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1:18 AM
anyone bored around?
 
@Shimmy Yup, that would be me
 
@DarrelMiller definitely
@YiJiang haha seems you never escape
what time is it @ your place
here 03:20 am
 
@Shimmy 9.20am in the morning from GMT+8
Looks like I'm more sane than you ;)
 
not necessarily
cuz where were you the whole night then
did you waste it on sleeping???]
don't tell me that
anyway, i just wanted to say hello and make sure everything is alright...
looks like i can go back to business as this club is dried out anyway
 
1:46 AM
How can anyone be bored these days? So many SO questions to answer, so many OSS projects to contribute to, so many new technologies to learn...
 
Is there any way to search the chats?
 
There is a search box in the top right, have you tried that?
 
the box in the upper right that says search (:
also you can bring up the transcript in the room menu and search from there
 
@rchern left?
 
left what? >_>
 
1:50 AM
As you can tell by her smilies, @rchern lives in a world where directions are reversed.
 
hahaha
 
;)
 
shush you ):
 
ahhhhh, my eyes did deceive me
 
slinks back to the seedy underbelly of the JavaScript code
 
1:52 AM
@TimStone, i asked in the js room but nobody has responded yet
 
I saw, where's @NickCraver when you need him!
 
 
2 hours later…
3:35 AM
anyone alive?
 
yep.
 
I just posted a WPF question, please help me out: stackoverflow.com/questions/3956436
 
3:53 AM
0
Q: DataGrid is not obedient to SelectedIndex property set

ShimmyI need to make the DataGrid, so if I am in edit mode, and the current row is not valid, the user should not be able to select a different row. In fact, I think that the DataGrid is supposed to avoid selection of another row once the CollectionChangingEventArgs of the CollectionView is flagged fo...

 
pasting that in 1 place would probably be enough...
 
it's Shimmy's question
I just wrote it again so it'd show up in the chat
 
i meant pasting it in here and in the other general room (:
 
the chat only expands if the link isn't after some other text
he asked in both rooms
after 3 nights, finished my accounting!! :)
i now, for the first time in several months, have some vague idea about how much money i've made this year
 
heh
 
4:00 AM
Ello @AidenBell, the dictator of the SO Tavern
 
@DanGrossman How ju do it
 
@Shimmy just paste the link without any other text
 
and check out the FAQ (:
 
you should have paste a link to the FAQ :P
 
4:02 AM
look in the lower right >_>
 
hmm, doesn't expand to anything useful :(
 
@DanGrossman @rchern c'mon i was kidn
i was just talking about pasting linx
 
i know?
 
oops, reading the faq i just realized a cool feature, changing the SO question to chat.stackoverflow.com/question_address
 
Hello @rchern @YiJiang - How those user scripts going?
I secretly wanted to help out but have too much work-work to do
 
4:11 AM
hehe
 
here you go!
That's pretty cool
maybe in 10 years SO will go IM
no ppl to chat
 
I'm surprised there aren't more people in these rooms given the traffic to the SO sites
must mostly be passers-by looking for answers
 
4:29 AM
i think most people just don't know about it
 
@rchern I was shocked how quick it died down too
Meta was lively for a good few days (but was a private beta)
 
it is the weekend
 
@AidenBell Yeah, but it's still the weekend
 
traffic drops considerably
 
(Well not here, but it is in the states)
 
4:43 AM
I thought it was Monday for most of the day
I'm bad at keeping track of what day it is
 
@DanGrossman It's Monday in Britain (5.44am), so most of Europe, Asia and Africa should be up
 
4:58 AM
wait a second, what are you all doing here? did @rchern reveal the password for chat.stackoverflow.com
 
it wasn't me!
i swear!
i shall take it with me to the grave!
 
why did we trust @rchern ? WHY OH GOD WHY
8
 
seriously (;
 
@JeffAtwood Jeff just fell through a time warp and found himself looking at a open SO chatroom
The horror!
 
I'm sorry, was someone with less than three characters in their first name talking? I thought I heard a buzzing sound.
Probably my imagination.
 
5:01 AM
hahaha
 
Hahah
 
Standard comeback response
 
but seriously, I am going to edit the chat /faq again -- any suggestions? chat.stackoverflow.com/faq
 
@JeffAtwood You might need to hotkey that sucker.
 
5:02 AM
@JeffAtwood The B&W images doesn't show the fading gravartar you're talking about very well
 
@JeffAtwood, a section on oneboxing? that seems to be what gets asked about the most.
 
@rchern I second this.
 
that is covered already under How do I format my messages?
> Some links will be automatically inlined if posted on a single line by themselves, such as: ..
 
looks
 
@JeffAtwood if posted on a single line by themselves needs to be highlighted more strongly
 
5:03 AM
may i suggest something like wrapping if posted on a single line by themselves in <h3> ?
 
why are our users so retarded, I mean, awesome?
 
oh, anchors!
 
@JeffAtwood Maybe a visual example to go along with that?
 
I guess, what do you guys think would be best as a visual example
wikipedia?
 
hmm
 
5:04 AM
@JeffAtwood Tweeter oneboxes are more complex and are slightly smaller
I don't think I've ever seem Amazon product oneboxes
 
I'd probably say a SE question or twitter
 
Are they used in the *-rec rooms?
 
yeah probably our own stuff first, good call
 
I think the question / user oneboxes come out the most visually attractive anyway.
I oneboxed a blog post the other day...wall of text, heh.
 
@JeffAtwood, also, WA questions onebox much nicer than questions from any other site...
 
5:08 AM
Let's see...
60
Q: How do I delete my Facebook account?

Ivo FlipseI don't trust Facebook's new privacy settings and have decided to delete my account, but I can't find the kill switch. Does anyone know how I can delete my Facebook account?

642
Q: Flash CS4 refuses to let go

EnderI have a flash project; it has many source files. I have a fairly heavily-used class, call it Jenine. I recently (and, perhaps, callously) relocated Jenine from one namespace to another. I thought we were ready - I thought it was time. The new Jenine was better in every way - she had lost some co...

@rchern Hmmm... bias much ;)
 
see, that first one looks much better!
 
@rchern Only because the small SO icon is so badly interpolated!
 
@TimStone I hate the alignment of the badges
 
Hm, there should be more padding above the tags, meh.
Oh yeah, that's off too.
Boo.
 
5:12 AM
48
Q: Virtualization. For your girlfriend.

meleeOr boyfriend. It's all good. Here's a brief description of the issue at hand: Said girlfriend knows how to download torrents (of Linux ISOs) (...) despite multiple warnings from Boyfriend regarding random fun things like spamalware Girlfriend disregards advice "OMG what are these naked ladies...

 
no no, that just doesn't look good at all.
 
7
Q: How to deconstruct a pumpkin

DorreneIn a fit of pumpkin-bread-craving I bought a pumpkin (labelled "for cooking" instead of "show"), only to realize I have no idea what to do with it. I already plan on scraping the seeds out and roasting them, but how can I convert the vegetable in front of me into something like canned pumpkin for...

 
@JeffAtwood The cooking hat interpolation is even worse than the SO logo
 
2
Q: If I have a breaking news and assume that i am the first person to know. How can I get top place in google search?

jeetIf I have a breaking news and assume that i am the first person to know. How can I get top place in google search? Please assume that I do not have a domain yet. Please give me some tips. Thanks. Hope you'all will appreciate my question.

0
Q: What are the reasons for and against wearing a bicycle helmet?

Jay BazuziThis is a tricky question to ask correctly. One attempt has already been closed as subjective and argumentative. There is no 1 correct answer, for sure. However, there are interesting reasons that I believe are worth recording here. Please reply with one reason per post. Ideally include documen...

 
the first answer on the breaking news question basically says post it on SO haha
bicycle helmet question is boring ):
 
5:20 AM
ok so other than beefing up the onebox section of /faq what else
 
anchors to enable linking to specific sections
 
what do you mean
 
Is there a jQuery plugin that jumps out of the screen and forces people to read the whole thing?
 
@YiJiang if you have specific suggestions for improving the oneboxing, leave 'em in ..

Chat feedback

Problems with chat? Let us know...
 
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/faq#formatting to link someone directly to How do I format my messages for example
 
5:22 AM
oh right
I got crapped on for implementing that on meta. NOT THAT IM BITTER OR ANYTHING
 
?
 
3
A: FAQ deep-linking

Jeff AtwoodOK, I added lots and lots of anchors to the faq: <a name="ask"> <a name="benice"> <a name="behonest"> <a name="login"> <a name="howtoask"> <a name="reputation"> <a name="reputation-gain"> <a name="reputation-abilities"> <a name="bounty"> <...

 
@JeffAtwood Sure thing
 
Wow, heh.
 
You guys have no idea how hard it is to be so FAMOUS AND IMPORTANT! no idea! (sobs on rchern's shoulder)
but seriously, I like it when people tell me I'm full of shit. Because, well ... I am.
 
5:25 AM
there, there. 'tis the price we must pay.
 
@JeffAtwood Well, id is the correct way to do this
 
meh, notice our doctype on all our sites (not chat though)
 
@JeffAtwood You're full of shit.
 
I wrote valid HTML 4.01 code for my HTML 4.01 website, THEREFORE I AM A MONSTER
 
what's going on in here then :P
 
5:26 AM
dammit @pablasso I was just typing that ):
 
yeah yeah, I like it best when it's followed by some sound reasoning or data points explaining why :)
 
Hey @JeffAtwood - Those t-shirts en route? ;)
heh
 
@AidenBell's bitterness exceeds all other biternesses. ;)
 
yes, the unicorn million dollar bills arrived already.. so if they haven't gone out yet (they might have) then they will definitely go out this week
 
@JeffAtwood, is because you don't use correct smileys like me considered sound reasoning?
 
5:28 AM
Whooop
 
bizarro-world smileys
 
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 14 hours ago, by Yi Jiang
rsmiles = {
	'\\)': '\\(',
	'\\(': '\\)',
	'o': 'o',
	'O': 'O',
	'd': 'p',
}

reyes = [';', ':'];

rnose = ['', '-'];

$(".signature:contains('rchern') ~ .messages .message .content").each(function(){
	var $this = $(this);
	for(var i in rsmiles){
		for(var l = 0; l < reyes.length; l++){
			for(var j = 0; j < rnose.length; j++){
				var permute = i + rnose[j] + reyes[l],
					replacement = reyes[l] + rnose[j] + rsmiles[i];

				$this.html($this.html().replace(new RegExp(permute, 'gi'), replacement));
 
@JeffAtwood - Watch this lot, they have bonkers userscripts cooking
 
):
 
nice
 
5:29 AM
:P
 
Eheheh..
 
@AidenBell, your fingers slipped, s/bonkers/epic/ right?
 
Of course
 
The Bizarro World (also known as Htrae) is a fictional planet in the DC comics universe. Introduced in the early 1960s, Htrae is a cube-shaped planet, home to Bizarro and his companions, all of whom were initially Bizarro versions of Superman, Lois Lane and their children. Later, other Bizarros were created to add to the population including Wonderzarro, Bizarro Flash, "the Yellow Lantern", Bizarro-Kltpzyxm and Batzarro, the World's Worst Detective. History In the Bizarro world of "Htrae" ("Earth" spelled backwards), society is ruled by the Bizarro Code which states "Us do opposite of a...
> society is ruled by the Bizarro Code which states "Us do opposite of all Earthly things! Us hate beauty! Us love ugliness! Is big crime to make anything perfect on Bizarro World!"
 
@rchern - Yea, fully. Bonkers in the UK is a good thing
 
5:29 AM
I started reading Wikipedia articles on the DC Comics universe one day and then realized that six hours had passed.
 
omg batzarro, the world's worst detective? HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS
Batzarro (Wayne Bruce) is a fictional comic book supervillain in the DC Comics Universe. He is a twisted doppelgänger of Batman, in the same vein as Bizarro, the similar doppelgänger to Superman. While a Bizarro version of Batman had first appeared in pre-Crisis continuity in World's Finest Comics #156 (March 1966), his first appearance in post-Crisis continuity occurred in Superman/Batman #20 (June 2005), which was written by Jeph Loeb. Loeb 'secretly' inserted the character into a panel in Superman #181 (April 2002), in which Batzarro's silhouette appears in the window of a bus Bizarro ...
 
Quick @JeffAtwood is drunk ... make a plea for diamond status
lmao Wayne Bruce
 
> Interestingly, Batzarro has a tendency to think aloud, often repeating what has just been stated in his thought boxes, the opposite of Batman's custom of quiet contemplation.
lol
 
Reminds me of that
 
holy balls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman/Batman
wikipedia allows THAT?
I am going to start suplexing people over there
 
5:34 AM
Spatman?
 
@JeffAtwood - Don't worry, the Internet will just turn into WPF/tcp-ip or similar in the end
according to some
 
things wikipedia allows in URLs that are completely f**king insane: periods at ends of URLs, parens at ends of URLs, forward slashes in article titles
last one is new to me
 
lol
Are there unicode characters in wikipedia URLs yet?
 
@AidenBell If we are convincing @JeffAtwood of something, it should be related to this hehehe

New Hire

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5:38 AM
@rchern - You got your CV on stackjobs yet?
 
@DanGrossman I think they are, at least for the language sites
 
@JeffAtwood Yeah, I've found that hilarious since on the flip side of the coin you have this nonsense: kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.pipelining
 
Seems so! Interesting
 
"Yeah..about those lower case first letters.."
 
Hmmm... no oneboxing love for foreign language Wikipedia? :(
 
5:39 AM
tbh - I have bigger worries than URL characters, like Javascript apps trampling all over the back button
 
What does "Back" even mean when you're not interacting with distinct pages anymore? Desktop apps don't normally have back and forward buttons
 
moon language wikipedia!
 
@DanGrossman Webapps still have distinctive states, don't they?
 
@YiJiang not on today's statetastic web
:S
@DanGrossman - You are right, but I still expect back->forward to be like cylcing windows of the app
or workflow progressions
 
Hahah, the forward slash problem is even worse than I thought.
Some are not possible because of limitations imposed by the MediaWiki software. In some cases (such as names which should begin with a lower case letter, like eBay), a template can be added to the article to cause the title header to be displayed as desired. In other cases (such as names containing restricted characters) it is necessary to adopt and display a different title. This page describes appropriate ways to handle these situations. Restrictions and workarounds Restrictions on page titles are listed at . The most commonly encountered problems are that: *titles cannot begin with ...
 
5:44 AM
In Unix-like operating systems, /dev/null or the null device is a special file that discards all data written to it (but reports that the write operation succeeded) and provides no data to any process that reads from it (yielding EOF immediately). In programmer jargon, especially Unix jargon, it may also be called the bit bucket or black hole. Usage The null device is typically used for disposing of unwanted output streams of a process, or as a convenient empty file for input streams. This is usually done by redirection. /dev/null is a special file, not a directory, so one cannot move ...
Nice URL on that one.
 
"For example, the peace symbol used in Sign “☮” the Times is a valid Unicode character (U+262E), -- so it can be included".
Would that go into the URL in Wikipedia?
 
I think a good example for forward/back on the web should be the way WP7 handles back buttons. Where Back is back to the previous state in the app until you get to the starting state at which point you go back to the previous app
 
well-designed android apps seem to do that too
 
back is an excellent metaphor, one of the best things the web ever did
after the hyperlink, it is the #2 major innovation
 
shakes fist those Javascript hooligans! ... Doesn't HTML5 have better support for back manipulation?
 
5:47 AM
@JeffAtwood i agree with this
 
now the FORWARD button, that is some ninja skills there -- rarely used but a lifesaver when you need it :)
 
the problem is that back is such a security rick on the web, you really want to restrict how it cen be used by web apps
risk even
 
See, this chat for example, I would expect clicking back to do what it does ... but when the SO tabs used XHR fragments ... that was annoying!
 
4
 
5:50 AM
webapps will be able to push entries into the browser history with custom data, apparently
 
@DanGrossman thought so ... hmm
 
@YiJiang That made me crack up, hahah. She's going to hate you now. ;)
 
@TimStone Let's talk some more and push thing thing off screen
And most important of all, don't star it
 
@DanGrossman Prepare for state-encoded in history lol
 
:( I knew that was going to happen
 
5:51 AM
lold
 
Hahah
 
I keep forgetting the chat is Google indexed and saying stupid crap
 
hmmm
went food shopping but failed to buy any type of dessert, and now I want something sweet
 
@YiJiang hey ):
 
assert(dessert);
 
5:53 AM
I wonder if that'll become a problem
 
yes, google should be picking up the chat transcripts
 
people don't normally expect chats to be permanent
 
@JeffAtwood - That is totally lame
 
you can test by doing searches on old phrases in chat.. this one is probably too new to be picked up
solution: don't say anything you'll regret. Why would you want to, anyway?
 
site:chat.meta.stackoverflow.com oy!
 
5:54 AM
@JeffAtwood - I often come here very tired or after a few drinks!
 
I don't want a chat log to suddenly outrank real pages about my name just because it's on your strong domain
 
@JeffAtwood You know those emails you write at 3:22 and think why oh god why did I send it ... this is that .
 
regardless of what I'm saying
 
Man that makes me mad
 
5:56 AM
Just thinking about this makes me reconsider participating
 
@DanGrossman agreed. I say stupid shit all the time ... I don't want it to live on forever
 
Maybe I'll have to make another profile under a made-up name
 
This is supposed to be casual chat
@DanGrossman - Good thinking
 
then spend a few hours finding all my previous chats to delete :x
 
@DanGrossman You talking to your sock puppet would be interesting
 
5:58 AM
ehrm, dont seem to be able to delete very old things I've said
 
nope
 
@DanGrossman 2 min is the limit
Eh... there are currently ten pages of oy for site:chat.meta.stackoverflow.com
 

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