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7:00 PM
Can't stop watching turkey fryer fires!
Yee-haw!
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I guess I'm against it, hence the question. I just noticed it on meta and it made me think. As an aside, I think it should be undeleted, just not the the OP gets a vote.
 
7:12 PM
@DavidG So why do you feel the OP shouldn't get an undelete vote?
 
@NathanOliver Because OP has a bias, a vested interest in keeping their post undeleted. All other delete/undelete votes are (should be!) given based on the content/quality of the post.
 
@Undo Some don't move on. I'm happy to chat with Vladimir, but since you deleted comments, perhaps you should. Let me know. stackoverflow.com/questions/1117967/what-does-mean/…
 
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@MsYvetteǝ I've messaged the user - the system will reverse the votes 3am
 
7:18 PM
@DavidG I can see that but we hope that everyone is unbiased. Also if the OP can't vote to undelete after that fix the deleted post then the only thing they could do is mod flag to get it back. I don't think we need to burden the mods with that. Besides if it isn't undelete worthy more than likely it will stay deleted.
sorry afk
 
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@JonClements yes he had a rage fit, and the funny thing was, I was being nice to him. People like that scare me tbh. If they're like that online, what are they like if they see you in person. It makes me lock down what's on my profile. And thanks.
 
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@Mogsdad I will never comment again to tell someone not to be rude.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW It's also so obvious it was them, I mean, their rep went down to match. Usually these people target questions though, not answers.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah, I just don't think you can assume an unbiased attitude to your own content. In this case, the OP didn't edit anyway, just cast a vote and two other people followed. I certainly don't think mods should get involved. Maybe a better fix would be to make OP vote not count, but still put it in the reopen queue.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Honestly most people are a lot nicer in real life than online. The reminder that there's an actual human being on the other side of the conversation tends to keep things civil. Also subtle things like body language and tone are lost online. Same reason road rage is a thing.
 
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7:22 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara yes it happened once before with a rage fit, and I said the user, I was just giving him feedback on his question (he downvoted all three people who commented - me the worst), and in the same comment praised him on the edit and his answer and said I had given him an upvote regardless.
 
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He then went and serially upvoted me another 10 posts! LOL
 
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It was all reversed
 
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@ryanyuyu I am extremely wary. Been at the ends of others rages on too many occasions and then you get those types who seek you out in real like or stalk you online.
 
Somehow I've managed to avoid serial-downvoting, which really surprises me seeing how many people I've seen it happen to.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Stalking (online or otherwise) is something totally different. I also try to make it harder for people to physically locate me. But I usually give people the benefit of the doubt online.
 
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7:26 PM
@ryanyuyu I'm deleting as much personal info as I can as we speak
 
@DavidG That could work. A simple rule could be 4 votes required if the OP votes.
 
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@AlexanderO'Mara it's certain personalities and I honestly think some men really don't react well to being corrected by women. Fortunately they are in a minority.
 
What you guys think of this "answer" stackoverflow.com/a/3605850/3001626
is linking a dupe as an answer serves any purpose?
 
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@DavidArenburg I regard that as a NAA
 
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It's not actually giving the OP any information without the link
 
7:31 PM
@DavidArenburg not an answer. Duplicate close for sure too.
 
@ryanyuyu I closed it like a year ago already
but thanks for the feedback
 
@DavidArenburg I would leave it alone. Yes it is NAA but since the Q is closed to the same dupe I doubt the link is going to break.
 
I'm surprised on the vote counts there
 
2010 standards
 
My thought exactly...
 
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7:32 PM
@DavidArenburg I read it like this
 
I wasn't active on SO then, but I hear things were much more lax
 
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> I found the solution here < this is some link address that may or may not give a clue as to where it is or what is in it > sorry for the inconvenience, thanks
 
2010 standards don't apply in 2016.
 
@NathanOliver @Undo deleted it.
 
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I think it makes a huge difference when you read posts without the link, it gives you a true feel of hoe useful a post is.
 
7:33 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW exactly. Except mine is < some link with questionably useful keywords >. Which is still NAA.
 
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I think Shog suggested that in one of his meta posts.. is it an answer without mark up
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Dang mods making the site better. When will the learn we want Waffles?
 
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@ryanyuyu exactly, and that's what tags are for, the keywords :D
 
@Undo thanks
 
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Mind you I've had very bad luck in what is regarded as NAA :D
 
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7:36 PM
oh no it's not gone!
 
@Undo btw congrats on being a diamond mod.
 
@ryanyuyu Thanks! :)
 
@Undo commiserations on being a diamond mod! :p
 
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@JonClements does being a mod isolate you a little from the community?
 
the non-meta-goers at least?
 
7:37 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW meh, I haven't noticed much isolation.
 
I don't think so... I still talk to the same people, enjoy the site as I always have, and I'm able to take the step back necessary (where necessary) to perform my role, and most people understand that :)
 
Although I didn't hang out in many chatrooms before anyway, so maybe I'm an outlier.
 
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@Undo that's good.
 
Mods certainly have better waffle compensation than us, mere mortals.
 
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@Undo I don't know about that, you strike me as the serious minded, down to business type, that likes to get things done :D
 
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7:39 PM
I don't think I'd like being a mod. Too much pressure
 
right?
 
@MsYvette not really that much pressure - but it all depends on your personality & temperament :)
 
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@JonClements yeh, you handle it very well, you're pretty easy going, yet strict at the same time, that's hard to pull off.
 
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@Tunaki flagged
 
I wouldn't be able to commit the necessary time to it. Also, with only 3k rep I'm un-electable.
 
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7:41 PM
It is indeed a question
 
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@ryanyuyu that will grow over time.
 
The time or the rep?
 
Hi again o/
 
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@ryanyuyu rep :D
 
greetings
 
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7:43 PM
@BhargavRao \o
 
\o\
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Ah that's a pity. 'Cuz more time would be excellent.
 
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@ryanyuyu we'd all like more of that :D
 
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@Tunaki was that the OP who deleted it again?
 
no
 
7:46 PM
Hum no it wasn't :D
 
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@Undo nice
 
Three guesses who did
 
Not Undo
 
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@Tunaki Jon? Madara? The Lost Mind? :D
 
Definitely not Undo, no no, never, no not him.
 
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7:46 PM
@BhargavRao so concise, more funny than mine
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Joel Spoolsky!
 
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@BhargavRao ooh a name I haven't heard for a while!
 
Jon Skeet.
 
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OK all, I've wound down after a night on my project, nice to see you all, going to Zzzzzzz
 
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\o
 
7:49 PM
o/
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW bye.
 
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@Undo keep up the good work and keep joining us for a chat :D
 
@ryanyuyu He deletes stuff, but I have never seen Joel delete anything :P
 
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@ryanyuyu \o
 
o/
 
7:51 PM
Another unrelated question - how do I attract @Shog9 to my Meta question if I can't offer a bounty on Meta?
 
offer @pp_ a bounty seems to work :p
 
You need to make the Shog dance.
 
@Tunaki teach me, master
 
@DavidArenburg You have already pinged him :/
 
@BhargavRao yeah, I was trying to be sneaky... Thanks
 
7:52 PM
@DavidArenburg Uh oh... did you ping "The Shog"!? :p
 
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
 
^ That summons the Great Shog.
 
lemme try that
 
@Tunaki I just thought that was the cheat code for SF2 ?
 
7:54 PM
@JonClements It has weird side effects. One of them is moving your furnitures around also.
 
Oh thank goodness for that - I thought I had poltergeist!
 
Mark a support question as bug, You'll get Oded's attention :P
 
healthy or unhealthy kind of attention?
 
He'll retag bug as support and leave
 
Ok, I want this to be implemented on this
 
7:58 PM
:(
 
Haha @BhargavRao I obsoleted your pun. Take that!
 
But unlike Tunaki I never get any responses from the Shog on my Meta questions
 
@DavidArenburg One clarification, Were there any questions that re-occured after yesterday's cleansing ceremony?
 
@BhargavRao There were some, but we handled them
Though I can't promise a permanent life support
This queue was around 1K questions not so long ago
 
@DavidArenburg Before coming up with a meta post. 1 Wait for a few days, collect a few questions. 2. Add those posts in your meta question, it'll have better results.
 
8:03 PM
@BhargavRao that's good advice :)
 
@BhargavRao not sure what you mean
the Meta questions is already there and I have linked a ~1K queue of these quesitons
 
Ty Jon!
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 5 seconds, averaging to a review every 5 minutes and 19 seconds.
 
or you mean to illustrate how they are being renewed?
 
@DavidArenburg Not like that ... Exactly ^^
 
8:04 PM
Hmmm. I do hope I'm setting a record here
 
@DavidArenburg If you see that the posts are continued i.e, the queue in your meta-post never gets empty, then go for a meta post.
 
But there is already a Meta post <sigh>
And we keep retaging those as for now, so nothing to show really
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier for the longest review times? I think your safe.
 
@DavidArenburg Hmm, Guess I need to explain more. You in GMTs?
 
@BhargavRao na, it's fine
 
8:07 PM
:/
 
@rene yep. does closey keeps track of all this, forever?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I think it does. It will be held against you as evidence when the NSA asks for it.
 
definitely can't wait ;-)
 
@rene and when you get waterboarded to death, your list of sins will begin with your review record
(maybe not)
 
the guy really reviewed a 100 times more posts than me most people whatever
 
pp_
8:15 PM
^ spam
 
@pp_ where?
 
@Drew That would be awesome! I would love another typescripter :)
\o evening everyone
 
Later guys
 
Laterz Nate
 
8:19 PM
bb
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier But remember... Closey counts votes in US, so it's like we're doing 30% more!
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
You do that Closey.
 
Tunaki passed an audit!
 
I vaguely think there's been a US politic joke just now
looking at Bush Jr. @Mogsdad ?
 
8:25 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I've been out-obliqued! What do you mean?
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Nah - exchange rate woes.
 
oh
lol @me
When Bush was elected, there had been a number of rumors, (some of them with solid ground) about how some votes had been tampered with, some people were prevented to vote, apparently some dead people voted too, that kind of things
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Florida and their voting card chits right?
 
ugh, memories are far away but this rings some bells yeah
 
> My question is not going to be very clear but I need to pointer to start with.
 
@Tunaki ha
 
8:32 PM
Someone is going on old Flask question and close-voting them all.
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
Hey How do y'all get 2 audits, whereas I get only 1 :/
 
@BhargavRao you're too trusted:(
fail a few every once in a while
that'll keep the system on its toes
 
Who the heck is flooding the CV queue with 4 year old questions?
 
I tried to fail one, one time. It just responded, "you're kidding"
 
8:36 PM
The worst part of all is that I actually disagree to close them!
 
@AndrasDeak Heh, Fail obvious audits
 
@Tunaki now that's something;)
 
4 hours ago, by Bhargav Rao
http://i.stack.imgur.com/tkOmP.png You know it is an audit when [turtle] is before [c++] :D
 
Guys, recently some company shut down their API.
Which was used by many people.
What was it?
 
8:38 PM
V --- That
 
Parse?
 
Sorry I am being very vague.
Thanks. It's parse.
 
\o/
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 17 minutes and 32 seconds, averaging to a review every 26 seconds.
 
Many thanks Closey.
 
8:39 PM
More like they said "Our business model was flawed. Sorry, cheap-wads"
So the cheap-wads gathered. Figured, where can we take our current problem? Oh, already members of SO. Let's take it there.
 
I wouldn't have said "used by many people" though. At least, I never used it.
 
@Tunaki something something "French the center of the world" ;)
 
Yeah. If the French don't use it, nobody does, or should.
 
pffff
to think that those chauvinist are actually our ancestors
 
9:16 PM
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
 
9:32 PM
hi o/
 
hi
 
Hello o/
 
Am I right that this is NAA, but a follow-up question on Jason Clark's anwer? stackoverflow.com/a/12711260/2675154
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 17 minutes and 36 seconds, averaging to a review every 26 seconds.
 
@honk o/
 
9:34 PM
> The only solution I've seen is to "Reset Contents and Settings..." in the iOS simulator to get back to a working state so I can work on other things.
 
@honk Yes.
 
that seems to be an answer, unless Jason already said that
no?
 
To me, it's just a long comment.
 
@Tunaki I also think so, but as @AndrasDeak says, it also seem to contain a little bit of an answer...
 
@honk answer to a question the OP is asking in their own post.
 
9:38 PM
is that also necessary?:P
 
afk
 
Suggested edit adds inline code format and requests additional examples from OP. What's the proper review option?
 
@OhBeWise REJECT <- with all letters in capital
 
@OhBeWise request --> reject.
 
I assume reject as Attempt to reply
Confirmed, thanks
 
9:50 PM
OP didn't request from themselves, so edit conflicts with author's intent
 
Time to sleep guys, Bye all o/
 
night
 
Keep the NATO strikes on!
 
Good night
 
Just don't invoke Article 5 :p
 
9:58 PM
Also need some sleep, cya!
 
Cya
 
@DavidArenburg explain the problem to me, please. Is there not some way of... I donno... Not using nearly-identical names for the tags?
 
I recommend the reading of Encryption By Analogy on The Daily WTF. As you may guess by the title, it's about the critical ongoing battle between the US government and Apple, and more particularly how some higher authorities seem to completely misunderstand what cryptography is and what the implications of the battle are.
Plop Shog! We're seeing you quite often these days.
 
@Shog9 That could be a possible solution that was already offered in the comments
 
@Kyll easier to drop in here than to drag you into the tavern
@DavidArenburg so... Let's do that then.
 
10:10 PM
I don't think I've ever been in the tavern...
 
10k limit for new tags?
 
Hiya @Shog o/
 
The problem in short- as you yourself noticed, two almost identical tag, while unrelated- keep being misstaged way too often
 
what the hell is ? It doesn't even have a wiki.
 
10:11 PM
I don't know neither....
 
@Shog9 part of it are pandas dataframes, but I don't think that really makes sense as a tag
 
I think pandas -> dataframes almost always
 
rename to pandas-dataframes, done.
 
@Shog9 we had to clear about 1K queue for +
 
Rob
Lots are just tagged python @Shog9 - This is problematic though stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/…
 
oh, that's 18k, sorry
something was off with my filter
 
Rob
Which seems to be an apache-spark thing too
 
dataframes is a thing in Apache Spark, can confirm.
 
@Shog9 Thanks =D
 
10:14 PM
But such a tag need not exist.
 
why not?
 
It's like having a tag for every class in an API.
 
and?
The alternate solution here is to just merge data.frame and dataframes and let the language / platform tag be the differentiating factor
 
Too meta for me. I don't see the point.
 
@Tunaki What's the point of any tag?
 
10:17 PM
Search / filter / follow
 
so...
 
what about the antonyms suggestion (in the posted answer)?
 
Searching for dataframes would be more effective by typing "dataframes" in the content of the post than having [dataframes]. I can't tell for this one but lots of tags for classes are inconsistently used, thereby making searching by the tag meaningless.
But this discussion is taking another turn now, what was the initial dilemma? :D
([dataframes] + [apache-spark] has 112 results while dataframes + [apache-spark] has 1721 results.)
 
so you are basically saying we can remove the tag
 
sigh my meta question is now being closed as a duplicate of a question i linked to that didnt have any answers at the time i asked my question. the guy who posted the new answer on the older question posted the first answer on my question: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/319031/…
 
10:28 PM
I don't know. I know that in the context of Spark, I don't see the point. But I can't tell for the other.
 
@cimmanon The solution is easy. Your question has more attention, traction, and content both question-wise and answer-wise than the other one. Temporal precedence is useless here. So: Reverse the relation!
Which you already pointed at in a comment
 
i really wish bounties werent disabled on meta
 
@cimmanon Woah, I don't want any kind of rep gain to go anywhere near Meta.
 
@Kyll bounties could be an exception
it wouldn't interfere with the status quo
besides advertising posts
 
@AndrasDeak It'll be abused then.
 
10:34 PM
@Tunaki I was going to ask "but how?", but people always find a way
usually multiple ways
 
Soon enough, every question will be bountied to "get more attraction".
 
limit it to questions with no answers?
 
What's wrong with the current system?
 
@cimmanon 4,871 questions with no answers. Introduce that and they will all be bountied :)
 
maybe they should get answers :p
 
10:41 PM
That's actually a lot. I wouldn't have thought there were that many!
Ha
"Only" 3,247 with no answers, not closed and not status-something.
 
11:02 PM
@cimmanon FYI, there are 2 dupe votes from your Q to the older one and 3 dupe votes from the older to yours :D
Which one will win? Place your bets.
Anyway, time to sleep. Bye all o/
 
11:19 PM
@Drew put that SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS question on hold
 
you have any schekel left for today? I have 12 cv4
 
Plop!
@Kyll Okay I understand, let me go to answer your question.
 
Plop and bonne nuit, I'm off to bed =p
 
lol, bonne nuit =p
 
@Shadow @FélixGagnon-Grenier I vtc'd on all the below:
batch030 count=12 cv4 is in the beehive
 
11:36 PM
@Drew went through the list, closed all but 2. I already voted on those 2
 
thx sir. You beat me to them (you dupe hunter you)
 
np
 
"The Dupe Hunter": sounds like it could be a TV series :p
 
yeah cricket and shadow are definitely dupe hunters
oh yeah. That's how I found them.
 
11:59 PM
Hey guys
 

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