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11:00 AM
@sbi So, there is no upper limit specified ?
 
sbi
@vivek No. Would that make any sense?
 
@sbi may be to prevent infinite recursion
like they do it in python
 
sbi
@vivek Infinite recursion is a programmer's error. Compilers can emit a diagnostic for it. Or they just blow up.
 
@vivek If it's not specified then implementations are free to put a limit on it (and possibly they have to document that limit, I can't remember).
 
Is ivor hortons vis c++ a good book?
 
sbi
11:15 AM
@LewsTherin Is it on the list?
15 hours ago, by sbi
@vivek If it's not on the list, there is only a very slight chance that it's just not well-known enough despite being good. Rather more likely, though, it's not good enough to make it onto the list.
 
@sbi no but he is
 
sbi
@LewsTherin No, he isn't. Someone suggested a book by him, but nobody felt confident enough to add that book to the canon in the question.
 
yeah..the books on the list are unavailable damn
 
@LewsTherin that's not true .
 
11:23 AM
Those books are available online
 
Oh yeah I know..I hate reading pdfs
prefer to hold the real thing
 
so order a copy,
 
hand me the money :P
 
why should I?
 
just some ten years old Norwegian kitchen appliance rock
 
11:27 AM
@vivek it's easy for you to tell me to order the copy..so please
 
I believe these guys were and are world leaders of this particular musical genre
YouTube comment: "Fucking epic!" -- timmmip 1 week ago
 
@AlfPSteinbach these guyz have some creativity unlike bill
 
sbi
@LewsTherin You mean you couldn't find any illegal copies, I suppose?
I can see that these books are quite expensive for someone with not enough money. But then, as a programmer you are earning your money by having squeezed your intellect and the resulting information sold, hoping it wouldn't be illegally copied, rather than bought. So wouldn't it be totally unfair to illegally copy other people's mind's work?
See the expenses for C++ books as an investment into your education as a C++ programmer.
 
:S I am talking about getting books from the college and as I pointed out I don't like reading pdfs so no illegals for me
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach Reminds me how I once saw "The Vacuum Cleaner Orchestra" live on stage in Portland, OR.
@LewsTherin Ok, but my arguments still apply nonetheless. Those are the best of the best of the C++ book writers, giving lectures on C++. Considering what some universities cost for a semester, without having one of these guys giving the C++ 101, this is actually fairly cheap. :)
 
11:44 AM
If it helps, I concur.
But considering what I *pay* for uni..not having the best books in the library is *baffling*
 
sbi
@LewsTherin That I can understand very well.
 
Yeah, well I gotta get back to class
take care
 
> warning: ISO C99 requires whitespace after the macro name [enabled by default]
Without a filename or line number.
 
@catplusplus Hello cat++, can I have access to the wiki?
 
I've problem understanding that when i use const in the below lambda's parameter list it works , but if i remove const it doesn't works why?
    std::for_each(wFrequency.begin(), wFrequency.end(),
                   [](const std::pair<int,int>& T){
                  std::cout<<"word length "<<T.first<<" have "<<T.second<<" frequency"<<std::endl;}
                 );
here is my whole code : ideone.com/4dZCH
 
11:58 AM
Looks like you've found a quirk of the implementation. No idea if this is allowed or not, could be an interesting question on SO proper.
 
@LucDanton : i am using GCC 4.6.1 , it shows error
 
I suggest you use a value_type.
 
yes value type works
error: no match for call to '(main(int, char**)::<lambda(std::pair<int, int>&)>) (std::pair<const int, int>&)'
 
@MrAnubis a pair<int const, int> can't be bound to reference to non-const pair<int, int>. They're two different types.
 
wow , so true
 
12:03 PM
@MrAnubis Can't reproduce the error with a snapshot of GCC 4.7
 
@AlfPSteinbach yes you're right , map's key is of const T
 
working now , error gone , thanks
[](std::pair<int,int>& T) -> [](std::pair<const int,int>& T) >> works :)
 
old question from SciAm as I recall: hold a wineglass full of wine in your right hand, and not using your left hand or mouth or whatever, and not moving your feet, and not even moving the glass relative to hand, can you rotate the glass 360 degrees?
 
Still, consider a decltype(wFrequency)::value_type (or a convenient typedef). Future-proof and arguably more readable; it's not just any pair type, it's the element type of the map.
@AlfPSteinbach It appears I can. Is twisting at the elbow allowed?
 
12:09 PM
@LucDanton yep
i meant of course without spilling contents
 
Well, there you go then. With some help from the wrist.
@AlfPSteinbach Let me fill my glass so that I can wet myself.
Ah, I see the outward motion is a bit tricky on the balance. Still, I can manage it.
Is that harder with a proper wineglass?
 
no
but i didn't expect anyone to actually try it :-)
i just expected people to say no no impossible
 
user50049
Has anyone used LibXL?
 
user50049
12:24 PM
If I'm reading this correctly, the tryware version won't let you read the first row, at all.
 
user50049
ExcelFormat looks a lot better
 
I've tried Win8 Dev Preview, and that's new Start-replacement thingy is just awful.
Can it be disabled?
 
1:18 PM
Goud morninge
 
Xeo
gouda morning?
 
Almost.
But, hm, gouda would be good right now.
 
 
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2:53 PM
@CatPlusPlus how's win8?
do you have touch screen?
 
Would you guys mind looking at my question?
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Q: Where should you start Coding a Web Browser?

IntermediateHackerSay I want to create a web browser. I do not want to make the Windows Form /High Level Toolkit kind where there is already a WebBrowser Control / Widget which you just add into your Application. Say I want to create one like Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome with its own html / css Parser (though...

 
So you don't want to use a pre-existing rendering engine?
 
3:08 PM
@birryree Um . Sorry , I do. I'll edit my question. Thanks
 
 
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4:44 PM
Hi
how to set width of two outputs in one output coming from two loops?
i mean to use setw()
 
user457812
Your question just hurt my brain
 
hmm ignore it then? :P
 
user457812
As a word of advice that is entirely subjective and personal: please do not start a question with "how to" if it's not the title of something.
 
user457812
Instead, please say something like "How would I set the width of two outputs …?" so it's actually readable
 
ok:)
 
sbi
5:17 PM
@AlfPSteinbach This is the C++ room. We don't say "impossible", we say that would require too much template hackery for a human to stay sane.
 
Or just use boost::impossible.
 
Is Gtkmm really as slow as people say?
 
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Q: Isn't c++ getting old?

pokoko222I was working in c++ for 3 years until this summer, I did games and algorithms in c#. The syntax is much much better. Are there any news on c++ improving or mostly it won't change? I am not saying to change the core stuff, but just the syntax. For example iterators and templates syntax can be im...

lol @ question
 
5:33 PM
> Syntax is mostly irrelevant the human brain is masterful at pattern recognition.
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I'm stealing that.
-- me
 
sbi
@FredOverflow ROTFL!
 
Repeat: Is Gtkmm really as slow as people say?
Has anyone of you ever worked with Gtkmm?
 
Let me reiterate my lack of interest in addressing your question:
 
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Q: Formatting C++ output problem

Mr.AnubisLet me examplify my problem , I've a function like: void printer(int width, int hight){ for(int i=0;i<width;++i) std::cout<<" & "; for(int i=0;i<hight;++i) std::cout<<" ^ "; std::cout<<std::endl; } my problem is function printer should always output of b...

 
while (!stupiduser->get_answer() && !stupiduser->get_flagged())
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     stupiduser->ask_stupid_question();
     stupiduser->check_answer();
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Repeat: Is Gtkmm really as slow as people say?
Did someone flag me yet?
 
5:42 PM
@IntermediateHacker delete stupiduser;
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:P
 
@IntermediateHacker If "people" say Gtkmm is slow, why would we be able to convince you otherwise? Aren't we just "people" as well?
Why don't you just try and measure yourself?
 
@FredOverflow stupiduser->is_feeling_even_stupider(); stupiduser->stupidity++;
Sorry for the trouble. Thanks. Bye
@FredOverflow Your answer was the best. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1501430#1501430
 
5:57 PM
Damn Internet refuses to work.
 
hows everybody doing
 
Who's everybody doing?
 
what?
is that english?
 
Hi
 
> Plenty disagree, but SO is carefully designed so that if 5 people out of thousands think your question should be closed, then it is. It's a fashion thing, really, but it's how SO is supposed to work, it's supposed to be easy to close things. It's fairly easy to reopen too, of course. – Steve Jessop 6 hours ago
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6:12 PM
@TonyTheLion It is. Think about it again :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm still perplexed by that closing -- for instance the question could have been reworded to simply ask 'what is capturing all about', the 'what did the SC want' angle was very much not the point.
And now I'm wondering why I haven't posted that as comment.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Well, I guess he actually meant to ask "Who is everybody making out with?" Oops. Now I've done it again.
 
@sbi you're asking for it, aren't you?
 
sbi
@LucDanton Go ahead and do so. I just gave it the second reopen vote anyway.
@TonyTheLion Lemme put it this way: When I disagree with a policy, I can, sometimes, become somewhat, um, tenacious. That gave me some trouble east of the Iron Curtain once I was old enough. (Fortunately, that curtain came down before they could lock me away. Lucky me.)
 
6:30 PM
@sbi I'm not sure I get the reference to the Iron Curtain :(
 
Again?
What's wrong with youth today? It's recent history!
:)
 
yea. but I'm not educated, remember
 
The concept of the Iron Curtain symbolized the ideological fighting and physical boundary dividing Europe into two separate areas from the end of World War II in 1945 until the end of the Cold War in 1989. On either side of the Iron Curtain, states developed their own international economic and military alliances: * The Council for Mutual Economic Assistance and the military Warsaw Pact on the east side, with the Soviet Union as most important member of each * The European Community and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization on the west and south. Physically, the Iron Curtain took the...
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion I grew up in Eastern Germany. When the wall came down, I was close to being locked away, for being insubordinate.
 
@sbi oh jeez
 
6:35 PM
Should we rename to ?
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sbi
@TonyTheLion I had some "interesting" interviews with the guys from the secret service. That one guy, when talking too me, changed between addressing me formal/informal thrice in 15mins, including everything coming with such changes. He scared the shit out of me. Still, I just couldn't be shut up totally. Maybe I was too young to realize what perils I was in. In hindsight, I still cringe thinking about it.
 
wow that sounds scary
 
6:53 PM
Guys I need help understanding the System.Net.Sockets.NetworkStream.BeginRead function
I googled it but it's mainly pulling up things about the example on MSDN has errors in it -.-
 
What you trying to do?
 
@CatPlusPlus No, it's baked into explorer.exe
@RMartinhoFernandes Continuously receive data
Like send text from one computer to another
 

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