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12:30 AM
Can anyone see this user gravatar? meta.stackoverflow.com/users/7802200/aryamccarthy
 
@Braiam yes
 
So... just me...
 
can you access graph.facebook.com/10206942479720028/picture?type=large or scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/p200x200/… directly? (the first link redirects to the second)
 
@dorukayhan fb redirects me to akamai which shows me the image
And apparently caching did its magic
 
12:45 AM
@Queen k
 
 
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user1593881
2:14 AM
Nokia just can't seem to get that job ad link right. I wonder why they can't find anyone.
 
user1593881
2:25 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ No work tomorrow?
 
user1593881
2:45 AM
@YvetteColomb I have a friend in NZ. She's also into racing horses and stuff.
 
user3956566
@RawN :)
 
user1593881
@YvetteColomb What's down under now? Autumn, winter?
 
user3956566
3:13 AM
@RawN end of Autumn. Where are you?
 
user1593881
@YvetteColomb Almost at the antipodal point.
 
user3956566
I don't have a globe handy lol
 
user1593881
Somewhere in Europe.
 
user3956566
lol
 
user1593881
Geographically speaking.
 
user1593881
3:18 AM
6hr drive away from Vienna and 6 centuries behind Vienna.
 
user1593881
@YvetteColomb Do you need a passport for visiting NZ?
 
@RawN did you mean visa (nope)? A passport is still required and has to be valid for at least 3 months beyond intended departure date
 
user1593881
@SamuelLiew I see. Thanks.
 
 
user3956566
5:44 AM
@RawN yep, but we have reciprocal welfare and medicare arrangements
 
user3956566
@RawN well that sounds lovey and kinda spooky at the same time
 
6:41 AM
Hello Everyone!

I want to discuss a matter that really bother me in Stack Overflow community

I notice that some users in the community deal with other user based on race or religion.

there manner in writing response is impoliteness just because the user from Arab or Muslim Countries.

I don't know why but I feel sad for this way of dealing with others based on there race.

Alot of time I wrote a very good answers on questions and I got down voting or comments in impolitenes way.

I think that is not fair to evaluate some one in negative way just because his name Mohammad or you don't li
 
@MohammadOghli I'm sorry you are seeing or experiencing this behaviour on SO. Perhaps Meta is a better place to bring this up. Another way you can action on such posts or comments is to flag for a moderator.
 
@SamuelLiew Thanks for commenting so Meta is the better place to discuss this matter.
 
@MohammadOghli I agree with Samuel. It is unfortunate that things are happening such that anyone believes there is a discrimination. Discrimination should not exist. However, this room is not where you should have this discussion, unless your issue is specifically with the people who regularly post in this room. Your issue is something that should be addressed on Meta Stack Overflow.
 
@MohammadOghli yes.. you will get attention of the community there.. Also any mod who could help you will be able to check your issues
This room will have primarily reviewers who close vote bad questions..
 
@Makyen Thanks alot for clarification.
 
6:53 AM
@MohammadOghli, Alternately, if you feel the issue affects more than just Stack Overflow, then you should bring the issue up on Meta Stack Exchange.
 
7:23 AM
@MohammadOghli, that would make a good Meta question. However, you will certainly be asked why you believe the negative responses are due to race and not other factors, so it is worth thinking about that.
I did think it would be useful for Stack Overflow to randomise names for a day in an experiment, to see if there's a measurable difference. However, I think some folks on Meta would be furious about the idea so I am not sure it would get off the ground (quite a few people on Meta are furious unfortunately :-))
 
7:40 AM
@MohammadOghli As a note if you find a comment rude or offensive you can also report in this chat room, we have a bot running to detect these and we always need more data to include in our NLP feed.
 
@MohammadOghli It may seem that way.
But I think it doesn't have to do with religion per se.
It has to do with (sadly) a lot of bad content coming from people named Mohammed (for example). I don't know why it's like that, but it's like that. Maybe it's the bad English.
I can usually detect when a user is from India or Pakistan or a country in that region just by the way the question is asked, even when the user doesn't say so specifically, which is an alarming phenomenon
 
Yes, there are some linguistic constructions that give it away, even with user123456 usernames.
 
I also think people from different countries have different threshold on what is rude/offensive, SO lately is tuned on American standards and as we (the rest of the world) knows, they are fairly "direct", using common swear words.
So there is a problem to define what is rude/offensive simple example..
> "Go and read a book"
> Hell that seems like a crappy way to approach the problem
ecc...
 
8:02 AM
@PetterFriberg If they're occasional swear words used to add spice or punctuation to a sentence, I'd rather you didn't, but I won't really do anything about it.
Personal attacks or insulting remarks, swear words or no, are a big no-no to me.
"Go read a book" implies that the person you're talking about is stupid or uneducated and they should not program until they've educated themselves.
 
@halfer you are right. maybe if I changed my display name for a period of time as Experiment I will notice a difference in the manner of dealing with me and Evaluation of my contribution to the community.
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@MohammadOghli That would be most interesting :-)
 
@MohammadOghli if you do a document experiment like that, it will be much more appreciated on meta. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296339/…, log what's happening, change name and avater and present result.
 
You might have to learn the linguistic "tells" that give away users of (say) Indian English, there's quite a few of them.
 
@MohammadOghli personally I wouldn't treat you any differently than if your display name was user123456, Mohammad, Frank, Phil or Natalie etc. I don't care about who asked the question or where they are from. I care about the content. I wonder if I'm treated differently because I'm called Bugs and my avatar is of Bugs Bunny.
 
8:10 AM
I think the point @Bugs is that you would not intend to treat a person differently, but you still might.
As a white Briton who is concerned about these sorts of things, I worry that I might as well.
 
@PetterFriberg yes I am thinking of doing this experiment It will be helpful.
 
Nice, feel free to ping me when your done (passed a meta), It will be very interesting to see the result.
 
@halfer All those guys named Joe posting bad questions really get on my nerves ;)
 
@halfer I also think I do not not make any difference, I just notice on these --^, I did not check who was the poster, hence you read the question and close (it's not like you read the question, check the user avatar and close), but yeah it can be an interesting experiment.
 
@DalijaPrasnikar heh!
 
8:20 AM
@halfer I treat everyone the same based on their content. If they ask a bad question they get told to look at the help links. If they perceive that as negative feedback because of their race, religion, location, display name or avatar that's on them not me.
 
Bad content is bad content... if someone posts decent question, but just has trouble with English, spelling correction will do... but you just cannot fix everything
 
@PetterFriberg: I would argue that some discrimination occurs at a subconscious level, so no person can insist they are free of it.
 
@halfer I too am a white Briton and live but 30 minutes away from what happened two days ago. Emotions are raw but I won't treat anybody differently because of it.
 
Yes @Bugs, most people think they are completely even-handed. But in a world where discrimination is commonplace, it is hard to unlearn these behaviours completely. I don't think I am discriminatory either, but I close an awful lot of questions written in Indian English.
 
@halfer Yes true, that's a common factor with bad content.
 
8:24 AM
I guess my question (to myself) is how many steps is it before seeing questions in Indian English makes me think they are closeable? Rhetorical question, mostly!
I was at the Birmingham vigil last night, we unfortunately had a crazy person turn up with a baseball bat and an axe.
It was pretty clear he was dreadfully ill, sadly :-(
 
@halfer That's sad to hear. I did want to go to Manchester last night but was told it was so busy we wouldn't get in so passed. When I listened to the radio, streets were jammed with people.
 
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Q: Next [target] for the burnination posse

Lundintarget is a completely ambiguous tag. According to the tag wiki this was supposedly meant to be related to make files. But the current tag usage is incredibly broad, containing everything from HTML to microcontroller flash programming. The tag isn't helpful for searching, categorizing or anythin...

 
8:54 AM
My custom flag family has already 5 little flags. The oldest is already 5 weeks old :P
 
Aww. Come on mods, show a little love to those cute little flaggies :-)
 
9:31 AM
@Floern suggest edit on that...
 
9:56 AM
"Morning" \o
 
\o
 
\o
 
Also contains an A which is link-only and could be comment only
 
can it be sent to vlq after it is accepted by OP?
 
10:01 AM
IDK
 
@suraj It can't if it's got a positive score. If it's 0 or negative scoring it can be flagged as VLQ.
 
@Bugs even if it is accepted and a negative score?
 
@suraj Yes I believe so. The answer has now been downvoted so I have now been able to flag as VLQ.
 
I did as well.. depends on whether it can be deleted.
 
10:06 AM
@kayess Yes
@suraj Once the question has been closed I guess they it will be eligible for deletion if people were so inclined.
 
@suraj remember that you can flag link only answers as NAA as well, the only issue is that if OP updates you need to retract the flag manually.
 
ok.. thanks
 
The difference between NAA and VLQ is basically only that VLQ flag get cleared if answer is edited, while NAA needs to be edited from review to clear flag.
the difference of meaning.... no one on SO knows this :D, just lots of speculation...
 
@PetterFriberg That is certainly true
 
some meta explaining, discussing and making a FR related to the flags meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318952/…
 
10:24 AM
Went VLQ with this stackoverflow.com/questions/44155391/… but can't seem to retract that flag...
 
10:40 AM
Plop !
 
\o
By capturing this in the Suggested edits queue stackoverflow.com/questions/4068414/… , do we flag/close it as off site resource?
The amount of crap coming in today is insane : (
 
10:56 AM
@kayess It's never ending. So much rubbish comes through.
@Kyll o/
 
@Yam NO!!!
 
@kayess just flush more often...
 
@Yam indentation, random bolding, useless tag. Leave closed.
 
and get some rep so you can reach the "let me flush handle"
 
This toilet has automatic flushing, but it doesn't always trigger - and even if it does, it does so with a significant delay. There's also a terminal for manual flushing, but it requires five keys and it jams after ten uses.
 
11:09 AM
@JanDvorak And sometimes it flushes in the wrong direction?
 
only if someone calls the sewage company that they left a diamond in their poop. Not that they did leave a diamond in their poop, mind you...
 
@PetterFriberg on it! I have arrived to a new state! Getting Petter'd
 
Yeah last time you posted a community wiki, stop that! :D, steal reps from others whatever is legit, just as long as you can reach the flush handle
 
all the flushing really makes me wonder whether getting 10k rep is worth it :\
 
beeh you get some real flush capacity
 
11:12 AM
all the flushed stuff becomes visible all the time
 
well true only for answers, the questions you will not see if you don't have direct link
 
I don't even see most undeleted questions, thankfully :-D
 
@Rizier123 Just a core family
^ I'm going with unclear for the question
 
waffle
 
11:18 AM
20k+
 
@PetterFriberg : D
 
@FireAlarm no-mvce
 
Morning
 
@FireAlarm too broad
unclear
 
11:45 AM
Answer has been removed now so question will Roomba ^ (I can't delete the request)
 
LOL, Idjit who?, your are the one talking to a bot, friend
 
@PetterFriberg It would be funny if Natty responded with random comments (although I appreciate it wouldn't be useful and would probably be consider rude).
 
Yeah we like to have the bot running so probably better to not pass random auto-comments :D
 
grrrr.. mods sniping smokey reports
 
I know who it is, I know where he lives.... :P
 
12:28 PM
what I do have are a very particular set of flags, flags I have acquired over a very long career. flags that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my spam go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will flag all the thingz
 
sounds like targeting a user :p
 
FWIW flag anyone all day all you like, as long as you don't tell us
 
@NathanOliver who is that Will?
 
@PetterFriberg we will never know ;)
 
12:45 PM
sd k (quick quick before mod)
 
rene is the Steven Segal of SO. Just snap the neck close the thing and move on
 
Stevel Segal?
 
@NathanOliver Sorry. That's his younger brother. He just farts in your general direction
 
lol
Oh, so that was the french guy on the wall in Search for the Holy Grail
 
1:09 PM
@NathanOliver The French already had a grail. They were not searching for another one.
 
whats your friends name?
 
user3956566
@suraj Penny :)
 
heyyo @YvetteColomb
 
user3956566
hi \o
 
1:20 PM
@Bugs by API he means a function, not a library
 
@Bugs I think that is contrained enough to be okay.
 
@JanDvorak ah my bad. Read it wrong.
 
@suraj POB
 
yeah... sorry.. have seen too many of those
 
No need to apologize. ROSR works as well.
 
1:28 PM
can this meta link be added to the SOCVR auto comments script? too many homework question dumps..
 
You can make a pull request to add it.
afk
 
1:44 PM
^ cv-pls
 
1:57 PM
I've got a contributor who insists on using man*hour as a unit of person time. I've removed the asterisk from a few of them, and he/she keeps putting them back. Anyone heard of this before? It is bloody irritating, but I wonder if I might give way, since it's a minor blip in the scheme of things.
Ah, I wonder if the asterisk is meant to be "multiply" in this case? That would at least make some sense.
 
2:17 PM
@halfer The * as multiplier would make sense, yes. Not that when you multiply those two numbers you get anything useful but that is another discussion
But in the English/American command/control management style they 100% believe that is an accurate number to base fixed deliver dates on, to the minute ...
 
Any idea what commenter means here as "one page answer" ? stackoverflow.com/a/44136664
 
@kayess No not a clue, that's confused me.
 
@kayess I think they mean the question is too broad to have a good answer...
 
@rene hmm yeah that might be it : )
 
@rene: alright, thanks - I will leave these be then. WIkipedia disclaims all knowledge of this format!
 
2:26 PM
You would think that with their rep they would know better than to answer questions that they believe to be too broad with a link. Commenting would have been much more appropriate.
 
@Bugs I assume the OP has knowledge and wants to put a decent warning out. Just close and let it be roomba-ed
 
@rene yeah have vtc
 
vtc -- vote trade center : o
 
3k stuff @kayess :P
 
@PetterFriberg ye ye, just don't tell rene-plz
 
2:32 PM
about your wiki answer?
 
@PetterFriberg ssshhhtt!
 
@NathanOliver @πάνταῥεῖ the closing of a question by the two of you is brought up on MSE. Please check if you have anything to add on Servy's answer.
 
@rene Nothing to add but thanks for the heads up.
 
yw
 
2:57 PM
@rene you are right, answerer guys commented again stackoverflow.com/a/44136664
 
When you think your current period data usage is 56GB
for the past month. And it turns out to be for the past 10. =w=
 
@Compass hiya \o Just checked your avatar, and I can tell that cat is too fat to fit Schrödinger's box :\
 
Pusheen is not too fat.
Pusheen is in-bread cat.
 
Oh, resolution might be too low for my eyes
 
@SmokeDetector f edited
 
3:07 PM
 
@Olaf Meh, looks OK to me.
 
@SmokeDetector f, strange...
 
@NathanOliver So stating an segfault on code not shown is fine? Hmmm.....
 
@Olaf They show the code. There is enough there for any competent programmer to give them their answer.
 
3:22 PM
Not exactly. That is about running out of stack space. The Original is about running out of heap space. There really is no way to fix that besides allocating less memory.
 
@PetterFriberg Definitively not. 1) This is C++. 2) (worse) Your's uses an aautomatic variable, not malloc. Read the comments, OP does intentionally ignore a null pointer (e.g. fault result) from malloc.
But none of this is shown in the question.
 
maybe this last try (I'm java guy no idea about c) stackoverflow.com/questions/3815232/… darn there needs to be a dupe for that....
 
@NathanOliver @NathanOliver: I feel a bit offended by you implying I'm not a competent programmer. There are various potential problems with the text as shown.
 
Nathan find a dupe quick :D
 
@Olaf Sorry if you felt that was what I implied. That was not my intention. You know what the problem is so I was lumping you into the competent programmer group.
 
3:27 PM
In what group am I lumped?
 
Random flower
 
Flowers with too much power ;)
 
flower power
 
guys what do I eat for lunch this time :V
 
@rene reply hazy. Try again
 
3:39 PM
@NathanOliver I have various idea. Mostly from the comments, which is not acceptabel. OP has been requested to provide a mcve, but did not. Eventually all boils down to "iI did ignore the messages from the system, why does it not do what I want?"
 
ಠ_ಠ​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍
 
i wonder
 
@PetterFriberg It's spreading
 
Yeah I tried to convince him to stop, but yeah with little success... chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=37170230#37170230 :D
 
What is lunch?!
ಠ​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍人ಠ​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍
 
3:47 PM
@Compass Mice?
 
I've been to Nando's twice this week already
Monday and Tuesday to be exact.
Should I make it thrice? Or try out those naked chips from Taco Bell?
 
third times the charm
 
@Compass Try the Chicken Star (crunchwrap with naked chicken chips)
 
Careful, you might end up as round as that cat
 
Surprisingly enough, my diet has reduced my weight by...
9 pounds
My diet of burgers, chicken, burrito bowls, and chips.
 
3:56 PM
:==O
 
I believe it is because I am secretly an imploding kitten and I store all of the food in a pocket dimension.
 
Ooh. Are we still in the expansionary phase, or are the kittens heading for a big crunch?
 
4:45 PM
Folks. I am thinking of writing up a meta question to consider a change to how questions are posted for new users. I would like to see a two-page posting system, where the first page is just as it is now - a title and a body, plus the usual prompts about disallowed content. The second would scan the page for known problematic phrases (like the FireAlarm) and would offer items of advice on how it can be tidied up.
The advice would be optional and the question can still be posted as is, but I think it would encourage some editing prior to posting, and would reduce downvotes and the initial "hostile" experience. I think it would significantly reduce the editing burden as well.
Any feedback here? Anyone think it would not accomplish any of those goals, for example?
I reckon users of 1K+ could be switched back to the one-page system, but that's fine tuning.
 
Yes, like that :-)
Did that include some sort of scanning system to look for specific problems? It sounds like you're just getting users to agree to a disclaimer in this proposal?
My suggestion is a stack of regexs or other system to specifically seek out LQ signals.
Txtspk, begging, being new to SO, hopes that you can help, salutations, regards, sigs - there's probably quite a few that could be added to this list.
 
@Compass you should buy this: store.dftba.com/products/cat-cat-shirt
 
^ There is even a piece of toast in the tail @gunr2171!
 
5:09 PM
eats a chicken
 
5:35 PM
I've flagged a question as a dup. Another user commented that my dup choice was wrong, and flagged a better dup target. Should I retract my dup vote, and delete the "possible dup" comment, or leave it alone?
 
@AJNeufeld you can leave it, as long as at least 3 members will vote for the better dupe. The majority wins
 
@rene Thanks.
 
yw
 
fite!
 
5:49 PM
@Queen k
 
6:02 PM
@halfer Yeah nice, I'm also convinced new user needs a better interface to ask question (they need help), when I was new to SO I posted this meta, not a great success since I was to focus on the mcve problem, but yeah you can have fun reading it if you are in to this problem.
 
6:17 PM
Is FireAlarm an AI, or is there a formalized method for determining the badness of questions?
 
Thanks @PetterFriberg. I'm surprised that Meta Q was DVed, I thought anything that would reduce the flood of LQQ would be popular
 
meeh meta is meta.. it depends how you start out...
 
@PetterFriberg Neato burrito. I thought I had seen this before, but wasn't sure.
 
but there are some nice answer and comments, it created some interest
@halfer I think the example in the meta was to focus on the mcve problem (debugging questions), that SO hates that's why dv'ed
 
6:26 PM
@VoteToClose is it ironic that you don't have 3k reputation and your name is "vote to close"?
 
@gunr2171 Not on StackOverflow, maybe. ;)
 
ah, 7k on codegolf
 
I don't have the laser-like focus to answer questions on SO in time, nor do I have any questions that I can't resolve on my own (or am allowed to ask in some cases). SO kinda gets away from me. :P
 
that's no problem. I haven't been answering questions like I used to. I've been stalled at 5-6k for a while
inb4 someone digs up my image
 
@gunr2171 Maybe bring your laptop to your meetings and do something useful?
 
6:46 PM
Gah, yet another new user with an O/T closed question who gets angry, flounces out of the room and deletes their Q.
:==(
This cat spends too much time on Stack Overflow.
 
@VoteToClose You can get more time by finding a lower-volume tag, or tags, (which can be a specialty of your main area) that doesn't have users answering FGITW style. This can give you hours, or days, to research an answer. You won't get lots of up-votes (low traffic), but there're lots of unanswered Qs. A higher % of such Qs tend to be interesting, not just quicky, obvious, RTFM Qs. The down-side is that the reputation/effort ratio is much lower than trying to compete in the FGITW game.
 
^ Another thing you can do is choose a tag you like, and give really detailed answers that explain your thinking or design ideas when solving the problem at hand. I just found a user who is writing really excellent SQL answers, and they're on around 200 rep at the moment.
 
7:06 PM
@Makyen Yeah I really agree it with this and to tell the truth over time you get the votes, since your answers is found by other, basically all my rep if from low-traffic tags
 
7:38 PM
Is this a programming problem or just a general computing question? (Whether some programming related tool can be set to always-on-top)
 
@Adriaan I tend to lean SU for those. The question is more of "Why is Windows doing this?" as opposed to using the software for coding
 
@Machavity That's my thought as well. It's just that it is a "tool used for programming", which might make it kind-off on topic for SO
 
@FireAlarm might actually be OK...?
 
@Adriaan Yeah that's the kind of question's I answer in my low-traffic tag... general, no debug my code stuff
@kayess did you forget to flag this stackoverflow.com/a/44152548/5292302 :D, I have never seen an answer stay for 9 hours with NAA flag...
 
Hello!
 
8:06 PM
@FireAlarm & @Adriaan, Looks like it's likely OT to me. While it's possible the OP is asking how to write a program to accomplish the task (with language unspecified), it's more likely they are looking for tools, which is OT. I've left a comment asking which they are looking for.
 
@PetterFriberg Neat, thanks! @Jan BTW I think I'll add a poof command now
 
 
2 hours later…
9:45 PM
Ha, the Swift compiler's type inference sure has fun with this:
let ids: [Int]

ids = [
    //raw message IDs as arguments
    arguments.flatMap { Int($0) },

    //transcript URLs as arguments
    try arguments.flatMap { try URL(string: $0).map(parseTranscriptURL) },

   //the reply ID
    [message.replyID].flatMap { $0 }
].reduce([], +)
^ takes almost 20 seconds to compile, while this:
let ids: [Int]

ids = (... as [[Int]]).reduce([], +)
takes less than a second
 
Ouch. Wonder if that would be considered a bug
If type inference in Swift was Turing Complete, they might not feel motivated to solve it (as you wouldn't be able to in general)
 
Not sure if it's considered a bug or not; just a really complicated expression
 
But doesn't it still have to check that the result matches the type signature anyway? Shouldn't that make it nearly as expensive in both cases?
 
flatMap, map, and reduce all have generic result types, so it has many possible combinations of types to try
 
Ah, so the specified type could reduce the combinations to try, that makes sense.
 
9:52 PM
Exactly
It's fast if I change ids to be an [[Int]] and remove the the reduce since it knows the array's result type
But reduce returns a generic type, it's a method on a generic type (Array), and + has a lot of overloads
So it has to try a lot of different types of the array in order to find a combination that satisfies the expression
afk
 
@NobodyNada Wouldn't this discussion be more appropriate in SOBotics, rather than SOCVR? If, in the future, I remembered that this was stated/shown, I'd be searching SOBotics for it, not SOCVR.
 
user1593881
10:21 PM
Hello.
 
\o
 
o/ (Night Owl)
 
user1593881
That I am.
 
@Makyen Meh, it's not really important or relevant to bot development; just a little thing I found slightly interesting and decided to share here
 
user1593881
10:40 PM
Opened a Github account yesterday. Best "Hello World" project ever. :P
 
10:53 PM
@RawN You can start forking mine ;-)
STTCL is still lacking a good build system
nmalyzer also, and there are still bugs
 
user1593881
I will do that as soon as there was Panta Rhei & associates gmbh.
 
user1593881
;)
 
@RawN I expected such response ;-)
BTW it would be probably "You can't tip your toe LTD"
 
user1593881
Or "Yeah, Raw N was keep telling me this will work and now that it does we make a ton of cash and I regret I didn't start earlier."
 
user1593881
...gmbh
 
user1593881
11:00 PM
Joking aside, I am patrolling the Github for some good stuff.
 
@RawN Hmmm. GitHub is full of awesome but also awkward stuff ...
E.g. like "The best Hello World program ever"
;-)
 
user1593881
haha
 
user1593881
Resembles SO in so many ways. Recently I was told by a high rep user that "unlike Java everything in C++ is object".
 
user1593881
Still digesting that one.
 
11:22 PM
Is this also considered rude in that particular case?
 
@RawN Wait, there's non-objects in Java?
I kinda figured they'd be something like this.is.not.really.an.object.yet.it.is
 
user1593881
@Machavity Judging by a certain 100+k c++ user there isn't.
 
user1593881
@Machavity Must have been a bad hair day for him.
 

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