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12:12 AM
@vaultah that's why I had to take a screenshot:P
rbrb
 
12:55 AM
am I crazy...isn't what OP is confused about pretty much what I flagged as a dupe? stackoverflow.com/questions/39812841/…
 
@idjaw ?
 
eh?
 
yeah, OP doesn't understand how mutable default arguments work, probably doesn't even know what mutability is
so yeah, I think that's a good dupe
 
I'm just confused why high rep people coming by this question didn't help hammer it
that's why I was a bit confused
 
6k is not that high, and high-reps can be superficial or turds too
 
1:05 AM
109K
and a commenter at 34k
 
ah, didn't check the commenter
what I don't get is a lack of downvotes: OP failed to understand the article they linked (mutability is in the first paragraph), and asked a question that will never be a usable signpost
that's the epitome of "not useful"
 
Their example was also what the article explained how to avoid it
so, yes....did not fully get the article
 
"fully"
we do this every night:D
 
hehe
 
rhubarb, good night:)
 
1:09 AM
cheers @AndrasDeak
have a good night
 
1:47 AM
lol, I see I missed the father talk - weekend cbg all
 
 
2 hours later…
4:14 AM
Anyone know how to compute a negative fractional exponent of a matrix? As in not elementwise powers but as a matrix function?
 
4:30 AM
late night cbg
 
5:25 AM
I have a question but idk where to ask it or how to google it
If u look at a bitten into fudgesicle it very clearly has 2 layers
what are they
 
I think you're crazy.
:D
 
cbg
 
cbg
 
okay
where do I ask that tho
 
I have no idea. Digging around Google until you find a site dedicated to the dissection of fudgesicles
 
5:39 AM
I doubt that exists
 
you should start a community for fudgesicle fanatics
 
Do you know any?
I think it might be hard to get a base community
 
nope. But if you build it, they will come.
 
I don't think that's how that works
 
It worked for Ray. He built it, and they showed up.
 
5:48 AM
I'm sure he did some level of marketing
once you get a base community it'll market itself
but like
you need a few ppl to spread the word
 
nah man. He just built that field and they showed up.
 
Scala has some really neat ideas... Though I like them, I am not sure why...
 
Nah man
it's like going to the middle of like iowa before europeans
and building a mueseum
no ones gonna go to that mueseum
because how would they even know it was there
 
6:42 AM
-1
Q: Python - Not iterating the entire file

Munis WarsiI am in the process of picking python. here is my code def valid_file(): f=open('log.txt', 'r') items=iter(f.readlines()) for m in items: m=re.compile(r'^(L|H)>\s*\d*\.\d*\s[A-Z]{4}.\w{4}\s\d*\([a-z]{3}\):\s\d{3}\(\w*\)\s\w{4}.*$') return m print valid_file() Upon ru...

omglol
@Natecat .... yeah python room is definitely the right place to ask that, oh wait, no...
no this isn't.
 
6:58 AM
Cabbage
 
@AnttiHaapala Weird. I suspect cargo-cult code construction.
 
@PM2Ring seriously, where can one find all that shit
like wrapping readlines into iter()
this guy is a genius :D
this must be a troll :(
 
It's a mystery. :)
 
like, I'd expect a cargo-cult programmer copy-pasting from working examples...
 
7:06 AM
I just did a Google search for iter(f.readlines()) but all I could find was that question, and this anonymous pastebin: pastebin.com/KDmwPFg2
 
exactly
can't understand why anyone would upvote that question :(
well, someone in revq who doesn't have any python experience
Typo or Cannot Reproduce Dockerfile error: /bin/sh: 1: [“python”,: not found - Wang Nick‎ - 2016-10-02 06:30:03Z
 
@AnttiHaapala Maybe it got an upvote because at a quick glance it looks like the OP was trying to do the right thing: it has code which is almost a MCVE, and it describes both the actual output and expected output. Unfortunately, it's still rubbish, and it's on hold now.
 
ah but it didn't.
it looked like it explained :D
 
@AnttiHaapala Should we flag that one as spam? It ends with the weird phrase "Vegetables Juice_pressed Nutrition" and even though it's not a link it could easily be turned into one.
 
well it didn't make any sense as spam either :d
:P
this will take care of it
 
7:19 AM
@AnttiHaapala I just gave it a custom flag saying it was possibly pre-spam, and I included the "Vegetables Juice_pressed Nutrition" in my flag message.
 
strange again...
someone named "fernando torres" linking to "my website", when the website is Vietnamese and in Vietnamese.
 
Maybe he's from an alternate timeline where Spain colonised Vietnam, and France colonised Mexico. :)
 
-1
Q: add string to list from another function

אסף מזוןHello Im kinda new at python, I tried to add string from another function to my list, How can I make it happen? Thanks! alist=[] def Function2(String): String2 = (String,'Again !') return String2 def Function1(): Function2("Hello!") var=Function2(String) alist.append(var) Function1() p...

@PM2Ring makes sense!
 
@AnttiHaapala That code doesn't define String anywhere.
 
@PM2Ring it does, within Function2, and that's what they're asking
 
7:32 AM
Oops. You're right. "Hello!" gets passed as the arg
brb
 
7:45 AM
help and improvement queue, lol
I still have only progress of 7 posts
13
Q: Strange way of notifying that 20 Help and Improvements have been edited

Mad PhysicistWhen I edited my 20th item from the "Help and Improvement" category, the following showed up: Looks like a normal screen, except that the "Next" button is missing, despite being clearly mentioned in the instructions. I would expect a notice about why there is no next button, and a link to retu...

lol ^
it took this long for anyone to try review 20...
This may come up only now because so far almost nobody has had the nerf to suffer through the 60+ review items getting 20 decent posts usually requires — Magisch Aug 12 at 12:45
 
8:44 AM
This guy wants his program to email tracebacks to him. But that seems weird to me. IMHO, code that spews out tracebacks isn't ready to be rolled out. OTOH, I guess some people expect their users to be beta testers...
 
9:14 AM
@AnttiHaapala Mad Physicist indeed:P
OK, they were on a badge hunt, makes more sense
also, cbg and rbrb, off to exercise my faux-democratic rights
 
9:32 AM
who the hell makes a job offer through facebook
 
Facebook, perhaps?
 
cbg
nope.
I just randomly checked facebook's "message requests" and found really weird things
 
They are not able to find you in LinkedIn then
 
including ruby job, but I have never even read ruby code
 
9:57 AM
class Widget:
    def __init__(self, tines):
        self.tines = tines
    def copy(self):
        return Widget(self.tines)
class Sprocket(Widget):
    def reticulate(self):
        self.tines *= 2
a = Sprocket(23)
b = a.copy()
b.reticulate()
#AttributeError: 'Widget' object has no attribute 'reticulate'
I'm trying to rewrite Widget.copy so Sprocket.copy returns a Sprocket instance instead of a Widget instance. Is there an idiomatic solution for that?
I can do return type(self)(self.tines) but I don't know if I like it
It's a bit brittle in that it assumes that all child classes will have identical parameters for their constructor. If I do it that way and do class Cog(Widget): def __init__(self, tines, axle_diameter):, then Cog.copy will fail with TypeError: __init__() missing 1 required positional argument: 'axle_diameter'
Maybe I'll just do import copy and def copy(self): return copy.copy(self). I don't like to import unless I have to, but I think I have to.
 
class Widget:
    def __init__(self, tines):
        self.tines = tines
    def copy(self):
        return self.__class__(self.tines)

class Sprocket(Widget):
    def reticulate(self):
        self.tines *= 2

a = Sprocket(23)
b = a.copy()
b.reticulate()
print(a.__class__, a.tines, b.__class__, b.tines)
#output
<class '__main__.Sprocket'> 23 <class '__main__.Sprocket'> 46
 
Ok, I like __class__ over type.
Cog is still an issue but I think I'm over-future-proofing. I don't need Cog now and I don't forsee ever needing it.
 
10:14 AM
Yeah, if the subclass __init__s don't all take the same parameters this approach gets messy. In that situation you could make the __init__ methods take a **kwargs arg, and the .copy method can construct a suitable kwargs from the current object's self.__dict__.
 
Right up until some troll user does
class Cog(Widget):
    def __init__(self, tines, x):
        self.tines = tines
        self.y = hash(x)
At which point you can't reverse-engineer the original arguments just from the object dict.
But perhaps people that write code like that deserve to not have nice copy methods
 
@AndrasDeak even on a badge hunt
 
Anyway. The whole thing turned out to be an XY problem. I wanted to make an extended version of my Point class with new methods transposed and mirrored_over_y_axis, and was trying to figure out how to make the addition of two ExPoints return an ExPoint instance instead of a Point instance. But ultimately I just ended up extending the Point class itself with def _transposed(self): ... and Point.transposed = _transposed.
Naming chat. when I create a child class of a class whose purpose is "basically just the original class plus some minor bells and whistles", I typically name it Ex[original class name] or [original class name]Ex, for "Extended".
The Windows API does something similar with its function names a lot. example
Come to think of it, I wonder why this is so. C++ permits function overloading, so why have both FindWindow and FindWindowEx when they do the same thing but with different parameters?
 
10:32 AM
Too broad Analyzing charts with python - RickySlick‎ - 2016-10-02 10:30:24Z
 
Maybe they want to make sure their API can be invoked from languages that don't have function overloading?
 
@Kevin Windows API is C API.
and the reason for that is two-fold: not only is it pretty much impossible to link against C++ API from any sane programming language, but also most of the API predates the use of C++.
 
Whoops the "Syntax" box on the documentation is marked "C++" so I assumed that's what it was written in. Lesson: never trust Microsoft.
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_API "The Windows API (Win32) is focused mainly on the programming language C [...] Despite C lacking any traits of object-oriented programming, the Windows API, and Windows, has sometimes been described as object-oriented."
 
@Antti so it's referendum day today:D
 
10:40 AM
I wonder if there are any functions in the API with three or more different possible paramters... Then it would be FunctionNameExEx
a quick search through msdn's search page is inconclusive
@PM2Ring Certainly you have to pass a lot of structs around if you want to get anything done. That's OO, sort of.
 
user6568562
@Code-Apprentice Thank you dude [ :
 
user6568562
@WayneWerner @idjaw Thank you and it did was very enjoyable :P
 
user6568562
Cbg everyone
 
cbg
 
@Kevin I suppose so. Depending on what the structs are like. :) FWIW, the Amiga API was written in "object-oriented C", I guess that's where I learned to do OO programming. Sure, it's a bit tedious when the language doesn't have OO syntax; OTOH, it gives you a good insight into what's happening at a low level.
I guess it was also good that the Amiga OS was relatively small compared to modern systems, so it didn't take forever to learn, and the design was (mostly) well thought-out so everything worked together in a coherent fashion... mostly. :)
 
11:16 AM
thank you :)
 
@RachitMishra you're welcome:P
 
If I have an array of 0..n length with random integers and I want maximize the sum if I use a,b or c fixed length jumps till the end of the array, is there any algorithm someone is aware of that can help me solve this? I'm kinda stuck :x)
 
???
max(sum(arr[::a]),sum(arr[::b]),sum(arr[::c]))
 
Cabbage
 
but that's probably not what you mean
@BhargavRao cbg
and rhubarb for me
 
11:25 AM
Cya
 
Not really, @AndrasDeak. sorry if my description was abit unclear. I have X amount of a intervals and Y amount of b intervals and Z amount of c intervals, each a,b,c interval is of a fixed length and i need to place them so i jump a,b,c length each time untill the end of the array and the placement should generate the maximum sum
I tried with a knapsack modification and some kind of maximum price matrix with dynamic programming but with no progress.
 
12:03 PM
Antii Happala?
 
12:24 PM
o/ cbg
 
12:35 PM
\o cbg
 
\o/ cbg
 
Is there a target for "Accept a list of strings as input"? Similar to this stackoverflow.com/questions/4663306/… but for strings
 
@BhargavRao a list, I'm not sure. But there is an extensive answer written by Kevin that PM made me aware of yesterday: stackoverflow.com/questions/23294658/…
about user input
 
@idjaw Nope, that's different
 
 
1 hour later…
1:57 PM
I got the OP to give info for their problem. Do you think it is eligible for a reopen? stackoverflow.com/q/39817426/1832539
 
@idjaw That's enuff to be reopened. But I guess it's a dupe
 
can it be transferred as a dupe? Not sure how that works
 
Nope, You need five people to reopen and then get a hammer to close it
 
Ok. Just voted for reopen
 
Edited the post.
 
user559633
2:34 PM
off-topic: anyone else use google analytics and note that it started async including doubleclick ads/tracking?
 
2:58 PM
Nope
@TadhgMcDonald-Jensen Cabbage!
 
Hi i created window app in pyqt and i have checkbox here. When it is checked, it automatically do some stuff (don't have to click count button, QtCore.SIGNAL works) but when i uncheck it, it still do it automatically this stuff. How to disable this when i uncheck checkbox? Are here an example because i can't find on stack similar problem.
 
user559633
Yeah, I'd need to see the code. I assume that you're depending on some variable state that's not actually being manipulated by your checkbox.
 
3:22 PM
thank you, i pasted it to pastebin pastebin.com/JvB04qvh
 
user559633
@znawca I'd shorten it to an mcve. I assume the behavior you expect is on lines 46->48, so why not debug there? Either print or pdb
 
user559633
which is to say, i can't see anything obviously wrong there
 
user559633
cbg @Code-Apprentice
 
3:52 PM
self-grown carrots, omnom
@AndrasDeak closes now?
or 9?
 
user559633
Do you grow them indoors or do you have an outdoor garden?
 
Typo/Missing calls using a nested if statement within a for loop - 4agalaxy7‎ - 2016-10-02 15:59:52Z
 
rhubarb people
 
@tristan outdoors
 
4:08 PM
Cya @thefourtheye
 
@RobertGrant ah seems that Rantti is an actual surname in Finland...
 
Antti Rantti
 
or perhaps I'd change my name to Rantti Happala
 
user559633
4:36 PM
Codename: Randy Happily
 
hmm, that would be a true pseudonym
 
Randi is a bad word in hindi
 
user559633
In English, it's uncommon slang for "sexually aroused"
 
@BhargavRao it isn't quite family-safe in English either
well...
 
5:05 PM
Rhubarb
 
If a user is continuously creating new accounts to post the same question every 2-3 hours, is flagging for moderator attention the correct thing to do? (I've done it three times already :0 )
 
I'd say yes
 
Probably. There's nothing else you really could do.
 
user6568562
@tristan Yo [ : Are you setting up ?
 
user559633
@randomhopeful yep, just got done spilling my tea. starting now
 
user6568562
5:12 PM
@tristan Hey that's an evolution from last week : D
 
I think I have a solution for stackoverflow.com/q/39779538/2301450, but it's quite ugly
it involves removing lines between description = and the next ast node one by one and trying to compile the rest of them as an expression until the compilation succeeds. Seems to work for my test cases
 
I see. If you guys see a question similar to this one remember that the guy has already asked it 4-5 times :-)
@vaultah ah, remember that q. placed a bounty now, I'd like to see a nice answer if there is one :-)
 
There would be a nice solution if the lineno of all expressions was the first line of that expression...
Multiline strings break everything :(
 
5:28 PM
Not in JS :D
template strings ftw
 
Multiline strings are collapsed when the AST is created from what I know. The parser still has the structural information but it's pretty ugly from what I remember.
 
5:44 PM
Why is @tristan doing a silent stream again? I am confuse.
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd I'm not -- no one was on so i turned off video
 
@vaultah remember: 'single'.
 
I would have watched but I'm on vacation and FTL is boring.
 
user559633
:)
 
Mostly the latter.
 
user559633
5:47 PM
Doing fallout 4 right now
 
@AnttiHaapala oh, single fits better
Thanks
 
though there were corner cases in python 2.7
cannot remember
 
user6568562
@tristan I I'm still having that offline blank screen. And my chat messages don't seem to go through : /
 
user559633
Restart the browser?
 
user6568562
I did ! To no avail
 
user559633
5:57 PM
:(
 
user6568562
Hang on, I'll trouble shoot this son of a son
 
6:30 PM
recbg
@AnttiHaapala closed at 7. It's still being evaluated, but there was something like 39% participation 1.5 hours before closing
need 50% for validity, and there are a higher number of spoiled ballots
although only something like 5% spoiled, the rest are almost all in favour of the government's agenda
But not to worry, government says that their choice had majority among valid voters, so they're free to do anything:D
 
7:19 PM
Was driving through the lakes and found some disgusting graffiti on some pillar. It was vile, I had to take a picture of it to document it. @JRich have you seen this crap!?
Disgusting. There were kids about!
 
user559633
Lancashire? Like from Game of Thrones?
 
Similar, but more inbreeding and worse accents.
 
7:37 PM
shots fired?
 
8:08 PM
Oh yes, it was about time, @Antti: "I'm going to submit to Parliament a change to the Constitution. I believe we have to show the will of the people, and we have to specify this in the Constitution. Brussels is also facing an important decision. The EU is a democratic community, and in one of the member countries 92% of participants stated that they disagree with the EU's suggestion. Can Brussels force the immigration quota upon us? I promise to do everything so that this doesn't happen."
guess who:P
too bad that 92% is from the 42% of voters who dragged their asses to the ballots (and virtually everyone who agrees with them is among those)
 
@AndrasDeak you busy?
 
@MikeVandenberg yup:)
 
If you're free later on, lemme know. I'm having issues porting some seemingly simple code from Matlab regarding matrix exponents.
Specifically, I want to raise a matrix to the (-0.5) power. matlab supports this natively and the documentation seems to say that it first inverts the matrix then uses eigenvalues/vectors in the algorithm.

Python/numpy don't natively support non-integer powers. I think I found the equation MATLAB applies under the hood but it's not working in my simple tests.
 
8:43 PM
out of votes
 
so I found scipy.linalg.sqrtm() and scipy.linalg.inv() which seem to check out on dummy examples but it still doesn't return the same result as MATLAB when applied to the same input
 
@MikeVandenberg MCVE for inv?
 
9:00 PM
MCVE?
 
ugh, I've misinterpret a message, I thought you have a problem for getting same data for inverting matrix in scipy and in MATLAB
but results "seem to check out on dummy examples", so I assume they work fine
 
yeah that's the issue I'm having. The calculation works on a dummy example but when I moved the code over to work in the actual project, it's returning different results from how MATLAB is handling it.
 
your dummy example should have similar symmetry to your actual problem
for instance, I can imagine that its sqrt might not be unique
especially that you have an inverse there as well: are you sure the matrix is invertible?
 
a = (numpy.random.rand(N,N)*1j+numpy.random.rand(N,N)).astype(numpy.complex64)

b = scipy.linalg.sqrtm(scipy.linalg.inv(a))
c = numpy.dot(b,b)

print(numpy.allclose(c,scipy.linalg.inv(a)))
returns true
 
@MikeVandenberg yes, that's what I'd expct
I vaguely remember that sqrt is only guaranteed to be meaningful for symmetric positive semidefinite matrices...
if your matrix can be diagonalized, then you can look at any function of that matrix, though
 
9:11 PM
so I've confirmed that after multiple iterations of the MATLAB code, the input to this X^-0.5 line is always symmetric about the main diagonal
 
as long as the inverse of the square of your matrix gives the original matrix, you have a valid power to the -0.5th
that's what you should check
 
print(numpy.allclose(scipy.linalg.inv(c),a))
also returns True
 
Great. What's f?
 
What, the f?
 
9:13 PM
Evening all
 
cabbage:)
 
sorry c
 
I hear your fellows stayed away in droves, @andras.
 
Are you saying that both numpy.allclose(c,scipy.linalg.inv(a)) and numpy.allclose(scipy.linalg.inv(c),a) are true? Because that doesn't surprise me much
@JRichardSnape yup, more than I expected, fortunately
I wouldn't have been surprised at a valid result...
what I like a lot is that more than 10 ballots were spoiled in the capital:)
~6% overall
 
Yes, I was impressed. I did also hear Orban's reaction viz "I will change the constitution".
 
9:15 PM
@JRichardSnape yup yup yup, it's a smashing success for the leading party:D
Brussels won't know what hit 'em
 
Anyhow - @mike - I've had a number of occasions where numpy doesn't exactly match matlab outputs - it's almost always been where solutions are non-unique, rather than a bug.
 
@AndrasDeak yeah that's what I was confirming. I just tried using that check on real data and it's false.
lamb = scipy.linalg.sqrtm(scipy.linalg.inv(TrKEK))
check = numpy.dot(lamb,lamb)
print(numpy.allclose(TrKEK, scipy.linalg.inv(check)))
@JRichardSnape that was something I was afraid of. I have a feeling that not having the same solution will drastically change the rest of the output
 
@Ffisegydd Croeso i bawb. Aye, even thee ;)
 
9:31 PM
well I'm much closer now. I switched from to using scipy.linalg.logm() and scipy.linalg.expm() in accordance to this answer by charles: stackoverflow.com/questions/34409876/…
 
cabbagio!
 
but still off by enough of a margin where I'm not comfortable with the answer
however, at the very least this passed the check of returning the original input when squared and inverted
 
Hi people
Need feedback on this
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Generative music based on events on GitHub
 
@MikeVandenberg you can't expect more than that
if you have two matrices that reproduce the original (one from matlab, one from numpy), both are correct
 
10:26 PM
how does delete requesting an answer work. Do I pretty much downvote and tag here to get others to downvote?
 
@AndrasDeak I let the algorithm run its full 100 iterations. The output of that matrix power thing gets saved as one of the inputs for the next iteration. It should eventually converge.

MATLAB and Python are starting to get similar but some elements still differ by over 10%. And a major concern is that Python's output is not symmetric whereas MATLAB's is.
 
@idjaw don't do that:P
voting cabals are not cool
but >20k users can delvote <=-3 scored answers, yes
 
@AndrasDeak That's why I wanted to ask. I've seen it mentioned here, and wasn't sure how that worked.
 
@MikeVandenberg as long as both fulfill that they are sqrtm, both are valid. It's just that matlab chooses one from many solutions using symmetry, while numpy doesn't
@idjaw never ask for downvotes, anywhere
asking for delvotes is usually OK
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah...*delvotes* is what I was asking about, but I had no idea how it worked....so I had the ignorant assumption that it was mob downvoting :P
 
10:31 PM
@idjaw no, it's a very subtle kind of mob downvoting:P
 
I found this answer that suggests uninstalling OSX's Python 2.7 which is a big no no
 
you need >=3 delvotes to kill something, but only closed questions can be delvoted and only <-3 scored answers can be delvoted, and the latter by >20k users, and there are some other minor rules with times and scores and number of delvotes needed
look at the 10k and 20k privileges for details:)
 
right. I'm less than 100 away! :P
 
@idjaw that has zero downvotes
 
So what does one usually do when they find older answers that are wrong
but no one voted on them. They are still answers that are there
 
10:33 PM
downvote, comment
 
ok
so I get delvoting is for when there is attention on the answer in the form of upvotes
but the answer is clearly wrong?
 
you're free to whine here if it's harmful or egregious, just don't make it look like a request for mob downvoting, that never goes well:)
@idjaw beg your pardon?
delvoting is for stuff that needs to be removed from the site:P
 
@AndrasDeak oh, that was never my intention. I could have phrased the question better by simply asking what does one do when....
 
@idjaw yeah, I know, just trying to be explicit:)
 
@AndrasDeak when is delvoting warranted. i.e. when do you usually do it
 
10:35 PM
well I can only delvote questions yet and only 48 hours after closure, but I do so if the question is useless, or pointlessly trivial attracting repwhoring answers
for answers, I'd probably vote if it's harmful, or entirely outdated, or not an answer at all (though we have NAA flags for that)
 
@AndrasDeak is there anyway to force numpy to end up with a different one of the non-unique solutions? Cus while it's mathematically valid that both answers are acceptable, the consequences after performing more matrix operations is causing the final results to be grossly different still
 
Rule of thumb: if an answer doesn't have any downvotes, you shouldn't ask for it to be deleted. I mean, if even you don't downvote it, why should it be deleted?
@MikeVandenberg your point being?:P
"different" between matlab vs numpy
as long as you don't state why one is better than the other, both are correct
and no, I don't know if that could be done, I'd guess you can't
 
something just doesn't sit very right about that =/
 
well, as long as it's a 1/sqrt, it's correct
I can see of course why you'd like a symmetric matrix, that's prettier
it probably boils down to the eigensystem returned by the two programs
you could try looking at the two, matlab's vs numpy's
I'd guess the eigenvectors coming from matlab are prettier
 
hmm alright. I'll look into that a bit
 
10:42 PM
@idjaw when you hit 10k, I'd gladly make good use of your delvotes, I have a few questions from the meta-tag I'd like to clean up in the long run:P
 
great. I should be there soon enough :D
If only the questions were better tonight
 
from what I saw earlier...yuck
the thing is, the really bad stuff gets quickly deleted by >20k guys, so I rarely get to delvote
and there's those posts in [guide], but 1 delvote doesn't do anything; 2 is enough because there's a "posts with many delvotes" tool for high-reps, and a third one usually comes in after a while
so you and I could hit it off, some brutal delete voting would straighten your Canuck ways out a bit:P
 
jumping in to the dark side
 
the dark side is good for you
there's cookies and shit (not literal shit)
maybe even poutine :>
 
wooooo poutine!!!
 
user559633
10:53 PM
what if you served poutine in a bowl made of steak?
 
BTW if you want to know what hard-core delvoters do, ask Antti:P
 
user559633
we could call it mootine
 
I imagine him to exercise his rights often
 
@AndrasDeak so the eigenvectors are exactly the same but the eigenvalues differ. The first few are large enough to be the same but the last few are very very small and differ by larger and larger amounts. I think it's because of precision differences
 
@tristan and if it turns out to suck, just pootine?
 
10:54 PM
it won't suck...it can't
hold on...I have an answer for that
 
@MikeVandenberg precision shouldn't matter if both are doubles...
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak i don't believe that to be a realistic outcome, but.. sure
 
are those eigenvalues close to 0?
 
user559633
and if you make a double, you won't care about the precision
 
@tristan hypodermally speaking
 
10:54 PM
yes
 
@MikeVandenberg how close?:P
 
 
matlab is in doubles, python is in singles. Or more specifically complex doubles vs complex64s
 
They take the ends of a brisket and put on a poutine
 
@idjaw that...looks like the barfiest poutine I've seen here, which is saying something, as all poutine I've seen here looks like barf
 
10:55 PM
Leave the room now
 
user559633
pinned and starred
 
I come from a sad, underdeveloped country where food doesn't look like barf
not before eating it, anyway
@MikeVandenberg soooooo why are you surprised, again???
 
user559633
is hungary underdeveloped?
 
I'm not surprised anymore. Now just flustered
 
user559633
10:56 PM
@idjaw where can i go to make that be in my hand/stomach
 
user559633
and, if i'm being honest, probably spilled on my shirt
 
@MikeVandenberg try with double complexes, and see if you should bang a certain head to an arbitrary wall
@tristan poutine-wise, absolutely
I've never seen something like that here
 
i think I'm gonna try switching matlab to single precision first. Cus while working in python with doubles is doable, doing so in opencl is just not feasible and drastically changes computation time
so I'd prefer to keep my python environment in single precision
 
sure, what matters is that you don't compare apples to giraffes...
cause you know, giraffes are cool but apples are not oranges
 
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