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7:00 PM
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[opencv]"
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [c++11]"
 
user4639281
You guys are so distracting, I'm trying to review here.
 
Tiny Giant stop sniping my questions
 
JAL
@TylerH dat $3,731.35 price tag
 
7:01 PM
oh no, again, last time in the CVQ i skipped 75% of the Qs on it
 
user4639281
passed php audit - that was hard
 
JAL
> php
 
passed python audit
 
JAL
> hard
 
user4639281
@TylerH What am I sniping now?
 
user4639281
7:01 PM
@JAL I had to click looks ok to pass it, that was hard.
 
JAL
fair
 
@TinyGiant two reviewing questions in a row on opencv
"this question has already been closed"
 
user4639281
lol
 
@user1803551 davidsm did leave comments on some ...
 
@rene yeah i notice
 
7:03 PM
a third one -_-
 
passed android audit
 
okay
I'm going away
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[opencv]"
 
user4639281
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[opencv]"
 
user4639281
@TylerH LOL, I knew every time that you would be right behind me
 
user4639281
7:03 PM
that sounds worse than intended
 
user4639281
starting on flask
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
I went through some flask and did everything I could in C++11
 
I'm half way
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[flask]"
 
At a meeting. Will review/TF2 tonight, in 3 hours or so
 
7:10 PM
okay coming back
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[opencv]"
 
user4639281
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[flask]"
 
Tyler you still haven't joined us for tf2
 
I did once
 
Tyler did, yes
 
oh yeah, well do it more often!
 
7:10 PM
i've stopped after to leave votes for the batches
 
batches are all old AF questions, arent they
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[flask]"
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[design]"
 
user4639281
Q: Could anyone tell me what my problem is? A: You lack simple debugging skills.
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@Tiny Feeling like joining us for TF2?
 
I'm on c++11 now... for as long as I last
 
user4639281
7:13 PM
Probably won't have time
 
@TinyGiant C: Oh burn
 
user4639281
lol
 
@TinyGiant I get suspended for comments like that. They are undeniably true in so many cases, but YOU MUST NOT SAY SO - IT'S NOT NICE'.
 
@TylerH usually pretty new i think
 
@MartinJames well there is a "be nice" rule...
 
user4639281
7:14 PM
@MartinJames No definitely not. Gotta be nice to the users who lack simple debugging skills.
 
@MartinJames On a question? Or in a chatroom?
 
That is why I have:
It sounds like you may need to learn how to use a debugger to step through your code. With a good debugger, you can execute your program line by line and see where it is deviating from what you expect. This is an essential tool if you are going to do any programming. Further reading: How to debug small programs
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [c++11]"
 
@TylerH Yeah - only applies to the regular, skilled, experienced SO contributors, not to question posters.
 
user4639281
It would be pretty rude to just say that in the comments of a question, but in a chatroom with no link to the question it is a different story.
 
7:16 PM
Oops! Did I post that out loud?
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[flask]"
@MartinJames you did but no one believes you anyway
 
@TinyGiant How can the truth be rude?
 
The truth is the truth, "rude" is how you say it
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It is an inconvenient truth
 
@MartinJames ugliness made it grow up to be rude, I guess
 
user4639281
7:17 PM
The truth!?!?! You want the truth?!?!?! YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!
 
didn't get much love throughout its life
 
@TinyGiant yep, that didn't take long to come out
 
@TinyGiant Put the colonel jessip in handcuffs please
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@gunr2171 What film is that from? I used that quote in several meta posts, but..
 
user4639281
7:18 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@MartinJames A Few Good Men
Tom Cruise
 
@MartinJames uh, I just made it up.
 
@TylerH Ah!
 
coincidence it seems
 
& Jack Nicholson
 
user4639281
7:18 PM
lol
 
@gunr2171 I think he meant TG's quote that you replied to
 
user4639281
I've lost my mind and I can't seem to find it anywhere.
 
oh
durp, ignore me
 
I should have imdb'd it.
 
ok, here's the meme page on it
 
7:20 PM
Colonel Jessip (Nicholson) says it when Tom Cruise (a JAG lawyer) says "we are entitled to the truth" while in court, or something along that line
Jessip was accused of ordering an illegal beating (a "code red") of a soldier in Guantanamo Bay
 
user4639281
 
@gunr2171 I want the juice!
 
user4639281
You can't handle my juice.
 
user4639281
That sounded about as bad as I intended it
 
user4639281
So, @rene, how can IE fail, without any errors or warnings?
 
7:29 PM
@TinyGiant because it is programmed by interns over a period of 5 years?
 
user4639281
Any way I can force it to spit out some errors?
 
@rene @MadaraUchiha (since you're here). i had a talk with a mod from softwarerecs.stackexchange.com about trying to save some of the "tool rec" questions we close on SO by migrating them. there is a proposition for a few steps that can be taken in order to achieve this.
if we want to take this on, we will need to prepare a canned response with the links
 
user4639281
I don't like that idea.
 
@TinyGiant is it javascript? Or a com component that beaks?
 
user4639281
@rene JS
 
7:32 PM
@user1803551 If you want, flag the posts in question with a custom flag asking for migration, bonus points for link to a chat message where the mod on softwarerecs said they wanted it
Or just have your mods ping us directly, they know how to get a hold of us.
 
@MadaraUchiha ummm, i'm an SO user... they are not my mods on SR, i approached them
 
They use The other Lounge
 
user4639281
I would vote for the migration close path to be removed entirely.
 
@MadaraUchiha and if i flag the question and it's not suited for SR then it will just get declined, which will usually be the case because the questions need to be edited before the flagging
 
user4639281
@user1803551 That's a good thing
 
7:35 PM
@user1803551 Which is why I said, bonus points for links to chat messages saying their mods want the question
 
user4639281
It is up to you to make sure that the question is on-topic, a good fit, and not a duplicate on the target site.
 
I doubt it'd get declined if it has that.
 
try that i.stack.imgur.com/UBa9K.png and are you sure the JS script is loaded at all?
 
@rene Ewwwwwww IE
 
user4639281
@rene Will try it
 
user4639281
7:36 PM
Thanks
 
@TinyGiant awesome
 
@MadaraUchiha but flagging will have to be postponed until the question is edited. it's not flag and leave a comment. it's leave a comment, wait for the edit, flag
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
@user1803551 Leave a comment + close is also a good course of action
 
user4639281
@user1803551 Same with vote to close with the migration reason, it should be on-topic on the target site.
 
user4639281
7:38 PM
If you have to edit it to do so, you should do that before migrating it
 
@TinyGiant Do know I have had some weird errors because the enterprise IT guys locked down all kind of features, causing all kind of strange break downs in js objects that used to working. For example localStorage will break badly if they turned that off.
 
@TinyGiant it's the OP who should edit it and flag when it's ready, not me
 
Evening
 
Someone I know has expressed some interest in learning to program for the first time. I am thinking of suggesting Java or C# to start with. Does anyone else have something they think would be better?
 
user4639281
@user1803551 So why do you want a close reason for migration? That will just end up with crap being migrated.
 
user4639281
7:41 PM
@NathanOliver JavaScript
 
user4639281
If it gets closed at the target site, it creates a big mess on both sites.
 
user4639281
@rene Interesting
 
@TinyGiant Really?
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver Sure, no compilers or servers necessary.
 
@NathanOliver Do he/she has a particular goal besides learning programming?
 
user4639281
7:43 PM
Get them set up on jsbin.com with a couple tutorials and set them free.
 
@kayess I know he would like to make a game at some point
 
@TinyGiant I don't think you read the transcript, we don't want to put it on the migration list. we want a way to find a way to save some of the tool recs here by preparing them for migration. the discussion was on the best way to do so
 
@NathanOliver F12, go to Console, type console.log('Hello world'). Congratulations, that was your first software... and so on
 
user4639281
The future is JavaScript anyway, why not start there.
 
@NathanOliver Eww, then it sounds like c/c++ assembly on the long run
 
7:44 PM
@kayess Yeah. I know that is where they will need to go but I am not sure what is a good start
 
@NathanOliver If they go to Unity3D c# might be a good choice?
 
user4639281
@user1803551 ahh, ignore me then
 
user4639281
@kayess You can write games in JS
 
@NathanOliver IF the goal is programming then something more C'ish
 
@TinyGiant Ok, fine
 
7:44 PM
@TinyGiant Yes and you sell it on xboxes and so on...
 
@kayess Programming games* you mean?
 
@Kyll Yes my bad, thanks for edit +1
 
user4639281
@kayess Well, who would buy an xbox anyways, that's a microsoft product.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah
 
Thanks guys. I'll let him know and then he can make the choice.
 
user4639281
7:46 PM
On another note, spaces are better than tabs...
 
@TinyGiant I guess parents of some hundred of thousands of kids, who else
 
Yes. 4 spaces are best
 
@TinyGiant so, what i want is to create a canned comment which was concocted together with SR to put on our tool rec questions so the OP can edit them accordingly and know what to flag for
 
@TinyGiant lies
 
@NathanOliver If you're going to assist that person in their learning they should go for something you know well, too
 
7:47 PM
@NathanOliver No, two
 
C++ is the way then! :)
 
@Kyll I have to keep that in mind. I know " JS
 
@TinyGiant what have you done!
 
@MadaraUchiha To me that is to compact.
 
user4639281
And just for kicks, Linux is the best OS
 
7:48 PM
@NathanOliver 2 spaces or no space at all
 
JAL
@Kyll nooooooo 2 spaces is way too cramped
 
@TinyGiant close as POB
 
Reopen because I like bloodshed
 
user4639281
I vote to close this whole room as POB.
 
close @TinyGiant as POB
 
JAL
7:48 PM
meant to edit for spaces, flagged instead
 
user4639281
Bah, someone posting something on-topic, the nerve.
 
@davidism yeah, I didn't realize that you editing those posts made it not close-worthy
 
Nite!
 
Bonne nuit!
 
@gunr2171 nah, I edit things that I close too
 
7:49 PM
@davidism good to go
 
thanks
 
@kayess joccak
 
user4639281
Nighteo
 
user4639281
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
7:50 PM
afk
 
Tabs: The only solution to people wanting different indentations.
 
@NathanOliver I just arrived. 1 tab (=4 spaces) for code, 2 spaces for XML.
That's the solution.
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara I want to force my indentations upon you, got a problem with that?
 
Ok, so because no one can agree on tabs and spaces, let's just all use underscores.
 
I don't want to force indentations on people, that's just stupid.
 
7:51 PM
No let's just all write code without indentation
 
@Tunaki rip python users
 
@gunr2171 Or maybe we can all use a mixture of 3 spaces or one tab! shoots himself
 
Who cares about python
 
Mouses
 
@Tunaki they can just from __future__ import braces
 
7:52 PM
@Tunaki don't let davidism hear that
 
There, pr0bl3m solved.
But definitely 2 spaces for XML
 
why would anyone want to give code to anybody else in the first place?
 
@Tunaki WHO ARE YOU TO TELL THAT?
 
Python is perfectly capable of handling tabs.
 
@BhargavRao I am Tunaki first of the name.
 
7:53 PM
@Tunaki Pretty sure you're second to that one
 
No.
 
@Tunaki Say that again and you are kicked out of the film
 
And XML are 2 spaced god dammit
 
First one was something with huge body parts according to a dictionary I can't quite quote without getting a kick
 
@BhargavRao I'm the director of the film, I do as I please.
You can make a fork if you want.
 
7:55 PM
@Tunaki So who is producing it?
 
I am the producer
 
But...
 
No money for you
 
=(
 
@BhargavRao Hmm now we know who is spamming, time to flag you to moderator
 
7:57 PM
And that's how Tunaki declined and started consuming fish food. He lost all his creative talent and did reality shows.
 
coming this winter: Tunaki Gets Shut Down: the Musical
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Lol
 
@gunr2171 -u +o 101/101 would pay to watch
 
@Tunaki Say "python is great" and you'll be signed up for the Spambusters film. :D
 

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