive, I'm arguing that it doesn't invalidate the remainder of their argument.
 
@SamDeHaan Pity Torvalds didn't have any
 
@SamDeHaan I agree with you, cocksucker.
 
@SamDeHaan oh, Etienne de Martel did claim that didn't he? I think he didn't think that through.
 
7:11 PM
lol
 
@SamDeHaan No, but it makes the guy a douchebag. And if the douchebags in question wants to convince me of something, he'll have to be less douchey.
 
Arguing about arguments is just silly.
 
@SamDeHaan But in Torlvads' case, there isn't even a remainder.
 
@Ell ah has become webscale!
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not going to argue the validity of his argument, because I don't consider myself qualified to do that. However, only the first two paragraphs and the last sentence would qualify to me as ad hominem. There's at least something in the middle that has nothing to do with the person who asked the question.
 
7:15 PM
I hate perforce so much
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik It rocks for dual monitor setups. Also buy yourself a window manager with alt-drag moving/resizing. You'll never look back
 
@SamDeHaan There's a lot more than that.
 
@MooingDuck I heard GIT is the new SVN
 
@DanDan Wut?
 
@DanDan my company just switched to perforce, there's no way I can convince them to leave it.
 
7:18 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I think the title needs work :) Otherwise, splendid. Want feedback? Anything else?
@IntermediateHacker I was so tempted to fire right back at your gravatar :)
 
@MooingDuck I never minded perforce that much, but it's expensive when there are cheaper (free) alternatives
 
Emailing a book with hard covers is NP.
NP Hard.
 
@MooingDuck The sunk cost fallacy bites you in the ass: there's no way they're going to switch to git after spending that much money for Perforce.
 
@DanDan when I view submitted changes, it inserts them in the list as it loads them, making me scroll about randomly while I'm trying to find ones I submitted this week. Even when I find my commits, it loads a bunch of new submissions and then scrolls me somewhere else in the list randomly.
 
> Type classes are very like passing the type. If you pass the type, you can do anything. Passing the type is almost a bit too powerful. If I passed just a vtable, all you can do is call those five functions in the vtable. If I passed you a type representation, then you can say: Mmmmm, you're a list of int, I'm gonna blow up the world because of that. [Simon Peyton-Jones]
lol
 
7:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel well, it's not just that, in fairness. There is a lot of work involved in migrating to a different VCS. Now that they have perforce, the cost to keep using it is a lot smaller than the cost to switch to something else immediately. In the long run, switching to Git would pay off. But this week? This month? It'd likely take more time and money than sticking with Perforce. It's not just a fallacy
 
Ell
God I am a disgusting human being
9
 
@Ell What makes you say that?
 
Don't worry, we all are. Well, except me, of course. I'm devilishly handsome.
 
@Ell Did you just watch some dirty porn?
 
Ell
7:26 PM
@FredOverflow my feet :L my hair... my body etc. etc. I won't plague you with the details though
@StackedCrooked no :L porn is not for me
 
@Ell Taking a shower might help.
 
Fred's got a point.
 
@Ell These days there is technology available for cleaning your body.
Like soap which interacts with water etc.
 
TIL: Writing parsers is fun.
 
@StackedCrooked Is that still in research stage or already on the market?
 
Ell
7:28 PM
haha no I do shower :) daily :) I just look feel disgusting anyway :L
 
The fun of internet is: we certainly don't care about your hair and other growth.
The irony with the rest of the world is: it mostly doesn't care either. Sometimes the world cares if you do.
 
@Ell Daily is too often. You damage your skin.
 
@FredOverflow Not sure bout the rest of the world, but at least here in Belgium it's readily available in supermarkets.
 
Ell
@DeadMG really? o.O
 
yeah
ironically, it's called the horny layer, and you can scrub it right off, and the results are quite nasty
 
7:29 PM
@StackedCrooked I think the US has adopted it on TV (in opera form) and the internet embraced it as an object access protocol, that isn't supposed to be very complex.
 
@DeadMG That's what I tell myself if I skip a day.
 
Ell
Maybe I should not shower for a year - you know - to heal up all the damage I may have caused myself by showering daily
 
@StackedCrooked No, really. Science and stuff said it.
 
Come on. Just because you know C++ doesn't mean you have to live in dirt.
 
@DeadMG Everytime you scrub something horny, nasty stuff happens
 
7:30 PM
@DeadMG I know.
A while ago I saw an interview with a dermatologist on TV. She said that it's not healthy for the skin to shower daily. When asked how often she showered she answered: daily.
Kind of unhealthy social norms.
 
Ell
yeah
 
Anyone ever wonder why it is that SO Chat thinks I'm lost? It always displays the helpful, static, text: "not the room you are looking for?" right below the user list.
 
Anyway, @Ell, if you think you're disgusting, you're going to be. Attractiveness is mostly in your head.
 
as long as you turn your underpants inside out every few days and you don't melt people's eyeballs with your stench as you pass, you're doing okay.
 
@sehe There's a "There are other rooms" link missing right under that.
 
sbi
7:34 PM
@sehe Oy, you haven't starred the newbie hints message!
 
@sbi Neither have I.
 
@sehe That message has been there for so long that I didn't even notice it anymore.
 
@EtiennedeMartel mine doesn't have that link
 
@EtiennedeMartel Funny, even when doing a full text search for 'other rooms' in Dragon Fly (like developer toolbar/firebug) I only find your message :)
@sbi Duh, isn't it a sticky for that?
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, but nobody would expect you to get this right anyway.
 
7:36 PM
@sehe It is a great line to use against people who pop in here and post Java questions.
 
@sbi truecakes
 
sbi
There's the link @Etienne was talking about, @sehe.
 
Thanks for the screenshot. I was too lazy to post one.
 
@sbi I totally don't have that link
maybe it's because I'm in more than one room?
 
@sbi You'd think I noticed that. I mean, even the wife came over to look what changed the shadows in the side room. It was oneboxed screenshot
 
7:37 PM
Did you guys honestly read the newbie hints entirely? Or only "diagonally"?
 
@MooingDuck Maybe it is because we have favourite rooms
 
@sehe maybe
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Probably. As you can see, I lack the "rejoin favorite rooms" button. For me, only C++ is a favorite.
@sehe I have no idea what you're talking about.
@StackedCrooked Not only did I read them several times, I even wrote most of it. That said, I haven't looked at them for a while. They might be in need of an overhaul.
 
@sbi You don't need to draw attention to a screenshot that was rather hard to miss
 
@sbi I'm aware of that. I remember very well you scolding me over code that wasn't neatly formatted :)
 
7:40 PM
@StackedCrooked I meandered them
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Oh, did I do that for you? I bet you deserved it! :)
@sehe I still don't know what you're talking about. Care to explain?
 
some of those acronyms are quite obscure. I've not been in a chat room for some time but I'm pretty sure the english language didn't turn into newspeak
 
@DanDan but when they get used, I'm glad that link is there.
I keep forgetting FTFY, which several people in here use.
 
@MooingDuck but if someone went TTBOMK, I'd assume they had fallen awkwardly against the keyboard
 
@sbi Ah. You captioned the oneboxed screenshot. The screenshot however, was selfexplanatory. (I wouldn't have commented, had I not looked across the page and though that Etienne actually posted that screenshot. Turns out, you posted it yourself, so I guess you just intended the 'caption' to go right with it. Non-problem solved),T
 
7:43 PM
I know all the C++ ones except SBRM and ICE/Integral Constant Expression.
 
sbi
@DanDan Many of the acronyms enumerated in the wiki's list I learned in Usenet in the early 90s.
 
@MooingDuck Google is much faster for me
 
sbi
@DanDan OTOH, IYAM the PEBKC. (AKA ID10T.) YMMV. SCNR.
@sehe How is google faster for you? Do you pay them for this?
 
@sbi ...
@sbi YCBWT :)
 
sbi
@sehe No way.
Also, when someone falls face-first onto their keyboard, the result is usually a PERL program, no?
 
7:51 PM
@sbi More likely a whitespace program.
 
@StackedCrooked Once, a year ago.
 
I like it when my code actually works.
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik I don't think that's possible. Definitely never happens to me
 
sbi
> Sod the Mayans, I'm a follower of the UNIX Philosophy. Do one thing, do it well, and the world will end on January 19th 2038. — iRajanand
 
Woah, I've really been here over a year now. So much work that could have been done.
But wouldn't be anyway. I've always been lazy. (English, how does it work.)
 
7:59 PM
@RadekdaknokSlupik I like it even more when the code my code is supposed to communicate with works.
 

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