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10:00 AM
went for that.
was the third.
 
Has there ever been some discussion / guidance over whether unhelpful duplicates, where unhelpful is a combination of lack of original content and SEO value should be deleted? I am wondering because of Madara's answer here.
 
in my understanding the "value" is in the dating; the newer dupe shows that the older original is still relevant. But that stems from something I read years ago, things change like an invisible ninja on SO in that time period.
 
Yes Kyll, to some extent in here
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Q: About significance of questions and whether or not they should be deleted

Tim CastelijnsSome 6 months ago I was given the privilege to cast delete votes on posts. I very rarely use my votes because in most cases I'm really not sure if a post deserves to be deleted, and I find it difficult to find information that clears this up. This morning we had somewhat of a discussion in the S...

 
@TimCastelijns There's a chart! There's a chart!
 
=) he made it himself
 
10:09 AM
@TimCastelijns So, in that case, we go to the third case of the chart (not hurting anything, but without any content value). Great!
 
Also read the text in the answers
Particularly I found this statement interesting
> save questions whose answers contain useful information that cannot trivially be found elsewhere and might be useful to others in the future
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns yes
 
There is no free hand circle. I don't know where to look. — Bhargav Rao 13 secs ago
 
@Tunaki, closed.
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao too Late! see the edit
 
10:14 AM
@BhargavRao There is now. Flagged as obsolete.
 
@BhargavRao flagged as obsolete
@Kyll highfive
 
@TimCastelijns highfive
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig why
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig f
 
@MadaraUchiha Why did you think that this question was unclear? You may have seen it from this message. Note that I'm not familiar with the tech, so I can't really know if it's clear or not. We had a discussion about it over in the Ministry. Just curious =p
 
10:24 AM
@Kyll, It is not unclear, imho, hence my wondering. The user just didn't get the concept of other-than-http-multithreading.
 
user3956566
@Kyll I voted to reopen, it looks straight forward to me
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW, I did follow you. Didn't want to counter a mod action before.
(since the question didn't change contentwise since it was closed by a mod not to hilight.)
 
... Lookidat, you're 3k now!
 
user3956566
@SmokeDispenser it doesn't matter who the user is or the rep, we need to each vote according to our own judgement, everyone makes mistakes
 
@Kyll, yeah, since friday. how could I see the cv count otherwise?;)
 
10:28 AM
@SmokeDispenser I didn't make the connection
I'm still under 3 coffees today
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW, that must have been clear for the mod. so clear my original question did not get an answer but a ninja mod close.
 
Nice bounty reward
 
@TimCastelijns, @Drew is to thank.
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns ?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW, my 3k rise.
 
10:31 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW are you implying The Skeet is capable of making mistakes? He better not hear you say that
 
@SmokeDispenser You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 8 seconds, averaging to a review every 3 minutes and 19 seconds.
 
thanks for stalking @Closey
 
G'day!
 
user3956566
@kayess hi
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW \o
 
10:35 AM
@kayess Hiya o/
 
@kayess Holla o/
 
Hello kayess
 
Hiya @Tuna @Bhar @Tim \o/
 
Plop @kayess!
 
@kayess plop
 
10:36 AM
@Kyll \o
@SmokeDispenser o/
 
@kayess - Olo
 
@BhargavRao [:29345796] Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.
 
Spam going on on that page: stackoverflow.com/questions/34898129/… . FLAG ALL THE GARBAGE AS RUDE!
 
@Kyll sd done
 
@kayess You do not have the privileges necessary to run that command.
 
10:40 AM
@Kyll sd makecoffee
 
STILL THERE ------> stackoverflow.com/a/36008846/1743880 <---------
 
@kayess You do not have a big enough CHArisma score to run that command.
 
@Kyll cha cha, sd define CHA
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig remove
 
Why? post is deleted
 
user3956566
10:43 AM
yes
 
@TimCastelijns It wasn't when I posted ^^
 
user3956566
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW How is that related to anything at the moment?:)
 
user3956566
@kayess because there have been several posts by FerryBig as SD since you've been here. Besides it is related to the room at all times.
 
@JonClements Good point. My boss started buying triple the usual amount of coffee when I came working every day (three man office)
 
10:47 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW We was joking with Kyll... On the other hand I'm not even added to Smokey, and not even have enough rep. for it, but you are cute for taking care :)
 
user3956566
@kayess enough rep? I didn't know there was a rep limit.. hm
 
Found it in review
 
Already gone
 
user3956566
@kayess deleted
 
@Ferrybig remove
 
10:49 AM
Two reports on an already deleted post, Tunaki being ninja'ed by kayess. It's the end of the world as we know it!
 
Nothing worse than taking the time to flag the question and seeing it deleted 1 second before submitting the flag
 
Point noted --- Developers can completely remove a posts contents from database meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/319002/revisions
 
user3956566
@Kyll I need some meme to insert here
 
@Kyll I actually reposted kayess message because kayess isn't a privileged Smokey user.
 
user3956566
afk
 
10:50 AM
@rene Did you delete your answer, or was that done by the dev?
 
@Tunaki Isn't he? Aw
@BhargavRao Interesting.
 
@BhargavRao I removed it, I pinged @Jnat in the Tavern so he could write the official asnswer.
 
@rene Ah fine. A lotta comments were deleted too :P
 
yeah
 
user3956566
@rene I think that's a good idea, in case there is something dodgy going on.
 
10:52 AM
stackoverflow.com/review/first-posts/11636433 NAA ? Meh wtf is that Q at all :\
 
@kayess at the very least
it's just his username
 
@kayess Borderline garbage (and thus borderline rude).
 
@Kyll sd flagged-as-so
 
@kayess Still not a privileged user. Try asking nicely.
 
Looks like a person that cannot comment which is calling out that it is an exam question :)
 
10:55 AM
Does this make sense?
 
@Gimby His username is "biexam" btb
 
@Adriaan what's in a name :)
 
@kayess No, general computing
 
@Tushar stay in bed all day
 
@Kyll Hmm yeah
 
10:58 AM
@TimCastelijns That is actually a good idea
 
@Tushar Cannot recommend doing that without something like an adult diaper.
 
@Gimby What if the bed is absorbent
 
@BhargavRao barf, imagine that. The smells are too real.
@kayess But is that off-topic? Seems downvote worthy at best.
 
@Gimby I think that's a matter of how to use the debugger and therefore OP should have found the problematic place and then could post MCVE if still unclear to him
 
@BhargavRao Not exactly (the "Special note..." section there)
 
11:04 AM
Hi @JNat o/
 
Hey ;)
 
Reading the post
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig why
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig f
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig remove
 
user3956566
11:05 AM
@Undo there is a bit of a lag with SD here ^^ when implementing remove commands
 
Sorry @Tushar. I edited the post with my code. Could you check please. — Hallan 1 min ago
Can this be reopened?
 
@JNat Wow, even mods can do that then! Ty, Did not know that.
 
You're welcome ;)
 
user3956566
@JNat hi and welcome to our room :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW It is because the 5 sec between api calls limit, not sure if that is also for the remove call, but it is for chat call.
 
11:07 AM
Also Thanks for all those swag, I am using the cup now. :)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW :)
@BhargavRao Glad to hear that. Enjoy!
 
!!/coffee
 
@Adriaan brews coffee for @Adriaan
 
passes coffee to @BhargavRao
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig well Tunaki used sd 2k and I also used remove. They were removed at different times
 
11:08 AM
Wonders if employees have a special search to scan rooms if they are mentioned
 
@rene I was pinged, by you :P
17 mins ago, by rene
@BhargavRao I removed it, I pinged @Jnat in the Tavern so he could write the official asnswer.
 
rene super ping <-- Set to replace Moderator Super Ping™
 
user3956566
LOLOL too funny
 
user3956566
@rene yes it's called pinging
 
@JNat But it didn't autocomplete when I typed that ... didn't mean to ping you here, sorry.
 
11:10 AM
No problem at all ;)
 
OK
 
@rene Bringing all those mods down on our heads!
 
Seems like it, yes
 
@JNat Does that mean if I do @JeffAtwood, He'll reply to me?
 
Not likely :P
 
11:11 AM
@BhargavRao He will use his giant S
 
@JNat thanks for the swag I received last week. I waited patiently for almost 6 months but it was worth it =)
 
Damn, Now I feel sad :-( .. My pings are not as strong as rene's
 
@TimCastelijns ;)
 
user3956566
@Adriaan JNat's not a mod. A SE employee @JNat yes?
 
Yeah
 
11:12 AM
Mod (on Anime) + Employee
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW even worse :P
runs and hides
 
@BhargavRao I have mod powers everywhere, but I'm not a mod on anime any more
 
Oh, just remembered that the great Madara is also mod there :o
 
user3956566
@Adriaan I have found SE has a gift of employing exceptional people. I'm not sure how they do it. Tim Post is amazing hey @JNat?
 
@TimCastelijns Same here, everyone in the office is massively jealous of my new SO notebook!
 
11:13 AM
Wow now we have a chance to get Nat'd
 
user3956566
@Adriaan cute
 
@JNat So getting sacrificed hired implies that you dropped your modship?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Sure is ;)
@BhargavRao Yeah. That's the way it usually works
 
@DavidG I'm never gonna write in it, don't want to ruin it :P but the t-shirt sure made an impression
 
@Kyll Because after a tiny bit of investigating, the question is equivalent to "what's the difference between a car and a blue whale?"
 
11:15 AM
'Sup @Madara? o/
 
@JNat Now you confused me, What bout Mark (Mod on SF and Employee at SE).
 
@JNat Yo! What brings you here on this fine day?
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha that's not a fair comparison.
 
@MadaraUchiha I was pinged ;)
@BhargavRao Wait, who?
 
6 mins ago, by Bhargav Rao
rene super ping <-- Set to replace Moderator Super Ping™
 
11:15 AM
TQ question: stackoverflow.com/review/triage/11635799 is this uhm what?
 
@JNat Mark Henderson, Developer.
 
Won't be long before there are more mods in this room than us mortals!
 
Devs will generally have mod powers in some/most/all sites too
 
user3956566
11:18 AM
This room was for just us
until there came a bus
Full of ---gods--- mods
and we lost our just fun plus
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW How so?
 
Plans to shoot a film, The Curious case of Mark Henderson
 
@BhargavRao Free waffle at the premiere?
 
@Tunaki Yep
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha a blue whale and a car, we are already within the scope of not only programming, but a particular programming language. If you are going to justify an action, at least do so in a language that usefully describes your thoughts.
 
11:20 AM
Afk. Don't trash the place.
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha I think if you need to do investigating, it's better not to use the mod vote on a post. Stick to the things you are expert, or know about, and unless it's obvious crap, don't close it with the one vote. My opinion.
 
user3956566
@kayess maybe avoid the extra commentary, if it ends up being referenced in meta, it looks unprofessional
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Comments are unprofessional? What about your real life comments? Are they professional in a close vote reviewer room? :\
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW But is there any benefit in comparing completely unrelated language features?
 
user3956566
@kayess I'm referring to commenting about posts or users, keep it professional, as a comment, "this is weird" is not helpful if it comes under scrutiny. As for other comments, clean fun is ok if it's not interfering with the main purpose of the room.
 
11:25 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I was commenting about the content of the post, not about the user.
 
user3956566
@DavidG it depends on the context, it's not something that can have a blanket answer
 
user3956566
@kayess I know that.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW We have the context, that answer :)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW So? Are you in some sort of graphomaniac mood or ?
 
@kayess that is enough between the both of you (cc @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW) I addressed the weirdness in a comment on that post.
 
user3956566
11:29 AM
@kayess please don't be rude to me.
 
user3956566
@DavidG I don't have a problem with them, I voted to open.
 
@rene Yeah alright.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW So are you saying that those two things are close enough that the question is actually useful to anyone?
 
@rene (Not to continue, just an update, I edited the post. That is just a dump of code and error as title, can be closed as required MCVE)
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: What's the difference between ModelAndView and ModelMap? by test on stackoverflow.com
 
11:36 AM
@Ferrybig hey smokey, your avatar changed
 
@BhargavRao Yeah, I can't touch Python, not familiar with the indentation.
 
thanks;)
 
Sam
Greetings humans.
 
@Sam Hello
 
11:38 AM
hi
ah I see it's even pinned
 
Is this spam? Or is the question bad? stackoverflow.com/a/36010172/4099593
 
@BhargavRao "I recommend to use all the startups" sounds reeeeally fishy
 
I am not sure tho. If any one is 100% sure then !!/report
 
me neither, and I can't find affiliation
@BhargavRao there's an edit suggestion removing the advert part
and why is the question not being closed as tool rec/POB?
oh, 2010!
 
@AndrasDeak pretty woman that advertises it doesn't help either
 
11:47 AM
@Adriaan the problem is not the pretty woman, but the studio-quality photo
 
Morning
 
user3956566
hi
 
hi
 
Sam
Morning
 
I can imagine that lady to be an actual member of a PR department, rather than a stock photo
I always assume that actual benign users don't get out of their way to have AVON catalog-compatible photos in their profile
@Adriaan yeah, jokes like that are best left in other rooms
 
11:49 AM
Good call
 
user3956566
:29347773 there are plenty, I used to have an interesting link bookmarked
 
@AndrasDeak pff, ok ok
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Sorry about questioning your intention about my bad comment on that post. Also sorry about being rude to you.
 
@BhargavRao my spamflag was helpful, it's deleted
 
@Adriaan that's automatic, I think
I mean the helpfulness if it gets auto-deleted
 
11:50 AM
@AndrasDeak jup. No idea who deleted it or why though.
 
user3956566
@kayess thanks Kayess, I appreciate the apology.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW -
This room was for just us
until there came a bus
Full of ---gods--- mods
and we lost our just fun plus ?
 
@Adriaan probably 5 spam/offensive flags, that's the auto-delete I was referring to
>10k could tell
not that it matters
 
@AndrasDeak or mod, or OP
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind @DavidG made a comment there would be more mods than non-mods in the room, so it was my poem joke :D
 
11:52 AM
@TheLostMind markup doesn't work on multi line messages
 
@AndrasDeak Mod deleted
 
@DavidG ah, thanks!
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver oh the mark up, yes
 
user3956566
<-- insert imagination mark up -->
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - Oh I see oo
 
11:53 AM
Hehe, I leave my system for 3 mins and I have 5 notifications in my inbox :P
 
@NathanOliver - I didn't try that.. :).
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind yep the --- strike through --- strikethrough
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Use unicode strikethrough in such cases
 
@PraveenKumar that's more HTML 5 stuff, not general computing.
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao how?
 
11:54 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW adamvarga.com/strike
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao excellent, will assist in my poetry interpretations :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - The --- strikethrough ?
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind no yes
 
user3956566
Jon C's question to the room owner noms > How do you feel about diamond moderators frequenting the room?
 
@Gimby Yes I know... It was becoz of prev one I guess.
 
user3956566
11:56 AM
since then it's been a flood
 
lol.. I see
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind in part because two of our regulars became mods! :D
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How can I write software that does bank account transfers? by unistop on stackoverflow.com
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao yep
 
11:59 AM
@BhargavRao Thanks. :)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - yes of course.. And we usually have Jon here and Madara pops in a lot of times as well. :P
and today we had JNat
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind exactly
 
@Ferrybig Needs one more
 

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