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12:00 AM
As a web developer, how hard would it be for me to move to AI/robotics?
 
impossible
 
user4330208
Easier than coming from being a cake baker.
 
@carb0nshel1 Have you though about a move like this before?
 
user4330208
actual physical AI in robotics is no doubt easier to anyone whose made games before.
 
@carb0nshel1 Are you sure? As a cake baker you get to experience industrial processing
 
12:02 AM
@StevensHaen if you are dedicated, why not?
 
user4330208
I'm actually using web design as a prerequisite to get to making my own iron man suit.
 
@rlemon I mean, AI is a bout as fascinating as it could get, but still, I'm not exactly the most qualified for the job out there.
 
not yet
if you wanna learn about it sit down and give it a go
 
We're attempting to launch... it may or may not result in simply rolling back and trying again tomorrow
 
I'm looking for opinions to actually grow balls, I know it's doable.
 
12:04 AM
my opinion is grow a pair and do it
there, now go do it
 
@rlemon I'm scared
 
user4330208
...
 
user4330208
scared of what?
 
user4330208
are u a man?
 
user4330208
watch fightclub.
 
12:05 AM
@StevensHaen you wanna do robotics and AI? first figure out what specifically you would like to do in those two broader areas.
then look at some things you can do to get started in those areas
 
Scared that I'll become an extreme nerd past the point of no return. No prospects of real life, goofy as hell. Reminds me of the fear/fascination relationship I had with quantum mechanics.
 
Hey, sounds like me
 
that is a stupid reason not to do it.
> afraid I'll become too nerdy.
bah
 
I'm fascinated, but also have respect for it. It can change you beyond what you thought is possible. Web dev is still on the human side.
 
user4330208
I don't know man, I think nerd is the new black anyway
 
user4330208
12:08 AM
Anything can do that to you. Its a matter of who you are to begin with.
 
There's nerd and then nerd 2.0 (theoretical physicists, hardcore mathematicians, AI)
 
if I was a room owner, I'd ban you every day, @carb0nshel1
 
user4330208
:(
 
@rlemon It's a legit concern.
How am I going to date a girl ever again?
 
not really
I have no more interest in this. it isn't a serious discussion.
bad trolling
 
user4330208
12:09 AM
you are concerned that AI will make it harder to date girls?
 
user4330208
If you are a coder, your logic should be better than this @StevensHaen
 
I have to think about it hard, I may be too negative.
 
user4330208
And thats coming from a troll. Think about that.
 
finally docked
 
@KendallFrey did you do it?
 
12:10 AM
I'm in orbit
refuelling
 
hi
 
how much of a pita was that?
 
user4330208
Halo? @KendallFrey
 
more than it should have been
I didn't bring enough batteries and rcs thrusters on my refueller
 
scrub mission?
 
12:11 AM
no way
it just took longer
I may need to bring a refueller up for my refueller
 
toiec
 
user4330208
!!welcome @happenask
 
@carb0nshel1 You iz in mindjail
 
user4330208
wtf
 
OH FUCK DONT DO THAT KENDALL
 
12:15 AM
@carb0nshel1 You were abusing the bot, now you're not allowed to use it. Why is that surprising?
 
user4330208
That was like my only command to it in years
 
Do you really think I'm that stupid?
 
yes
no
just kidding
marry me
 
!!choose yes no
 
@SomeKittens That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: whoosh
 
12:16 AM
> member for 3 months
only command in years
funny, you a funny guy
 
refueller is reentering
BOOM
 
explode?
 
hey all :)
 
I don't put parachutes on unmanned craft :)
 
but... you can save money!
 
12:20 AM
well, in career mode I do
on the rare occasion that they come back
 
I have a corsair gaming keyboard, K 95 RGB with led.. Anyone know how I would get the rpm output from assetto corse, and have it light on my keyboard?
 
@sunto yes
someone made a lib one sec
 
oh how nice :)
 
its pretty rough
and I havent used it personally.. but it is possible
check out his other repos too, he has done at least one more
 
12:23 AM
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aha, looks cool :) Thanks
 
np I have the k65
so I was looking into this stuff a while back lol
 
hehe ah nice :)
 
hhnnnnnnnnngg
 
lol @NickDugger dude you ok?
 
12:27 AM
we're launching
maybe
My sanity is gone
 
just hit spacebar, and away you go. easy!
 
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jsbin.com/coveyeruqe/1/edit?output. Notice the HSL approach works even in RGB hex. One thing I'm seeing now is colors can be thought of in many different ways. Just like Newtons gravity vs Einsteins, they describe the same thing in different ways.
 
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Beautiful, really.
 
dat gravity analogy...
 
what is taters, eh?
 
user4330208
12:30 AM
Pretty good doe?
 
Einstein's gravity describes Newton's gravity, but not vice versa
 
@NickDugger a fried potato snack
I prefer my taters totted.
 
user4330208
dude, you always mess up my analogys
 
user4330208
always
 
user4330208
12:31 AM
lol
 
user4330208
I still love you man.
 
Hey there
 
@josegomezr Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
I am a hobbyist theoretical physicist
 
user4330208
in a non gay way
 
12:31 AM
don't mess with the theories
 
I am a hobbyist mtn dew drinker
 
Im a hobbyist sleeper does dat count?
 
@NickDugger so semi pro neckbeard?
 
user4330208
it doesn't matter in my analogy technically though because all i was comparing it to was different ways to think about the same thing.
 
I fedora you
 
user4330208
12:32 AM
GG kendall, GG.
 
I'm a hobby Engineer, it says so on my website so it has to be true.
 
user4330208
Can you be a hobbyist hobbyist?
 
no
 
user4330208
Like, occasionally, you have a hobby, as a hobby.
 
@rlemon in stable mun orbit. request permission to switch engines.
 
12:34 AM
no landing?
 
not yet
 
you can switch engines whenever.
 
I can't switch engines on the surface
 
you only used two stages right?
 
sorta
 
12:35 AM
lol
 
user4330208
Kendall are you prepping for Mars One?
 
one stage for takeoff, one for switching, one for ditching rockets before reentry, one for chutes
 
Are you preparing for Uranus two? badumtsssss
 
the whole trip to and from Mun is two stages
 
user4330208
Mars One is a non-profit organization based in the Netherlands that has put forward plans to land the first humans onto Mars and establish a permanent human colony there by 2027. The private spaceflight project is led by Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdorp, who announced plans for the Mars One project in May 2012. The project's schedule, technical and financial feasibility, as well as ethics have been widely criticized by scientists, engineers and those in the aerospace industry. Mars One's original concept included launching a robotic lander and orbiter as early as 2016 to be followed by a human crew...
 
12:35 AM
@KendallFrey if you make this ditch and open chute at the same time
3 stages
 
I don't open chutes while reentering
 
but you can
unless they changed that
 
but I don't
 
but .. one less stage!
 
but fuck it
 
12:36 AM
bah
 
now to find a landing spot
 
veronica mars
 
sailor moon
 
deployment went throgh, but IIS won't start
 
user4330208
12:43 AM
Wow, so fake.
 
user4330208
They got their primary colors wrong.
 
@carb0nshel1 this room is not your personal soapbox
 
light != pigment
noobs
 
user4330208
So someKittens says something to me, either a statement or a question. No matter what I say in response I'm getting kicked. :( see you on the flip side guys.
 
12:46 AM
mines an example of subtractive color mixing: paint on a white background...
 
YUSSS
 
noob
 
boon
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey nice
 
1:07 AM
time to get home @KendallFrey
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey you can land on either side haha
 
I could have made a rocket that flips itself after it lands
that would be too much work
 
@Jhawins he wanted a challenge, so I told him two rockets strapped face to face, two stages. mun and back
 
reentering now
 
it's gonna crash
 
1:15 AM
naw
 
i am gonna buy book i can read on way to work
recommand books no matter what kind of ~!
 
that was fun, thanks @rlemon
 
It's slow, but we launched! thegreensheet.com -- pls no hax
 
user4330208
singularity is near but can't happen with current computers no matter how faster they get, or better.
 
1:28 AM
We've been talking about how imminently near we are to the singularity since... like the 50s?
 
user4330208
I tried programming a computer to be conscious. It didn't understand.
 
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OpenCog is a project that aims to build an open source artificial intelligence framework. OpenCog Prime is a cognitive architecture for robot and virtual embodied cognition that defines a set of interacting components designed to give rise to human-equivalent artificial general intelligence (AGI) as an emergent phenomenon of the whole system. OpenCog Prime's design is primarily the work of Ben Goertzel while the OpenCog framework is intended as a generic framework for broad-based AGI research. Research utilizing OpenCog has been published in journals and presented at conferences and worksho...
 
@Retsam even 100 years is not very long in the grand scheme of things.
 
100 inches on the other hand...
 
user4330208
The biggest problem with singularity is there's nothing a coder can do to make a sentient being. The hardware has to change.
 
1:30 AM
@carb0nshel1 I don't think you quite understand
the singularity isn't necessarily related to sentience
 
@rlemon I mean, it's not, sure, but who's to say we're within a 100 years of it?
 
@Retsam Ray Kurzweil
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey no dude if you can find the stick of consciousness you can find the right hardware. And from there it'll just make itself anyway so
 
user4330208
@kendall yeah, but my mom thinks Siri is a conscious being. Thats all singularity will ever be with current hardware. Suped out Siris.
 
user4330208
Siri doesn't actually understand s***.
 
user4330208
1:32 AM
Just following orders.
 
@carb0nshel1 what makes you more than a "suped out Siri"
??
 
@rlemon Ah, well, me and the great prophet Ray Kurzweil may have to agree to disagree, then.
 
but the whole point of the discussion is that it won't be the current hardware
 
user4330208
I have a....
 
user4330208
nm.
 
1:32 AM
@Retsam have you ever read his literature?
 
user1596138
@carb0nshel1 is siri really not real
 
user4330208
current hardware i mean like the whole paradigm of computers has to change.
 
@carb0nshel1 I'd love to hear your explanation of why
 
user1596138
Paradigm is a good word to use when you don't know what you want to say
 
@rlemon I've studied some AI, but I haven't read his specifically.
 
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1:33 AM
Because it doesn't matter how fast you make your car. You still aren't going lightspeed.
 
@Retsam then why so blindly condescending?
 
user4330208
GG.
 
The only time I ever use the word paradigm is when I'm 5 cents short of a quarter
@carb0nshel1 what are you talking about, what does that have to do with AI?
 
and I say blindly, because "the great prophet" was clearly meant as sarcasm to a very well put argument by a very accomplished AI pioneer which you have not even read.
 
@rlemon Because I don't think I need to read his specific claims to know that predicting what we're going to invent is a tricky business. If we knew what we were going to invent, we'd have invented it already.
 
1:34 AM
singularity is coming as serious issue
 
user4330208
k. Ill let my words marinate with you guys for a few hours. But Just think about it.
 
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Come back once you have.
 
I would if I had anything to think about
 
good recommendation
 
I use the words "the great prophet" sarcastically, yes, not out of disrespect, but to suggest out that "the singularity is near" is more a statement of faith than of fact.
 
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1:36 AM
lol serious though you can't program consciousness unless you understand it. We don't. Also even if we did the computer is responding to preset parameters, its not like free will in its truest sense.
 
@Retsam look up the man, maybe pick up the book. you'll see the title falls in line with his other titles.
 
user4330208
Ive read alot on singularity and its pretty cool concept, but its not happening on silicon and transistors.
 
I'm not saying he is right. I choose to follow his optimism, but of course it is just a futurist afterall.
but he does have a very interesting past and theory on the future. (he's made a career of it)
 
@carb0nshel1 why?
silicon and transistors are turing-complete
 
Hey guys
 
user4330208
1:39 AM
I'm trying to put my words together, give me a minute.
 
user4330208
: Because it just cant?
 
@rlemon I'm sure he's intelligent and has good points. I just tend to roll my eyes that often the same sort of people who look at anyone with religious faith as "insufficiently skeptical" tend to be really quick to jump onto ideas like this
 
user4330208
Take my Siri analogy, A suped up Siri isn't actually intelligent.
 
@carb0nshel1 you don't need to program consciousness or artificial brain that is exactly like a human brain
you can just build something that constantly learns
 
@Retsam that is jumping from one thing to another all together.
 
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1:40 AM
No matter how far we go, siri will not actually understand our words. Only the 0's and 1's will she understand.
 
have fun with that one.
 
@carb0nshel1 What are you imagining? A female robot that can please you?
 
user1596138
lol yeah build something that learns on it's own then you don't have to do anything... Wait..
 
user4330208
^^
 
user4330208
A man can hope.
 
1:41 AM
@Jhawins enhance yourself so you can learn more efficient ;) that is what the singularity is about.
 
is there a simply way to check if two objects are identical if two objects are stored in array like:

[0] = {'x':23,'y':21}
[1] = {'x':23,'y':21}
 
@carb0nshel1 U can't definetely build it in javascript though
maybe in Python
 
trying to reduce duplication
 
@carb0nshel1 I've heard intelligence defined as being able to make useful predictions. So we certainly have mildly intelligent computers.
 
user4330208
We can build a learning computer no problem. But what I'm talking about is a conscious, independent, mind
 
1:42 AM
@Dave you want to eliminate dupes?
before entry? after?
 
@carb0nshel1 then you have to define consciousness
 
yeah so basically delete [1] (after entry)
 
@rlemon I'm not claiming that religious faith and believing in a singularity are the same thing... though I would argue that belief in the singularity is a form of faith.
 
@carb0nshel1 Yeah but, you cannot build it in Javascript. you should use Python with Django
 
user4330208
@EnglishMaster maybe node.js?
 
1:43 AM
nah
it's not powerful enough
It doesn't have enough threads to handle all those learning loads
 
thank you
 
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A: Remove Duplicates from JavaScript Array

georg"Smart" but naïve way uniqueArray = a.filter(function(item, pos) { return a.indexOf(item) == pos; }) Basically, we iterate over the array and, for each element, check if the first position of this element in the array is equal to the current position. Obviously, these two positions are dif...

 
Quantum computing doesn't solve general problems.
someone kicked?
 
1:46 AM
3 messages moved to Trash
 
:P
 
Me, sorry, I'm getting sick of them feeding each other
s/doesn't solve/hasn't yet been proven to/
 
yes, sorry
 
:P
I hope they work out arbitrary computation
 
I'm still of the mindset that Molecular computing will hold something promising
 
2:01 AM
@rlemon doesn't dna computing blow out infinitely in space (as opposed to time)?
I seem to remember being shown how you could compute huge travelling salesman problems instantaneously but it would require as much DNA as the sun or something
 
hybrid technology
always works when you hybrid
:D
 
:)
I did a paper at uni called "Advanced Computer Systems" my favourite was the pool ball computer
A billiard-ball computer, also known as a conservative logic circuit, is an idealized model of a reversible mechanical computer based on Newtonian dynamics, proposed in 1982 by Edward Fredkin and Tommaso Toffoli. Instead of using electronic signals like a conventional computer, it relies on the motion of spherical billiard balls in a friction-free environment made of buffers against which the balls bounce perfectly. It was devised to investigate the relation between computation and reversible processes in physics. == Simulating circuits with billiard balls == This model can be used to simulate...
 
launched. things are well. bedtime. kill me
 
2:18 AM
Hi
@phenomnomnominal cool
 
user4330208
U got banned too, huh?
 
user4330208
Welcome to the club.
 
user4330208
rlemon. Molecular computing is a perfect example at what I'm talking about.
 
user4330208
I think I won this argument. I'm going to go now. Good day mates.
 
You think you won an argument?
My, you are delusional
 
2:21 AM
@KendallFrey He was leaving!
 
user4330208
lolol
 
user4330208
i never leave anyway
 
user4330208
unless phenom kicks me
 
user4330208
like hes about to do...sigh
 
2:22 AM
I'm not that predictable.
Oh wait. I am.
 
user4330208
u had your hand on the button
 
@carb0nshel1 do you think you could try to change your behaviour so that you don't get kicked?
Like seriously. Pavlov would've hated you.
 
user4330208
@phenomnomnominal I don't know, I never really tried. I've always been this way.
 
user4330208
I could give it a shot.
 
@carb0nshel1 I like your front-photo btw, it is so complex, which remind me of something related to AI, molecular computing and calculus all combined.
 
user4330208
2:24 AM
I think @EnglishMaster is a worse troll than me Phenom. Leave the small fish like me alone.
 
That would be really great. Because seriously, this is meant to be a constructive place. Conversation is great, discussion is great. But random off-topic bullshit and trying to bait people into arguments is really annoying. This goes for @EnglishMaster too.
 
user4330208
@phenomnomnominal As much as you may dislike me I respect you, I respect everyone here and love SO for some reason. So I guess I could try. Sorry for offending anyone earlier aswell.
 
Ok, I wish @carb0nshel1 stop baiting me into his molecular computing randomness from now
It sounds so interesting to me
 
user4330208
See what I mean? I'm not a real troll when it comes down to it. I'm just man with unresolved issues in love with coding.
 
@carb0nshel1 Being only the second most troublesome person in the room is hardly a good position to be in.
 
user4330208
2:27 AM
I'll stop here. Enough about the past. @EnglishMaster sorry. I love philosophy and religion too. Maybe we can talk sometime in a diff setting.
 
Start a private room.
 
Please don't give us a live stream of every off-color comment you're not making.
 
user4330208
Ok. Constructiveness. So how about Jquery? I hear its becoming overused.
 
does anyone do angular with .Net MVC?
 
3:22 AM
#content * {
	box-sizing: content-box;
} // FML
 
4:01 AM
sort your shit out @carb0nshel1
 
/votekick @carb0nshel1
 
@EnglishMaster you too.
 
Ok sorry
 
user4330208
Seriously, I want to learn. How was that deserving of you being pissed off at me?
 
user4330208
I was just talking about codepen
 
user4330208
4:04 AM
afk.
 
..
(missed one)
 
user4330208
I love you guys but I think 4Chan will give me more freedom of expression
 
user4330208
I hate to do this, but, bye.
 
Bye!
 
> The user has already been kicked from this room.
 
4:14 AM
I don't know if I've ever been this happy.
 
@phenomnomnominal Happiness is strictly forbidden in the JS room
 
@monners I'm wearing a t-shirt today that says "Sad as fuck"
 
@phenomnomnominal pics.
 
I'll take one when I get home, not a fan of office selfies haha
 
Tease...
 
4:22 AM
;)
 
sup beaches
 
Excuse me???
 
Oh, pardon me.
 
Ruffian...
 
Roustabout
 
4:32 AM
Rascal
 
Larrikins, the both of you!
 
¬_¬
 
oh yeah @monners I'm supposed to hate you right now
 
Why?
 
Oh shit. I forgot to lick your elbow.
 
4:33 AM
Cricket!
 
Oh, right. That strange sport for damaged people.
 
Don't worry, I'll lick it for you
..
..
DRATTED HOOLIGANS
 
dem's fighten werds
All the good dueling pistols images have some pretty interesting obfuscation security
found one!
pistols at dawn!
 
¡HUZZAH!
 
⸘por que‽
 
4:43 AM
:( empty square
 
on your macbook?
It's the interrobang!? The best of all punctuation!?
 
Windows :(
at work
 
on call or something?
 
si!
 
4:47 AM
Oh, the ending one worked, not the leading one though
was it an uspide down one?
 
exactamón
not sure about the ligature there
 
⸘POR QUE MARIAAAAAA‽
You ever watch any of those cheesy Mexican soap operas?
 
4:53 AM
nah I watch cheesy NZ soap operas, they're bad enough!
 
haha
I mean, all soap operas are inherently terrible
 
there main one here is called Shortland Street. Worst TV show ever!
 
That's a bold claim, sir
 
@phenomnomnominal As an American, nuh uh.
 
4:57 AM
I mean, I'm not really equipped to take up this debate.
 
It's really bad, they went to HD a few years back, now it looks like a school play
 
hahaha
It's funny how that works.
 
Took them a while to get used to doing makeup not shit I guess
 

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