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10:00 PM
Why do you need an absolute url? does it point to a different url than the current site or something?
 
I think the best way to protest in today's world is
by popularizing
#isAmericaGreatyet
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for the entire next 4 year xD
 
@KevinB because in dev I want the script tag to be pointing at localhost, but in prod i want the script to point to something else
 
Can we stop talking about politics? I don't care if Trump just got sworn in, I don't care what some random politician has said or done, it's off-topic, and frankly, annoying.
 
You are talking about topic in JavaScript room.
 
^this
 
10:09 PM
This room is purely democratic. Heck we even have an elected council.
 
@Abhishrek But do they have the majority vote?
 
@ivarni yes.
 
But then... wait what if... ah never mind
 
@ivarni The people who disagree with majority here stay :P
@TrojanByAccident That is the very reason why we ended up at this point globally :P
 
@Abhishrek ?
 
10:12 PM
Yeah I couldn't quite parse that either
 
people not caring, I assume
 
@TrojanByAccident There's no definitive room topic as this is a community and not a tech support centre.
If you find things offensive or overly disruptive then do voice your concern or ping room owners, but note that since there's no one "topic" it's sometimes difficult to term something as "off-topic"
 
cue room name change to "Politics (and JavaScript)
 
@Zirak D: wow!
 
@Zirak Alright then, it's "controversial"
 
10:14 PM
@Mosho Make room 17 great again
 
Politics.js
 
jquery.js
 
How is it controversial? Can sane people not have a meaningful discussion about politics?
 
@TrojanByAccident So it "should I use react"
 
@ivarni we need a wall around jquery
 
10:14 PM
@Abhishrek Are you new on the internet? :)
 
$(Obama).fadeOut();
$(Trump).fadeIn();
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@ivarni No, but things become controversial when people start flaming people for no reason, and are just hell bent on trolling. Internet can also be used for sane and meaningful discussions.
 
@Abhishrek Politics is a controversial topic by nature, and even more so on the internet
 
you're free to have said conversation here, but if asked to stop, not doing so wouldn't be in your best interest
 
@Abhishrek (I'm agreeing with you btw, just pulling chains)
 
10:15 PM
@TrojanByAccident right, and its not going to become less controversial by hiding it under the rugs.
 
@TrojanByAccident so is every topic people can possibly disagree on
 
like this one
 
Fucking christ on the Internet even saying Earth is sphere controversial.
 
just because a topic is controversial doesn't meant we cannot discuss it. just means we should be careful not to cause a shitstorm
 
10:16 PM
Hey, people all around the globe support the flat earth theory
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Yep :)
 
as long as everyone is peaceful I don't see an issue.
 
It's not a globe
It's flat
 
@ivarni They'll get flat earth ;) [grave]
 
Hey, people all around the flat support the globe theory
 
10:17 PM
whatevs *shrugs*
 
But on a more serious note, you'll eventually encounter people who believe in something you don't agree with and that's fine
 
No. We must purge ignorance.
 
can we focus on a real problem. they're rebooting Dinosaurs
 
That's not a problem
That's a solution
 
unless I get this foam suit shit back, it's a problem
 
Now that we've proven that anyone could be president, It's time we get Guy Fieri to start campaigning for 2020.
 
Nah, Kanye West 2020
 
@ivarni and beyonce vp?
 
hey, have you ever had a programming job that was perfect..or better than others you have had? As in technology, culture etc
 
@NathanJones I was thinking Taylor Swift but sure
 
10:30 PM
Nah, Kanye for President and VP, nobody loves Kanye like Kanye loves Kanye.
 
@BrianJ I just got laid off from that job... I mean, there was tons of pain points, but the culture was amazing
 
Sorry to hear that :/
 
@BrianJ I was in highschool once
 
@towc You still are
 
well, yeah. It just doesn't sound that smart anymore, and the joke is less funny than how it already was
 
10:32 PM
ah cool I'm just wondering if the tech stack and culture can make one job better than another.
 
@BrianJ definitely
 
I've been through two jobs so far, current is way better but still curious if there is even better out there.
 
I can't speak from experience, but every sign points to yes
there's always a better job
 
Absolutely. Culture is how you retain people. Tech stack helps contribute to culture. If you have a shit ton of systems running on legacy versions of java with no plan in sight for upgrade, you pobably have a lot of older developers that specialize in legacy java systems and such contribute to an older, outadted culture.
 
@BrianJ I'm on a team right now where everyone's eager to learn and every other PR has interesting discussions about everything from HTML semantics to how to optimize code or make use of new ES features.
 
10:34 PM
I mean I spend time working on project in stacks I like, but it seems maybe there are better places in the world to live and better projects, more meaningful projects and teams wo work with
 
Ah, you're looking for meaning in your work...
Yeah, I struggle with that too
 
define meaningful?
 
Something that actually contributes to society; something to help people. Not just another shitty project management software that people use wrong anyways
 
@ndugger i think i have the a desire like that too. i'm in a position that has the potential to have meaning, but i'm not nearly as skilled or productive as i could be to fulfill that potential
 
Gotcha. Working on a customer-facing project gives me that. I try my best to help push the code towards something that is accessible to everyone wether they're blind or on a shitty mobile connection. I like that better than working with internal apps.
 
10:37 PM
yeah I mean I like the programming, thinking about putting all the pieces together..working with other people and getting ideas together. But really the end users and the purpose of the business
doesn't really excite me..
 
@NathanJones That's where you want to be. You have an incentive to learn
 
@ivarni yes! now go read my gist and help me out
jk jk
i hope i'm not a help vampire here
 
@NathanJones Like I said, I just introduced hjs-webpack to our project because I just cba to learn webpack internals good enough to roll my own config :) I'd rather make actual stuff.
 
I've always wondered if changing where I live would give me a new perspective on my career
but that's probably not the answer
 
@BrianJ I've done it twice.
Moved from Minnesota, to Ohio, then to Texas, and then back to Minnesota
Definitely gave me some perspective
 
10:40 PM
move to Canada
you'll get perspective and poutine
 
like if I lived in a different place I'd have a chance to define what type of life I wanted.
 
Aren't Canadanians just unarmed Americans with health insurance?
 
working so close to where I grew up seems too familiar
and how did you find the move? @ndugger
 
what is a Canadanian?
 
@BrianJ I don't understand the question. Finding a new job is easy. I just found one in Texas, and moved there.
No big deal
 
10:41 PM
A person from Canada? Speaks Canadanian and likes maple syrup
 
Just rubber ducking, but I think I might try integrating my webpack with our gulp tasks that are responsible for deploy-related tasks
 
user2620028
@ndugger a person from Canadia
 
ohh you mean A Canadian
yea, Canadians are awesome
 
@rlemon Canada is attractive..lots of young people from here immigrated there
 
blame trump just doesn't have the same ring that blame obama did
 
10:42 PM
Thanks Trump
 
@ndugger did you feel you got to know yourself better moving to a new place?
 
@BrianJ I definitely got to know my abilities and expectations a lot better
 
hmm yeah my plan currently is to stay here two years then make a move
learn as much as I can development wise..then give it a go
 
Where do you live now and where do you want to move to?
I've always believed you can get the same effect from just changing employer but then I never really moved anywhere
 
I live in Ireland, have thought about Canada..Germany or maybe back to UK
 
10:46 PM
Ireland sounds rad, I've always wanted to go there
 
I mean I don't dislike the employer..I guess the city is a bit too familiar and work not as interesting
yeah Ireland is good..I guess people just like to wander further
 
i sortof... went through this period of time a few years ago where i felt that way. I was looking for a way out, a change, something to grow my career... but the reality is you have the power to make that change yourself. you don't need a change of employment for that, that's all on you. (though, a change of employment/location can certainly force the point, but it may just end up being temporary)
 
If you can get a work permit, we're quite short on programmers in Norway
 
Ireland is so small
 
@KevinB so you mean don't wait for a new job etc..decide and make a decision to move to a new place or job?
 
10:49 PM
The world is actually really small too, but yeah, you need to experience something bigger
 
well, what i mean is evaluate if a new job is actually what you need to get the fulfilment you want.
 
@ndugger That's the worst pickup line ever :p
 
@ndugger yeah it is small..I lived in London and Thailand for a bit..Thailand was a weird one
short periods like 6 months
 
@ivarni Hey man, whatever works
 
user6438653
Shiet!
 
10:51 PM
@KevinB yeah a new job or just a new location
I think the job is good
 
for me, i felt i was stuck here, working with old technology maintaining old shit, but... that just means I have the opportunity to change all of that, push for new technology, new solutions, etc
 
feel like I'm missing out being in such a small city
 
@BrianJ It sounds like you just need some inspiration
 
user6438653
Don't create an udacity account!
 
user6438653
You can't delete it.
 
user6438653
10:52 PM
Dodgy mother f*ckers.
 
@ivarni I have never been to Norway tbh
 
i mean... isn't it relatively common to not be able to delete your account?
 
user6438653
Not really.. A deactivation would be semi okay, like fb.
 
user6438653
There's no buttons! for anything!
 
@Trasiva dude that's awesome! Good luck man!
 
10:55 PM
@ivarni yeah I need to start up some side projects again..
 
user6438653
F*ck udacity!
 
@BrianJ I started a company where I freelance on my own. It brings meaning to the random shit I do on my spare time, I get to choose my own techs and I'm actually making stuff that people use. It's way more fun that just making random stuff noone will ever use. Or I guess seek out an open-source project where there's a bit of community to bounce ideas off of.
Or just shop around for a new job and try to find a team where people inspire you
 
@ivarni yeah I did open ODesk and apply to some development jobs..nothing back. But I should really keep applying to crack it
yeah last option look for a team or try freelancing again :)
although I've no problem staying here another year and focusing on interesting dev jobs
 
WHY IS IT 10 HOURS LONG
 
11:01 PM
We need more 10 hour long dank meme videos
 
why isn't it eleven
btw, borky died yesterday
this is a tribute
 
is it 10 hours of looping or 10 hours of unique content
 
@BrianJ My point is just that you might not have to move just to find something more interesting to work on, though it might of couse be easier if you're in a location with more tech people. You said you lived in London once and from what I've seen there seems to be a very thriving tech community there with lots of meetups and stuff happening
 
hmm ya Berlin always interested me. Should probably visit first to see it in real life
 
I feel worst for Bill Clinton. He deserves to be First Lady more than anyone.
lol
 
11:05 PM
@BrianJ I can recommend the JSConfEU conferences
 
yeah anyways I'm out to ponder on a few things :)
rant over
oh it's on in May
nice
 
11:27 PM
Well that's wierd, it's usually been in autumn
 
0.o
no more baby
I hope the dude never gets a baby himself
 
they were russian gobbies. all good
 
or dudesse
lol
 
as it was posted to an aquarium reddit I sub, I assume it is also just water for the jokes
 
11:31 PM
reddit can be a dark place
 
depends on the subs
there are so many of them
 
@towc don't worry, I think the whole animal kingdom drinks :D
 
I heard that the aquarium sub is shady af
 
most of the mainstream ones are going to be toxic in the comments
smaller or niche subs are alright
 
the JFK killings were planned in the aquarium reddit, according to sources I can't share
 
11:32 PM
@towc nahh. r/aquariums is alright
no they planned the 9/11 attack, not JFK
 
oh, sorry, always get them mixed up
JFK was in r/puppies
 
I've heard the CIA was behind both so I guess they are easily mixed up
 
JFK was r/abbreviations
 
/r/trump was started in russia
 
fun fact: I had heard about the JFK killings my hole life, but just recently found out he wasn't a dick and people actually loved him
I think I confused him with bush
and I was like "why are people so upset he was killed? They always say he's an asshole"
 
11:35 PM
I don't sub r/the_donald but I do sub r/uncensorednews which is the r/politics version for the right
some stories are interesting
 
oh damn, socket.io is handy
it's like what I've been writing, but already there to be used and in standardized form
#noregrets
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/41774043/… my name brings joy to people lol
 
Is it maintained again?
 
!!afk movie date
 
I still don't know what will have the jQuery effect on me and what won't
 
11:38 PM
@towc some people did
 
@SterlingArcher g+
 
express and socketio are in a gray line, I think
@KendallFrey didn't he carefully avoided a nuclear war and won an argument with the russians?
if not I probably failed a history test
 
I'm pretty sure at least one person disliked him
 
his name was Jeff
fuck Jeff
Jeff is not a real human
Jeff is russian after all
the way you worded it it sounded like you were saying that only some people liked him
which is technically correct, so long as one person dislikes him...
 
@towc That is exactly what I was saying
 
11:41 PM
so most people didn't like him?
 
no most did. but someone didn't
thus... history
 
Didn't Kennedy preside over the whole Bay of Pigs thingy?
 
(in the USA. Again, russians don't count as humans)
 
god you are dense
 
11:41 PM
I am dense
 
a person who was beloved was murdered... therefore someone didn't like him
 
I love you so I'll kill you
 
try it
 
anyway, it wasn't my original point
 
I'll rek you kid
 
11:42 PM
@rlemon I'm forbidding corn and maple syrup for a week >:)
 
you're only hurting yourself
 
...with all that extra maple syrup
 
there is never too much
 
@towc but... cornbread and maple syrup...
 
I don't think I've ever even tried maple syrup
 
11:43 PM
go find some
 
it's almost bloody midnight
 
real maple syrup is a joy to be had
 
I'd drink that shit straight
 
meh, I might do with a vacation to canada after highschool actually
never left the continent
 
Not much, mind you
 
11:44 PM
can we trust exported grade A maple syrup?
 
But it tastes great
 
@KendallFrey Holly prefers jamima
I dunno man
 
@rlemon Tell her she's objectively a moron
 
I dunno
@KendallFrey I did
 
lmao
 
11:45 PM
we have a bottle of real in the fridge for me
 
I always forget... is Holly a fish of yours or your gf?
 
lmfao
 
both
 
I know a few people who'd be aroused by that word
 
she's german.
so I don't really blame her
they don't know what sweets are
 
11:46 PM
how'd you find her?
 
@KendallFrey yes
@towc when I worked retail.
she managed a different store
 
awwwh so romantic
best of luck
don't give vodka to the fish
 
she thought I was gay (not that there is a problem with that). one of my employees was friends with one of hers. my employee thought I was gay, so told her friend. her friend told Holly, and thus she didn't make a move. so I did. her confusion was understood once this was made known to me
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how long has it been?
 
11:50 PM
@towc 18"
 
nice one
 
yeah, that's impressive
 
@towc we've been together?
 
yeah
 
~7 years
(6.5)
 
11:51 PM
!!> ~7
 
@KendallFrey -8
 
cereal guy with eyes out
 
yet another phallic symbol
there is some underlying meaning here
 
well, damn
how come you never bring her around here?
 
she's not a programmer
 
11:53 PM
but neither is @KendallFrey
 
lol
 
(love you babe ;) )
 
well, plans for marriage?
 
one day
 
that's fast
 
woot, no ring yet o.O?
 
@KendallFrey they're usually longer than that?
@FilipDupanović not yet
 
what could you possibly be planning after 7 years :/?
 
11:54 PM
For everyone but the guests, yeah
 
I'm trying to do this the right way
 
@FilipDupanović mozilla logos
 
buy the house first. get stable. then have a family
 
another house?
 
nahh this one is fine.
 
11:55 PM
not like the ring is important or anything, but what if you get hit by a bus O_O?
 
it was the first step
@FilipDupanović then my house is payed for, my brother gets it.
I do have a will.
 
The first step to the first steps ಢ_ಢ I'm such a sap
 
and life insurance
 
you should smelt her a ring like that guy Cody from YT
 
well, you sure seem happy :)
 
11:57 PM
when the day comes
 
can you adopt me?
 
depends on how much manual labour you're willing to do
 
I can feed vodka to the fish, dw
 

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