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5:00 PM
@LucDanton Three?
 
@FredOverflow Well, somebody must, anyway.
 
Als
There are Threesomes
 
The book I'm currently reading has threesomes and foursomes all over.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Damn. Fear, surprise and happiness are the three, three emotions 'Fuck' can express. Fear, surprise, happiness and excitement!
 
No, it's not that kind of literature.
 
5:01 PM
Now I get it!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What book? Sounds like a good read
Unless you're reading about tuples
 
@Praetorian A Fire Upon The Deep. It's not threesome sex.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Is the book you are reading PlayBoy or hustler by any chance?
 
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
No, it's not that kind of literature.
 
Als
5:02 PM
that?
 
Do these things actually work?!?
 
Why not?
 
Als
@FredOverflow: Oh yes they do!
Buy one!
 
I can't imagine how...
 
@FredOverflow Dubya fell off of one.
 
5:03 PM
Who's Dubya?
 
George W
 
Als
lulz
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I still don't get it. Unless there are bands of three to four protagonists.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: You didn't knew or you were being rhetoric?
 
@Als Nah -- Vernor Vinge, if memory serves. A book some people get really excited about, and I've never even finished (and at least for me, starting by not finishing a book is exceedingly rare).
 
5:05 PM
@LucDanton It's an alien race that forms "packs" of members linked telepathically. Kind of hive minds of three or four.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I guess I got it.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Mental Sex!
 
Als
or Mind Sex!
 
@FredOverflow Depends on what you mean by "work". They do get people from place to place. They have not transformed the urban landscape, changed how people design cities, etc., as originally predicted by the founder.
 
5:06 PM
You mean imaginary?
 
Als
@CatPlusPlus: I mean they link their minds together, that linkage specification amounts to Mind Sex
 
Brainfuck?
 
And Tony is the one that always thinks about sex.
 
@JerryCoffin How did he imagine that transformation? Everything flat?
 
Als
5:08 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes: Looks like @TonyTheLion is having some real sex right now while you blame him for always talking about sex. :P
 
@Als Oh, he has a lady over?
 
From what I gathered so far, foursomes have sex with other foursomes, not with themselves.
 
what, you're looking at him having sex in the real world?
 
What a perv.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Don't tell me you never watch/ed porn.
 
5:09 PM
porn isn't real
 
Als
@FredOverflow: Real is better.
rather let me reframe
 
porn can be real if you film yourself doing it
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Don't tell me you never watch/ed someone have sex.
 
@Praetorian rofl
 
5:10 PM
@Als Er, no.
 
yes, porn is real if you're one of the actors
 
"Performers".
 
Als
No its still fake.
hey dont have those big thingy's
its a illusion
 
@FredOverflow No -- basically, that instead of designing transportation to fit current cities, people would start to design cities to fit the limitations of his vehicle. IIRC, among other things, he had the notion of lots of villages instead of fewer bigger cities to compensate for its limited range.
 
@JerryCoffin People just kept on using cars instead.
 
5:11 PM
@DeadMG Is Erlang porn?
 
no
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Of course. Personally, I find the notion that people would suddenly find his vehicle so compelling that they'd completely change their lives to fit its limitations hilariously arrogant. Well, when I'm in a good mood it's hilarious. When I'm in a bad mood, more disgusting than funny.
 
I guess you're in a good mood now then :)
 
Als
@JerryCoffin: You are Jerry Springer of C++ Lounge.
 
Who's Jerry Springer?
 
5:16 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Apparently. Though being called Jerry Springer could ruin that pretty quickly.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: I see you are completely oblivious to existence of a continent named Americas and their way of living.
 
I think completely oblivious might be too much of an exaggeration.
I don't live there, though, so that might explain some obliviousness.
 
@Als If you think Jerry Springer portrays how most Americans live, you're the one who's oblivious to reality.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: You don't know Dubya and you don't know Jerry Springer, Any one you know from the US?
 
5:18 PM
@FredOverflow Close enough.
 
Als
@JerryCoffin: I explained in the next quote
 
I've read and watched something about Michelle Bachmann lately.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: You got me :)
@RMartinhoFernandes: Lance Amstrong?
 
I know Batman.
 
5:19 PM
@Als I know of Neil. Are they brothers or something?
 
Als
geez
Lance Edward Armstrong (born Lance Edward Gunderson on September 18, 1971) is an American former professional road racing cyclist who won the Tour de France a record seven consecutive times, after having survived testicular cancer. He is also the founder and chairman of the Lance Armstrong Foundation for cancer research and support. He last rode for (and helped found) UCI ProTeam . In October 1996 he was diagnosed as having testicular cancer, with a tumor that had metastasized to his brain and lungs. His cancer treatments included brain and testicular surgery and extensive chemotherapy...
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yes. (They're "or something").
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks.
 
> road racing cyclist
Yeah, I wonder how you could not know him.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: I didn't mean to offend or ridicule.
Just i was a bit surprised.
 
5:21 PM
@Als You didn't.
 
Als
Maybe Americas is not so popular where you are @
 
America isn't very popular everywhere
 
I'm on the Old World.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Surely. It should be noted that cycling isn't nearly as popular in the US as in most of Europe.
 
they start a bunch of wars, make a bunch of bad loans, and then lie to everyone about how good the loans are, then they imprison people permanently with no trial, etc etc
 
5:23 PM
I think living in California would be nice.
 
@DeadMG Which were you talking about, the US or Europe? Seems to apply about equally to both.
 
Als
@DeadMG: Certainly, Americas is not popular with pups :P
 
@DeadMG PIGS?
(Gosh, I hate that acronym.)
 
In America you can enter a casino wearing shorts and nobody looks funny at you. I like that attitude.
 
@JerryCoffin The US most recently. Got to admit that Europe hasn't exactly been a pinnacle of civilization for most of it's history.
 
5:25 PM
What's dmr?
 
@StackedCrooked In some parts of California, maybe (Napa Valley, for example). OTOH, most of the population centers (Silicon Valley, SF, SD, LA, etc.) have horrible problems with traffic and pollution, and some of them have major crime problems as well.
 
Dennis Ritchie, inventor of C and Unix
 
@DeadMG Oh. Shame.
 
@DeadMG Unix is normally credited to Ken Thompson (though it clearly wasn't a one-man effort, and Dennis did contribute a lot, beyond any doubt).
 
@JerryCoffin Oh, that doesn't sound so good. I seemed like a nice place in the scenes from the Facebook movie.
 
5:28 PM
Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (September 9, 1941 – October 8, 2011) was an American computer scientist notable for developing C and for having influence on other programming languages, as well as operating systems such as Multics and Unix. He received the Turing Award in 1983 and the National Medal of Technology 1998 on April 21, 1999. Ritchie was the head of Lucent Technologies System Software Research Department when he retired in 2007. Background Ritchie was born in Bronxville, New York. His father was Alistair E. Ritchie, a longtime Bell Labs scientist and co-author of The Design of...
 
I'm not a fan of it anyway, so I'm not that bothered :P
 
@StackedCrooked You mean, that movie from Hollywood?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It seemed like a fairly realistic movie.
 
I'm thinking of managing a journal in git. Would a single, monolithic file be the best way to handle it? New files by entry? By date?
 
Howdy
 
5:30 PM
Whatever is comfortable for you.
What else.
 
@StackedCrooked California always looks good in the movies. And I wasn't being entirely fair either -- it definitely does have some very good points. At least IMO, it's not nearly the paradise portrayed in a lot of the movies though.
 
Some guy killed 8 people there today
Maybe that's what you are talking about
 
Didn't know that.
 
That you can die in California? I thought that was obvious.
You know, with people being human and therefore mortal and all that.
 
Florida is Purgatory.
 
5:35 PM
I don't understand why they keep having these crazy ass gun laws
 
Als
Florida has a strange Law:
 
@ManofOneWay To protect them from people with guns.
 
Als
It is considered an offense to shower naked.
 
I heard that's a Constitutional right.
Damn.
 
Constitutional
 
Als
5:38 PM
yup, you can go to a shop and buy guns just like that.
like you can buy condoms.
 
@LucDanton Then it makes perfect sense :)
 
Als
:P
 
that's not completely true
you have to pass various mental health checks
and all firearms must be registered, with serial numbers
 
It varies a lot depending on where you are in the US.
 
5:39 PM
to buy guns in the United States
 
Als
@LucDanton: true.
 
and the ability to actually carry them in public is actually significantly restricted
 
In Texas you can buy anti-tank guns
 
from memory
 
5:40 PM
WTF is that for?
 
you have to have special permits issued by the State
 
Tanks.
 
Als
 
(Don't say "to shoot tanks".)
 
and not all States even issue them
 
5:40 PM
@Als Those are not virgins, those are nuns.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: not synonymous?
Bear my ill knowledge on that, I really don't know
 
I'd rather not put money on it.
 
Maybe they'll be given Extra Virgin
 
@LucDanton Are you from the US?
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: What do you mean? I thought they abstain from those activities? No?
 
5:42 PM
@ManofOneWay No.
@Als They take vows once they become nuns. Or something.
 
@LucDanton Danton, it sounds british?
 
Weren't "disgraced" women sent to convents in the past?
 
@Als huh?
 
Als
Ah okay, so probably @RMartinhoFernandes meant about before taking vows
 
you accused me of having sex???
 
5:43 PM
@ManofOneWay AFAIK that's not his real name. Just like you are not "Man" of the "One Way" family (I hope).
 
Als
@TonyTheLion: If I were you, I would take that as an compliment :P
 
Yeah, don't read too much into the screenname. It's a (somewhat obscure) vulgar pun.
 
@Als yea, but it's weird to be accused of that on the internetz :P
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Or those that disobeyed the family etc.
 
It's only the masters, @JerryCoffin and Johannes who have their own names
 
Als
5:44 PM
@TonyTheLion: Geez, You just lost the opurtunity of boasting how good it was and pissing us off...
 
@ManofOneWay I also use my real name as a screen name. Well, except for the "R" part.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Apparently, not all humans are mortal:
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Nice! Soon you will also be a master
 
I would never use my serial number as a screen name though.
 
5:47 PM
Even Immortals can be killed. You just chop their head off.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes: Afraid someone might hack in to you, if you give away your serial no, are you?
 
Even Guybrush Threepwood can die.
 
who the fuck is dmr
 
Regardless of whether you think people should be able to get guns easily, it appears to me that making them illegal would be an utterly futile gesture. Hundreds of tons of illegal drugs are imported into the US annually, despite having spent billions of dollars on attempting to stop it. A gun has a longer life, and no unique smell for drug dogs (for one example) to detect. I see no realistic chance that laws against guns would make them substantially more difficult to obtain.
 
BTW commented
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A: clang++ error message when using C++0x: call to deleted constructor of

Howard HinnantThis looks like a clang bug to me. I'm working with a later clang version which does not have this behavior. You might try giving ilpConstraint an explicit copy constructor as a temporary workaround.

ohh it's him
 
5:50 PM
22 mins ago, by vivek
Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (September 9, 1941 – October 8, 2011) was an American computer scientist notable for developing C and for having influence on other programming languages, as well as operating systems such as Multics and Unix. He received the Turing Award in 1983 and the National Medal of Technology 1998 on April 21, 1999. Ritchie was the head of Lucent Technologies System Software Research Department when he retired in 2007. Background Ritchie was born in Bronxville, New York. His father was Alistair E. Ritchie, a longtime Bell Labs scientist and co-author of The Design of...
 
why wasn't it in the news?
 
ok
 
If anything, quite the opposite: when I was in high school, I'd say marijuana was much easier to obtain than alcohol, specifically because it was illegal.
 
I wrote a class that can convert UTF16 to UTF8 and UTF32
 
the apple guy was much more news than DMR
 
5:51 PM
Does it make sense if I think that shared ownership (e.g. shared_ptr) makes object lifetime less well-defined. I prefer to define object lifetime as a scope.
 
I am the WinRARâ„¢
 
@JohannesSchaublitb it was
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, it does.
 
why did he die so young
 
5:52 PM
@JerryCoffin Why would illegal substances be easier to obtain?
 
70 isn't that young
 
How's Knuth doing?
 
@JerryCoffin How does it work for those countries that put a lot of restrictions on gun ownership then? Not that I'm advocating that it would be easy for the US to switch, but I find the argument 'illegal stuff is easy to obtain' somewhat disingenuous when you can just look at present examples.
 
how did he die?
 
5:54 PM
FWIW Switzerland has a high rate of gun ownership and borders several countries which have those restrictions.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh, I really need to get the special edition someday.
 
there's a big difference between marijuana and guns
 
did he segfault?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb illness
 
the difference being, at least, here, it's not a big deal to have marijuana
 
but if you get caught with a gun, it's years in jail at minimum
 
@FredOverflow Totally worth the money.
 
Als
@JohannesSchaublitb: His passing away was Defined Behavior not an UB.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I must say that I don't find the voices too fitting/exciting... but what the hell, I'll buy it anyway.
 
5:55 PM
If you prefer the old style, there's a key to switch.
 
free(dennis);
 
@Maxpm The legitimate sources (i.e., normal liquor stores) kept there from being enough market to support full-fledged illegal distribution. Essentially the only way to get alcohol was hope somebody's older brother/cousin/whatever would go to a store for you. Illegal drugs, OTOH, supports a network of distributors, dealers, etc., none of whom has any interest in enforcing any age limits or anything else.
 
@FredOverflow free(dennis);.
C.
 
oh right :)
 
man
I'm going to have to stop writing code and go back to my hotel
:(
 
5:57 PM
To morn in silence, sitting in the bathtub?
 
dennis = dennis--;
 
Als
@DeadMG: Hotel?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb UB?
 
no
apart from the fact I don't have a bathtub
 
5:58 PM
dennis--; ?
 
but because they're locking up the labs
 
@FredOverflow yep
 
@Als If you were to design the human being in a programming language. Then would death be a viable reason to throw exceptions? Death is not really exceptional, but it would be burdensome to clutter your code with if (dead) {...} for all use cases.
 
death is the destructor
delete dennis;
 
Als
5:58 PM
true
 
@StackedCrooked I would let operations on the dead individual dead lock
 
@DeadMG Na, just let him fall out of scope.
 
Als
The one who was never born can never die
so yes death is a destructor
 
humans follow dynamic life-time, not scope-based
 
Als
Humans != RAII
 
5:59 PM
Maybe death should be the only exception type that is allowed to escape out of the main function.
 
anyway
I have to go
I'll be back
 
@DeadMG It's multiprocessed. Cells are self-contained living entities.
 

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