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user6568562
6:04 PM
Man I missed it
 
Isn't that from last week?
livestreamer can't find a stream and website says "offline"
 
user6568562
I did see 25 September, somewhere in the details
 
You're not updated @Andras
 
I'm not
 
You are so backward that you use Python2 :D
 
6:06 PM
I do?:D
 
I thought Tristan only does Sunday streams
Fizzy could be more insane than normal. That is entirely possible. I'm sure he wouldn't disagree.
 
I got an email though D:
I have email announcements for when he goes live
 
user6568562
I concur, just verified and received an email as well
 
user6568562
This has to be some Goa'uld master plan
 
FTL silent stream (w/o facecam/voice)
 
user6568562
6:12 PM
We missed Tristan's private party : /
 
my email notifications were not enabled
enabled.
 
They weren't enabled because you don't love him as much as I do.
 
Rhubarb all. Enjoy watchin tristan's live videos
 
rbrb @BhargavRao
@Ffisegydd oh we're going there now are we
 
6:17 PM
geographical proximity puts me at the advantage here.
Enjoy your view from across the pond
 
user6568562
I suggest you break-dance over who wins Tristan's heart. I'm sure both of you have some sick secret moves
 
user6568562
Fizzy must robot dance like hell, while idjaw is a master of the art of bees knees
 
I'll have you know back in my day I was a Dance-Dance-Revolution all-star
 
user6568562
Case and point
 
@idjaw He's just paying attention to you for your money. HE TAKE YO MONEY, WHEN HE IN NEED! YEAH HE'S A TRIFLING TRISTAN INDEED. OH HE A GOLDDIGGER. WAY OVER TOWN. THAT DIGS ON YOU!
 
6:21 PM
So we're not running away together? They were all lies?
all of it?
 
No he's coming with me to Zihuatanejo
 
> I have dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone from me
 
user6568562
So deep and LZ friendly
 
and you know what fizzy...here...read this. That's what you deserve right now
 
user6568562
That's against the Geneva convention, man. Have you got no heart !
 
6:25 PM
I just declared war
deal with it
 
Apologise now.
 
 
Don't try to fight it. You're Canadian. So apologise.
 
argh....no...I can't
i can't hold it back
Sorry Fizzy.....
 
I forgive you.
 
6:28 PM
 
lol
cbg @All
 
hey @Sami
 
user6568562
Yo [ :
 
Hi ^^
 
I've got a bottle of rum for the week :D
 
6:37 PM
which one
 
@Ffisegydd awesome! I can get it in the Canada
do you approve?
 
Not tried it yet, give me 5 minutes.
 
user6568562
Damn Fizzy, always there for your fellow human : D
 
The trick is to catch fizzy before the bottle opens. After that, just be polite and ask nothing.
 
user6568562
6:43 PM
Haha : D
 
user6568562
I am gonna add to my CV : Made Fizzy laugh at D + 10 of being in SO
 
It's not bad, I don't really know much about rum so don't know if it's any good. It's okay though.
Quite a strong taste, almost like whisky.
 
user6568562
It took me longer than that, but I got the drill about being honestish on resumes
 
@Ffisegydd That right there is a win for me.
 
I prefer smoother.
Then again I don't drink whisky much.
 
user6568562
6:55 PM
whisky is the greatest, man. You add carbonated water and your alcoholism takes on a zest of panache
 
Oh shit, the second wave of pantry moths has spawned:S
@idjaw why you no downvote gimme teh codez questions?:P
 
@AndrasDeak which one?
there were like three in the last five minutes
 
Ah. My personal rule is that if the user is new, I always give the benefit of the doubt that they don't know the rules and are under the impression that we are in fact a code writing service.
If they answer back with a "oh sorry, let me update", then \o/ message received. If after a few minutes and/or an annoying comment, I will downvote.
 
user6568562
7:10 PM
Only Python 2.7 s'il vous plaît
 
ok..buffer done. downvoted
 
@AndrasDeak lol, watched the Last Witch Hunter :D
it was OK, however they failed badly at naming the "Finnish" witch :D
@AndrasDeak not only is guy's first name not Finnish, but... really, couldn't they think of any more formidable surname than "meadow house"
 
Oh, well, you can see why I didn't notice that:P
I have an irresistable urge to compensate @idjaw's Canadianness
"I am a little rusty with python because i have not done it in a while." vs "ok how do i call it to run". Whaaa? — Andras Deak 27 secs ago
 
Baltasar is a name that one could expect be given to a Roma child, perhaps... but...
 
@AnttiHaapala was the witch explicitly Finnish?
 
ooooh, the dude
the weirdest things people make wikis for
 
ketoneilikka :D
 
@AndrasDeak uuugh. I know......
 
pink flower named after its native habitat...
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/39810439/… can we please get one more for this
Thanks Antti
My daughter likes the pretty flowers :)
 
7:28 PM
@idjaw so think about how to name the Finnish baddie in a movie...
all I can see in my imagination is a flower field like that :D:D
 
are we talking about coming up with names that in native language mean something "pretty" but is used as an antagonist name?
 
yep
this one definitely felt like being picked up at random from a list of Finnish surnames
 
When should I use docstring with """, when comments (#)?
 
user6568562
@AnttiHaapala Maybe because she's pretty like a flower. While flexing my biceps
 
docstring for documenting a module, function or class
@randomhopeful he
 
7:33 PM
and minimize your usage of # comments in your code. If you find yourself having to add a lot of comments throughout your code, then it is not explicit and readable enough and your docstring has failed to explain what it needs to explain.
 
@linuscl # comments should explain why something is happening, not what is happening
 
user6568562
@AnttiHaapala Hahaa : D He's cute alright
 
if you need to explain what's happening, then you're doing it wrong
bad example:
 
@AnttiHaapala A quick google search and turning my brain off....that antagonist looks like a: Kiitos Kiitoksia
 
# store the number of elements in list foo into num_els
num_els = len(foo)
@linuscl ^ don't do that
 
user6568562
7:36 PM
@linuscl You might find this interesting : python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257 (If you haven't already)
 
ah here we go.....Just to really throw a wtf: Kiitos Kiitoksia from Jönköping

A nonsensical Finnish name from a Swedish city.
Throw that in a Hollywood movie
 
yeah that'd would be a true wtf, so yes, that was nominally better
 
user6568562
@AnttiHaapala Is there a difference between double and single vowels pronunciation in Finnish ?
 
@randomhopeful duration
 
@AnttiHaapala Actually, what is the grammatical breakdown of this: Kiitos Kiitoksia. I'm trying to understand how Google translated those two as the exact same words.
 
user6568562
7:39 PM
@AnttiHaapala Oh that's both convenient and obvious
 
user6568562
Except when your interlocutor finds sarcasm in everything. I loove vowels
 
kiitos = a thank (nominative case), kiitoksia = thanks (indefinite plural/partitive plural case of kiitos)
 
cool! :) Thanks
 
that's a noun that is.
 
@AnttiHaapala should I write something like
 
7:42 PM
@AnttiHaapala is this accurate forvo.com/word/kiitoksia/#fi
 
""" This is a function """
def function():
above any thing I do?
 
def foo():
    """my foo does so much bar
    :returns: an str of so much bar
    """
    print('I have so much bar')
    return "bar hard"
read this
 
user6568562
7:58 PM
@linuscl Are you reading from the reference ? Where they say "Make a habit of it ?"
 
yes
should I use the docstring only within a function or can I use it anywhere?
 
user6568562
It took me some time to get it : D Well, both links (mine and idjaw's) explain the jist of docstrings. The "make a habit of it" is an invitation to tidy up your code. But you will clear up any confusion by reading idjaw's link
 
27 mins ago, by Antti Haapala
docstring for documenting a module, function or class
 
user6568562
It doesn't have a direct implication on your code at runtime*. It's supposed to make it readable and for you to build easier documentation later on
 
Yes. But you can also enforce some extra rules for your docstring checking
 
8:04 PM
@AnttiHaapala pretty:)
> I'll have a stab at this now. Thanks @Andras Deak
not even a bloody upvote yet, 300-rep asker
they make repwhoring very hard
 
user6568562
It's not repwhoring to get a sincere concrete thank you to your efforts. It's not even analogous to a tip. More of a token of gratitude
 
user6568562
Maybe he'll come back to thank you later
 
6 days from now a random +15 will appear
maybe
probably not
 
Probably yes, they made a lot of effort to ask their question in a hard-to-answer way
the full conversation:
> Thanks for the idea, but unfortunately this will not work. I want to be able to later apply the red dashed boundary line to another plot made from real data. The red dashed line data therefore needs to be stored in some kind of array for later plotting over another 2d plot.This means that there's no use in using image processing too.
> @8765674 you can extract the contour line data. You have to get your hands dirty, but [it's not too hard] (or see [this] other answer of mine)
> I'll have a stab at this now. Thanks @Andras Deak
 
They seem to accept answers in general.
from what I can see in their profile
 
8:09 PM
yeah, I'm just mildly agitated by the fact that they omitted a lot of relevant info from their question, and their code is a link to pastebin which I refused to look at:P
 
user6568562
Oh this reminds me of something. Before the rep cap to be able to upvote, a message appear : "Your upvote is registered but won't appear yet. Get less noobish and they will be displayed." (Something along these lines)
 
yup, that's bullshit
it's been recently reworded, but it's still bullshit
 
huh? What is the point of that???
 
it isn't "registered" per se, it's included in some statistics
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak Yeah !
 
8:10 PM
CBG
 
grand ol' cabbage to you too @Code-Apprentice
 
user6568562
Yo [ :
 
How are the Pythonistas today?
 
user6568562
Learning 3rd grad maths like champs, thank you
 
Having a really lazy Saturday
 
8:15 PM
@randomhopeful you program in python and you are only in the 3rd grade?
 
found a source for upvote-with-no-privilege: meta.stackexchange.com/q/260765/313143
 
that irritated feeling you get when a new question with your favourite tag comes up and it's a horrible question
3
 
why do you love so much?
 
did you really have to out me like that in public
 
your niceness irks me:P
 
8:19 PM
I'm running out apologies for you, Andras
 
Good.
:P
 
actual laughs
 
wim
user image
10
 
haha. Thanks for that @wim
 
8:31 PM
Guys I have a question. Should I just ignore a user who maliciously downvotes my answers? Or should I report it? I don't care about the -2 reputation but I don't think it is a good behavior to just downvote another person's answer just because you don't like him. ( Whenever I answer to question that this other person answer to it before or after me, he just downvotes my answer. This has happened 4 times)
 
What an elaborate post! Can't believe it only took 50 seconds! — vaultah just now
I assume sockpuppetry
 
hmm
something is not right
wait!
That answerer asked that exact question this morning
and the question is not there anymore
@vaultah any way to confirm user deleted a question?
 
maybe google cached it, I'll try to find it
otherwise it's not possible without mod tools
 
their profile says they are the founder and CEO of instabase...
 
What's the proper way to get a sub-matrix out of a larger one with slicing in numpy? Matlab can take ranges as "coordinates" (i.e. A[1:N,1:N]) but it appears as if numpy doesn't like this notation
 
8:37 PM
@idjaw yep, found it. No upvotes, 2 downvotes, 2 close votes, self-answered
 
@vaultah Maybe they aren't aware that self-answering is OK?
 
Basically, he ignored every comment he received on his previous Q
 
@vaultah I don't have any visibility on that unfortunately. Why are they asking for help for something they founded? Is there any indication what their motivation is in that deleted question?
 
Hmmm...they probably aren't aware of the process of self-answering and that it is OK. That is my guess.
 
8:49 PM
BTW, looks like Ashish and Anant are colleagues linkedin.com/in/asdahiya
I wonder if this warrants a mod flag
 
@vaultah hmm..hard to say. If their rep was higher, absolutely. But I suspect that they are genuinely trying to use SO as a QA for their software and are not aware of how to use SO properly.
 
okay so I'm finding that numpy does use similar slicing syntax so there's no reason why the same logic shouldn't apply moving code over. does the numpy.trace() function not like taking slices or something?
 
@vaultah yeah the accept came through. This is a tough one to call.
I'll let your experience go with what you think is the right call :)
 
seems as if the issue is that you can't use parenthesis around or inside slices.
 
8:57 PM
oh hey @WayneWerner
 
they needed to put input inside their loop instead of right before
cabbage, @idjaw, everyone
 
@idjaw yep
 
@WayneWerner how's your Saturday going
 
Going well, helped my dad put up some vinyl gutters
They sound a lot better than the new digital gutters ;)
 
@WayneWerner I actually have some repairs to do (not critical) on a section of the front of my house for my gutters
 
9:08 PM
-facedesk-
 
@MikeVandenberg that notation works perfectly
or does that facedesk mean you solved it?:P
afk, be back later
 
@idjaw nice. My dad's gutters were probably older than I am - the house was built in the 70s, I was built in the 80s.
 
user6568562
@Code-Apprentice Oh no, no, I'm trying to learn Python while still having trouble with basic notions of mathematics.
 
the facedesk was towards Wayne's joke =P

But I think I solved it by removing parenthesis
 
@WayneWerner hehe. My house was built in the 50s and I was born in the 80s. This house definitely has stories
 
user6568562
9:10 PM
The "3rd" grade was there from drama effects. I know how to please my audience for are you not entertained ?
 
At one point my uncle drove something into the gutters. I forget what it was.
 
But my goodness the previous owners took impeccable care of this place. In come the young people with toddlers to ruin it all
:D
 
Nice. It's always enjoyable to live in a house that was well-cared for
 
It really helped us settle in a bit easier.
and not have to deal with crazy renovations
 
I've realized that we have the hardest time keeping the 3' mark of the walls not destroyed
and doors
 
9:12 PM
Today my daughter managed to undo her milk bottle and made it rain
made it rain...so badly
 
most of the door frames look like little people preparing for passover, using markers and pens instead of lambs blood
Which honestly probably wouldn't have been that much worse :P
Well, at least it was milk
there are certainly many, many other liquid(ish) substances that children can make a (terrible) mess with :P
 
like the once upon a time it was paint? yeah..
Or pea soup?
etc...
I'm sure we can share many a train wreck of a toddler-disaster
 
@idjaw I'm going to flag it, mainly because Anant gained rep, as it may be considered a voting ring, technically. The final decision is left to a moderator, but to be honest, I wouldn't expect anything other than a warning
 
@vaultah Probably for the best, and warning == learning lesson. So win either way
 
yeah
 
user6568562
9:20 PM
@idjaw I think Wayne meant substances of the biological realm. Like a digestion gift
 
Oh yes, I'm sure we both implied that. I just didn't want to get in to that explicit domain.
 
user6568562
Oh, yeah, I can see it now. Pardon my questionable likings
 
no need to apologize
Leave the apologizing to the Canadian
I got it covered
 
user6568562
Oh I'm sure I'm Canadianish in the inside. I'm too cold resistant to fully belong here + My love of French is only equal to my difficulty to correctly pronounce it
 
Pretty much the worst case scenario when it comes to children and messes
Too soon ;)
 
9:29 PM
OK. you saw it :)
 
Children are the best, but there are some times that they are most definitely the worst.
 
Which is why I'm very very thankful to have family who lives close by
 
user6568562
I can still salvage some of the Saturday night. Laters guys [ :
 
cheers @randomhopeful
 
Hm... is this a good dupe target for that from t1 import line1 question? stackoverflow.com/questions/3913217/…
rbrb @randomhopeful, enjoy!
 
9:33 PM
@WayneWerner That explanation seems too broad to give a new user the answer to that problem they are facing
 
Oooh, this one might be better: stackoverflow.com/questions/15890014/…
 
between those two, definitely the latter
Unfortunately I already voted
so someone else will have to help with that one
oh wait...silly me
 
I've got the hammer ;)
 
you have the mighty hammer
:P
oh...supper....be back in a bit
 
^^ already had my cv in there aw well
 
That's delightful
like... wait wat?
lletra.txt doesn't exist. Make it exist. — Natecat 4 hours ago
 
Make it so.
 
Best answer there could be
rbrb. More family time.
 
Oh right. I had written a comment to let them know how to troubleshoot it but then I decided against it
someone isn't happy with the answers here
 
10:02 PM
-2
Q: Does >> has any significance in C?

AkshayI am beginner in C programming language, recently I have read about Logics. Does expression like x >> 1 has any significance in C? if (x >> 1) { printf("%d", x); }

... "does >> have any significance in C" - "nope, the programmer just wrote it there for fun"
 
It was a typo. The person who wrote the language had their keyboard sensitivity too high, and when they realized their mistake it was too late.
 
-6
Q: r help,I have to write a program using nested while loops

slowjoe44here is the basic question: I cannot use the '*' to multiply strings. Just using nested while loops.. anyone who could help me out? And people I have tried doing this for 2 hours, I couldnt, thats why i came here for help. If you could then that would be great but if you dont want to then pl...

lol this got an update^
> And people I have tried doing this for 2 hours, I couldnt, thats why i came here for help. If you could then that would be great but if you dont want to then please just ignore the question. Thankyou
 
Then show your work please! Show the code you tried, explain where your difficulties lie. Why can you not share your code? — idjaw 5 secs ago
even though it was a dupe. Antti, looks like you have a protege here . New user using python 3.6
 
upvoted :D
 
hehe :)
 
10:17 PM
@AndrasDeak I'm still having issues with that slicing notation. It's apparently not working as intended
 
I hope that the upvote helped... and they continued using python 3.6 and not decide that "ok 2.7 it is"
 
getting a very strange error that sounds like it has nothing to do with what I'm asking
nvm. Man I just need to keep asking empty questions here cus I figure it out on the next thing I change everytime lol
 
srsly bro?
and an upvote..smh..
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
answer deleted \o/
┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
 
10:35 PM
and question closed
 
hmmm. what are your thoughts of a module having a method called list. I feel that it should not be done
I don't think I agree with anything sharing a name of a built-in
or am I too strict with that rule?
 
@MikeVandenberg what do you mean...?
A[1:N,1:N] will take an NxN submatrix (subarray) the top left corner of which is the [1,1] element (in maths and matlab/fortran that would be element (2,2))
oh nevermind, I see you fixed it:P
quoting an error usually helps, though
 
@randomhopeful good luck with the learning, on both fronts
And you know about Mathematics, right?
 
@idjaw I think that would only lead to shadowing if somebody imported *, so they had it coming
well, or if they specifically from imported list, but then they should've realized what's wrong
Either way, module.list() of instance.list() shouldn't be that confusing.
I mean, sure, call it something else, but if it reeaaally needs to be called list, I think it could work
with my usual disclaimer about not knowing what I'm talking about, of course:P
 
I think I know where the motivation is coming from to do it. I just don't agree with it. However, the naming for it makes sense.
I agree with you fwiw
I just need to see if I can find a good suggestion before just saying "no..I don't like this"
 
10:52 PM
listify? enumerate? (duh) tally?
 
I think this is following the structure of the other clients written similarly
the idea is this
foo.bar.get(id)
foo.bar.show(id)
foo.bar.list()
 
ls:P
 
pfft
lst()
hehe
lisssst
 
lispshitimeant
 
forgot extra underscore for init
 
11:02 PM
I love the smell of typo answers in the evening
especially by 30k users
that's what I meant about seeing upvotes as buffer for downvoting crap answers
 
right
 
11:39 PM
well, rep loss caused by downvoting answers isn't visible to others
rbrb
 
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