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10:00 PM
@CatPlusPlus I just finished working
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes That's a dupe
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Actually, I haven't worked in hours. Not since I got that job offer.
 
Well, link to the dupe, and I'll vote on it. I'm too tired to grep for the dupe too.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I think you should go to bed
 
But I just woke up!
 
10:02 PM
anyways, how can a robot be tired?
you woke up and you're tired???
oh wait, I'm like that too
 
Overgrowth now has lasers shooting from the eyes.
This is truly the greatest game ever created.
 
oh a game
 
@TonyTheLion Well, maybe "lazy" is a better word than "tired" here.
@Luc yes, I'm sure pots hold liquids. I have over 500 units of booze held in pots right now.
 
you need to get out of your while (true) { __asm ( nop ); }
 
10:04 PM
Cool camera on local multiplayer, too.
 
@CatPlusPlus is it
 
Damn, clang's default search paths are useless.
 
I need to try clang
but I don't look forward to building it
can you not download an already built version?
 
It's a rite of passage
 
10:06 PM
@CatPlusPlus I'm working now. And I was last Friday (saturday, really) at 03:30am. Ok, that was unusual
 
I tried working after midnight, but I just can't. I go all passive and play RotMG or just read the Internet.
 
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;( Ehh, maaan ssooooo many errors... seems like I can completly start rewriting my project -.- C++11 doesn't like me (or mingw with GCC 4.6 and -std=c++0x flag enabled) ;/
 
@CatPlusPlus you read the internet ?
 
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I >use< the internet :x
 
10:08 PM
@RafalGrasman I vote MinGW.
Mostly because it's a piece of crap.
 
it seems people do weird shit with the internets
 
My ceiling has holes, your argument is invalid.
 
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Well if anyone wants to play around with a originally-a-windows-project-but-had-in-mind-cross-compatibility then you're all free to try compile this shit: gpb.googlecode.com/files/AIF.zip xD
 
I didn't sleep all night, then slept some on the lecture, then ~3hrs after getting home, and now I'm not sleepy again.
Sucks.
 
user1182183
remember to change itoa to sprintf for linux :X
 
itoa is not C++11.
 
itoa is not even C++.
 
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itoa is for windows
 
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bit it;s not on linux
 
10:10 PM
itoa is C
 
itoa is something you should never even consider.
 
itoa sounds evil.
 
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;o
 
user1182183
what's so wrong about it?
 
itoa is fugly as fuck
 
10:11 PM
boost::lexical_cast<std::string>?
 
user1182183
never got problems with it...
 
Also, use VCS.
 
user1182183
didn't download boost yet ;x
 
user1182183
still need to-do
 
@RafalGrasman Dunno, does it require you to preallocate your buffer?
 
10:11 PM
Do it now and be in heaven.
 
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i have char value[32]; and seems good, not bad for me ; o
 
OVERFLOOOWWWW
 
pointers
 
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e?
 
10:12 PM
Also, inconsistent indentation.
Style, dammit.
 
Use stringstream or lexical cast.
 
_wcsicmp, just no.
 
user1182183
Like I had other choices without boost...
 
_stricmp, ugh.
 
Wait, if that's C++, why are you using C-style string functions?
 
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10:14 PM
cuz it's also C? xD
 
because people confuse C with C++
 
And some non-standard extensions.
 
C != C++
 
user1182183
I know C != C++
 
It can't be C and C++.
 
user1182183
10:14 PM
well 'you are allowed to use C functions in C++ programs'
 
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or not? ; o
 
Doesn't mean you should.
 
true, but why would you?
 
In the Netherlands you are allowed to smoke weed. Doesn't mean you should do that.
 
Not when you try to replace idiomatic code with outdated C-isms.
 
10:15 PM
lol
 
user1182183
I don't smoke :P
 
+1
Rafal, I recommend you watch the GoingNative talk by Bjarne about C++ style.
 
user1182183
okay ; o
 
2
Q: Addresses and lifetime of rvalue references (or of xvalues in general)

FatalErrorIf I write the following code: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout << &(int &&)123 << endl; return 0; } Then g++ complains: foo.cc: In function ‘int main()’: foo.cc:7:20: error: taking address of xvalue (rvalue reference) Ok, thanks...

see answers
 
It's an hour but it's really worth it. I watched it last night.
 
10:19 PM
good talk, I watched it too
 
I'm torn between sleeping and playing DX:HR.
 
Or RotMG.
 
OMG clang compiles my code.
 
@Rafal Yes that one.
 
10:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus this always reminds me of @DeadMG
 
@CatPlusPlus Is RotMG what DeadMG will become after being dead for a while?
 
Realm of the Mad God!
 
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Mhm I'm a Command and Concquer Red alert 3 fan, Dark Reign 2 fan (actually trying to get the multiplayer alive, darkreign2.googlecode.com) and some good shooters (MW hater)
 
@CatPlusPlus not that far off, Dead thinks he's a god of some sorts at times :P
 
@CatPlusPlus He does sound like a mad god sometimes.
 
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10:20 PM
I men CoD hater xd
 
@TonyTheLion Hey, stop saying what I'm going to say!
 
CoD was fun until Black Ops and quickscopers
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I was first
 
@TonyTheLion +1
 
damnit
I'm giggling like a little girl
 
10:22 PM
Plot twist: you are a little girl.
 
oh, I'm learning here :P
 
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I suggest people to try Operation flashpoint, any of it but the one I like the most is Dragon Rising (OF:DR), however Crisis 2 seems to be a game that can keep you playing for 8 hours, then it gets boring. But the most funny and hard shooter is actually Joint Operations: Typhoon rising with Escalation expansion pack! the bots have wallhack for grass and tree's . kinda hard to get past them.
 
the plot thickens
 
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Or well bad programmed sight-of-view
 
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or whatever ;x
 
10:23 PM
Field of vision? Point of view?
 
a mix, it seems
 
Line of sight, actually.
 
I need a laptop to write code (C++) in bed and to improve my brain (by reading reddit and 4chan).
 
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ye field of vision, they just se through grass, trees and very sharp terrain
 
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I have a laptop however it pisses me sometimes off, but I need it. I travel much around to friends for lan parties :P
 
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10:25 PM
I have a 5 year old desktop which I bought for 450 euros in total and it can take Crysis 2 with ease lol, however Crisis 1 not xD
 
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Me & my friends
 
I have a two years old desktop my parents bought for €1100 and it runs clang fine so I'm happy.
 
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xd
 
Oh and of course a browser so I can be here.
 
Xeo
10:27 PM
@daknøk My Debian vbox with 512mb RAM, and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ also runs clang fine, and is really cheap. :)
 
I don't play video games except for Minecraft and LittleBigPlanet 2.
 
Xeo
@daknøk I recently started playing Minecraft.
Bad mistake.
 
user1182183
I started writing plugins for bukkit, quite easy ; o
 
@Xeo nice.
@Rafal don't. Java is bad for your brain.
 
Xeo
@daknøk Not so nice when your programmer brain keeps you awake at night because it's rethinking over and over how to improve those redstone circuits, or what kind of cool stuff can be made with it...
 
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10:29 PM
Mhm I don't like java,yes. but well they (or anybody else) won't port MC to C++...
 
Xeo
@RafalGrasman I really really wonder why it was written in Java at all...
 
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portability
 
Xeo
I mean, it's pretty performant, but I think writing it in C++ would be a big boost
 
Doubt it.
 
Xeo
@RafalGrasman Yeah, because C++ is not portable... right.
 
10:30 PM
@Xeo did you know that redefine is Turing complete? (:
 
Notch knows Java, so he writes Java.
Duh.
 
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yes it would, but for C++ you would need quite a nice framework handling all the cross-compatibility
 
I think Java was invented to show the world what a bad programming language looks like
 
@TonyTheLion No, that was Malbolge.
 
No, that was PHP.
 
10:31 PM
oh lol, forgot about malbolge
 
Malbolge isn't bad, it's just machine code.
 
I need to learn Malbolge
 
Xeo
I throw C into the pit.
 
for science
 
user1182183
10:31 PM
In java you write code and it works everywhere where java is installed.. in C++ you have to think what you will need before you even start, libraries, frameworks, default headers, 3rd party stuff...
 
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quite a lot more work, at least for me.
 
I think I might barf next time someone tells me PHP is good
 
I once asked a question on SO about Malbolge. People actually took me seriously and wrote an answer.
 
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PHP is em.. like 'just a scripting' language..
 
PHP sucks
 
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10:32 PM
and Java itself as long as I know is written in C++...
 
Xeo
@RafalGrasman "Oh, your platform doesn't support Java? Too bad!"
 
any hardcore geek will know malbolge
 
@Xeo What platform are you talking about, btw?
 
Portability is not simple, even in Java.
 
not me, thus
 
10:33 PM
I need to build clang on windows
i wonder is it difficult?
 
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@Xeo mwah, as long as stuff works in linux and windows I'm happy, I don't need other platforms.
 
someone did it the other day here
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Seth did have quite some difficulty, IIRC
 
hmm
:/
i wanna abuse the init list support
 
10:33 PM
if you want a clangasm, you should go read their C++11 status page
 
@RafalGrasman There. I distilled the value from that:
> @armyranged1 opening 'song' was Lacrymosa from the Requiem by W.A. Mozart, see youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs
 
the braces shall be in fear of my dirty hobbies
 
3
Q: How to compile Clang on Windows

Seth CarnegieI have been trying to find a way to get Clang working on Windows but am having trouble. I get Clang to compile successfully, but when I try to compile a program I have a bunch of errors in the standard headers. I am aware of rubenvb's excellent prebuilt versions of clang, but I want to compile i...

 
you're going to find a way to break it, aren't you? @JohannesSchaublitb
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Get a virtualbox
 
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10:35 PM
@sehe , the guy was asking about the other song :P
 
Braces? I'd rather hook up some lambdas.
 
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and the first song, well the pistol intro is a cutt-off from Tomb Raider: Underworld
 
ohh there are prebuilt binaries?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I didn't test the prebuilt one, but I did test the instructions for building it from scratch.
 
eww who would use mingw.
2
 
10:36 PM
Dev-C++ users
 
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and back to games, once I invited a CoD player to join our Joint Ops Lan Party, well we did with 6 guys a mission, his Shots/Kill ratio was 418, amount of kills: 1, amount of shots: 418, LOL. Quite shows the difference between CoD and JO.
 
/usr/local/include/cxxabi.h:51:10: fatal error: 'bits/cxxabi_forced.h' file not found
#include <bits/cxxabi_forced.h>
...
$ ls /usr/local/include/bits/
c++config.h  cpu_defines.h  cxxabi_forced.h  cxxabi_tweaks.h  os_defines.h
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb I think @rubenvb has some for ToT?
 
You gotta be kidding me.
 
10:37 PM
@Xeo i think @rubenvb uses not mingw
 
user1182183
Maybe I got a screenshot, dunno..
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes Heh, not searching /usr/local/include?
 
@Xeo Check where the file that cause the error is.
First line.
 
Xeo
Yeah, system includes are handled differently than user includes
user includes look in the directory of the file being compiled, system includes do not
 
btw, is std::thread in clang yet? (I can't seem to find any mention of it on the chart)
 
Xeo
10:39 PM
@kfmfe04 std::thread is library, aka libc++
 
@Xeo And how come /usr/local/include/cxxabi.h was found?
 
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That one 's quite funny :P
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes Good question!
 
@Xeo - coolio - I take that to be yes, then, since I see it working with 4.6.2
 
10:40 PM
Playing CS:S drunk is fun.
 
I guess it needs more symlinks.
 
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Mhm, I got a nice CS 1.6 but the hl.exe is somehow crashing and another one is not working with my version ~.~
 
What's the header I have to hack to get clang using decent default search paths?
 
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(pirated... )
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes lib/Frontend/InitHeaderSearch.cpp IIRC
 
10:42 PM
Works just fine for me. It's what, 10€ on Steam?
 
I've got to wake up in about 7 hours and 20 minutes so I'm gonna watch GoingNa^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H sleep.
See ya!
 
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Anyway, about threads, if in one thread I doo push_back to a queue and in another thread pop_back, do I need to lock the threads? ; o
 
Xeo
@daknøk Replace ^H* with ^W :P
 
Yes.
You should avoid shared state like fire.
 
@Xeo Ok, thanks. Rebuilding this crap.
 
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10:43 PM
@Cat Plus, Sniper Ghost Warrior was the first and last game I bought from steam, hate them
 
@Xeo nein.
 
user1182183
they don't get it that some people have limited bandwidth..
 
It doesn't even look in /usr/include/c++!
 
So they should do what?
It's digital distribution platform, what'd you expect?
 
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and I mean, updating a 4GB game, 4 times a update of 3 GB is 12 GB, thrree times the whole game!
 
10:44 PM
DVDs?
 
@CatPlusPlus Send you a hex dump by mail that you can type back when you receive it.
 
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I couldn't play the game until all updates were done, well they don't get any money from me
 
Updates are incremental.
Also you never can play multiplayer games reliably until you update it.
 
@RafalGrasman You have the game developers to blame, not Steam.
 
user1182183
but 4 times a 3GB update?
 
10:45 PM
Steam just distributes the files.
 
user1182183
That totally sucks!
 
Also 3GB is what, half an hour.
 
user1182183
yeah and has a crappy steam application saying YOU MUST UPDATE BEFORE PLAYING, no we won't let you playe singleplayer.
 
user1182183
I have just 13 mbits...
 
If you're offline you don't have to update.
 
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10:46 PM
and at the time I was doing the updates I was going from my mobil internet
 
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Well, I thought that but deleting the files, putting internet out, reinstalling from disc
 
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didn't help
 
Also, again, not Steam fault.
 
user1182183
Mhm they should check all games, not just redistribute updates until the game is fully updated..
 
And really, if you're using a platform that's designed solely for distribution of large games, you can't complain if you have a sucky uplink.
What?
 
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10:47 PM
I bought the disc in a store, I wanted to play it, but as I say - steam said I must update.
 
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It even started updating withouth my knowledgem canceling was impossible (which should be).
 
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A shame I didn't record that 9 hours of frustration to show it off here xD
 
The audacity they had to keep your game bug-free.
 
user1182183
Well I also made some auto updaters and I alsways nicely ask the end users if they want to update or not...
 
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not just start overwriting the files and just give a pause update option
 
10:49 PM
lol
 
@RafalGrasman How did you tell? Anyways, the other song was mentioned
 
With 200 games, I would hate if every single one of them asked about updates.
 
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@sehe that's my video lol
 
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@Cat Plus one does appreciate that, one doesn't like it, one hates internet activation for in-store bought discs because he/she has no internet. and many more
 
@RafalGrasman So? That doesn't make you psychic?
 
10:51 PM
I prefer Steamworks to Ubisoft DRM crap.
 
user1182183
I prefer cracks and got no problems, just using legit serials
 
You can always stick to GOG.
 
user1182183
EG I got 3 copies of Red alert 3 to play online with friends
 
user1182183
but they're all cracked because we hate the activation processes
 
Ah dammit, it was a bad sed script.
 
10:52 PM
Yeah, that's one solution. Worse if game server validates the integrity of executable.
 
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@sehe I think we have a misunderstanding, what's you question eh? I though you just were asking how I can tell that the cutscene is from the game.. xd
 
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@CatPlusPlus Well then I
 
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have to stick to the legal methods
 
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but well, today they manage to crack anything
 
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and Cirisis 2 MP is soo bad.. I just could go online with a fake serial and illegal copy.
 
10:54 PM
Crysis was always overhyped.
 
Ooh look at our pretty engine.
 
Crysis is more about whether you could build a machine to play it.
 
user1182183
Crisis 1 yes, but Ciris 2 can be played even by older pc's
 
They toned down the requirements of Crysis 2 though...
 
user1182183
10:56 PM
my friends laptop with intel graphics chipset and a i3 380m could easily handle C2
 
Crysis worked on under-req PCs, too.
 
As a game, I think Crysis 2 was better than Crysis 1. But 1 had the fun part of hacking my rig to be able to handle it.
 
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Yeah ^^
 
I had no problem running it on a 1.5GHz single-core Sempron with what, 1 or 2GB of RAM, and some not-that-new GeForce.
 
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@Cat , I don't think crisis 1 would even allow to starup at my friends laptop with his 'bad' intel chipset graphics xd
 
10:57 PM
There's nothing like tearing open my case, getting a new video card, and a pair of ear-bleeding fans to push my machine to 4.2 GHz just to run Crysis on only high settings.
 
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anyyway the old desktop my parents have has a nice overclocked geforce GT8600 512 MB by me ^^
 
It's a miracle Intel GPUs actually render anything.
 
user1182183
yeah
 
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I prefer Nvidia over AMD somehow, justt because nvidia were the first graphics cards I had and was very proud of them
 
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now I have a amd and can't seem to find a 3d option for my old blue-red glasses
 
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10:58 PM
which Nvidia always had
 
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BTW Crisis 2 looks sooo cool in 3D
 
@RafalGrasman Is there anything special I need? I have two Nvidia cards.
Glasses I assume?
 
user1182183
No, just software
 
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and glasses
 
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ofcourse just take som plastic glasses
 
user1182183
10:59 PM
red and vlue marker
 
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and create then=m yourself
 
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and it worked great
 

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