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9:00 PM
I shall ignore any corrections to that statement
 
What'd be funny is C getting lambdas before Java
 
@Morwenn First result was NSFW-ish.
 
@CatPlusPlus Function pointers?
 
Marge: "Have you noticed a change in Bart?"

Homer: "New glasses?"

Marge: "No, I think something might be troubling him."

Homer: "Probably misses his old glasses."
lol
 
9:01 PM
@StackedCrooked lol
 
@ShotgunNinja that is not lambdas
 
@EtiennedeMartel All results but one were. And I only sorted by popularity.
 
@thecoshman I know that. I'm just saying that C is already fairly close, or at least moreso than Java and its garbage dependency on interface implementation...
 
oh Cat's drunk, let the fun begin!!
 
@ShotgunNinja true
 
9:03 PM
Fuck C and Java, and fuck C++ harder
 
I wish I had time to do shit
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, spank that bitch!
 
@TonyTheLion The difference is that C++ likes it that way.
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@Rapptz By the time Java gets them, they'll have grown up to sheepdas.
 
@TonyTheLion C++ likes that way too much.
 
9:03 PM
Maybe I should try reviving Goblin Camp or something
 
@DeadMG oh I like that :)
 
@DeadMG Shit, you beat me to it.
 
Or finish that damn build system thing
 
@CatPlusPlus let dead things lie
 
@CatPlusPlus why don't you have time?
too busy getting drunk?
 
9:04 PM
Next week, I have a deadline every day
 
@CatPlusPlus oh, working on your own build system?
 
For a different project each time
 
@CatPlusPlus I have a deadline tomo, and I have no chance of making it. Please kill me
 
@TonyTheLion Nah, I don't feel like a life sentence.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The app can still be downloaded here.
 
9:05 PM
Everything stops working when I have a deadline
 
@CatPlusPlus clean up in isle 10
 
it's like this stuff knows :/
@CatPlusPlus dat emoticon
 
It knows
And it hates you
 
gifs
 
9:06 PM
It wants you to be miserable
 
GC sets in
@CatPlusPlus I'm fucking miserable, it succeeded
 
@DeadMG you mean jifs, right? :p
 
I'm so miserable its funny
 
@jalf pronunciation != spelling :P
 
I lost ability to give a fuck about what happens
 
9:07 PM
@jalf lol
 
I've been at this insane coding spree for 2 weeks now
 
@CatPlusPlus Yea I have noticed.
 
@TonyTheLion Really? Does that mean it's OK for me to laugh at you?
 
And it's still not over
It's just like "meh whatever"
 
@DeadMG you can laugh at me, but I'll laugh at you harder because you don't have a job.
 
9:07 PM
@TonyTheLion hint: it's only a job
 
Failing uni? Meh whatever
 
@TonyTheLion Fair enough.
 
At least I have a job either way
 
@DeadMG Sorry, that was harsh, but ICNR
@CatPlusPlus true
 
no, fair enough
all our lives suck in some ways
 
9:08 PM
@thecoshman yea but if I got fired that wouldn't help me finding a new one
 
Life hates you too
 
not that getting fired is on anyone's mind, but still.
 
I actually been thinking
 
It's designed to make you miserable
 
ITT Cat's life advise
 
9:09 PM
@TonyTheLion you didn't have that job, you where trying things on your own, here is a reference from before that...
 
I spent like, all of a week ago very sick
 
@TonyTheLion I feel like that. I have the majority of a technical specification to write for the morning, and I've really left it until the last minute. Feeling like a student again
 
am I even gonna find employment like that?
 
I procrastinate a lot too.
 
This week on Let's Get Philosophical
 
9:09 PM
@TonyTheLion ITT it's spelt "advice"
 
@CatPlusPlus Agreed.
 
@DeadMG you need to sort that sick thing out, employers won't like to hear you get sick so often.
 
well, this is it
 
I mean, I'm following my doc's advice and losing some weight
 
9:10 PM
@TonyTheLion oooor, get sick enough that he can claim enough benefits to live of it :P
 
puppy puppy, I wish there was something I could do to help you
@thecoshman meh, no
 
@thecoshman That never happens
You only get progressively more fucked
 
@TonyTheLion chase him with your car to make him run?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I failed at spelling. Blargh
 
@thecoshman Well, my doctor advised me to take time and lose weight
 
9:11 PM
@thecoshman ahahahaha
 
@TonyTheLion "failt"
 
which does kinda interfere with "find employment"
 
@CatPlusPlus welcome to the UK where the people who do no work ever can live like kinds
 
@DeadMG follow his advice, for the love of all that is your future.
 
I seriously doubt it
 
9:11 PM
what's going on?
 
@DeadMG o_0 did you really need a doctor to tell you 'being fat is unhealthy'
 
Does anyone know if there's a locale string (like 'en-US') for English TTY (teletype machines/hard of hearing)
 
@MooingDuck Language codes are standardised by ISO
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit puppies inability to find a job and his being sick quite often
 
@MooingDuck Doesn't sound like that property is in the remit of locales?
@TonyTheLion thanks
 
9:12 PM
@thecoshman There's a big difference between "Being fat is unhealthy" and "Being fat is causing crippling stomach problems and you must lose a lot of weight before it'll even think about going away"
lots of people are fat but don't have stomach problems like mine
 
So they diagnosed what it is after all?
 
gallstones
 
@CatPlusPlus "you have a slight case of fat fuck"
 
does someone know how I can make the text bigger in the chat without zooming the whole browser window?
 
@DeadMG ouch, painful
 
9:13 PM
UserCSS
 
@thecoshman It's not that strongly associated with being overweight, AFAIK.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't know what you just said
 
@thecoshman it isn't, necessarily. Lots of fat people are perfectly healthy. Being fat and not getting enough exercise (and potentially other factors as well) is unhealthy
 
Note to self: don't entice people insulting you
 
@jalf depends if you consider being able to walk up stairs without losing your breath a sign of being health :P
 
9:15 PM
@TonyTheLion Always entice people insulting you
They get even madder
 
@MooingDuck okay
 
@thecoshman On the scale of things, I'm really not that fat.
 
@DeadMG nah, I'm just messing :P
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@CatPlusPlus If you wonder why people dislike you, that might be a good place to start.
 
9:15 PM
@klyonrad Move your chair closer to the screen
 
but anyway
 
@DeadMG oh, stair lift already XD
 
@thecoshman no, it depends on not making dumb-ass assumptions based on the way people look
 
@EtiennedeMartel You're a fucking bully and you need to stop.
 
@LucDanton Woa, woa, woa.
 
9:16 PM
@LucDanton Except that he's not, and he doesn't.
@LucDanton So stop being a dick.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit seems like the typical IT-person attitude "increasing font size is for loosers" (no offense)
 
it would be a lot easier to focus on exercise and whatnot if I wasn't permanently worrying about money, jobs, etc
 
@LucDanton technically he is not, he is a dick to everyone
 
so I have been thinking about asking doctor if I qualify for any kind of illness benefit
 
9:17 PM
@thecoshman Who is?
 
@DeadMG well, you still live at home right?
 
@thecoshman In what way does that make someone not a bully?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Joke's on you
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh sorry, thought that was at the cat
 
@thecoshman Not for free, man. I pay my parents rent. Not as much as I would if I lived privately, but I can't freeload off them.
 
9:17 PM
@thecoshman for the record, I know a girl who's something like 135 kg... and who can do a 5k run. You can be fit without being skinny. :)
 
@LucDanton I think it was already established that I was a metadick.
 
@jalf I have no idea what being 135kg means, but I take it 'fat'
 
@thecoshman yes, quite
 
I'm a dick to people who are dick. I'm the physical manifestation of karma.
 
300lbs if you prefer that
 
9:18 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It doesn't matter whether it's established or not. I'm sick of it.
 
@jalf I'm not american! how dare you
 
@jalf who on earth would prefer that?
 
@thecoshman quite
 
@klyonrad crazies
there are a lot of those around
anyway, I call sleepytime!
 
@LucDanton I would apologize, but that would be weird, because the one my insult was directed at wasn't the one who was offended.
 
9:19 PM
@klyonrad yanks
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh you
 
@jalf actually 297.624 pounds ;)
 
@klyonrad ¬_¬ because those 3 pounds really matter
 
@LucDanton to be perfectly honest @CatPlusPlus hasn't exactly been helping his case, so I must say @EtiennedeMartel wasn't wrong in what he said. Whether you agree with it or not.
 
Also
 
9:20 PM
hint: that's like a massive shit
 
@thecoshman 2.376 pounds. Obviously that difference matters at least as much! :-)
 
an elephant shit
 
Robbing the robbers doesn't make the world a better place. It makes for more robberires.
 
Ell
^
 
If you care about :words: on Internet you need to reevaluate your life priorities or something
 
9:21 PM
I wish I'd never discovered loadingreadyrun. Watching all their videos is gonna take foreeeeeveeeeeerr.....
 
(Also second shot)
 
Ell
But why do you say words in the first place? :3
 
@JerryCoffin tut tut 2 pounds and like 4 ounces (I think that's close enough)
 
because how else do you get your ideas across?
 
@Ell because words are awesome
 
9:21 PM
I don't believe in sidestepping around issues
 
@LucDanton "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
 
Cat believes in upfront assholeism.
 
^ see how old that shit is? (Well, not the Gandhi quote. The 'eye for and eye' outdated thing.)
 
@CatPlusPlus what if I told you, some people connect with each other through words on the internet
 
I believe in not being polite around assholes.
 
9:22 PM
@thecoshman he wouldn't believe you.
 
And not just looking the other way.
 
@TonyTheLion wouldn't expect him to
 
Then you leave me no choice.
 
haha
@LucDanton uh oh
 
Feel free to call me out on any and all bullshit, but I'm not ever going to not be straight-up honest and blunt
 
Ell
9:23 PM
You can be honest without being blunt
 
@CatPlusPlus Your honesty is not the problem. The problem is how you're being honest.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I believe in not being around assholes
 
You can be honest without insulting someone.
 
But that's not fun
:v
 
@Ell there is nothing wrong with being blunt
 
9:24 PM
lol
 
@TonyTheLion I feel a plonk incoming.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes I felt that plonk too
 
Ell
@thecoshman yes there is on a lot of occasions. Don't I recall you complaining about cat being bluntly honest to you about kyrostat just yesterday? You know what it's like
 
Which is interesting, considering I never, ever plonked anyone.
 
Yeah let's talk about Kyrostat
 
9:25 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh, I didn't see that coming.
 
Please tell me how I should phrase the things I've said differently
 
@TonyTheLion I still haven't plonked anyone.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You make me feel bad. :/ (has 20+ people on plonk list)
 
@Ell no, I was saying I didn't appreciate people (not just cat) proclaiming it was dead despite my self still working on it.
 
See? It's about tolerance.
 
9:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus all-caps! That makes everything better
 
Which makes my fits of rage even more jarring.
 
You were working on something, but that wasn't the original project
You can talk words all day, but that's the facts
 
words convey an idea
 
Project was dead by then
 
Ell
@thecoshman ^cat being bluntly honest. Do you like it?
That sounds weird o.O
 
9:27 PM
It died around Dom leaving
Sorry, but don't delude yourself
Or whatever the word
(3rd shot)
(Okay 4th)
 
@ScottW it was a game project we started on, didn't get far :P
what point?
 
lol
@ScottW <3
 
to be fair though, I still think we did sort out some good game design ideas... we just failed terribly at breaking the ground
 
@thecoshman We had no team structure.
No plan, no roadmap.
 
the plans were too vague
the goals weren't clearly defined
 
9:31 PM
too much cross-platformity
meeting every requirement we could imagine
 
@CatPlusPlus of what?
 
vodka I suppose
 
@TonyTheLion A man's drink.
 
Ell
I want to read the design doc now :3
 
@EtiennedeMartel for you it would be beer
also for me
 
9:32 PM
@TonyTheLion that's going to be bad soon then...
 
because last weekend in Belgium, I got so drunk, I didn't know I could drink that much beer in a day
 
I think we had too much team structure, people seemed to feel they could work on other things. road map and plan wise, probably could have done with an ordered list, but at the same time, there was a lot of stuff that could be worked on that just wasn't, having a list wouldn't have changed people not working on anything. Cross platform wise, it was a simple case of 'we have people from all three platforms, we need to allow all of them to run this'
 
I want to get drunk too.
 
@Jeffrey Vodka
 
hmm.. maybe booze will help sooth my throat...
 
9:34 PM
@thecoshman Nah
 
it's worth a shot
 
@thecoshman "we need to support 3 platforms" => "zero platforms will actually be supported"
 
We had no structure
Nobody to make executive decision where needed
 
Ell
Well you have to support the platforms of the developers
 
But it's not like this was waste
 
9:35 PM
@Ell No you don't.
For example, you can say "if you're not willing to build and run and test on this platform, go make a different game"
 
I for one learned few things about managing projects
 
Ell
I guess
 
If we want to start a new project, we can, but we need to be more organized, and seeing I'm king, I will rule by iron fist :P
 
what I vote is
 
KISS doesn't just apply when designing a class. It also applies to entire projects
 
9:36 PM
@CatPlusPlus well, we sort of did have people to do it, but too many people wanted things a certain way.
 
KISS my ass
 
@CatPlusPlus don't :P
 
@ScottW <3 <3
 
if we revive, start from my old codebase, which sucks and Windows-only-right-now, but at least has some basics and actually executes, and focus Windows, which is 90%+ of game consumer base.
 
@jalf we have devs from three platforms, we want to support them playing it, seems a damn simple requirement to me.
 
9:36 PM
It's probably not that hard to port
 
start simple
 
I'd focus on Windows and Linux as primaries
 
get something working and then you can go from there
 
OSX has the problem of not being able to builds without OSX machine
 
@CatPlusPlus If it works on Linux, and it's abstracted enough to also work on Windows, porting it on OS X is easy as fuck.
 
9:37 PM
So you can't just give binary for people to test
 
@CatPlusPlus what political current do you embrace, if any?
 
@thecoshman It doesn't matter how simple the requirement is. It makes the project a non-starter
 
@Jeffrey I'm gonna guess Notgivingashitism.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are some idiosyncrasies (is that the word? dunno)
 
"must have a cold fusion reactor" is a simple requirement too
 
9:38 PM
@Jeffrey I don't care much for politics
 
lol
 
@CatPlusPlus Mostly for windowing and input.
 
Or "applicant must have 40 years of experience with C#"
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@jalf so does excising half your team because you do not allow them to run the project
 
@EtiennedeMartel apparently you got it right
 
9:38 PM
It is not about which requirements are simple, it is about which ones will allow you to actually progress on the project.
 
user142019
Hi sweeties.
 
user142019
and cat.
 
@thecoshman No, because then at least you've got half the team left, and nothing preventing them from working
 
@CatPlusPlus what do you care about other than living?
 
@Jeffrey Food.
 
9:39 PM
@Jeffrey I wouldn't even go as far to say he cares about that :P
 
I'm drunk don't make fun of me
 
Adding a platform affects the entire team, not just the new guy who's going to be maintaining that platform's code
 
I'm pretty sure he cares about living... very much...
 
@Jeffrey living is pretty rad
 
@jalf oh, well let's just just say we will make something that does nothing, very easy to do.
 
9:41 PM
@jalf rad?
 
@CatPlusPlus your reported state of intoxication is of no concern
 
Kyrostat has a chance tbh
 
@thecoshman sure, go for it
 
@Jeffrey he cares about vodka
 
But
Make puppy the BDFL because he's got the vision
 
9:41 PM
@Jeffrey What? That word doesn't get used as often as it should be
 
I'll write Hello World and you can all contribute
 
@CatPlusPlus BDFL?
 
@CatPlusPlus Big Deal Fucking Leader?
 
And don't make decisions by voting
 
Benevolent Dictator For Life
 
9:41 PM
Yeah that
 
used to describe Guido van Rossum w.r.t. Python
 
user142019
Today I changed the state of a certain spider from alive to dead.
 
oh right
 
@rightfold did you get a hair on your chest?
 
9:42 PM
lol
 
Also decide immediately on crappy details that are mostly irrelevant to game proper
 
@rightfold aww...poor spider ;-(
 
Then the project can start
 
user142019
@thecoshman No, but I got +1 Changing State.
 
so let's just recap here- who is actually interested in attempting to revive Kyrostat?
 
user142019
9:43 PM
Next time I'm going to change the spider's state using a lens.
 
What is kyrostat?
 
to be honest, I'm not
 
user142019
@DeadMG You!
 
user142019
I would if I had any knowledge of audio or 3D graphics at all. :lol:
 
eh, there's other stuff
 
user142019
9:44 PM
I have written an AI once for enemies in a platform game.
 
@rightfold there is still gameplay logic you know
netowrking
 
networking, windowing, scripting logic, AI
 
@rightfold a game is much more than graphics programming
 
@jalf you wouldn't think looking at games these days :P
so erm yeah... where do the kids get there graphics cards from these days?
 
Ok my $500 therapy session is over, @CatPlusPlus, would you like to pay with cash or card?
 
9:45 PM
@thecoshman what? first you try like hell to revive and now you have got some of us convinced you're withdrawing again?
 
@thecoshman Usually an e-tailer like scan.
 
@Jeffrey If you want to send me money you can wire through PayPal to piotrlegnica@piotrl.pl
 
@TonyTheLion I tried to keep it going, then decided that if I want to work on abstraction stuff, may as well drop the game crap and just work on a library for it.
 
If you want money from me then fuck you no contract
 
lmao
 
Ell
9:47 PM
@thecoshman depends where in the world you are
scan or amazon
 
@Ell Ireland
¬_¬ and no I am not Irish
 
user142019
I'm a little too busy to work on Kyrostat anyway.
 
user142019
I need to write two servers and one and a quarter Android apps.
 
user142019
And I need to design a fridge door that can be closed by an electrical signal.
 
9:50 PM
@rightfold Good luck with that.
 
what is the GeForce 500 series like?
 
I have a distributed LU decomposition to write
 
user142019
@thecoshman Good enough for Vim and Terminator.
 
@thecoshman Cheap and powerful.
 
Font editor webapp to finish
Image comparison
And database project
And stuff
 
user142019
9:51 PM
@StackedCrooked First time I've seen foo used where it's actually suitable for real code.
 
Everything's terrible but I have pizza and I'm drunk so whatever
 
@DeadMG £100 cheap and powerful?
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Are the pizza and beverage also terrible?
 
user142019
@thecoshman I wipe my ass with £100.
 
Ell
9:52 PM
@thecoshman you just want one with opengl 4.1 don't you?
 
@rightfold oh well excuse me for not being a spoilt brat
@Ell ideally, a step up from my current one wouldn't hurt
 
Ell
Well it will probably be a step up anyway
 
@rightfold he did say everything
 
user142019
inb4 cat dies from overdose alcohol pizza.
 
And good riddance
 
9:54 PM
pizza and booze are terrible, but less terrible then most things
 
Ell
How about a gt 640?
 
@thecoshman To be honest, the only way to find out for sure is to pick the game you want to play on it, and check the benchmarks.
 
@Ell o_0 how about it?
 
Ell
@thecoshman scan.co.uk/products/… only £60
:P
 
9:55 PM
@StackedCrooked How dare you call that AT&T syntax abomination "asm"?
 
Ell
opengl 4.2
 
@ScottW Hope you're having a good day?
 
@JerryCoffin I can't help it. I'm young and unexperienced.
 
@Ell what if you through a bit more money at it?
 
Ell
How much are you looking to spend?
 
user142019
9:57 PM
Two litres of cum.
 
Ell
two litres? :O
 
around the £100 mark would be ok, but I do need to sort out ram too, so the cheaper the better
 
Btw, the my old checksum algorithm was a bit of a bottleneck. This asm code turns out to be 6.5x faster.
 
oh gawd
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked Don't worry. I'm younger and unexperienceder.
 
9:58 PM
a sperm whale wouldn't even produce that
 
@rightfold Silence, underling!
 
user142019
You don't have to produce it all at once.
 
@rightfold well, I can try... might take a while
 
user142019
Just keep it in a jar.
 
fap in a jar
hmmm
 
Xeo
9:58 PM
@StackedCrooked What
 
its like Reddit's cum box
who remembers that thread?
 
put coins in the jar
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion $ export CLASSPATH=cum.jar
 
@rightfold dat pun
 
@Xeo It's wasn't a real bottleneck, but it took over 30% of time.
 
Xeo
9:59 PM
The "what" was more directed at the amount of speed-up
 

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