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9:00 PM
@Jhawins he got a degree as well though right?
 
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@loktar nope :)
 
ah damn that sucks
 
Not even an MDiv?
 
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He graduated but the degree doesn't mean anything
 
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Idk I would need to ask for specifics. But they Dont study ANYTHING else at all. Not one class on anything but judeo christian Bible
 
9:01 PM
What school was it?
 
@Jhawins I'm personally non-religious, but I can't say that I know how everything works, so I don't. If I had to label my stance, I'd say I am agnostic. But everyone has the right to believe what they want and I only take issue when people are judgmental pricks
 
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@Shmiddty same here. Agnostic works. Funny thing for me was that I still was on board before I finished my classes that were christian biased. They actually just painted huge holes and uncertainty
 
@rlemon lel. You sneaky bastard. You snuck the glitch colors code into the dark theme extension, didn't you?
 
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I do take offense when someone starts bashing anyone's religion tho (if its offensive) because you're full of shit if you wanna tell anyone else what to think
 
@Jhawins I actually bought into it for awhile myself when I was younger. I was even baptized. That was a pretty gross experience—I mean, the water isn't very clean—but I lived through it.
 
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9:04 PM
I'm justbetter equipped to call it out when its anti christian vs other religions.
 
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@Shmiddty me too. I was 11 I think. Got a cute picture to prove it
 
@Shmiddty lol where were you baptised?
the water was clean for me
 
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The water heater was out that week tho at the church lol. Cold
 
er were there multiple people before you?
I was the only one so it was like a personal bath.
 
@Loktar The church had a little pool of water somewhere in the building. IIRC, it was under the stage
 
9:06 PM
is someObject.constructor usable in all normal environments?
 
that would be nasty I guess, like a line of people. Id rather go down to a river or something
 
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The way I see it whether its real or not it really can help people. Obviate usly it goes wrong a lot but if you can truly honestly believe in your religion it can be very beneficial.
 
@Loktar Definitely would have preferred a river myself. Haha
 
I was baptized in a river... though it wasn't immersion baptism, anyways.
 
@Jhawins yeah thats definitely true. As long as you read the material yourself, or someone trusted does because religion can definitely be twisted well beyond its intention unfortunately :/
 
9:09 PM
I disagree with the statement that just believing is always a good thing. Having a hard-coded world view isn't productive.
 
I don't think anyone said "just believing is always a good thing". Nor anything about a "hardcoded world view"
 
religion IS a hard-coded world view.
 
Define "hard-coded world view", please?
 
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I know I act almost bigotted but I really am very open minded
 
Stop, in the name of love
 
9:11 PM
I knew it would start sooner or later
 
Having views of right and wrong specified for you either explicitly or through your interpretation of a non-changing old book are hard-coded.
doesn't mean all those views are wrong..
 
!!afk time to get some work done
 
Ehh, I'd respond, but I think that would annoy people, so I'll leave that be.
 
i used handlebars instead of mustache and it worked right away..
 
I thought this ws already the topic..
 
9:16 PM
@JoeSaad I think that entitles you to be called Joe Happy
/me heads home
 
I think the previous topic was more talking about what people believed, not attacking and defending the merits of religion itself. Or it's just gone on long enough that people are tired of the topic.
 
I just started using handlebars.. I really like it. It's a rather 'bare' templating engine, but so easily extensible.
 
If you want to continue discussion in a different room, I'm game, but enough on it here.
 
@Loktar ha ha ha.. this is what my coworkers call me.. that's cool
 
lol
 
9:18 PM
So, hey.
I'm gonna go on vacation
and book a hotel on the beach
and bring a cooler of beer and wine
and read a book and do nothing for a week
 
Techincally that last one's a contradiction.
 
I don't believe you >=(
 
unless it's 'Twilight'.
 
Nah, mangs
I have a Robert Jordan book
 
Oooh, read that.
Wheel of Time is the best thing ever.
 
9:20 PM
@rlemon and I did not write a book together that's a lie
 
Okay, there's maybe slight exaggeration in my last message. But I'm a big fan.
 
I got a Kindle a few weeks back and it's AMAZING
 
ok, i can't figure this one out, whenerv i do, , ['ngCookies'] and comment out those $cookies.put lines, the total view is gone. why?
https://github.com/argentum47/angular-store-rails/blob/master/app/scripts/controllers/login.js#L13
 
How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back
 
9:22 PM
@SomeKittens right! I love kindles
 
How cool would playing KSP over telnet be?
 
Like issuing commands?
 
yeah
I want to try it just because
kOS actually runs telnet
 
that's much more hard-core than my attempts at IVA-only missions
 
yeah, would be interesting to try a text-only flight
but Scott Manley can launch into orbit with no screen at all
 
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9:25 PM
sorry to ask again. I still cannot make this work somehow. This pastebin.com/cmPSLC9G is a version that runs perfectly fine alone on a page, once i try to use this code twice in the same page it obviously fails so i need to encapule it. This is my attempt which doesn't work: pastebin.com/UHPWyV70 Anybody here can give me any tips on this? ..
 
can you make working fiddle?
well, by 'working' I mean, shows the problem
 
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i dont think i can, it uses threeJS and i dont think you can include the whole needed threeJS stuff in a jsfiddle?
 
@Shiuyin yeah you can
 
user1648409
oh ok :)
 
you can include three.js just like jQuery
 
9:28 PM
if it's not in the dropdown, you can paste in a url. like from cdnjs.com
 
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ok guys
 
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gimme a sec
 
the assets are going to be a problem..
 
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ye that to...
 
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dont know how to include that in three js
 
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9:35 PM
i could just upload that stuff somewhere fully or as a zip? ..
 
is it in github?
(or similar)
 
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ah wait, ill up that on github
 
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great idea
 
what are you doing "twice on a page"? 2 containers, calling init() twice?
 
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yes
 
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9:37 PM
and thats the problem because it obviously overrides the external variables like container, renderer etc when calling init() the second time
 
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so i need to encapsule it in order that those important variables dont get overriden
 
yea. I'd make it into a class. Seems you are trying something similar with Body().
 
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yes i tried that
 
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i just keep getting spammed with errors and i cant seem to fix it
 
yea, it might be clear if I can see it run
 
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9:40 PM
sec, im preparing 2 packets and put them on github
 
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@Luggage: well i hosted the working example here now: file-upload.net/download-10497309/working.zip.html
 
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hope it works now, i had to copy it out of the whole project
 
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as for the 2nd part i will throw together the not working example now...
 
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ah well, that was already the not working example
 
@Shmiddty April Fools!
 
9:49 PM
@rlemon Shmiddty is afk: time to get some work done
 
fuck that site. 2 of the 'download' button i tried were shit.
 
user1648409
... ok
 
once tried to give mea .dmg with an installer, the other told my my player was out of date
what is this place?
 
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i just googled for "file upload"
 
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dont know about that site :D
 
9:52 PM
git init
git add --all
git commit -m "initial commit"
git remote add origin git@github.com:Shuiyin/three-problem
git push origin master
 
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> JavaScript: Boycotting April Fool's day.
 
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thanks for your patience @Luggage
 
@SomeKittens the room might be, my extension did not
 
ohh, this is the broken version
 
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10:00 PM
yes it is
 
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its the one where i tried to write it as a class
 
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and give instances of those class into init
 
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which will pass the body reference to all other functions where it is needed
 
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that was my train of thought as i know it from Java
 
the secone time animate gets called it has a number in the 'body' argument
 
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10:02 PM
ye and i dont know why ...
 
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body is a class - shouldnt it be an object then instead of some stupid number?
 
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the error console also mocks about the requestAnimationFrame etc. There is quite some stuff that he doesnt want to do when it was perfectly fine for one execution of this code
 
requestAnimationFrame passes in the elapsed time as the first arg
that's where the number is coming from
I'd refactor to use 'this' instead of having body passed in as an argument.
 
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i tried to write the whole thing into a this construct beforehand
 
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there are several problems with it
 
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10:06 PM
1. it didn't work once i rewrote the whole thing to "this"
 
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2. it would have several renderers, several mouse instances, several cameras and controls
 
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but controls, mouse etc are just once there - like a singleton
 
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it doesn't make sense to have more than 1 or 2 mouses instances
 
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i am on this problem for 2 days now and since i know very little about JavaScript (im more the Java / PHP guy) this is pretty hard for me
 
10:10 PM
Yea, your only problems are related to 'this' and scope and how classes are emulated in JS
 
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i have 50 more minutes time
 
Once you get that you'll 'get' JS. Lemme play with it
 
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shall i quickly rewrite it to "this" and upp it again?
 
don't just doa search and place if you don't know what you are going for
 
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i guess you understand why i am stuck at that problem :D
 
10:12 PM
@Neal they have arrived .... sharethecube.com
:/
 
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@Luggage: What shall i do now in your opinion?
 
lemme play and see ifi can make it work
then i'll know what advice to give
 
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oh ok, thanks :)
 
taking a lot of refactoring. you you have the 'working' version? That might be able to be fixed with one function wrapper
 
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working Version: pastebin.com/iMnBh3At
 
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10:24 PM
nearly the same code
 
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function call would be like <script>init("myDivID");</script>
 
@Shmiddty re: #16 -- imo it is easier to implement an 'options' page for the extension than a popup page.
 
@rlemon Shmiddty is afk: time to get some work done
 
I say that having never implemented a successful options page, but I have worked with the background pages and popup pages before
 
@Shiuyin damn, jsut white screen, no errors
 
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10:30 PM
hm
 
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does he actually execute the loader part?
 
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and reaches the animate part?
 
ohh, the files weren't found
i't slooking in images/ not the root
 
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oh damn ye
 
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i coped the working code which obviously looks in our project structure
 
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10:31 PM
sorry..
 
whew,, got it displaying a headless body
 
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are you able to select body parts
 
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by clicking on them?
 
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are you able to rotate the body with the mouse?
 
yup
 
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10:35 PM
oh cool
 
got it all working (single). now to apply the possible cheap fix, a functino wrapper
 
user1648409
ah you mean those anonymous function wrappers like
function() ( ...); ?
 
yea, basically
JS only has 2 scopes. global and funcrtion
 
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read about them today, didn't actually try that one
 
10:38 PM
this thing 100% height? trying to squeeze ina second one to try
 
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we currently have it at 50% i guess, but you can do as you like :)
 
this is the fix i'm trying github.com/luggage66/temp/commit/…
but it's only working on the second one. no error, though
 
user1648409
hm
 
that function wrapper SHOULD isolate all your previously-global variables
 
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lemme test that local on my side
 
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10:42 PM
brb
 
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hm ye
 
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doesnt work on my side to
 
ohh, durp, that doesnt' help. the variables are not global, but they are still shared..
I think i can fix it, htough
 
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how are they shared if they are not global?
 
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javascript just doesnt make any sense to me :D
 
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10:49 PM
interested in your fix though :P
 
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but i guess scene, renderer, etc. are still overriden by each other - correct?
 
out of curiosity, how is the JavaScript room boycotting April Fool's day?
 
So.. I made the variable 'private' before, but there was still on copy
 
@AlvaroMontoro By kicking anyone who asks about it.
 
10:51 PM
this time, each time the outer 'init' is called, it created a new set.
it's no longer a self-executing function, it's just a fucntion with inner functions
 
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hah
 
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cool stuff
 
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there is still one problem though: try selecting body parts ;)
 
@SecondRikudo Oops
 
selecting body parts didn't work to begin with for me
 
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10:52 PM
are you executing this via file:// ?
 
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or via http:// ?
 
i had to start a web server since it didnt' like file://
 
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ye
 
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but then you should be able to select body parts by clicking on them
 
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but never mind
 
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i guess scene is still shared by each instance or somewhat
 
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i will have a look onto this tomorrow
 
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should have went to sleep ages ago, need to get up in 5hrs
 
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thanks a lot @Luggage you really did help a lot
 
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there is no way to "vote up" in chat right?
 
10:57 PM
Nope, just remember to read up on JS scopes and 'this'. It's key.
 
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will do..
 
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thanks a lot again, i have to go now
 
user1648409
good night guys
 
aww, my car doesn't have a JSON api :(
 
is it a bad practice to set a conditional statement inside another conditional statement?
 
11:03 PM
I can't think of why.. you mean an if inside an if?
or you mean ternary inside ternary?
(conditionA ? resultA : (conditionB ? resultB : resultC))
 
if () { if () {} else {} } else {}
oh boy.. that syntax is new for me :D
 
ohh. nothing wrong with it if it's readable.
 
Fuck WYSIWYG editors!
 
too much nesting can lead to a situation where you don't realize when it's falling out of one else and into another, or you don't have all possible outcome accounted for
but otherwise, no problems.
 
I love to put alerts on my code, and go slowly ^^ I think that's not a problem
Thank you!
 
11:15 PM
@monners meh
 
11:35 PM
Guysss anyone good with knockout?
 
Hello!!! Is here anyone familiar with matlab?
 
ask the question
maybe someone is a beginner in it but your problem is basic...
 
oh okay, so if i use value binding, it does not show placeholder!!! why is that?
instead it shows the value of view model property
 
@CSᵠ It isn't that basic... :/
 
subjective topic
but maybe you're right
 
11:46 PM
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what does non breaking means
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11:50 PM
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