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8:00 PM
@BhargavRao Like anyone would tell that for any possible reason.
 
Hopefully, someone will tell ;_;
 
@KevinGuan is not here.
 
@Kyll heeey, python is great!
well, numpy, anyway:P
 
Yay!!
 
user4639281
Python JavaScript is great
 
8:02 PM
(besides whitespace. that sucks)
 
@TinyGiant Yesh.
 
user4639281
What I love, is that I just found out gnome shell extensions are written in JavaScript.
 
I've changed my mind, I'm going to use an entirely new indentation character: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317380/…
 
@TinyGiant I usually just see the css part when something is ugly
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, Ubuntu / Mint have web interfaces now!
 
user4639281
8:03 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara lulz
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak Which is like, never.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Probably going to get Illegal character exception in many languages =p
 
@Kyll That's ok, I'll make a transpiler.
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak I don't know about you, but I use 3.18
 
@TinyGiant 3.10.4 here:)
 
8:05 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara you said a dirty word
 
I'm not particularly progressive
 
user4639281
I use Fedora Rawhide
 
@TylerH Transpilers are amazing in JS. Allows you to write modern code that even IE can eat.
 
@TinyGiant ubuntu 14.04 lts
 
user4639281
Which happens to be an antonym of "not particularly progressive"
 
8:06 PM
@Kyll transpiling is not a thing
 
@TinyGiant is it?
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak Ewww. ubuntu
 
it's just compiling for people who want to feel like a special snowflake
 
@TinyGiant oh, I see:D
 
@TinyGiant What about Mint 17.3?
 
user4639281
8:07 PM
@AndrasDeak You want bleeding edge? Use Fedora, you want the code the devs wrote an hour ago? Use Fedora Rawhide.
 
@TinyGiant yeah, no, I'm using 14.04 for a reason;)
 
user4639281
@Kyll Better than ubuntu
 
that reason is mostly "lazyness"
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak Why not just use debian then?
 
@TinyGiant Debian's far from lazy
 
8:08 PM
@TinyGiant Why use something bleeding edge when you could use something cutting edge
 
@TinyGiant I started using Ubuntu, which a friend of mine claims to be a gateway drug for linux...and then stuck with it
 
@TylerH Because you're apparently on the wrong end of the edge? ^^
 
user4639281
@TylerH Because the bleeding edge has blood on it.
 
@TinyGiant "Switch to linux, just don't use ubuntu, or debian"
 
user4639281
@Kyll Debian is pretty lazy.
 
user4639281
8:08 PM
@gunr2171 Yeah, that one
 
@Kyll putting aside Tiny's thirst for blood, you don't bleed until after you're cut, QED cutting edge comes first
another case of "people wanting to be special snowflakes so they invented a nonsense term"
 
"basicly, anything that I'm not using"
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 Nothing wrong with debian
 
53 secs ago, by Tiny Giant
@Kyll Debian is pretty lazy.
 
user4639281
Debian is extremely stable
 
8:09 PM
@gunr2171 he meant that as a pro for me, I think
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[design]"
What's next
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 So yeah, it's lazy as in you don't have to do much to make it work and keep it working.
 
meh, I just come into conversations and spew my opinion, whether it's relevant or not. You can't judge me. :P
 
user4639281
Canonical is like the Microsoft of the Linux world, and Ubuntu is like the Windows of the linux world.
 
@TinyGiant except I don't have to steal it
and it lets me know what the hell's going on:P
 
8:11 PM
@TinyGiant Flagging as offensive to Ubuntu
 
user4639281
They took a lot from the community, then they made it all proprietary.
 
@AndrasDeak you don't have to steal Windows either
 
There's a limit, man
 
@Kyll lol:D
@TylerH don't I? But I love that!
 
user4639281
Basically like how microsoft steals open source code and makes it proprietary, but ubuntu was originally open source.
 
8:12 PM
 
@BhargavRao python is great
 
@Kyll wow, that's interesting, thanks
 
Ha we switched to OS
 
JAL
(I'm out of votes)
 
8:13 PM
First I'll stab you all with the baguette I'm having
 
@AndrasDeak Interesting? After reading this you should uninstall Ubuntu... And switch to Mint.
 
@Kyll wait wait, does this not only apply to Unity?:P
 
@Tunaki Note that you actually wrote great :D Signs up for the deal
 
@Tunaki I've got a pâté Tourangeaux shield. Unbreakable. Don't make me pull out the Sainte-Maure grenades.
 
@PetterFriberg Hm?
 
user4639281
8:14 PM
My biggest beef with Ubuntu is that they committed to wayland, then turned their back and wrote their own proprietary version.
 
ok, I leave it...
 
@AndrasDeak It's Canonical. Run away from those guys.
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@Tunaki he's asking if the target dupe is legit
 
interesting points, thanks
 
user4639281
8:15 PM
As long as it isn't built or maintained by canonical, you're good.
 
I'm usually on the side of "not fixing what ain't broke", so I haven't made any efforts to see why I should change
 
user4639281
Like I said, if you want something lightweight and stable that will never break, check out debian.
 
UX-wise I don't have many issues. Well, a few since gnome 3
 
@user1803551 dupe isn't legit. Maybe there's a legit one out there though
 
@TinyGiant thanks, I might:)
 
8:16 PM
@AndrasDeak Cinnamon is incredibly good
 
user4639281
@Kyll @Cimmanon knows you like her :)
 
@user1803551 But it is POB
 
So is it possible to have my debian/cinnamon with ubuntu-esque gnome 3? (You might tell I'm not exactly a power user)
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak Gnome 3.18 is actually pretty awesome now, and pretty stable.
 
8:17 PM
@BhargavRao Nothing. It actually is a correct answer.
 
@TinyGiant She does!
 
@Tunaki Danke
 
user4639281
@AndrasDeak Ubuntu uses unity, which is not gnome 3
 
@TinyGiant yeah, I've overhauled it for gnome-shell
 
@Kyll Oh flirting again
 
8:18 PM
which is why I asked if that privacy issue only affected unity
 
user4639281
Ok, well then yeah, debian comes with gnome 3
 
@TinyGiant cool, cool, thanks:)
 
@Tunaki Wouldn't dare
 
user4639281
And IIRC ubuntu will be dropping support for gnome entirely soon.
 
oh, just found the corresponding note on the fixubuntu website
@TinyGiant well then they will settle this issue for me on their own:D
 
user4639281
8:20 PM
lol
 
user4639281
Though IIRC Linus prefers KDE
 
user4639281
I don't like KDE much
 
@TinyGiant I'll make The Man sad then:P
I hate how KDE looks, though honestly I've never try to make it look normal
 
user4639281
Linus also hates C++...
 
I'm a sad kind of user who judges by the out-of-the-box appearence of display managers
 
8:21 PM
Linus hates everything. Except C.
 
@TinyGiant he also hates pull requests on github:D
@Rizier123 dupehammered now
 
user4639281
Don't use openbox then :P
 
yeah I think I won't...
 
Who is going around voting to close like... every single question? 90% of the questions I've been looking to answer today have at least 1 close vote for almost no reason grumble grumble
 
I also won't be getting an Ubuntu phone, then;D
 
8:30 PM
 
although I don't have any illusions about samsung handling my data discreetly
 
is it a well written question? No... does it deserved to be closed? Probably not
 
Hey, did you guys notice that annoying red cross when you voted to close
 
what, so you don't double click the button?
 
Yeah
 
8:35 PM
meh, shows for a half second.
semantically, makes sense
 
user4639281
what red cross?
 
close a question, keep an eye on your cursor
 
Are you saying you haven't voted to close a single Q today? :p
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 I thought that was just my setup...
 
now for the record, what is shown to you is entirely the browser's decision. SO just uses the "not allowed" cursor option.
 
8:38 PM
True.
 
user4639281
Ahhh, didn't know that.
 
Red-cross in Chrome? (In FF it is White Cross)
 
don't worry, i'm here
 
@gunr2171 Too bad there's isn't W8/10
 
8:41 PM
Is the same as W7 really
 
Too bad there isnt linux
 
so which one of you is going around voting to close everything? ;)
 
@JoePhilllips not sure if serious or not
 
user47589
4 messages moved from C#
 
From C#?
 
8:42 PM
messages above
 
@gunr2171 Notice the smiley
 
@JoePhilllips uh, no idea. If you want you can look through the transcript here or in the graveyard to see if we have talked about it
but until the post is closed none of us will know who is that single voter
 
@Kyll (╯°□°)╯ ʎǝןıɯs ǝɥʇ ǝɔıʇou
 
plus, it's one vote
 
8:44 PM
i'll just hang out here I guess. Didn't realize this place was a thing
 
welcome to the thing!
 
Are you also recruited by Drew?
 
@JoePhilllips Plop Joe! =D
 
@JoePhilllips Hi and welcome..
 
I knew about chat just didn't know about this channel... I think Amy sent me here
 
8:45 PM
mysql that must be @Drew
 
user4639281
I think we've had a few C# requests in here today, but not many.
 
Drew had a c# batch earlier
 
Hi @JoePhilllips o/
 
Which I promised to look at
 
maybe it was my JoeBlow comment on a c# page
c# is cleansed
 
8:47 PM
Ah, great
 
the 'closes' I've seen were not just one tag... C#, mysql, sql, sql-server, git
 
jasper-reports?
 
close votes can be sporadic
 
@JoePhilllips Yes, I casted over 40,000 close votes
 
@JoePhilllips I haven't scanned git to my knowledge as a batch to close.
I have cleaned up recently
 
8:50 PM
> I'm a bit perplexed why it remained in the moderator flag queue despite having had a major edit by the post author in this case.
 
No big deal, just curious. If I see anything funny I'll bring it up here and see what you guys think
 
From here. Does that mean that the amount of editing decides whether a NAA flag is marked helpful or not after an edit??
Ha
> NAA flag wasn't cleared because post edit was made outside of review:
Okay
 
@JoePhilllips I am happy to scan any tag for decent questions to answer if you want
with a bot
 
@Tunaki <4 lettered word here>, The same reason perhaps why mine was declined. :-(
 
@Tunaki Oh, that needs an extra click to verify then...
 
8:56 PM
Plop Sam!
 
Hiya @Sam o/
 
@BhargavRao Probably yeah. Kinda weird though. Happened to me also but at least we have a definite answer now
 
afk
 
That points to a comment
 
That makes me a bit scared to flag NAA now.
 
9:02 PM
@BhargavRao looks NAA to me.
 
@BhargavRao Definitely NAA, flagged and commented.
 
Ah fine then. Time to sleep
Cya all. Bye o/
 
Morning everyone
 
Hiya o/
@BhargavRao Yes and voted to delete
 
@Kyll Yeah, because yesterday is Lantern Festival, I was go to outside instead of get more rep review on SO.
 
9:14 PM
CV = close vote?
 
pp_
@JoePhilllips yes
 
oh, duh. /me reads channel name
 
@JoePhilllips if you want some reading material, here's the faq
and I got ninja'd
 
\o/
 
JAL
9:16 PM
Is this design pattern question too broad? stackoverflow.com/q/35563548/2415822
 
@JAL sounds like it's not an iOS/swift question. (not sure yet on closure)
 
JAL
well delegation is a popular pattern with ios, so that's probably where the tags came from
you're right either way
 
delegates are in .net as well
 
That is an incredibly broad question... nearly every language has the concepts of delegates
 
I for one am unclear on the question
 
9:19 PM
Yeah, the question doesn't really have a point IMO... it could be answered with "Yes" or "No" which wouldn't be useful
 
It sounds like a basic yes/no, but I'm not sure what sort of details the answers need to go into
 
@gunr2171 I'm voting to close gunr as Unclear what you're saying.
 
@JoePhilllips "doesn't have a point", my thoughts exactly
@KevinGuan wait wat?
 
@gunr2171 Hmm...nothing. Just 4 more close votes to close gunr.
 
@gunr2171 He saying you make no sense and should have a time-out.
 
9:22 PM
Oh yeah, that one ^
 
@KevinGuan let's see, if I kick you all for 14 days then the vote will expire.....
 
user4639281
It's ok, I've got a few votes for POB on me today.
 
JAL
@BhargavRao were you the one who brought up the answers with csharpstar.com in them? I custom mod flagged with the three answers and it was marked as helpful.
Who owns Smokey? @ProgramFOX? Can we add csharpstar.com to the blacklist?
 
ProgramFox / Undo / some others
runs on Undo's server
 
@gunr2171 But if you really did it, then this room will get frozen anyway.
 
9:25 PM
 
@JAL I can blacklist websites as well
 
JAL
Ok, I just asked in their main room. I think Undo is going to take care of it
 
@JAL Yes Yes. There were more ans from other accounts. It looks like all were deleted. I did not know what to cus flag, so I did not.
 
You can ping ProgramFOX if you want to add a website to the blacklist. I've done it multiple times.
 
Please do that. The user is using multiple accounts to do that.
 
JAL
9:30 PM
Undo just added it, it's pending CI on smokey
will be in the next deployment
 
Anyway, Bye again. Typing with one eye closed. Ciao o/
 
does adding a comment to a question bump it in the activity queue?
 
Nope.
 
@JAL Thank ya :-)
 
JAL
Night Bhargav
np
 
9:30 PM
 
JAL
@rene Yup exactly, I'll know to create a PR next time
!!/amiprivileged
 
@JAL Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
@rene @TinyGiant This is the comment the softwarerec mod gave his blessing to and people here can use if they identify a possible migration candidate when closing for tool recs:
Your question is off-topic for SO. Software Recommendations might be able to help you out if you [edit] your question according to the instructions here and here. Then flag for a mod asking for migration.
 
Later guys
 
JAL
night Nathan
 
9:36 PM
cya
 
\o
 
@user1803551 No OP is going read that.
 
user4639281
Night
 
Plus there's 2 page to read, too much. I'm just copy pasting my Q.
 
9:37 PM
@user1803551 does that needs to go in the auto comment script
 
user4639281
They're going to reach the softwarerecs link and go post an off-topic question there.
 
@TinyGiant then better to hide that site completely so no one posts off-topic questions there, right?
@rene i would guess not, but i don't know what the script is
@Tunaki well, they are pretty short reads. we can't assume that the OP will always do the minimum just to get their question closed
 
> Your question is off-topic for SO. If you [edit] your question according to the instructions here our sister site Software Recommendations might be able to help you out after that. If you're done editing flag for a mod asking for migration.
 
^ that sounds better yah
 
i honestly don't see the difference
so i guess i'm fine with that one
 
9:44 PM
The instructions are the first link
 
It's just rearranged so that it start with... [...]
stopped writing, rene said it
 
ah, well, missing the help page link, i hope they are OK with that at SR
 
> Your question is off-topic for SO. If you [edit] your question according to the instructions here our sister site Software Recommendations might be able to help you out after that. If you're done editing flag for a mod asking for migration.
 
user4639281
@rene I like that much better.
 
user4639281
@rene That too
 
9:46 PM
Yeah, I'm a language wizard .. :(
 
@rene I think it's missing part of the sentence
 
yeah, before the link
 
@KevinGuan Go outside? You really are weird uh.
 
@Tunaki sorry, fixed cc @user1803551
 
Apologies accepted.
 
9:53 PM
@rene, you can link with [softwarerecs.se]
 
I'm out for today, cya!
 
@user1803551 sure, but that doesn't bring me on the help page
 
JAL
cya gunr, good luck with the cpu
 
@JAL thanks
 
@rene oh, alright
 
9:58 PM
I'm out, need to recover from not enough sleep last night...
 
night
 
night
 

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