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11:00 AM
Oh boy....
Can someone tell me what the difference between the UNIX and Windows line is supposed to be?
 
@Seth ; and : :P
 
yes ^
 
Ahh
Thx
 
I feel empty
I reached repcap for today
That hasnt happened in almost 3 months
 
All from docs ?
 
11:10 AM
Yea
 
On the way to 10k...
 
@Tunaki I got 800 rep over the weekend
So .... kinda
 
Sam
@Magisch 'twas two years for me.
 
I guess
I have a feeling they're gonna make changes that will make me lose all of it
 
I made an edit to the Arrays topic... I'm probably going to hit it too, soon.
 
11:12 AM
At least I got 4k from Q/A so that if I get hit by that, I'm not hit too hard
@Tunaki I made this one
And then some 1k user rolled it back (which was approved by a 300 user)
>_>
 
Already +30 in ~30 minutes...
 
There's nothing I've seen in docs that is not either pedestrian or a rehash of already excellent documentation available in the official docs, so I would not shed a tear if they completely pulled the plug on it.
 
There are VLA's and dynamic allocation in C
>_>
 
It is too much of an embarrassment for them now to know what to do with it
 
@TimCastelijns you're too kind
 
11:17 AM
@Louis I agree..
 
Sam
Hiya
 
ya'll forgot an exclamation mark, if you wanted to create a train :P
 
Morning
 
11:32 AM
Hey
 
@NathanOliver o/
 
Sam
Hiya
 
@Tunaki I'm neck-deep in shit today, after a while you just want the shit to go away, regardless of the bucket used
:)
 
I need a second opinion on this right here: stackoverflow.com/questions/38539128/…
 
unclear
 
11:38 AM
The question is shit, the question is off-topic, and deserves to be closed & deleted, but there's another thing (it's spammy).
 
@Seth Too broad/POB
 
i went tutor me
 
The users profile states that he's affiliated with "Lucidogen". Do you know if there's a connection?
 
Sudden burst of frustrated language there guys :)
 
Guys lets not swear. We don't need chat flags.
 
11:41 AM
 
@Seth It is not that obvious. If you think it is, maybe a custom flag would be better.
 
@Seth Its been deleted.
 
The github hosting Lucidogen has a sub Lucidity, and the contributor is the asker of this (stackoverflow.com/questions/38539128/…) ... -.-
 
@Seth from what I gather, I would say there is a high chance he is affiliated with the product, but oh well.
 
Oh, nice :] Thx
@TimCastelijns 100% now, it all comes together on his github.
 
11:43 AM
So basically he is saying, I found this thing, not sure if I should use it, oh yeah, gotta go to work there this morning
 
He also retweets everything they post
 
@PraveenKumar Looks clear to me. You even answered in the comments.
 
@Drew Yup... Scummy :/
 
@NathanOliver Well, although it looks clear, there's no option like Superflous to me... :P Something not possible.
 
@Drew or "Hey guys I made this, how do I use it?"
 
11:44 AM
So what reason will you give to CV this kind of questions?
 
@PraveenKumar That is a answer though. A answer doesn't have to be "yes there is and here is how...". No is a valid answer.
 
@NathanOliver Oh okay... I prefer not to answer the question and better close it before anyone else jumps in. So, would you wanna close it as well?
 
It can (and generally does) hide a X-Y question though.
 
not all questions have to be closed. Some warrant downvotes but not close votes
Some other way around
 
I feel it is clear so I am not going to vote. Could it be better or changed, yes. Does it need to be closed right now, no IMHO.
 
@PraveenKumar can PHP turn my NumLock light on?
 
@Tunaki IDK. Possible VLQ as that really should be text.
 
@Drew If it can fetch me £££ and some coffee, yes, it can turn. :)
 
@Tunaki would say so. "To add to the answer"
 
@NathanOliver I'd go with VLQ too.
 
11:48 AM
@Tunaki Commented.
 
Sure thing buzzing around
 
@NathanOliver I was wondering if the image was image of code yeah...
 
@Tunaki well, it's not
 
@Tunaki Kinda looks like code and a command but not really sure. Either way it should be marked up text instead of a image.
 
what the world. That was the gent from yesterday ^
like 30 minutes of wasted time yesterday
17 hours ago, by rene
Listen up @hubot this is the second time you stumble into this room and ask again to help you with things I already told you that we don't do question bans. I find it extremely rude that you ignore all advice and keep pressing on. This your last warning for this room. Respect our rules or leave.
Oh, it was an old question. Well that pretty much nuked the acct
 
12:01 PM
@NathanOliver its a python interpreter, the guy printed a dictionary with a bunch of data, then used 2 lines of code on it
 
@Drew Uh ... did I do something wrong? I might have been a bit grumpy ...
 
@rene Maybe a bit harsh, but perfectly fine.
Imo atleast.
If you tell someone off & they keep on asking/doing what you told them to stop..
 
@Seth I wouldn't call that harsh as that user was already told that question bans aren't discussed here.
 
Tell them off again, with more emphasis :>
@AshishAhujaツ The wording was harsh, but justified :o I'd call that harsh.
 
@TimCastelijns OK. Still would be better as not a image
 
12:06 PM
Dafuq...
 
 The reward for your every correct answer, is another question :)
 
@rene No, I think Seth inadvertently just fried the guys acct
 
How about no
 
@Drew yeah, that is true. But I was afraid that was going to happen when I saw the posts that were undeleted ....
 
@Drew What?
 
12:08 PM
He was teetering on a qban or already had one
 
Oh. I see. That was that guy. >.<
Sorry guy :/
 
Yeah, I know everybody is free to vote but there is no need from this room to push them back further. They came here for help, which they got. I would rather leave it then to the rest of the community to decide. cc @TheLostMind @QPaysTaxes
 
I was browsing new tags & found one on that question, checked it & flagged it after coming to the conclusion that it was bad >_>
I didn't know that this particular user visited the SOCVR-CR twice now asking for help with a question ban.
 
@rene - Sorry?
 
@Seth Yes, that is totally understandable and I don't blame anyone
 
12:14 PM
@Seth Why?
 
here is the timeline I am illiterate
 
@PraveenKumar I wrote "Dafuq" due to the SD report. The specified question had 20x "(Filler)" in it, apart from the (legit) code and question.
 
@Seth LoL. Wow.
 
@TheLostMind you hammered this but that user came here yesterday for help. I find it a bit needs correct word that members/regulars form this room close that question
I rather leave it to others in the community
Or we shouldn't have helped
But I think it is strange if you help out and then still smash the posts of that user
 
Well, to my defense, I had no clue of what happened earlier.
:/
 
12:17 PM
I'm not blaming anyone @Seth
 
I know, just saying
 
I'm just trying to salvage a bit of our credibiity
 
Well, the problem with that is two-parted.
 
It is?
 
The main focus of the SOCVR-CR is - as far as I understand it - keeping the site clean, discussing conventions etc etc etc.
 
12:20 PM
@rene - I understand. But if we allow such questions to be open, we could potentially end up with some NAAs. We will all have to live with our "bad posts". I've been there myself. Not that I disagree with your opinion, I believe we don't want people in SOCVR asking "please don't CV my posts, I could get Qbanned".
 
The other problem is that we will never be one unit.
So if some people of the SOCVR decide to help one user out, and go a bit less harsh on him
And the others do not know that
They might make it seem like we helped at first, but later on decided to nuke the user anyway.
Which is not how it went down, but leaving this impression in some cases is almost inevitable.
 
OK, fair enough
 
If you look at the history, IMO the Qban was long impending stackoverflow.com/users/4598557/hubot?tab=questions
 
The problem with this particular user - sorry rene - is that he's not a bad user
Atleast not as bad as many others
His answers are not terrible, and none of them are downvoted (cannot see deleted ones, <10k)
 
we can't easily see em either
 
12:24 PM
The only problem is that he apparently never asked questions with restrictions before.
 
he apparently didn't acquire any DV on the question in the last 11 hours if my read is right
 
I think they should only have had links to their deleted posts and the advice to read ask and the checklist
 
@Drew Now I feel bad >.<
I'll try & improve his questions
 
@seth I think I just said if my read is right, the last hour didn't drag him down
 
Anyway, I made my point, I pinged a mod, my day is complete
 
12:26 PM
@Seth - I've tried looking into em.. Not too much to improve if you ask me.. But you could try it :)
 
@TheLostMind Atleast the titles >.< "I cannot create application".
 
forgot the link :P
 
@rene - Then @AshishAhujaツ and @kayess have completed 4 days today :)
 
@TheLostMind lemme complete the fifth one then :P
 
12:29 PM
:D
 
The question on his mom's smartphone. Non-salvage quality. It is hopeless. Even with hope, then what? Can't market them for anyone to undo the votes
 
@Drew - My point exactly
Anyways, we should probably stop talking about a particular user
 
Yeah, we have done what we can
 
^^ - right
 
Meh.... I was able to edit one question & I'm not happy with that edit either... Those questions are just simply OT, nothing to do ._.
@TheLostMind Oops, sorry.
 
12:36 PM
@Seth - :)
 
bye o/!
 
laterz
 
@NathanOliver that ^ is more your piece of cake
 
cc @πάνταῥεῖ too
Plop!
 
wait no I said nothing
 
1:04 PM
@rene IT is open now.
 
magic
 
I just ruined my rep -.-
 
You posted in Haskell?
 
dangit Tim
 
1:24 PM
@rene No, edit got approved. Been sitting at 554 for over a month now.
 
Er POB or wild broad or ? stackoverflow.com/questions/38568974/… cc @Tuna
 
gone, owner deleted
@Seth lol
 
meh ok
 
As if I need to explain myself about pictures in posts stackoverflow.com/questions/38550481/…
 
1:35 PM
Thanks @NathanOliver and @rene :) bye!
 
@Wolf No problem. Feel free to come back if you need any other moderation help/guidance.
Or if you just want to hang out
 
@Wolf and don't forget to use all your close votes each day. If you have a hard time finding posts, we have plenty ;)
 
50 close votes a day keep the bad posts away!
 
Are you discussing here only on close and reopen requests?
 
1:38 PM
close, reopen, delete, undelete, edit suggestions. Pretty much the full moderation suite.
 
ah, I found socvr.org
 
Woot
 
thanks!
 
we chatter along ....
 
np
Asking for algo so it is OK, right?
afk
 
1:42 PM
Hey @Kyll
Have you witnessed the repocalypse?
 
@NathanOliver hmm, maybe a bit broad?
 
back
 
wtf
 
@rene OK. I can see that
 
1:54 PM
Under the current system, Jon Skeet could propose an edit and a 150 rep user could reject it
:D
 
stick it to the man
 
@Magisch Under the current system we can have 2 Jon Skeets ... soon
 
Nah, Martijn doesn't do so many doc edits;)
 
this kind of looks like snakes in a plane... just that it isn't funny when you say it
 
@rene Catching up with the Jon is probably going to be difficult since he earns on average 225+ reputation a day
 
1:57 PM
@Magisch Plop
Not really
 
@Magisch well if some other rep capper floods docs, with no doc edit rep cap in place, it's possible
unlikely, but possible
 
@Magisch yes, but the unfairness of that will soon end, once I posted my meta rant about that
 
@Tunaki done
 
@rene I'm looking forward to it being shot down on sight
oh, you're being sarcastic
 
cheers
 
1:59 PM
@AndrasDeak a bit more trust in the flower
 
rene can make a rant that gets upvoted. The force is strong with the flower.
4
 
Sorry, it's hard with all your lacking facial expressions and other non-verbal communication (on account of being a part of plant life)
 
@AndrasDeak it can be worse, you can't see fungi expressions either, imagine yourself trying to see the expressions of the reproduction apparatus of a fungi
 
I'd rather not imagine myself like that
 
Sam
Damn, my eyes.
I made the mistake of looking at so.docs again.
The horror.
 
2:09 PM
RIP Sam
 
RIP Sam
 
2013 - 2016
Never forget
 
@Sam I know how you feel. I did a bad reject the other day as I didn't notice some good changes but just saw a bad change in the same edit
 
He was brave enough to look the evil in the face... But it altered him irreversibly :(
 
Sam
2:11 PM
@NathanOliver :(
 
Alright, I'll stop here >.< Been busy bashing docs for too long now.
 
Sam
@Seth Thankfully us bots can easily replace broken parts.
I think so.docs is gonna be the new PHP for a while in this room. If that's possible.
 
@Sam LoL... Are you alive?
 
Are you serious? I'd choose a life full of php programming over spending a day/week on docs (as it is right now).
@Sam alive
 
@Seth True that.
 
2:14 PM
In the beginning there was PHP and it was lonely. SO saw this and proclaimed that PHP shall have company. Thus Docs was created.
8
 
@Sam coffee
 
Sam
@Seth I don't want to go on the cart!
 
@NathanOliver aww
 
Aight, Sam's fixed :]
@NathanOliver Starring that.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver brb, copying to socvr-poetry.
 
2:15 PM
:)
 
2:28 PM
you remember that thing that I said back then... apparently some people are wising up
 
@Braiam Next meta post is rolling in: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/329437/3933332
 
@Braiam Seems to be what everyone (?) in the SOCVR-room thought of docs since release :P Well, since 2 hours after release (when the whole rep-business started)
 
Woot upgrading MSVS to the newest update. More standard compliance FTW.
 
@NathanOliver MSVS?
Oh nvm
Nvm nvm nvm
 
2:34 PM
Don't crucify me please
 
@Seth When I started to try it out in the closed beta I already stopped after like 20 minutes and it was pretty bad. But now it is [create a new word for worse than worse] in the public beta.
 
MS VS may be more understandable for you @Seth
 
@Rizier123 Yep..... Sadly ._. Like I said, I was really excited for it
@Braiam Ik ik :D
 
@Braiam SO is preventing us from answering that question. Because if you want to address all issues in one answer you get: 30k char limit :P
 
2:38 PM
@NathanOliver Ah ok
Can you get a question ban on meta? o.o
Like, an automatic one?
 
I have no idea. Why do you ask?
 
is way lower than main
 
@Seth I think so yeah. It's common to see Q-banned SO folks try their luck on MSO
So I'd guess they added Q-ban on MSO too
@JarrodRoberson Please do use actual close reasons - in that case, "unclear"
 
@Kyll That's pretty funny :o How do you get one? Surely you have different criterias, eh?
 
@Seth No idea
 
2:41 PM
Downvotes wouldn't make sense as Meta has votes solely for showing agreement or disagreement.
 
I'm going to spend all my comments votes, upvoting comments that I couldn't vote yesterday...
 
Whereas votes on main are supposed to reflect the quality of questions/answers
@Braiam Determined :D
 
@NathanOliver Ahh thx :D
 
3:02 PM
Plop again!
 
o/
 
@PetterFriberg k :)
 
: ), had custom comment....
 
I should try working on a hammer... Or getting over 1k rep to begin with ... D:
So much to do, so little time x_x
 
@Seth that'd be good
 
3:06 PM
@TylerH What, hammer or 1k rep? :o
 
@Seth go directly for hammer ; )
you would be the first <1k hammer
 
you can actually have a hammer without having 3k
 
@PetterFriberg That's sadly not possibruh :(
Except.... Hell yeah!
I'll get a hammer, and then I'll advertise my hammer-service.
I will get spam-nuked multiple times
And at the end I will be a 1-rep-hammer-wielder
ô.ô
Masterplan?
 
@Seth well, 1k
you can't reliably get a hammer with less than 1k rep
 
3:12 PM
@TylerH Read my master plan :3
 
you'd have to intentionally lose 556 rep at least at this point
 
Granted, I will hit 1k rep during the process
But I can loose that later on, eh? :P
 
@Seth You could bounty it all away and become a 3k hammer wielder. You still need close vote privs to use your hammer.
 
@TylerH unless rep caps
 
@NathanOliver Oh :(
 
3:15 PM
@NathanOliver you can't flag as a duplicate and then have it auto close?
hmm, we must test this
for science
 
@TylerH idk about that. I am not willing to test that out ;)
 
@TylerH you mean for !!SCIENCE!!
 
Anyone using the new nav? I need some help to check for a bug. Head to the testing facility if you wish to help (click my name to access it)
 
@Kyll Eh?
You need to ask that?
 
..?
 
3:19 PM
@Kyll Don't enter the nest of @Kyll . It is dangerous!
 
@Kyll Is anyone not using the new nav at this point?
It's been available for like over a year
 
@TylerH I had to wait 6-8 years to get it
 
Heh, yeah
 
that's true, considering it's been 6-8 years since the site started
so technically everyone had to wait 6-8 years to get it
 
Lmao.
How dare you make my sillyness sound reasonable :/
 
3:25 PM
@TylerH I believe there are still people not on it. It is still an option that you need to opt in in the site preferences to get the new nav. Not sure if they are auto enrolling new members.
 
@TylerH Me? :p
 
@JonClements Get it :D It's a bit buggy, but hella awesome!
 
I can find what I want and do what I need without it... so I'm not fussed :)
2
 
need 200 answers in a tag to schlammer in it
 
@JonClements Ahh c: I like to try (and break, if possible) stuff at any given moment :P
@Drew schlammer? ô.ô
 
3:33 PM
I need to make text search more difficult for the foe
 
schlammer... hammer? :o
 
200 positively scored or some jazz like that
in grade school, 0 is a positive number
 
No it isn't o.o
Not where I live atleast
We learned negative numbers, positive numbers, aaaaaaand 0. The outsider.
 
In a ones compliment system you can have +0 and -0.
 
must have been home schooling. btw my mom was my prom date
 
3:38 PM
good morning/afternoon/night/twilight/dawn
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Hi o/
 
wow... my answer is score 12/0 on MSO... I'm impressed
yeah, why I was talking... now is 11/1
shoot! someone is messing with me in this room!
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis @Tunaki you have a dh for this one? stackoverflow.com/q/38571920
 
Like 2 to 3 forName questions a day
 
3:46 PM
@Drew Wait. Is that the issue or is just typo for driver resource name: jdbc/SpringPractise4 instead of dataSource="jdbc/database1"?
 
idk I honestly read the title ad rolled my eyes (as it had mysql too)
we could tack on a one prior to the dh of another
 
dupe hammer
 
meta.stackoverflow.com/q/329459/3933332 I know such a post would come :P
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis it would appear to be a plain jane tomcat not in WEB-INF issue at first blush
I plopped a dupe target as a close vote, maybe someone wants a different one
 
3:59 PM
@Drew I'm going to refrain from voting on that one.
 
np
 
yeah me too, can't test the set-up right now
 
it's never a pretty one. Plus the it brings up the class loader, the forName, the versions
 
@Tunaki Concerning that rude behavior from the other day with DVs on posts of ours, my vote was reversed (i had edited the answer). Did they remove yours?
 
4:11 PM
Would you guys flag this post? If so, what category?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis nope I didn't edit though
 
I had left a super passive aggressive comment on my edit
 
@FrankerZ I voted to close as unclear. Too broad would also be a good option, imo.
 
what does "sd k" mean?
 
@dorukayhan that the post was spam/abusive
 
4:17 PM
@dorukayhan Bot command. Lets it know it was dealt with
 
Night o/!
 

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