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user457812
9:05 PM
My arms have gone dead D:
 
ABORT ABORT!
 
lol
abort what?
 
Something.
 
Nothing.
 
anything
 
9:12 PM
lulz
 
luzsec
 
so what's everyone up to?
 
@CatPlusPlus 'A'bort 'R'etry 'C'ancel
 
Cancel = Abort
 
user457812
God I hate using inline assembly when I don't even know assembly
 
user457812
9:19 PM
I just know it's going to backfire horrendously
 
@Potatoswatter OH YEAH
Abort Retry Ignore
Now it's Abort Retry(Debug) Continue
@Potatoswatter I think it depends. If it's a date or a mission, you cancel before and abort during. But if it's a horrible TV Show cough LOST cough I think they mean the same.
 
Hi babes!
 
hey tony
how are you?
 
user457812
Mr. one-way knows how to make me feel like a pretty lady.
 
9:23 PM
you know it baby ;)
 
@ManofOneWay I'm well, what about yourself
oh @Puppy has arrived :)
 
@TonyTheTiger Nice to hear. I'm fine thx
 
woof
 
hi puppy
what's new?
 
The legendary DeadMG
 
9:24 PM
woof woof
 
oh, only barking today
 
actually, I'm about to head to sleep
what's new is, well, nothing
good night
 
Why?
The party has just started in here
 
because I didn't get enough sleep last night/this morning?
 
good nite then
@ManofOneWay so are you in the USA then?
cause you always seem to come online in the evening Europe time
 
9:26 PM
@TonyTheTiger Sweden!
 
@ManofOneWay oh lol, sorry, just looked at your profile
are you working or still studying?
 
Np, I usually enter this chat quite late. I have too much do nowadays
I'm studying (and working as an assistant teacher)
 
user457812
I just leave chat open in a tab so it seems like I'm here and therefore hip and poppin' fresh even though I'm none of the above.
 
oh, so what do you do @nil
 
@CatPlusPlus Cat what's happening?
 
user457812
9:29 PM
Talk to walls, code, complain about things, and go to classes.
 
user457812
And procrastinate heavily on assignments.
 
hahah,
sounds like a lot of us, except some of us are supposed to work instead of go to school
 
user457812
Indeedy
 
nil, are you studying the english language?
instead of programming languages?
 
user457812
I'm a productive procrastinator, assignment time is coding time. If I touch an assignment, I'm instantly nagged by something or other I wanted to try.
 
user457812
9:31 PM
@ManofOneWay Yeah, English major in the writing emphasis.
 
and how is that?
 
user457812
Fun, aside from technical communication
 
do you want to become a journalist?
or a writer?
 
user457812
Latter
 
user457812
9:32 PM
Although more specifically I just want to have more skills than anyone can shake a stick at.
 
woah, a writer in a C++ chat room :P
 
user457812
I also make game art
 
user457812
Qualify that so it doesn't sound as absurd.
 
oh I see
 
user457812
9:34 PM
I'll have to look into getting a degree in CS next, I guess.. probably going to cost more once I have the English degree though.
 
user457812
Or maybe linguistics.
 
:(
As I've said before
in Sweden education is free
 
I have a degree in matriculation
 
meh, you're lucky
 
9:35 PM
wtf is matriculation?
 
user457812
Unfortunately, I'm not in Sweden, so I have to take out tons of loans for stuff. Parents are helping pay for most of it, but I'm still going to end up with a boatload of debt.
 
ugh, that's one thing I've been trying to avoid, having loads of debt
 
I'm lucky until I've started working and paying 30-50% in taxes
 
but sometimes debt is unavoidable, if you want to do something
 
user457812
I get a good amount of grant money, so at least it's not as bad as it could be
 
9:36 PM
it's all about compromising at some point, I guess
 
user457812
One benefit to being poor, I suppose, is that the government is much happier to give me grants
 
oh cool
 
user457812
Well, poor-ish. Our entire family income amounts to diddlysquat, apparently.
 
lol, diddlysquat
funny word
 
diddlysquat?
 
I need to move to the US so that I can improve my english
 
heh, moving to the US is a painful affair, cause a visa is so hard to get
or even a greencard, even harder
 
user457812
Yeah, we're dicks.
 
user457812
Might try the UK instead, but I don't know how hard it is to get in
 
user457812
Or Canada.
 
9:40 PM
UK is easy to get in for a European
 
user457812
My brother recently transferred to a university in Canada - nobody is sure why, since our parents won't help pay for anything out of state.
 
I'm from Sweden, they let us in everywhere.
 
Canada is easier for a European, but you also have to a visa etc... lots of bureaucratic hassle
@nil so you live in the US?
 
user457812
Yeah
 
oh kewl
 
9:42 PM
lol Canadians are easy
 
user457812
That sounds unintentionally sexy/wrong.
 
user457812
Ah crap, forgot to check the mail today..
 
What do you guys think of my website? adlertz.com
 
9:44 PM
but you have some time left, should only be about 6 or 5 pm where you are
 
user457812
It's just a row of mailboxes down a few stories and to the right.. I think.. should take care of that.
 
I've changed the design to more oldschool
 
user457812
Nifty
 
user457812
Simpler than mine, that's for sure
 
9:47 PM
I was tired of my website looking different in different browsers..
 
user457812
Reminds me of a friend's website, actually: ocharles.org.uk
 
user457812
Unfortunately, he likes the perl a bit too much
 
@nil lol :P
 
haha yes. Well I thought of doing my website similarly, but it was too hard to read
 
user457812
If I'm ever in the UK, I'm going to break something over the back of his skull just for that (the perl, that is).
 
9:50 PM
As C++ rather then Perl
like

Website :: About
{

}

Website :: Education
{
...
 
user457812
I'm not sure C++ syntax is really suited for presenting stuff like that
 
I believe you are right =)
anyyyways.. how is it living in the US?
I want to experience that
 
sbi
We should have an FAQ explaining resource management, RAII, and why naked pointers in containers usually aren't a good idea.
 
user457812
Depends on where you are in the US, and since I've only lived in a few places and I was born here, it's hard for me to really say
 
@sbi I'm sure there must be some existing questions that can be candidates...
 
sbi
10:00 PM
@TonyTheTiger Well, good luck searching. I'd better go to bed.
 
@nil I've only been to LA, and I quite liked it as a European
@sbi yea, I've got all day tomo, so I could do that
 
It depends a lot where you are. Northern coastal cities are pretty Euro friendly.
 
user457812
I've only lived in northern California (small city north of the Bay Area) and a few cities in Idaho
 
user457812
Idaho kind of sucks.
 
There are cities in Idaho?
 
10:01 PM
My guess is the East coast is more like Europe then the west coast, but that's a guess, cause I've never been to the East coast
 
user457812
Believe it or not.
 
California is just hot and sweaty
 
I think the differences between European cultures outweigh the differences between the US coasts.
 
lol, but so is Nevada, I guess
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I found people more to my tastes (as an open-minded Berliner) at the west coast than at the east coast.
 
10:02 PM
Between the coastal cities and the countryside though, there is quite a difference.
 
@sbi oh cool, well the people I met in LA were cool
 
user457812
I'd eventually like to move back to northern California or maybe just move to Austin, Texas
 
I always imagine Texas to be nothing but desert, but that's prob not true
lol
 
user457812
It's mostly desert.
 
user457812
Well, mostly wasteland-ish, anyway.
 
10:04 PM
I drove across Texas a few months ago and can vouch for that.
 
oh lol
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger When I entered CA for the first time, coming from Oregon along the coast in the fall, we traded Oregonian rain for nice Californian sunshine. When I came down the same route again years later in spring, it was the opposite, and the people along the redwood coast told us "this is the time when the winter rain stops and the spring rain begins."
 
user457812
Austin's kind of the only nice area. Dallas was alright when I visited it, but eh.
 
@sbi oh wow, so you saw rain in California, I didn't see a drop and hardly a cloud, but then I only saw a very small part of a very big place
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I've been to LA only for a few days. I did like Portland, OR, Seattle, and San Francisco, though.
 
user457812
10:06 PM
Didn't see a whole lot of Dallas though - only went there for Quakecon, so spent most of the time in a dark convention center full of people who enjoy phallic rocket launchers as much as I do.
 
@sbi Yea I heard San Fran is worth a visit from a tourist POV, and San Diego is supposed to be nice too.
 
Portland is pretty much perfect as cities go.
 
user457812
I think if there's anywhere I'd absolutely refuse to live, it'd be either Atlanta or anywhere in Hawaii.
 
Next time I go, I'm gonna try see San Fran for sure, and perhaps visit Vegas for lulz
 
Atlanta????
Also, most places in Hawaii are disconnected from civilization, strictly speaking.
 
sbi
10:07 PM
@TonyTheTiger Redwoods can't stop water from leaking through their bark, so they need constant moist atmosphere. They only grow at the western slops of the mountain ranges along the coast, where the wet air coming from the sea rains off its water. It's pretty rainy in the winter in northern California.
 
@nil Yea I heard Hawaii is an interesting place to live, from a friend I know there
 
user457812
My problem with Hawaii is that and the fact that it's hot.
 
user457812
Also, I have bad memories of it - went there for vacation, came back with some disease that lasted months.
 
Hawaii is awesome, I just wouldn't say throw a dart at a map and drop me anywhere.
 
sbi
@Potatoswatter Yeah, I lived there for half a year in the mid-90ies, and liked the city a lot.
 
10:08 PM
@sbi TIL something I did not know about California :)
 
I would want to be anywhere in Hawaii with other people ;v)
 
@nil well that sucks
 
user457812
Hawaii looks like it's just got extremes from when I was there
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger See, the song goes "It never rains in southern California..."
 
user457812
It's either expensive hotels or stuff that looks run-down
 
10:09 PM
@sbi lol, not that I would know that song or anything
 
But the extremes are close enough together than you can pick whatever you want, whenever you want.
Even the bums hitchhike all the time.
 
I want to visit Alaska someday, I have some friends living there
but not sure if I should go in summer or freeze my ass of in the winter :P
 
user457812
I want to visit Montana. It's close, but I never really had time. Maybe next summer..
 
@nil been to Europe at all?
 
user457812
Nope
 
10:11 PM
I think it's worth a visit, even if I say so myself. :P
 
user457812
Might travel around there one day, but the cost of getting there is a problem for now
 
yea, it's expensive to travel across the atlantic
 
Unless you stay in hostels, the cost of being there is likely to be equal…
And take advantage of the Eurailpass while you still qualify.
 
@Potatoswatter guess you've been to Europe then
 
Just a few days lol
 
10:15 PM
oh cool
 
Hectic, sleepless days
 
oh lol
 
Europeans know how to treat tourists :v) … at least the Spaniards and Italians. Definitely something they have on us.
 
@Potatoswatter nice :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Ah, you guys are just too young.
 
10:18 PM
lol
 
sbi
10:32 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Might contain nuts. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
huh?
nuts?
 
Processed in a facility run by nuts.
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger What do you think we are here, if not nuts?
Well, good night, fellow hazels. See you tomorrow!
 
@sbi haha, we're crazy :P
after all, this is the craziest room on SO chat hahah :P
 
10:43 PM
@sbi It does also have "It never rains in California, but girl don't they warn yuh" though. OTOH, I'm pretty sure the "southern" is only omitted there to fit the meter. In any case, I can't imagine anybody considering San Francisco particularly warm or sunny (Samuel Clemens once claimed that the coldest winter he ever experienced was a summer in San Francisco).
 
It never rains in San Francisco? Sometimes it's hard to tell whether it's raining or not.
 
11:19 PM
@sbi That example is full of fail because the programmer didn't ensure his code was safe enough.
 
Blah.
I'm tired.
 
11:37 PM
 
user457812
I wonder how and where from I learned half the stuff about programming I know..
 
user457812
And maybe from who. Should punch whoever taught me half the stuff.
 
@nil may i direct your attention to dragon and c curves. have fun.
 
user457812
Never heard o' either
 
@nil g00gle?
 
user457812
11:42 PM
Already doing that
 
user457812
Haha, c curves make a butt.
 
#include <string>
int main()
{
    std::string s = 'ouch';
    for( int i = 1;  i < 100;  ++i ) { s = s + s; }
}
@nil he he. you might want to also google "L-systems", if not mentioned.
 
Sometimes I feel like not googling stuff, just to have the exquisite pleasure of having someone explain it to me.
 
user457812
It's mentioned under dragon curves on Wikipedia, and of course I have to click everything I see on Wikipedia...
 
11:45 PM
ah
 
@nil Try WARNING: link to TVTropes ahead TVTropes.
 
user457812
I've already exhausted tvtropes, actually
 
user457812
It nearly destroyed my grades last semester.
 
@nil: some things are just baffling, some times
there is infinitely much to learn
e.g. i wonder if you have seen this code before:
#include <iostream>
int main()
{
    using namespace std;
    for( int y = 0;  y < 32;  ++y )
    {
        for( int x = 0;  x < 32;  ++x )
            cout << (x & ~y? ' ' : 'o') << ' ';
        cout << endl;
    }
}
i think it could hypothetically have resqued the BYTE magazine article entitled "The amazing properties of the powers of 2", if the author had but thought to include this
 
user457812
That doesn't look familiar, so probably haven't
 
11:57 PM
There was a spoiler here.
 
what would you guess it produces?
@RMartinhoFernandes spoiler
 
user457812
Well, bit late to guess
 
user457812
I wouldn't have guessed it anywho
 
well you can also generate sierpinsky triangles by using L system
so there's a connection
but i was just free associating. good night
 

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