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11:00 AM
Nice comment Tuna!
 
Hiya @Jon.
 
Ha! Finally user is also gone... No Love, only War! :D
 
heya
 
You finally killed that Lalalalalal I see :D
By the way @Jon, I see the spam flag was declined on that. We're not supposed to do that?
 
11:04 AM
It gets attention to it quickly - but it wasn't by definition spam
 
@Tunaki Some moderators decline spam flags, despite guidance to accept them. See Shog's conversation here
garbage by 1-rep unregistered user can be considered spam
 
Yes, there's a conversation here with Shog9 that says we can flag as spam
 
Okay - link?
 
@Tuna is got 2 helpful flags first post NAA then second post SPAM (you need to do it in correct order..)
 
Fetching bookmark link...
 
11:06 AM
looking for it too
 

Shog's point on flagging gibberish

Nov 5 '15 at 17:45, 12 minutes total – 35 messages, 5 users, 10 stars

Bookmarked Nov 5 '15 at 18:06 by Kyll

 
ah thanks
 
And, one-boxing again because no RO seems to be around:
Nov 5 '15 at 17:53, by Shog9
if it's a new user, it doesn't matter (and spam is plausible). If it's someone who has reasonable posts elsewhere, then that spam flag will be declined because it'd mess them up for what was probably an innocent mistake.
But yeah @Tunaki You'll occasionally get declined flags on those
 
@Kyll interesting - thanks for that
 
Hi @JonClements! :)
 
11:09 AM
Hi Praveen
 
@JonClements np, glad I could help. Shog9 popped out of nowhere because earlier that day we were researching that very topic and found multiple different guidance from him... And when you whisper Shog's name in the wind too much, you get a Shog in the room (which was awesome)
 
Does smokey also handle posts on meta.stackoverflow?
 
@Ferrybig I don't think so
There isn't much spam on Meta, due to the rep requirement
 
afk
 
11:27 AM
following last instructions...
 
spam.
@PetterFriberg Or, what should we flag it as?
 
yeah spam...
low rep user bla bla bla..
 
@SmokeDetector k This one looks like it has already been flagged as spam
Any more spam flags guys?
 
Let me check this user's profile
 
@Kyll No other actions, only question, joined 5d ago
 
11:30 AM
Checking post's history
 
Feb 18 at 11:48, by Ms Yvette
!!/report http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35480534/best-sliding-woo-commerce-plugin-fre‌​e-version
 
Yeah, way too fishy to let it pass. Diamonds will advise.
Flagging
I'm particularly caught by the last revision - OP added their website back in
 
@PraveenKumar, I see your name on every smokey... are you spamming!!! : ), you know that there is a chrome plugin that notifies you even if you are trying to work...
 
@PetterFriberg Ha ha... Chrome plugin no! It is by using !!/notify. RTFM! :)
 
11:38 AM
hmm maybe I was to quick to throw a spam flag on that one...
 
@PetterFriberg Good that!
Let them all die.
 
@PetterFriberg Nah. garbage from a 1-rep unregistered user. Spam.
Stupid Azerty keyboards >.>
 
@PraveenKumar What i meant is that on chrome you can install a plugin... no need for !!notify... just to avoid 100 messages when you turn on pc... (The chrome plugin alerts you same as !!notify)
but you do as you like : ), was just a tip...
 
hi
 
hi
please add the close reason to : )....
 
11:52 AM
Off-topic: Plz, send me teh codez.
 
for more scrupulous people: too broad / unclear
 
I dont find too broad / unclear fit such question, that are blatantly asking for code with no effort put into finding a solution
 
: ), since all cv-pls are stored its good to put the close reason before link (and its best if its an official one..., mcve ecc...) anyway nice you dropped in...
 
@PetterFriberg will do next time :)
 
@Omar unfortunately "me teh codez" its not a valid close reason, I went with no mcve. I think to broad is ok to...
 
11:55 AM
@PetterFriberg it's up to you. what matters is getting it closed.
 
: ), well its best that we avoid meta as well, but yes I agree...
 
I tend to leave "Off-topic: Plz, send me teh codez" so others can see it as well as the OP.
 
You should watch out, there has been a meta about that its not an actual close reason, maybe better to use to broad (its always fit)
another spam flag on that...
 
Didn't even have time to flag lol
 
@PetterFriberg Wow, do we have something like that? I didn't know that existed. I would have opted for that. Ah, first of all I didn't understand your message, LoL. Sorry about that. My mistake.
 
12:00 PM
@Omar to broad can be broadly used, specially in these cases, the sense is "we have no idea how much we need to explain to you so that you can understand... since we need to do everything from the start"
 
@PetterFriberg Wow... :D
 
back
 
good then I can go back to work : ), in the sense the flagger is back....
 
@PetterFriberg Ha ha ha...
 
Reminder please: could we do for link-only answers in here?
 
12:11 PM
@Cerbrus As long as you're not spamming and have a good reason
 
Answerer is under the impression it is the correct answer, and isn't deleting it for that reason. This case is being discussed on meta, where he's basically saying "I'm not gonna delete it myself"
 
@Cerbrus : ) Did you see my first comment.... I skipped that since the key words "Separate schema compilation." gave result on google
 
@Cerbrus voted to del by the awy
and it's gone
 
@PetterFriberg I did see it, yes
Still, it's a textbook link-only answer
The problem with those link only answers is that they lose all value when the link dies. A better alternative is a short explanation, accompanied with a link to the full documentation. Generally, links are bonus material in an answer. A answer should still answer the question if not a single link in there works. — Cerbrus 24 mins ago
That sums it up pretty well, I think
 
well for me that answer was on the limit, since also with out the link it had some valuable key words... but hey... I prefer the easy pray..
 
12:19 PM
If an answer requires you to google for something that may be a keyword, is it really an answer?
 
Especially with Maven plugins, there are a lot that share the same name. Or change name like it's christmas.
 
"Use <Library name>" could be considered an answer as well, then.
 
Even worse, I think there are at least 100 maven-jaxb-plugin out there.
 
well I personally do the test "no link", lets see what I can find... is it useful... but hey in the end I skipped....
 
Simple google: 1 2 are the first 2 links and main plugins. Heck, there's even a SO question: stackoverflow.com/q/2432859/1743880 because no-one can't tell the difference between them
 
12:40 PM
@Tunaki I skipped so never wrong : )
 
Is there some condition in flag handling I'm forgetting? 6 recommend deletions votes (and my flag marked "helpful") but the answer has not been deleted (it has not been deleted, and then undeleted, I checked the timeline): stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11300506
 
@Louis RD's don't delete postively scored answers from the queue
 
@JonClements It becomes a moderator flag, I hope?
 
sd remove- can someone who actually see the images edit them in?
 
@Louis yes
 
12:43 PM
@Louis yup
 
Ok, so a moderator has not gotten around to it. Thanks @JonClements and @Braiam.
 
@JonClements How does the mod panel looks for the posts? For immediate destruction? :P
 
Morning
 
@PraveenKumar everything in "moderation" :p
 
@JonClements LoL. Ha ha. I know. I am so curious to see how it looks. A screenshot? You can hide the details in it, if needed. :)
 
12:47 PM
Hiya @NathanOliver o/
It feels so good to hammer a hot post (like this one stackoverflow.com/q/35549145/1743880).
 
Those are trade secrets Prav
 
@PraveenKumar nope - that's a breach of the moderator agreement - you might be able to find some screenshots for the mod tools on MSE - but you aren't getting them from me :p
 
@JonClements Gotcha... Grr these NDAs... :P
 
@PraveenKumar shh, give him a waffle
 
So, that link-only-answer guy is complaining it takes too much effort to fix his answers. My response?
> Clicking the "delete" button requires a trivial amount of effort compared to posting a meta question.
 
12:49 PM
@JonClements Oreo Wafflez. :D
 
@Praveen I'm English - so I'd want a nice afternoon tea at Claridges - but even then you're not getting anything
 
And scones!
 
@JonClements Er... Okay... Have these... ps: I don't need screenshots from me. :) Happy with them? :) Just want you to be happy! LoL.
 
@Cerbrus exactly - it comes with a lovely spread of little sandwiches, little snacks and scones, and copious amounts of your favourite tea in silver kettles and proper china glasses etc...
 
@Cerbrus Check it out...
 
12:52 PM
@JonClements We've been on vacation in the UK once... Loved the proper high tea there
The scones there are so good compared to what you get here in the Netherlands
 
@Cerbrus I'm happy that you screen shot before I deleted my comment.... since it does not seem "canned" does it?
 
I don't understand how the English people are satisfied with the watery tea and some bun (scone, etc.)... We Indian people, even though we are in UK, we love to have something like [this](http://www.cravebits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/South-Indian-wedding-food.jpg). - Def you should try this once. :)
@JonClements @Cerbrus
 
@PetterFriberg It's a "custom" comment.
Far from automated
 
@PraveenKumar you've obviously not had "proper tea and scones"
 
^
 
12:54 PM
@JonClements Well, you drink tea with how much milk and water? Plz?
 
A scone is not "some bun"
 
@Cerbrus Had one from M&S. Tastes Awesome!!! Seriously, but still it is a kind of bun right?
 
And you drink it with however much or little dilution you like.
 
Man, I am new to it... But let me know. :)
@Cerbrus Er, 0% Water / 100% Triple Toned Milk! :) ...
 
a strong leaf tea (I sometimes go for Earl Grey) with a slice of lemon - delicious
 
12:56 PM
@JonClements That's soothing. Yes! :)
I love the Twinnings Lemon Tea. :D
 
@JonClements: Can you get rid of these eyesores for a second? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317391/…
I personally like cinnamon or a fruity tea as well
Depends
(Thanks, Jon)
 
(no worries - thanks for pointing it out)
 
How long until it starts again? :p
 
Speaking of eyesores, can ad impressions be removed for higher rep users
 
related to this meta q aren't NAA flags supposed to go away after an edit is made or is there a time limit on that function?
 
1:10 PM
Fishy or just stupid? The link-only answer has been upvoted...
 
Sympathy vote would be my guess.
 
Probably.
 
@EricD. Write [help] in comments, not help =p
 
@Kyll oops, right
Too broad: closed
 
1:31 PM
anyone got any ideas for how to fix this title? its beyond useless as is: stackoverflow.com/questions/35551917/…
 
@cimmanon Inconsistent change of floating point value to pixle value?
 
nah, that would only make sense if the guy was asking about it on the CSS side
 
Oh I get it. it is a dupe of this and you could make the title something along the lines of "Why are these two floating point numbers not comparing equal".
 
not exactly
 
Wait acoording to the answer it might not be a dupe. Just the OP was not using the correct amount of precision.
 
1:37 PM
i would explain it with haskell, but i dont know if it would make sense to you
 
isn't it just 1.3333 != 1.33333333333...?
 
in haskell, if you want to print a value, it has to have an instance of Show
but lets say you have an infinite list, you cant really show it
so you would write a custom Show instance for it that would show only the first 10 items in the list
 
morning!
 
Hey o/
 
sass is doing the same kind of thing with numbers
 
1:39 PM
Plop gunr!
 
Morning
 
Plop Ferrybig!
 
I still think Why are these two floating point numbers not comparing equal could work as a title. It is defiantly not a dupe.
 
@Cerbrus Dupe: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317391/… cc @JonClements
Mod hammered it
 
Is using the wrong logical operator (|| instead of &&) treatable as typo?
 
1:49 PM
@Kyll I think there'll be dupe
 
@Tushar Went searching for a dupe... Most question asking about JS logical operators are very bad
 
Typo applies as well, I think.
 
@Kyll Not typo, logic error
 
@Tushar Meh. Can't find a proper dupe...
 
1:58 PM
@NathanOliver An edit does not clear NAA flag
There are some rare cases that I never could reproduce where it did
 
@Tunaki Oh. I thought it did. I wonder why we have to do reflag request.
 
I think someone didn't like that I answered 2 or 3 questions in a similar manner. They said to join them here?
not sure what i'm supposed to do
 
@NathanOliver For VLQ
 
@Tunaki Ah. Thanks. Sometimes it is hard to keep this all straight.
 
Yeah...
 
2:04 PM
@voxoid Welcome. Do you know the name of the user that asked you to come here.
 
Idli Dosa Vada Sambar
 
That's @Drew.
Hello Voxoid!
And myself also
 
yes Drew
 
Hey Vox!
 
@JarrodRoberson I left Ronon a message to join us in campaigns room
 
2:04 PM
Yeah, we noticed you left 3 answers that were the same
 
hello! thank you
 
@voxoid Plop and welcome! You currently are in SOCVR, a chatroom devoted to moderation and collaborative clean-up efforts.
 
@voxoid also please meet our chatbot @Kyll
 
Yes, you can order him anything like Sandwich and Tea, and he'll be happy to make it!
 
2:05 PM
@voxoid Generally, we want to keep a single good answer and flag the others questions as duplicate of that good one
 
@Kyll Coffee plz.
 
@kayess I'm the only one around here who passed the Turing test
 
@voxoid The point is to avoid duplicating content, really.
 
@Kyll now if only we can fix your odd word pronunciation
:P
 
Hence the comments
 
2:07 PM
@gunr2171 Hey G!
 
Praveen were missing from that particular point, never seen again...
 
JAL
morning all
 
hello!
 
hello. ok. So my thought was when I google for things and find relevant questions on stack overflow, i help to find the answer i'm looking for. so people in the computer vision world used to find my 2010 OSS + article helpful, then it was gone, so basically i was reconnecting with those people. I did taylor each answer to the particular question though; they were all a little different. do i need to do something?
 
Plop JAL!
 
2:08 PM
Morning
 
Hey JAL
 
@voxoid The more you tailor, the less you have to worry about ... approaching nothing.
 
JAL
sd edited
 
@voxoid Your answers look really alike right now.
 
JAL
it's closed
 
2:09 PM
@Kyll beat you to it and already closed and deleted
 
Added request for tracking purpose
 
Deleted too. :D
Nice.
That's the fastest today. Awesome.
 
Talk about nuking
 
when it's appropriate, it's not a bad thing
 
2:10 PM
Let's Nuke'em all.
@Tunaki Yes!!!
 
@Drew @Tunaki true I reused stuff I had typed. I sincerely think the people finding all 3 of those questions would benefit from the answers.
 
@gunr2171 @JAL Today @NathanOliver should finally have received the shipment. We have to play TF2 asap
 
It's not about do they benefit. It is about cut and paste
 
how is that spam? I'm not seeing it (and never mind)
 
2:11 PM
@voxoid And the questions are not duplicate of each other?
 
@gunr2171 That's like reporting all the vulnerabilities of the devices?
 
@JAL 404
 
JAL
@Tunaki post is gone
 
@JAL Nuked
 
Got Kyll'd.
 
2:12 PM
@Kyll busy tonight, should get the new cpu tonight and installing it
 
@kayess Now let's not be offensive
 
JAL
This week I should be free for TF2
 
@Kyll In what way was that offensive?
 
@kayess It's offensive toward spam.
 
@Kyll processId=17 status=4
 
2:13 PM
@Drew wat
 
@Kyll How?
 
@Tunaki they were requesting similar algorithms, but we not duplicates. One was specifically people tracking. Another was looking to draw a box around an object and track it. the 3rd was similar but different too. they could all reuse the OSS
 
See, passes turing, still not useful :P
 
lol drew
 
@voxoid Fair enough for me.
@Drew satisfied?
 
2:13 PM
If you guys are. I have too many tabs open
 
@Tunaki @Drew haha. ok thanks guys
 
lol
okay
that's settled then
removing comments
 
another satisfied stalkee
 
SOCVR - Converting users, one stalkee at a time.
 
br gone
 
2:16 PM
Hi all o/
 
Hiya o/
 
@BhargavRao: A deletevoted that right before you asked
 
Hi
 
@Cerbrus That's called coincidence :)
 
*Highfives*
 
2:17 PM
That's called having a camera.
Look behind you @BhargavRao. Left of the blue lamp.
 
Lol :D
@Tunaki Actually there is a blue lamp :o
 
@BhargavRao Actually there is a Tunaki watching :o
 
any of you peeps, there's a batch in the hive. I am out recruiting. Mainly, mostly out of close votes
 
@BhargavRao the fish on the whole is watching you
 
@BhargavRao Lol
Now look at its left closely.
 
2:19 PM
@Kyll I'll be on. going to try out the new toys.
 
How dumb of me, I actually looked at the lamp
 
@NathanOliver Nice. If you go to MvM, I suggest the Brass Beast as heavy... Oh and you want to test the Original rocket launcher
 
rene would be happy --> i.stack.imgur.com/kLpXB.png [corners] - [status-completed]
 
How will @rene ever see that message if you don't ping @rene? :P
 
@Kyll Will do.
 
2:21 PM
@Cerbrus Through the camera next to the blue lamp :D
 
JAL
@AndrasDeak Downvote and mod flag explaining the situation
 
@AndrasDeak Mod-flag
 
@AndrasDeak szevasz!:)
 
thanks, will do!:)
@kayess helló:P
 
2:23 PM
Waffle
 
Guys, english.
 
@Cerbrus agree. He asked me whether my name came from a figure in our (Hungarian) history
@kayess and the answer is no, this is my name:P
 
@PetterFriberg Can you check if you are privileged now?
 
So you are that figure from Hungarian history!!
 
although there's allegedly some distant and unsure connection between Ferenc and my family, maybe...
@Tunaki lol:D Trying to keep a low profile here!
 
2:25 PM
What an honor to finally meet someone you read about in history book :)
 
@Tunaki Yeah, I hear that a lot...
 
wth. This is amazing. I don't get it at all, but this is amazing. cc @TinyGiant
 
JAL
@Braiam rolled back your edit. I'm not sure this is a bug or intentional. Keeping the discussion tag for now. Will re-tag if it is in fact a bug.
 
@BhargavRao that's one of my less appealing shots
 
2:28 PM
@AndrasDeak and this is your most appealing? gravatar.com/avatar/…
 
@AndrasDeak 4 signatures on a bank note? Nice
 
@BhargavRao my people are prone to megalomania
or they just assume that all that ink will make it worth more;)
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@PetterFriberg Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
2:30 PM
@AndrasDeak Lol. Will come there someday.
 
@Ferrybig Yep, thanks...
 
JAL
check your privilege bro
I always find it funny when people answer questions with "Although I don't know how to do this, why not make a keyboard shortcut?"
 
Bounty effect.
 
JAL
yup, attracting all the crap
 
2:34 PM
@JAL you will never know if its a bug unless a dev looks at it... they do not follow [discussion]
 
JAL
@Braiam The other members of this room suggested we use discussion since it's not necessarily a bug
 
at worst, you only get a status-bydesign... but, someone looked at it
 
JAL
Good point
go ahead and re-edit
 
nah
too lazy to look for it
 
@Braiam tags everything as [bug]s
@JAL rollback again, it will signal mods also! :P
 
JAL
2:35 PM
I rolled it back
lol
 
@JAL Discussing about that helper queue train, rite?
 
JAL
Anyone who hasn't reviewed yet, come join the review train: stackoverflow.com/review/helper/11326533
choo choo!
 
Oh by the way @BhargavRao, I custom-flagged that comment of yours
 
@Tunaki Grrh! Why?
 
I'm thinking the link to the review should be deleted
To not attract bad edits
 
JAL
2:38 PM
so people don't keep editing that question?
 
Yeah
 
Ah, Now I will refrain from deleting that comment, just to invoke the wrath of Lord Tunkani
 
Fine. You won't have any waffles anymore.
 
@Tunaki lol
@AndrasDeak Nice to meet ya here! Haven't met a lot .hu folks around here...
 
ooops so many nice names and that train, had to put mine....
 
@kayess there are more of us you would believe just based on SO nick names :)
 
@AndrasDeak has edited, but he's not on the train. How?
From the edit queue... :/
 
@BhargavRao No valid ticket. He was kicked out of the train.
 
Lol, He tried to do some mischievous thing but was caught
 
@Shadow Uh, shall we respect a hungarian shadow in your person ?:p
 
2:46 PM
sniffin around looking for mischief
 
Fast. Good.
 
Toooo bad. I didn't put my vote.
 
Hmm, a user was removed and I lost 2 reputation. It's not any of the users who answered my few questions; they all have their accounts still. I guess the only other explanation is that it was a user who accepted my suggested edit years ago?
 
Yeah, your edit count would have come down by 1
 
hmm there's no way to track what it was prior to yesterday though
except I know it was ~1700
 
2:57 PM
sd delete- not spam
 
@TylerH I would go with an old suggested edit.
 
Maybe it was a more recent wiki edit
 
@TylerH Checked it. Could be the post removed or bleh.
 

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