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4:00 PM
> See that tree, I planted that sumbich :panties drop:
 
though they are more powerful of course
 
user2620028
@yosefrow limiting how as compared to a motorcycle?
 
@VeronicaDeane only way to go
 
What can I say I'm a nerd-jock
 
mobility
 
4:00 PM
I need attention and I'm not afraid to say it :D
 
@HatterisMad Mainly because of cost, also because of regulations
 
basic gets you what you want
 
I don't like having to stick to roads
 
user2620028
@yosefrow yeah dirt bikes are the ultimate mobility :)
 
especially if what you want is basic
or crazy
 
4:00 PM
I would rather rent a car for a track day
 
or basicrazy
 
because I can only open up on a track. why spend the money to own the car
 
user2620028
@VeronicaDeane oh right.... regulations..... forgot about those
 
go-kart racing ftw!
 
I prefer trucks... don't see much point in having a car unless you do a lot of traveling
 
4:01 PM
Can't drive an Ariel Atom here
 
I'll be very happy once we get driverless cars that are government owned and just pick you up
 
user2620028
@rlemon Many reasons why not to rent a car for a track day
 
who needs to own a car really
 
so what's the point of settling for less
 
@rlemon hover car taxis are coming
 
4:01 PM
@VeronicaDeane my uncle used to have 2 of those. Classed as a motorcycle lol
 
@HatterisMad I'm not in it for the sport, I'm having fun going fast.
rented car all day baby
 
@rlemon I have uh...5%.
 
That was the most intense car I've ever driven, closely followed by the Viper
 
user2620028
@rlemon The day this happens i am just attaching huge bumpers to all corners and proceeding as normal
 
there's no car faster than a rental car
 
4:01 PM
lol
 
I can drive most high-performance cars in iRacing
 
@ssube thats logical
@ssube mainly because crashing doesnt matter
 
$30 and you can roll the thing
 
lol
 
user2620028
@rlemon Yes but i like not flipping the car, knowing that the car is going to behave properly in turns, and haivng lots of experience driving the same car so that i can actually become comfortable with it and push it to the edge of what its capable of.
 
4:02 PM
I dropped my car off at the car store today and went to get a loaner
 
My uncle took my brother to his college orientation because my parents werent able to -- and he made my brother drive the entire time in the Viper.
 
user2620028
@ssube That was a Jeremy Clarkson quote :P
 
and got like $60 off cause the girl was hitting on me super hard
 
So all these freshman girls see my brother get out of the car for orientation in a freaking racing tuned Viper
 
@HatterisMad doesnt that just mean you need a car which is well weighted ?
 
4:03 PM
Not fair
 
@HatterisMad not what I'm after.
 
@HatterisMad yep
 
user2620028
@rlemon Then go drag racing, they do fast and no skill required
 
No skill required?
that's a bold statement
 
user2620028
4:04 PM
No skill required for going fast
 
user2620028
not for winning
 
no, this is a bold statement
 
you can go fast in any car with no skill
 
user2620028
winning requires starting line skil
 
you just push the go button
 
4:04 PM
some skill required for not dying
 
user2620028
not around turns you dont lol
 
always push the go button
 
user2620028
never had a go button before :/
 
um, the floor of the car has one
 
user2620028
gas pedal, gotcha
 
4:05 PM
Floor it?
 
I drive cars where the stop button is more important than the go button
 
the stop button just turns gas into waste heat
 
user2620028
i drive cars where they are equally as important
 
To be fair in most cars with a wicked go button, the stop button is equally important
 
never push the stop button
 
4:06 PM
FLOOR IT?!
 
user2620028
entirely grumpy that we are calling pedals as buttons
 
you do have to turn the spinny thing sometimes, but it doesn't seem to correspond to anything
 
so you just stand on the go button and sometimes spin the spinny thing
it's a lot like driving a pirate boat
 
button: a knob on a piece of electrical or electronic equipment that is pressed to operate it.
 
4:07 PM
@HatterisMad sprint cars? I thought that was mostly controlled with the go button
 
a gas pedal, is by definition, a button.
 
only if it's a knob
 
in modern cars at least
 
Noun: knob ‎(plural knobs)
  1. A rounded protuberance, handle, or control switch.
  2. (geography) A prominent rounded hill.
  3. A rounded ornament on the hilt of an edged weapon; a pommel.
  4. A prominent, rounded bump along a mountain ridge.
  5. (plural) (slang) Breasts.
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Verb: knob ‎(third-person singular simple present knobs, present participle knobbing, simple past and past participle knobbed)
  1. (Britain, slang, vulgar, of a man) To have sex with.
 
@VeronicaDeane doesn't have to be a knob. just electrically controlled.
which I'm pretty sure most modern cars are
 
user2620028
4:08 PM
@VeronicaDeane If your car is setup loose you can drive it with no stop button, but you will be a bit slower than other cars
 
@HatterisMad What do you think of youtube.com/watch?v=sBrKxgj4aiM?
 
user2620028
@rlemon i am not aware of a car that i have driven with an electronically controlled pedal
 
I have no experience simracing on any loose surface except rallying
@rlemon The definition says a button is a knob
 
@VeronicaDeane gross, why would you drive on dirt?
 
@HatterisMad the gas pedal isn't connected directly to the valve is it? or is the gas pedal connected to an electronic switch / piston that control gas flow. if the latter, it is a button.
 
4:09 PM
you might get your car dirty D:
 
user2620028
@veronica i really hope they dont focus on half mile tracks
 
@ssube cos you can go sideways!
 
@VeronicaDeane you can do that on roads...
 
user2620028
@rlemon throttle cable
 
@HatterisMad if your car is from <2000
 
user2620028
4:10 PM
modern cars dont have throttle cables?
 
now all our cars are electronical, so when the reds attack, we'll be helpless
 
@HatterisMad Saying you need to use the stop isn't the same as saying it's equally important as the go
 
@HatterisMad I bet they have an electric motor controlling it
 
CSS modules are great, but if we're being honest, it's not actually CSS since it axes cascading of selectors.
 
@HatterisMad not really no
 
4:10 PM
@HatterisMad not attached to the pedal
@rlemon modern cars don't even use carburetors
 
user2620028
@VeronicaDeane If your car isn't set up perfectly then you wont manage to get around the track a single lap without the stop button
 
my 2002 sentra was throttle by wire. it's pretty much a given, now.
 
@HatterisMad Did you even read what I just said?
 
@VeronicaDeane we stopped using carbs around the same time we stopped drinking scotch and boning secretaries
 
no, carbs lasted longer. into the late 80s
 
user2620028
4:12 PM
yes :/ did you read what i said? i feel like im missing something here
 
@SomeGuy ^ This scares me
 
From what you've said about sprint cars before today, it sounds like the throttle is much more important. Would you rather have a loose throttle pedal or a loose brake pedal?
 
:/ connecting bluetooth headphones to debian is a pain... so far...
 
user2620028
loose as in they don't work?
 
connected to the device via bluetoothctl, but the audio manager doesn't seem to recognize the headphones
 
4:14 PM
still work, just harder to control/less consistent
 
linux doesn't do wireless stuff
 
@rlemon the gas pedal is connected to a butterfly valve (either a mechanical cable, or electronically). this is true for carbureted and modern fuel injected cars with a few exceptions.
 
user2620028
if either of them were not functioning properly i would pull off the track before i ended up in the catch fence :/
 
@ssube ubuntu worked fine with these headphones
 
@Luggage I was just being overly anal about the definition of what makes a button a button.
 
user2620028
4:16 PM
@rlemon buttons don't have variability in them. Gas pedals can be partially opened or closed
 
@HatterisMad not true
 
@HatterisMad pressure sensitive buttons
exist all over the place
 
switches don't have variability and many buttons are momentary switches
 
@HatterisMad So even a little lack of braking precision is a problem for sprint cars?
 
^
 
4:16 PM
If a gas pedal is a button, so is a joystick
 
but ofcourse, like I mentioned, I'm being anal about the definition. I don't look at my gas pedal and think button
 
From my limited experience with oval racing, very little braking is done
 
!!s/anal/trolly/
 
@Luggage but ofcourse, like I mentioned, I'm being trolly about the definition. I don't look at my gas pedal and think button (source)
 
user2620028
@VeronicaDeane Yeah and it happens all the time actually, because we commonly drag the brake even down the straight aways because it keeps the car from spinning while driving forward
 
user2620028
4:17 PM
@rlemon Wouldn't those be considered triggers?
 
@HatterisMad oh wow lol
 
triggers can be analog or digital
 
bunch of old men riding the brake down the road
 
user2620028
@veronica when you drag the brake too long they overheat and get spongy and shit starts going south and you slow down or eat a wall
 
are you jsut trying to put more weight on the front tires?
 
user2620028
4:19 PM
@VeronicaDeane Watched the video and i don't think they are going to learn much information from tracks like williams grove. They need to go to the smaller quarter mile and 3/8ths mile high banked tracks to understand the physics of the cars and how they differ from pavement racing.
 
user2620028
@luggage we don't have 4 wheel brakes. so when we hit the brake it actually turns the car.
 
@HatterisMad They're not gonna be just using one track, that's for sure. These guys are srs bsns.
 
er.. oh.
 
user2620028
@VeronicaDeane Yeah i know, it just worries me because the big names in dirt racing only race on the big tracks because its easier and the bigger money engines win more
 
"big names in dirt racing," like Jimbo, Billy Bob, and Leeeroy?
2
 
4:21 PM
I'm sure dirt physics is much more complicated than asphalt physics, but they'll put a lot of effort into it
They're still improving asphalt physics
 
user2620028
@ssube lasoski, kinser, kane, stewart, unser, andretti, saldana, i could list lots of names
 
What's that statement that is like a ternary called? I think it looks like let test = do { if (a) { return a + 1; } } or something
 
@corvid this ain't ruby, you can't just go putting conditionals anywhere you want
 
@ssube Oh I meant the babel plugin... I found it, it's called do expressions
 
you can use an IIFE, too.
 
4:26 PM
@corvid that's such an antipattern
 
You're an antipattern
 
you should take the do expression and make it a method that can be tested individually
 
meh.. I can see it being ok when you want something that's jsut a bit too long to make a pretty ternary expression.
 
@ssube Yep, it is most certainly not the best solution here, but it's a... workable one
 
but, yes.. it can be abused
 
4:28 PM
@Luggage I mean, I avoid ternaries too
logic belongs at the beginning of the line, IMO
 
user2620028
im not the only one who dislikes ternary syntax?
 
I like ternaries better than if/else though
 
There is one other.
 
ternary is fine, nested ternary is the devil
 
^
 
4:29 PM
   const poop =  foo() ? bar() : baz();
 
I wouldn't use it there.
 
better
I assumed a return
 
only simple "this value or that value"
 
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4:30 PM
vote to close that meta question. :)
 
user2620028
who all here rides motorcycles?
 
user2620028
anyone have any experience with a helmet with a comm system?
 
4:45 PM
@RobertHarvey give me $5 and I'll consider doing your job for you
 
Is there a way of starting and stopping the very same process from nodejs or a bat script?
 
or do you mean killing some shell command you kicked off?
 
Just restart your computer
 
install arch
it's great and does all the things
 
4:53 PM
I ride tricycles
Using CB as a com-system
 
user2620028
@towc You finally get an OS to accept your computer and launch?
 
yeah, debian works
 
@towc says the guy that spent how long installing it?
and can't get simple boot from USB to work?
 
1 week
 
@rlemon that's the joke
 
user2620028
4:55 PM
@yosefrow I don't need to communicate about where the next truck stop is that has $2 hookers
 
yea.. I'm listening to you about distro's
 
@rlemon turns out it was a bad iso after all
 
@HatterisMad oh, ok sorry I can't help you out then. Good luck
 
@towc that should have been verified immediately after download
they provide you with the checksum
 
@rlemon no, as in, checksums were fine, but something else was wrong
 
user2620028
4:56 PM
@yosefrow but you actually are able to communicate without too much wind noise interference?
 
tried with a different iso and it worked
 
@towc then it wasn't the iso
 
@towc if the checksum passed, the iso was as they expected it to be
 
well, the structure of the iso. some can be copied in the manner he was trying. some can not.
 
@ssube within the iso, as if the iso wasn't meant to be bootable or something
 
4:56 PM
that is the point of it all
 
@HatterisMad logic says that if you have a wind guard over your mic you'll be fine or if its inside the helmet. To be honest I'm sure tons of ppl have done this before
@HatterisMad also there are very specific frequencies of sound. so depending on the mic it might not even pick up the sound of the engine
 
user2620028
@yosefrow yeah and product quality varies, i have had very poor mic quality with one inside the helmet before
 
user2620028
I know its possible, just like talking to people in here about stuff like this for fun and sometimes you get good info about what to go for or what to avoid
 
user2620028
but not many riders in here i dont think
 
i used to, but never used a com system
 
4:58 PM
i.imgur.com/05Ydmxh.mp4 stupid extensions
 
user2620028
that too
 

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